>updoot to (K)Ubuntu 24.04. >they removed the deb Thunderbird and now force you to use the snap

>updoot to (K)Ubuntu 24.04
>they removed the deb Thunderbird and now force you to use the snap
>native notifications are broken as well as other things
FRICK YOU FRICK YOU FRICK YOU
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/2056481
>just use Debian
Too outdated and takes ages to configure everything to work properly
>just use Debian (testing) (TM)
Last time I tried it it was half broken, upgrading didn't even work due to package conflicts and whatever, plus it also doesn't work very well since it doesn't ironically get tested
>just use Linux Mint
No KDE.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That sucks, is it the same for the flatpak version?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't really like Flatpak, I am paranoid that ((they)) will be able to ship malware through editing the Flatpak packages to point to some other binary not made by Mozilla but some random neet jeet

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am paranoid that rpmfusion will backdoor your system (you literally give them root access by installing MESA and codecs)

        Seems like gentoo might be for you, I would review all the code though 😉

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't want to wait 12 hours for an updoot to libxjeetcode-1.2.0, also energy bills

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, the deb binaries have the problem as Flatpak or Snap.

        why does do you think canonical is not backdooring snaps? the backed is private like fedora why are you not using community distros like arch/debian SID?

        Anon, this is the selling point of Snaps. Centralized backend. You know paid professionals are working on there.
        >AUR
        Literally glowies will backeddoor any package and you will be never noticed.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Use Fedora.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am paranoid that rpmfusion will backdoor your system (you literally give them root access by installing MESA and codecs)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get fricked then, Black person.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why are you seething? You're probably just an election tourist

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why does do you think canonical is not backdooring snaps? the backed is private like fedora why are you not using community distros like arch/debian SID?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I often reinstall and configuring Arch would take foreveeeeer, plus I like .deb packages, everyone supports you, and Ubuntu/Debian repositories are bigger than Arch (I will never use the AUR)
          >why does do you think canonical is not backdooring snaps?
          They might as well backdoor my kernel, nothing I can do about that, but I'd rather not have third party random NEETs backdooring me
          Debian sid sucks from my experience, I've had a lot of breakage when I used it, last time I tried to upgrade to it it was broken with package conflicts and missing packages (perhaps it was a package migration they had, not sure)

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >configuring Arch would take foreveeeeer
            it takes not even 10 minutes using the archinstall script with no reading required, from there you can add your desktop environment and start using your PC without ever dealing with a terminal
            >Ubuntu/Debian repositories are bigger than Arch (I will never use the AUR)
            welcome to linux since you are starting now i will not call you moronic but the thing is it does not matter what format is used as long as you are using UNIX binaries, this would be like refusing to download a .ZIP file because you think .7z is superior
            >I'd rather not have third party random NEETs backdooring me
            thats the point of open source you mongoloid if someone is backdooring you, there is another thousand NEETs reading the commits which creates the hawthorne effect

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it takes not even 10 minutes using the archinstall script with no reading required, from there you can add your desktop environment and start using your PC without ever dealing with a terminal
            I tried archinstall 5 times and the install was broken every single time, I needed an encrypted drive and it broke, the bug hasn't been fixed and it's been open for a long time
            >welcome to linux since you are starting now i will not call you moronic but the thing is it does not matter what format is used as long as you are using UNIX binaries, this would be like refusing to download a .ZIP file because you think .7z is superior
            I've been using Linux since 2012, what I am saying is that not all software is packaged for Arch in the same way that it is packaged for Debian/Ubuntu when you're installing something out of your repository.
            >thats the point of open source you mongoloid if someone is backdooring you, there is another thousand NEETs reading the commits which creates the hawthorne effect
            No one checks the binaries

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I LOVE snaps

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Me too, I use them on non-Ubuntu systems even.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        based
        They're just so easy and comfy to use and with just a few clicks you can grant or revoke access to file system, home folder, opengl, network etc.
        I used to write Dockerfiles for every software I use, but with snaps there's just no need for it anymore, because it does the same but better

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >custom Rust DE instead of gn0me
    >flatpaks instead of snaps
    >nvidia drivers and other firmware preinstalled ootb
    >build-in recovery partition
    >makes ebussy and archniles seethe eternally
    >is literally perfect

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a shame that it isn't out yet.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >custom Rust DE instead of gn0me
      >is literally perfect
      It isn't even out yet, why are Poopgays like this?

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    apt purge snapd
    apt pin snapd -100
    download thunderbird .zip
    install in ~/.local/lib
    create .desktop file
    it updates itself

    If you really want a .deb you can probably find some PPA or use the debian version.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want a Chromium deb without installing it backdoored from some NEET

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        then download one and install it

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Too outdated and takes ages to configure everything to work properly
    ?? Debian had a more up to date KDE than 22.04
    don't fall for the shiny new stuff syndrome anon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not 24.04 which I am using
      Plasma 6 fixed bugs and added features I need

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kubuntu 24.04 uses Plasma 5.27.11 (which is more sensible for an lts distro, plasma 6 is a mess)

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    and thats why you wait for at least a .1

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ubuntu seems too bloated.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pop OS is ubuntu without snap
    you're welcome

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you should go back to windows ASAP!

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your fault for not using Debian (KDE installer, x11 session)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I just told you why I'm not using ti

      Kubuntu 24.04 uses Plasma 5.27.11 (which is more sensible for an lts distro, plasma 6 is a mess)

      Sure, but also with Debian the MESA version is too old for RADV_PERFTEST=gpl which improves performance in vidya

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    um, maybe don't upgrade until all the little things have been sorted out?

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >better
    That is not a problem, just install the better alternative: Betterbird.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >using a dedicated mail client in 2013+11
    >not knowing how to get the deb version of a package

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Too outdated and takes ages to configure everything to work properly
    Install SpiralLinux, it's preconfigured Debian Stable with Btrfs snapshots and Flatpak out of the box. It's avaliable in 8 flavours. I installed the Plasma flavour; after installation, I proceeded to remove the custom Numix theming and reinstalled most of the graphical applications from Flathub. I also installed plasma-workspace-wayland to be able use the Plasma Wayland session.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Snap sucks so hard.
    I've been running the latest mozilla debs since 23.04
    Just add their ppa: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

    And then disable the snap crap with snap disable thunderbird

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who the frick uses a dedicated email client in 2000+24? Just log into Gmail or whatever the frick you use using your web browser, dumbass homie.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i had a t-shirt in my room and I think I spilt gravy and soda on it, the t-shirt was later presented to Mark Shuttleworth founder of Ubuntu and astronaut with net worth of $500mil

    i think there might've also been a stray pube on it

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am not defending their decision, but you can probably find the Thunderbird deb at https://packages.debian.org/ and install it with sudo dpkg -i

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >waaaah mint has no kde waaaah
    shut up

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