>Deletionism
Yet GNOME is so bloated, despite having such a "simple" (dumbed down) user interface. there's so much trash in the lower levels of GNOME which they don't want to cleanup and optimize away.
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>Yet GNOME is so bloated
it's because gnome is written in a high level language there not much optimizing you can do in a high level language.
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It's on all levels. On the lower levels, GNOME invented the fricking registry and is one of the reasons why dbus was considered "necessary".
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What's wrong with dbus?
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Everything. It's moronic by design at the high level, it's moronic by design at the low level, and the main implementation is slow and full of bugs.
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I thought KDE requires dbus as well?
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>requires dbus
Do they?
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Yes. I once tried to use a KDE application on Windows and on Mac (because I thought le portable app), and in both cases the dbus requirement added extra pain. It wasn't even a real requirement. You could comment the dbus check in the source code and it still worked.
The Linux desktop is garbage.
>Lets remove the tray because uh ... it's ugly >What people actually want a tray? Fools >OK lets half assedly implement a tray knockoff >Now don't bother me if you have nothing to say >Next thing you know you want a volume slider in Music >Or worse, you would want to be able to open music files with Music
your philosophy is so good people who leave windows consider macs first, then kde, then xfce then.... after all other options are exhausted they consider you.
Linux: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the GNOME Desktop Enterprise. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new bugs; to remove new features and old paradigms; to boldly go where no woman has gone before!
This. GNOME is very keyboard centric. It filters mouselets.
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GUI was designed with mouse in mind. If you want to be moronic about keyboards and shortcuts go back to 1980 and use VTE terminals exclusively, or your moronic tiling WMs with tmux and alike. But don't touch my desktop you fricking loser.
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maybe GNOME is not for you, and that's ok, there are more simple environments available for you to install. Also this is getting a bit heated, I suggest slowing down
same. I don't understand the hate. It's basically tinker free and does everything I ever wanted from a desktop sans very minor things I can do myself with GJS or tweaking some polkit rules and adding dbus listening services.
You get used to laugh at tinkertroons that hate how GNOME just works. They're still theming and tinkering their KrashDE while they seethe. Meanwhile, GNOME appreciators continue to produce quality work whilst never touching any configuration beyond the volume level.
>GJS
yeah, I'm a web shitter and having GJS is nice, haven't played with yet but I think I will try it.
I also like that it just works out of the box without 10 million settings like in WMs or KDE, I don't need this anymore, the times are over.
it's not great. many of the GJS stuff are just thin veneers over glib's object model and the gtk methods, but you can use it to make basic widgets for your task bar or throwaway gtk apps on the fly.
>tray icons? so you know when steam is open in background? nah thats bloat let hide behind a menu behind a another menu that takes a whole to even find that there is app open in the background >lets also add 50 gnome games
ebussy at its finest
ebussy is just a regular worker if you may. The moron responsible for such atrocious UX is Allan Day who is the main guy in their company. He is not a designer per se since he studied social sciences, so that explains a lot.
>linux "desktop" still hostage to either morons like ebussy or troony troupes
I hate this shit so much
MS Linux when, they should just drop the WSL charade and go balls in deep already, it's only then freetrannies and usecasegays will wake up and understand how it's done
At what cost? It would probably ship with suspicious proprietary blobs. It might favor some shady practices. But yeah, it would likely be polished as well
>At what cost? It would probably ship with suspicious proprietary blobs.
only schizos care about that shit.
most users don't give a frick about that and will just enable the "nonfree" repo so they can enjoy a properly functional GPU and wifi that reaches speeds higher than Wifi 4
>M$ Linux
literally WSL's supervisory distribution is M$'s and it doesn't function correctly. Most distros, even the "official Ubuntu" WSL2 image need constant tweaks and fixes to work. Microshit can't make anything more competent than GNOME and you're just a delusional manbaby b***hmade homosexual.
Go back to Windows.
>What tweaks have you made to the ubuntu image in WSL?
I don't use the Ubuntu image, but the most obvious glaring issues can usually be discovered with NixOS.
one of them is that systemd does not have working --user.
https://github.com/nix-community/NixOS-WSL/issues
peruse if you want. M$ is incompetent shitters. Looks like spyware VSCode plugin stopped working as well based on the pinned issues.
What's the usecase for computers in general?
Or even living?
Oh yeah there isn't one and it just makes the world warmer. That's why we need to kill children and not have them in the first place and just have gay sex until we die.
>What's the usecase of Gnome
Killing linux
fpbp
also this
when gnome and gtk dies linux will finally be free
>when gnome and gtk dies linux will finally be free
No, GTK should be given back to gimp.
Correct.
There is nothing wrong with QT
The average IQfy-moron can't comprehend having a design philosophy lmao
Let's just throw shit at a wall and see what sticks instead
Deletionism isn't a "design philosophy", it's mental illness.
>Deletionism
Yet GNOME is so bloated, despite having such a "simple" (dumbed down) user interface. there's so much trash in the lower levels of GNOME which they don't want to cleanup and optimize away.
>Yet GNOME is so bloated
it's because gnome is written in a high level language there not much optimizing you can do in a high level language.
It's on all levels. On the lower levels, GNOME invented the fricking registry and is one of the reasons why dbus was considered "necessary".
What's wrong with dbus?
Everything. It's moronic by design at the high level, it's moronic by design at the low level, and the main implementation is slow and full of bugs.
I thought KDE requires dbus as well?
>requires dbus
Do they?
Yes. I once tried to use a KDE application on Windows and on Mac (because I thought le portable app), and in both cases the dbus requirement added extra pain. It wasn't even a real requirement. You could comment the dbus check in the source code and it still worked.
The Linux desktop is garbage.
Remember, White alien with orange eyes on this website people unironically use window maker.
>it's mental illness
In some ways it is.
>Lets remove the tray because uh ... it's ugly
>What people actually want a tray? Fools
>OK lets half assedly implement a tray knockoff
>Now don't bother me if you have nothing to say
>Next thing you know you want a volume slider in Music
>Or worse, you would want to be able to open music files with Music
your philosophy is so good people who leave windows consider macs first, then kde, then xfce then.... after all other options are exhausted they consider you.
fpbp
kys gnome troony
Genuinely unclear.
Trojan horse for gayland to ruin and fragment the Linux ecosystem further
Crashing this Plane
GNOME isn't KDE though.
massively underrated
Linux: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the GNOME Desktop Enterprise. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new bugs; to remove new features and old paradigms; to boldly go where no woman has gone before!
gnome3 was a mistake
Be totally free software as opposed to KDE which was based on QT, a then-nonfree library
Sabotaging the Linux desktop.
>what's the usecase of Gnome
A multi-platform "desktop" environment.
>pictured: not gnome
: not gnome
That would require me to look up were they put the mockups.
>multi platform environment
>usable only on desktops pc and laptops
curious
GNOME before HRT therapy had some nice glow
Why did they remove the up arrow form nautilus?
Or why did they remove the button on the left to edit the location, or why did they remove everything?
nowadays nearly everything is delegated to shortcuts. Up is Alt+ up arrow
This. GNOME is very keyboard centric. It filters mouselets.
GUI was designed with mouse in mind. If you want to be moronic about keyboards and shortcuts go back to 1980 and use VTE terminals exclusively, or your moronic tiling WMs with tmux and alike. But don't touch my desktop you fricking loser.
maybe GNOME is not for you, and that's ok, there are more simple environments available for you to install. Also this is getting a bit heated, I suggest slowing down
Is it at least in a menu, or entirely undiscoverable?
Maybe merged 1 year ago
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/-/merge_requests/1117
>All this bureaucracy to add a menu entry that absolutely had to be there from day 1
>bloat
Literally looks like someone vomited on the screen. You are deranged.
you have shit taste
it looks clean and nice
The fact that there was never a good file manager on Linux was what made me get used to bash as my primary file manager.
what about the tui ones like ranger?
Frick that looks decent!
Ah well, at least KDE remains usable today.
>HRT therapy
>Hormone Replacement Therapy therapy
>Therapy therapy
You need to spend some time in therapy therapy.
good morning sars!!
red hat support contracts
buy ebussycoin
Excluding the ones that don't know any better, do people really use gnome willingly?
Yes
>Why?
Don't ask me, I have no idea why one would do it to themselves.
I use GNOME btw
same. I don't understand the hate. It's basically tinker free and does everything I ever wanted from a desktop sans very minor things I can do myself with GJS or tweaking some polkit rules and adding dbus listening services.
You get used to laugh at tinkertroons that hate how GNOME just works. They're still theming and tinkering their KrashDE while they seethe. Meanwhile, GNOME appreciators continue to produce quality work whilst never touching any configuration beyond the volume level.
Meanwhile gnoemgays need a thousand extensions to get basic functions back
like what?
I only have a few custom things for my uses and gTile.
Minimize and maximize buttons
you dont need a button on screen moron. get filtered homosexual
Go frick your ebussy. Just wait till your shit DE get filtered.
what?
they're literally there and that's a GNOME (Gnome Terminal) App.
what?
I have 0 extensions since GNOME 40 release, it has gotten better for me
you're drinking piss
>GJS
yeah, I'm a web shitter and having GJS is nice, haven't played with yet but I think I will try it.
I also like that it just works out of the box without 10 million settings like in WMs or KDE, I don't need this anymore, the times are over.
it's not great. many of the GJS stuff are just thin veneers over glib's object model and the gtk methods, but you can use it to make basic widgets for your task bar or throwaway gtk apps on the fly.
You need to install third-party extensions to get basic features present in every other desktop, it's the single biggest tinker distro there is.
Trolling the user with bad design
What's the usecase of life, tho?
no way
If you want a DE that works with WINE applications.
>tray icons? so you know when steam is open in background? nah thats bloat let hide behind a menu behind a another menu that takes a whole to even find that there is app open in the background
>lets also add 50 gnome games
ebussy at its finest
ebussy is just a regular worker if you may. The moron responsible for such atrocious UX is Allan Day who is the main guy in their company. He is not a designer per se since he studied social sciences, so that explains a lot.
desktop environment for people who are still getting used to linux
name a single desktop environment with better touchpad gestures than gnome.
i’ll wait.
MacOS
KDE caught up already. GNOME is useless.
Hyprland
>linux "desktop" still hostage to either morons like ebussy or troony troupes
I hate this shit so much
MS Linux when, they should just drop the WSL charade and go balls in deep already, it's only then freetrannies and usecasegays will wake up and understand how it's done
At what cost? It would probably ship with suspicious proprietary blobs. It might favor some shady practices. But yeah, it would likely be polished as well
>At what cost? It would probably ship with suspicious proprietary blobs.
only schizos care about that shit.
most users don't give a frick about that and will just enable the "nonfree" repo so they can enjoy a properly functional GPU and wifi that reaches speeds higher than Wifi 4
>tinkertroons hurt themselves in their confusion and become a globocorpo fifth column
many such cases!
>M$ Linux
literally WSL's supervisory distribution is M$'s and it doesn't function correctly. Most distros, even the "official Ubuntu" WSL2 image need constant tweaks and fixes to work. Microshit can't make anything more competent than GNOME and you're just a delusional manbaby b***hmade homosexual.
Go back to Windows.
None of this is true
What tweaks have you made to the ubuntu image in WSL?
For me it just werks, I use it every day.
>What tweaks have you made to the ubuntu image in WSL?
I don't use the Ubuntu image, but the most obvious glaring issues can usually be discovered with NixOS.
one of them is that systemd does not have working --user.
https://github.com/nix-community/NixOS-WSL/issues
peruse if you want. M$ is incompetent shitters. Looks like spyware VSCode plugin stopped working as well based on the pinned issues.
What's the usecase for computers in general?
Or even living?
Oh yeah there isn't one and it just makes the world warmer. That's why we need to kill children and not have them in the first place and just have gay sex until we die.
Innovation without the user base
Cinnamon will always be a gem
being an eunuch