Want to become a software engineer, learning the basic aka coding, whats the best place to learn coding online so far been recommended code academy and the odin project anyone here had an experience with them?
Also do i need to go to university and study CS ? Or can work with as a software engineer without one?
Thanks
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So you want to be a code monkey or you wanna actually understand what you're doing?
I want to actually understand , out of 10 whats the difficulty? On different degree courses i look at their always a compulsory module for the mathematics part of computing is it hard? Im average on maths got a grade B for Maths and having been work as an accountant before this ,only thing im worried about
CS Math is absolutely pathetic. I wouldn’t even call it Math.
This. Most CS courses up your linear algebra and calculus from high school somewhat. Add some numerical analysis, some probablity and statistics, maybe discrete math and that's about it. Doing things like formally proving greedy algorithms can be a bit tricky but that's phased out in most places since when you're a codemonkey, your boss doesn't care and you'll probably just steal that shit from someone else.
You will do fine. Just pick up a discrete math book and read it. I recommend the MIT one wrote by ~~*Lehman*~~
Those are how I got my start.
>T. Senior developer without a degree
Which one is better code academy or odin project?
First code cademy to get the basics. Then Odin project cuts the umbilical and sets you off on your own a bit.
Codecademy is great ...... if you pay for it. And its pretty expensive too. Better that you just cut straight to the odin project, but if u got money, codecademy full stack javascript dev course will get u very far. good luck bro.
At least when I went through it codecademy was free
it used to be free awhile ago, now only the intro courses are free as they've paywalled most of their content, and they arent any better than what you can find on youtube
Frick me. Capitalism rots everything
Yeah, how dare people expect to be paid in exchange for their labor. They should be enslaved and forced to work for free.
as said before they paywalled it but it's nothing new or improved from the free version or compared to other free courses
israelites like you instantly seething when someone calls out on capitalist bullshit is funny
It's israeli to be an adult now? Cute. Again, their circumstances probably changed forcing them to change their monetization model - or they simply weren't profitable enough as it was. Happens all the time. If it it was free you wouldn't want ads and you wouldn't want your data collected and sold either, which means you literally just expect it for completely for free. You're like a petulant fricking child.
Thanks for the information Anon, yh its £15 per month for the pro membership on code academy ill probably buy it start with coding then move on to Full Java stack then the odin project
Will decide whether to go uni for CS or not in the meantime
Study anything but CS, Any engineering degree will do. You will hate yourself every single day for being a developer.
I'm a developer and I don't hate myself. I am autistic though
>get EE degree
>get job where official title is Electrical Engineer
>do nothing but dev work
cant escape it anon.
>Master’s degree in Civil Engineering
>End up in IT
>Not autistic enough to become a dev, just order them around
I didn’t ask for this, but the pay check was way too good to say no.
frick off we're full
No can do bro , i was working as an accountant but with the development of AI i think jobs like that will be done by AI once they get it sophisticated enough , anyways SE is in high demand and is expected to grow
by the time that happens there will have been a revolution. i dont know why people are so scared of their job gettting automated in 30+ years time
Because joos
im an accountant as well
i've been learning C from youtube tutorials and i got into 42 (free coding school) that ill be starting in 2 months
i never took any courses to learn how to code,
I just had projects I wanted to do I learned what i needed as I went along,
im not sure if this was a good idea or not
on one hand it never felt tedious on the other hands I ended up with giant gaps in knowledge.
I want to become better at coding but I just don’t know which long term projects I can develop on my own that will keep me engaged and motivated.
Is your goal to become employed?
No, i just want to move away from my video game addiction. Unironically.
Meditation will change your life
No sure if you’re meming, nor am I religious. But god bless you if you’re being genuine.
I am not religious either, meditation isn't an inherently religious practice. But it is a habit that has completely changed my life, helped me overcome my porn addiction, made me more empathetic, and strengthened my ability focus/concentrate and willpower to get things done. Just start with 5 minutes a day and use the Medito app (its actually 100% free not like ~~*headspace*~~ which paywalls everything)
Really good video too. Work hard anon, you are capable of accomplishing and creating the life you've always wanted, as long as you stay consistent.
Thank you.
I never knew that IQfy could be this based.
now kiss
Then just find something that holds your attention. Build a videogame, get into modding, build a stock/crypto Algo and try to turn a profit, etc etc. There's no magic bullet here it just takes building the habit
I did some bots for some games. That was fun, i guess.
Kek don't sound so impassioned
It wasn’t that interesting in the long run, I guess, I played a little bit with open CV and made some object/color detection shit on Python to do some random shit on runescape. I never got banned, that shit was lit. I even found an algorithm to create human mouse like movement with some old ass curve method used to draw the curves you see in cars, imagine that.
>i just want to move away from my video game addiction
Try gamedev
I thought about this. Can I, a one man army, truly take on this daunting task?
Please note that I have no delusions of publishing anything.
Don’t.
Don't do it Pajeet. I'm sick of fixing your code.
the industry is full, try becoming a plumber instead
True the market might be saturated with just normal coders/programmers, but i would specialise in a certain area
that would be extremely expensive, difficult due to all the math, and boring. maybe you'd be good in the HVAC world?
HVAC is dying. I know this from observing it first hand, you aren’t going to be making a living doing it very soon
Does anyone even develop software anymore? You probably want to become a webdev
>do i need to go to university
dude, you're totally fricked and you don't even know it or know why
I'm going to finish my degree in about a year and I don't know what the frick I'm doing or how I'm going to get a job
I've worked as an EE for 8 years, finally making 6 figures and absolutely hate my fricking job/career the entire time. Strongly considering quitting and doing a bootcamp. I've been running through The Odin Project for a few months, working on the Javascript path now. But wondering if a bootcamp would get me to my goal (a first software dev job) much quicker.
Is this fricking moronic? I have bare minimum a year of savings to live off of.
what exactly are you doing as a EE?
I work in the railroad industry. It sucks and I'm tired of hearing about everyone else getting paid way more and getting to work from home. I also worked from 2pm to 11pm for 6 years until I quit, now I have a new job (also railroad related) that also sucks for different reasons.
I remember in college I enjoyed assembly, VHDL and C/C++ coding, and I honestly at this point can't see myself putting in the effort to get good at anything else besides programming. I feel like EE is a total dead end for me. I want to climb up in income but I can't apply myself to my current job and get good at it because all I can think about is how I'd rather be learning programming.
then frickin a, just learn programming. to answer your previous question, yes I'm sure a bootcamp would help you get a software dev job much quicker. you've already got an incredibly good technical 4-year degree. those bootcamps are gonna see that and foam at the mouth - they know you've already got money, they know you'll be at least a half-way decent student, and they know they'll be able to fit you into a job which in turn increase their "numbers". just go for it. I'm a EE with same years of experience as you making 110k doing industrial automation at factories and I've loved it ever since I started right out of college. I'd off myself if I had to sit at home in front of a computer all day maintain old banking software or writing website or writing mobile apps. but hey, in the end (You) will make more money than me and probably work less, so to each their own. good luck out there just apply yourself and you'll be good to go. pic related because I just turned 30
I think where I fricked up (besides doing EE in general) is that I went into such an extremely niche field as the railroad industry where we work with positively ancient shit with relay logic. My skills have completely atrophied over 8 years due to how very specific what I do is, and it makes it hard to think about moving even to other EE jobs.
I'm pretty much all in on career switching, but I'm still hemming and hawing over the prospect of just quitting and doing a bootcamp or continuing to try to learn after work and at least not risk everything by not having a job
I did my 2 year grad scheme + another year in rail before ditching for something that isn't shit pay, shit conditions, and no progress plan. Just jump to another sector already
Just be curious. Courses are fine but otherwise pointless if you aren't interested or curious in what they are teaching you.
Pick an entrypoint, what looks like something you want to do? Web development? Start with html, css, javascript, look at how HTTP works, fiddle with a few web APIs, maybe do a real project or 2. Roadmap.sh is a decent site for mapping out progression.