was he a legitimate poet?

was he a legitimate poet?

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this what IQfy has been reduced to? Board tourists baiting newbies? Grim

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      now you listen here pork & bean eater, its a serious question, he undoubtedly considered himself primarily a poet rather than a rock star, i'm interested to hear other's opinions on his credibility as such

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I read some of his lyrics I thought they were pretty good, so, sure

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >break on through to the other side
      Wow, soo profound

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        How do you know that's what I read? I don't even know myself.

        I also read John dylan's lyrics and don't think they're good, or Morrissey the other one that gets spammed here for no good reason.

        I like the lyrics of the band Acid Bath even tho they are frequently very juvenile - like pretty much ALL music. But I used to just read those lyrics for enjoyment (albeit remembering the music at the same time)

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Morrissey
          Fricking die.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Call a suicide hotline, moron. I can't help you.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >John dylan
          Do you mean Bob Dylan?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >break on through to the other side
      Wow, soo profound

      this is about his poetry rather than his song lyrics

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    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they were pretty good,
      They do not need to be good for him to qualify. He can be a bad poet with bad poems as well. Give Michael C. Ford's ''Polluting the Poetry Pool'' a spin.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        i guess that's true, one doesn't need to be a good poet to be valid, a legitimately bad poet is still a poet

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    No he's an illigitimate poet

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    His spoken world album is hippie homosexualry, he's a poet but a shitty annoying one. Great music tho.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hippie homosexualry
      interesting perspective, thank you for your input

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are better songwriters, but yes, I think his lyrics can be considered poetry. Neil Peart takes the cake though, at least for me. Dylan sucks.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Big Country are very underrated songwriters and they are straight-up poets on their second record about the decline of Britain
      >The day they had a party
      >Right out in the street
      >Flags and flowers and singing
      >For the homecome hero's treat

      >I sat in the kitchen
      >Without a fire on the range
      >I knew this house had lost the cause
      >To ever make me warm again
      Come Back to Me, a song about a women widowed by war

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Give "Another Man's Cause" by The Levellers a spin.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's a classic for sure. Idk why but that Big Country songs just destroys me every time

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >*shitty CIA-funded circus music starts playing*
    >I EAT MORE CHICKEN THAN ANY MAN EVER SEEN
    >*shitty guitar solo*
    >SHE GET HIIIIGH
    >SHE GET HIIIIIIIIIIGH
    >SHE GET HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH
    >*shitty ten minute keyboard solo*
    >FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK FRICK
    >*song ends*
    wow, truly the GOAT band. Thank you Jim Morrison for your truly groundbreaking """music"""

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Truly a classic.

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does the chicken lyric trigger 4chinners so hard?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      it triggers the pork & bean eaters

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes, a legitimate hick poet. salt of the earth.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      hardly a hick, very well read, academically gifted and an exceptionally high iq

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who wore it better?

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    And the men who hold high places
    Must be the ones who start
    To mold a new reality
    Closer to the heart

    The blacksmith and the artist
    Reflect it in their art
    They forge their creativity
    Closer to the heart

    Philosophers and ploughmen
    Each must know his part
    To sow a new mentality
    Closer to the heart

    You can be the captain
    And I will draw the chart
    Sailing into destiny
    Closer to the heart

    - Neil Peart

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I feel the way the wind blows
      It tells me where you've been through
      I watch the way the sun sets
      Until the night's inside you
      Some days I just don't worry
      I let it pour through me
      Some days I need to bury
      The very depths of me
      So I wait out here to the east of Eden
      I let salvation be
      I was waiting, I was watching
      Would it ever be there for me?
      When I felt that hope and a lucky card
      Were all I had to walk with me... had to walk with me
      I watch the way the crow flies
      And though it seems so easy
      But if I see it in a grey sky
      Can I be sure about the way it leaves me
      Some days I just don't worry
      I let it pour through me
      Some days I call upon
      The very depths of me
      So I wait out here to the east of Eden
      I watch your soul run free
      I was waiting, I was watching
      Would it ever be there for me?
      When I felt that hope and a lucky card
      Were all I had to walk with me
      I was waiting, I was watching
      Would it ever be there for me?
      When I felt that hope and a lucky card
      Were all I had to walk with me
      Some days will stay a thousand years
      Some pass like the flash of spark
      Who knows where all our days go?
      Out here we lie together
      Outside the thunder gathers
      Why care about the weather
      It always ends in dark
      I looked west in search of freedom
      And I saw slavery
      I looked east in search of answers
      And I saw misery
      Some days I just don't worry
      I let it pour through me
      Some days I walk into
      The very depths of me
      So I wait out here to the east of Eden
      I let my conscience be
      I was waiting, I was watching
      Would it ever be there for me?
      When I felt that hope and a lucky card
      Were all I had to walk with me

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is no "legitimate poet". There are people who enjoy his work and people who dont

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only non meme answer is that if he was getting paid to write poetry he was legit.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >getting paid
      that would in fact make him technically a professional poet, good point

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even if you're focusing just on hippie beatnik woo, he'd still be well behind Ginsberg, Corso, Synder, Kerouac and so on. And most of Morrison's good lines are stolen anyway
    Some bangers on their first two albums minds

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      theres a killer on the road

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a back door man
    The men don't know
    But the little girls understand

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      that isn't his poetry, that's the lyrics to a blues song the doors coverd

  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would never call him bad, but compared to a lot of the lyricists and poets of his time he was just alright. He's got a couple of decent poems, but overall it was just kind of meh and 2edgy4me at times with his references to Nietzsche and mythologies. Good lyricist for teenagers to get a taste of "smart" poetry and lyrics, but if you still consider him amazing when you're an adult then you took a wrong turn.

    Here's a poem he wrote that I really liked when I was 15:

    When the still sea conspires an armor
    And her sullen and aborted
    Currents breed tiny monsters
    True sailing is dead
    Awkward instant
    And the first animal is jettisoned
    Legs furiously pumping
    Their stiff green gallop
    And heads bob up
    Poise
    Delicate
    Pause
    Consent
    In mute nostril agony
    Carefully refined
    And sealed over

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Good lyricist for teenagers to get a taste of "smart" poetry and lyrics, but if you still consider him amazing when you're an adult then you took a wrong turn.

  16. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me it's Townes Van Zandt and Jason Molina

  17. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    His poetry isn't half bad. Better than the lyrics.

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    There′s a killer on the road
    His brain is squirming like a toad

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was a CIA agent.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Came here to say this. His father was captain I believe of the boat “sunk“ during the staged Gulf of Tonkin incident.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but he was estranged from his father, its not like he hung out with his dad and they plotted glowie shit together

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      You know they’re called officers, right? — not “agents. You’re thinking of the FBI. Do you actually know anything about the spooks that live in your head, or do you simply parrot, like a good little moron, what you “read” on /misc/?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also he talked about doing a magic blood ritual when he went to Hollywood.

  20. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    THE KILLER AWOKE BEFORE DAWN

  21. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    > legitimate
    What do you mean? I dont think his poems are illegal to read.

  22. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Laurel Canyon Glowie. CIA written lyrics.

  23. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    i dont know him

  24. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was probably the only real legitimate 'rock star', but I don't really know if he's IQfy or not. Definitely the most interesting guy from that era, pretty much everyone around him was terrified of him at his peak. I remember seeing some backstage video where he was sitting on this bench with a girl and she actually looked in fear of her life just being around him. Cool to see how he mellowed out later tho

  25. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >whiskey bar:
    >show me the way to the next little girl, oh don't ask why, oh don't ask why
    >land ho:
    >if I get my hands on a number five, gonna skin that little girl alive
    so THAT's why he didn't want us to ask...

  26. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    For seven years I dwelt
    In the loose palace of exile,
    Playing strange games
    With the girls of the island.
    Now I have come again
    To the land of the fair, & the strong, & the wise.
    Brothers and sisters of the pale forest
    Children of Night
    Who among you will run with the hunt?
    Now Night arrives with her purple legion.
    Retire now to your tents & to your dreams.
    Tomorrow we enter the town of my birth.
    I want to be ready.

  27. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    He actually published poetry which is more than 99% of the board has accomplished

  28. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that he had a tested IQ of 149 and was smarter than every person on this board

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      He actually published poetry which is more than 99% of the board has accomplished

      There are tribes in Papua New Guinea, as yet untouched by civilization, who live deep in the jungle in crude hut villages; in those villages are inbred idiots, who, while they may be pitied and scorned by the rest of their primitive tribe, are nevertheless more accomplished and smarter than 99% of this board

  29. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only lyicists who come remotely close to literary are Leonard Cohen (a solid writer in his own right prior to getting into music, much better than the other israelite Robert Zimmerman who didn't deserve the Nobel), and Mark E. Smith, who, in his prime, was considered to be a rambling drunken cult poet hero and often compared to Rimbaud. Honorable mentions go to Tom Verlaine and Richard Hell, both extremely well read and well spoken punk rockers.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even Cohen doesn't really work written down without the melody to carry the stresses.
      Country music works best on the page, because they tend to use ballad meter, Robert Burns style, eg Give My Love To Rose, or I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry

  30. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Was he the GOAT:
    Coleratura singers bringing weeds and social clingers
    Hangers-on and fancy flingers
    To the dress ball
    Mushrooms and bowling pins
    Stove pipe hats and other things I can't recall
    From Juvenile hall
    We're so unlucky and stuff
    Woodrow Wilson never had it so tough
    Dairy Queen and Vaseline and Maybelline
    Paul Bunyan and James Dean

    Allegory agencies of pre-Raphaelite paganry
    And Shenandoah tapestries
    Compared with good mahogany
    Collapsing the undying postcard romance
    With feline perspicacity
    By the university
    That night I held a paucity
    Which you deemed common courtesy
    I wasn't what you thought I'd be
    I shouldn't have invited you to dance

  31. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you're female, the answer to every question involving Jim Morrison is "yes".

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