Wayland should be considered an incompatible alternative to Xorg and not its successor.

Wayland should be considered an incompatible alternative to Xorg and not its successor.
And there's nothing impeding a rewrite of Xorg in a modern way, Xenocara is the best example of this.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    works on my machine, funny how the loudest group of people b***hing about this are spergs on IQfy who freak out about even having a GUI lol

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, i like GUI, i use GNOME and i like it, but it breaks 99.99999% of the programs by simply LOCKING THE WHOLE PROGRAM WHEN THE WINDOW IS NOT VISIBLE.

      You want to do this? Fine, let it be this way, but this makes completely incompatible and all programs should be rewritten accordingly to fit its needs, which won't be and no one will fricking care about this anymore.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Wayland should be considered an incompatible alternative to Xorg and not its successor.
        Why not both
        >And there's nothing impeding a rewrite of Xorg in a modern way,
        The fact that Wayland already exists

        I've never experienced that. That sounds like the Wayland implementation rather than Wayland itself.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Why not both
          Because of this:

          No, i like GUI, i use GNOME and i like it, but it breaks 99.99999% of the programs by simply LOCKING THE WHOLE PROGRAM WHEN THE WINDOW IS NOT VISIBLE.

          You want to do this? Fine, let it be this way, but this makes completely incompatible and all programs should be rewritten accordingly to fit its needs, which won't be and no one will fricking care about this anymore.

          .
          >The fact that Wayland already exists
          Wayland is not compatible with Xorg.
          >That sounds like the Wayland implementation rather than Wayland itself.
          This happens with dwl and Hyprland too. This happens on NVIDIA, though.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm on Hyprland too, but neither of my Linux machines use Nvidia GPUs, so maybe that's it

            Look at the fricking intro vid: https://swaywm.org/

            Literally a troony weaboo that just NEEDS to share his cartoons like a child. Why in god's frick would I take this seriously? Im sticking with i3.

            Imagine being this triggered by the things someone else enjoys on their own PC

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Can you compile the code and execute that:

            It is literally:
            #include <stdio.h>
            #include <GLFW/glfw3.h>

            static int ticks = 0;

            int
            main()
            {
            if(!glfwInit())
            return -1;

            glfwDefaultWindowHints();
            GLFWwindow *window = glfwCreateWindow(800, 600, "ticks", NULL, NULL);
            glfwMakeContextCurrent(window);

            glfwShowWindow(window);
            while(!glfwWindowShouldClose(window)) {
            printf("Ticks: %dn", ticks++);

            glfwSwapBuffers(window);
            glfwPollEvents();
            }

            glfwDestroyWindow(window);
            glfwTerminate();
            }

            You only need glfw here.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can also test this in another way: run mpv from any youtube livestream, let it run for a while minimized, open it again and see if there's any fast advancement of the frames or if the audio becomes unsynchronized.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >mpv
            broken half-assed troonyware

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm on Hyprland too
            >Imagine being this triggered by the things someone else enjoys on their own PC

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Reported to my local BLM chapter for transphobia and right wing terrorism.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ywnbaw

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Post test program

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It is literally:
          #include <stdio.h>
          #include <GLFW/glfw3.h>

          static int ticks = 0;

          int
          main()
          {
          if(!glfwInit())
          return -1;

          glfwDefaultWindowHints();
          GLFWwindow *window = glfwCreateWindow(800, 600, "ticks", NULL, NULL);
          glfwMakeContextCurrent(window);

          glfwShowWindow(window);
          while(!glfwWindowShouldClose(window)) {
          printf("Ticks: %dn", ticks++);

          glfwSwapBuffers(window);
          glfwPollEvents();
          }

          glfwDestroyWindow(window);
          glfwTerminate();
          }

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            lol. thats a glfw thing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            this happens with sdl too

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            actually you're right. i membered incorrectly. my b

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >but this makes completely incompatible and all programs should be rewritten accordingly to fit its needs, which won't be and no one will fricking care about this anymore
        If those programs aren't rewritten accordingly, run them in Xwayland

        It is literally:
        #include <stdio.h>
        #include <GLFW/glfw3.h>

        static int ticks = 0;

        int
        main()
        {
        if(!glfwInit())
        return -1;

        glfwDefaultWindowHints();
        GLFWwindow *window = glfwCreateWindow(800, 600, "ticks", NULL, NULL);
        glfwMakeContextCurrent(window);

        glfwShowWindow(window);
        while(!glfwWindowShouldClose(window)) {
        printf("Ticks: %dn", ticks++);

        glfwSwapBuffers(window);
        glfwPollEvents();
        }

        glfwDestroyWindow(window);
        glfwTerminate();
        }

        To run that in Xwayland set environment variable XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >JUST RUN THE COMPATIBILITY LAYER BRO. RUN X ON TOP OF WAYLAND BRO.

          Frick off, filthy transsexual wienerroach.
          X.org works good without Wayland. Wayland needs literally X.org running on top of it for such trivial and basic shit. It's a bad joke.
          And no, "muh high definition multiple monitor setup" is not valid point. You can have all your damn monitors but if shit's not working, it's not working. Besides, you probably are too poor for it anyway because you spend all you money on hormone therapy and boobjob.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          To rewrite accordingly = window working in another separate thread.
          This is moronic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Just use GNOME on X.org. Despite Wayland being the default, GNOME works better on X.org, funnily enough.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      there's a weird coincidence, though: the loudest group of people shilling it are also spergs on IQfy

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If i3 doesnt work on wayland then I dont want wayland.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just use Sway?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        is it compatible with all my patches?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Look at the fricking intro vid: https://swaywm.org/

        Literally a troony weaboo that just NEEDS to share his cartoons like a child. Why in god's frick would I take this seriously? Im sticking with i3.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          he played 3 seconds of an anime intro. relax anon

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          holy based angel beats switching to swaywm right now

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i will never ever, not in a thousand million years, ever use software that drew was involved in

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          nice mental illness

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was a doubter, but after using Wayland with KDE I'm on board. It's just so fricking smooth, the Linux desktop finally feels as good as or better than Windows. They just need to fix the Nvidia issues and it's the new standard of FOSS display servers. That's not a lofty accomplishment, but still.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    works on my machine

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > there's nothing impeding a rewrite of Xorg in a modern way
    Xorg's problem isn't it's implementation, its it's design. Xorg is fundamentally obsolete, and no troony doing a rewrite in Rust will fix it.
    Stop being a luddite and update to Wayland already. All the problems that Wayland has today are fixable, but they'll be fixed faster once Xorg is fully buried and devs have less of an excuse to be lazy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Xorg's problem isn't it's implementation, its it's design.

      Black person homosexual, stop posting.
      You say that X.org's issue is design when Wayland is fricking tripping over it's own feet because of it's moronic design. Every fricking week you can read reports about something in Wayland being broken, unimplemented or literally ignored by braindead devs. You make no fricking sense but I guess that's something that should be expected from Wayland homosexuals.
      X.org will be alive and will be mogging Wayland by doing nothing just because people like you exist.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks for clarifying that you're a nocoder
        > broken, unimplemented, ignored by braindead devs
        Those are implementation issues, not design issues.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Despite what your moronic CS professors told you, implementation and execution are the things that actually matter. Ideas are cheap.

          As long as existing Wayland implementations are shit, Wayland will stay shit.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >rewrite of Xorg in a modern way
    And Xorg was a rewrite of Xfree86 lol

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My gripe with Wayland is the (lack of) documentation since I don't use desktop environments or login greeters so I always get a bunch of fricking errors about seats, libs and XDG environments.

    Also I have no idea of xdg-desktop-portal-gtk is any good or if it requires plasma to be installed or not, I've only ever used xdg-desktop-portal-wlr but recently I read that it's unstable or something.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Discovered one more moronic thing about wayland.
    If a window never commits a buffer to be displayed, the window never shows up. So, if a program crashes before the program renders anything, you can't kill it or even know if it exists if it isn't using much resources, lol.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://github.com/glfw/glfw/issues/1398

      Wayland is not a replacement for X11.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Wayland should be considered an incompatible alternative to Xorg and not its successor.
    Wrong. Wayland is not even an "alternative" since it fails at basic use cases that X manages just fine.

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