"We are not, as some would have us believe, doomed to an inevitable decline. We have the right to dream heroic dreams."
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"We are not, as some would have us believe, doomed to an inevitable decline. We have the right to dream heroic dreams."
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Best the Amerisharts can hope for is a peaceful transfer of power and end up on good terms with whatever future nation surpasses them (like the UK after WWII).
I hate to muttmit it, but the Amerisharts cracked a winning formula and are here to stay.
>are here to stay
That's not what people mean when they say "decline". The US has an entire continent to themselves and two sea walls protecting them on each side. They will never be conquered, but to think they can stay on top forever is moronic.
Relative decline is certain and has already happened. Absolute decline doesn't have to happen, but is happening. For example, NASA has only11 spacesuits, all of 1970s vintage, which were only supposed to be used for 15 years. NASA has spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to design new suits, with nothing to show for it.
https://oig.nasa.gov/docs/IG-17-018.pdf
There isn't the motivation to design new suits and we really don't have the same caliber of engineers we had in 1965.
>There isn't the motivation to design new suits
NASA is spending tens of billions of dollars on spacecraft and associated systems to return astronauts to the Moon. Gateway and any ISS successor stations also require EVA capability.
>did not pay attention to the second part of the post
The engineers they have today are diversity hires and low wage poos on H1B1 visas, they don't look like the Apollo Mission Control room. Why would you be surprised nothing gets done?
Ah, so it was just a /misc/ screed. Nothing of value was lost in ignoring it.
GAO and OIG generally point the finger at the management of these.
>they don't look like the Apollo Mission Control room
Neither does the campus of MIT today.
Regardless, you'd still be wrong.
https://www.nasa.gov/offices/odeo/workforce-data
>GAO and OIG generally point the finger at the management of these.
Do you have more specific information on this? I am very very very very interested in this topic
From what I've read it seems like the actual answer is a radical decline in state administrative capacity beginning in the 70s and 80s. Everything the United States does costs more and gets worse results because we reshaped our government around spending less on public services and public administration. We spend money doing things through private entities and contractors instead. And American government is unfortunately very bad at dealing with private entities and getting good results at a low cost, partly because the aforementioned lack of administrative capacity makes government liable to be taken advantage of by private actors, and partly because corruption is now endemic throughout the American political system. So we pay far more, get worse results, and a ton of money gets channeled into private hands.
I find it extremely hard to believe that the capacity of the American engineering sector *as a whole* is worse than it was in 1965. It's the administrative and political side. And we don't have the political will to fix those problems, or really, the cultural and political vision to understand them in the first place.
I don't necessarily agree with all of that however it may be understood that Americans of the 50s-60s had a more collectivist mentality than they do today due to an entire generation being shaped by war. Big national projects were something that came to people naturally while now they do not. The idea of beating the Soviet Union was also a powerful psychological motivator that doesn't exist today. Americans in 2021 don't have the notion that if we can't design a spacesuit, the commies will win.
Gigabased
Isn't that a sign of decline?
Nah, our launch systems today are way better than anything we had in the 60s or 70s. The Falcon 9 alone blows out the rest of the planet, and anything we've ever used before that.
Space is literally the one area where the US is actually widening its advantage over the rest of the planet.
>these homies don't know that Bush and Obama privatized the space industry in the 2000s and SpaceX is the new NASA
And all we have to show for it is Musk sending a car to become junk stuck in low-Earth orbit and Bezos ducking around in zero gravity for a few hours.
Wow.
lmao moron
Where are the results?
Only Reddit is impressed by fancy parlor tricks like launching a car into low-Earth orbit and having a bald frick playing around in zero gravity.
How come NASA could send men to the moon in 1969 but these millionaires with much more advanced tech haven’t launched a moon mission yet?
The public isn’t impressed with this, no matter how fancy you make the technical side of things sound.
Why is this even a question? Modern science and technology is just rich guys' ego tripping projects. It's not like it was in the 50s.
>Where are the results?
Well, we've launched over 1600 communication satellites since 2019, and gotten the cost of a launch down from two billion dollars to 40 million dollars.
>How come NASA could send men to the moon in 1969 but these millionaires with much more advanced tech haven’t launched a moon mission yet?
Because oldspace is still in charge of a lot of the moon landing program and that shit is taking forever. Also, SpaceX doesn't give two shits about the moon, their objective was Mars colonization, so they've had to retool for the Moon (which is actually harder from a Delta V perspective)
>The public isn’t impressed with this, no matter how fancy you make the technical side of things sound.
I would disagree, a lot of people have been pretty excited about the Starship test flights, especially the ones that don't blow up.
>They will never be conquered
Your tranBlack person soldiers are too weak to win a war against a few goat frickers, they'll get curmstombed like the degenerates by any modern army.
I'm sure Iraq thought something similar in 1991
>curbstomped like the degenerates they are by any modern army
oops
facebook memes? that's what we're doing now? that's embarrassing for you anon
Did you to pass the new combat fitness test, Mike?
imagine bootlicking mike milley of all people lmfao
>t. White general who hates white people and undermined american capability to do war in order to help china.
Well, he was wrong.
>Iraq
Isn't that the country which is now a puppet state of one of america's greatest enemies, Iraq?
*Greatest enemies Iran
>not a monarch
Common criminal in my eyes, explains his satanic anti white and pro banker/monopolistic policies
>muh antiwhiteness
have a nice day /misc/troony.
dilate, literal troony
There is nothing wrong with ingroup preference, it is natural.
Cope.
you will never have an ethnostate
And yet his policies were calculated to create a decline
>inb4 150 posts of LBJgay ranting
I guess this was a dig at Carter's malaise speech.
This was my first thought
And was the president to give amnesty to millions of illegals in the 80s, most of whom resided in California. Which turned the state from one that was politically balanced into left stronghold.
This new block of voters and sanctuary homes to smuggle new immigrants to that were sympathetic helped usher in the complete takeover of California in the 1990s and early 2000s when most hispanics moved into the nation and led to things like the sanctuary state open door to the United States that the state is.
So your are citing the president that actually started the tidal wave of nonwhite immigration.
It's rather odd that leftists would fault Reagan for what a Democrat Congress and also to an extent the Supreme Court did.
>leftist shitposters actually knowing anything about history
Look into it. The 86 amnesty bill would have been more strict originally but the Supreme Court threw out several provisions of it.
I know, the "Reagan gave amnesty" guy is literally one dude
>Iran-Contra
>ignoring the AIDS epidemic
>Bitberg Cemetery
>firing air traffic controllers
>ignoring crack ruining minority neighborhoods
>giving tax cuts to the rich while depriving minorities of necessary social services
>exploiting the ignorance and anti-communist paranoia of middle America
You have to realize just how shitty the country was under Carter to understand what he meant by this.