Have you ever tried kolibrios? I always thought it seemed more interesting than meuetos but I have only tinkered with it a bit. Any reason to fool around with one over the other?
I said it was a feature, not that I was afraid of it. I programmed professionally in Forth from the late 80's through mid 90's. Forth programs will crash pretty immediately if there is the slightest error in the code. By the time it runs (for moderately large values of "run"), it will have very few defects.
It's a very different way to get correctness. Once you get used to it, the zero-point style of programming feels very natural, but the shared stacks mean that any error tends to cause severe errors to rapidly cascade forwards through the program execution, usually halting it within only a few words, so once you crash it's extremely easy to go back and find where things went pear-shaped, because it won't be very far from the crash site. But you will see a lot more crashes during program development, just think of them like syntax errors or dynamic type errors or something common like that, because in Forth they are.
>can't fathom how to do anything substantial with it
Can gforth even generate an executable? Without that feature then there isn't any point trying to do anything substantial with it.
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I think this feature has been lost in recent decades as Forth has devolved to more of a curiosity than a serious tool. FIG-Forth could create a boot disk pretty trivially, and Forth Inc's PolyForth could create executable files, as could Cliff Click's Fifth system (which is by far the neatest Forth system I've ever used, pity it's lost to the ages).
>Dusk OS doesn't have _users,_ but _operators._ What's the difference? Control. You _use_ a phone, you _use_ a coffee machine, hell you even _use_ a car these days. But you _operate_ a bulldozer, you _operate_ a crane, you _operate_ a plane.
>You _use_ Linux, you _use_ Windows. You _operate_ Dusk OS.
I prefer Assembly-based computing.
Have you ever tried kolibrios? I always thought it seemed more interesting than meuetos but I have only tinkered with it a bit. Any reason to fool around with one over the other?
Never tried that one, I'll give it a try.
Come back and tell me what you think if you get a chance
I love it, Its free and has everything you might need.
Thank you anon. I'll keep tinkering around
🙂
A good Forth is essentially an interactive assembler, and in very little code.
Why?
Why would forth-based home computing be better than the C-basd computing we have now?
Forth crashes faster and harder than C.
Just reboot it, stop being afraid of crashes.
I said it was a feature, not that I was afraid of it. I programmed professionally in Forth from the late 80's through mid 90's. Forth programs will crash pretty immediately if there is the slightest error in the code. By the time it runs (for moderately large values of "run"), it will have very few defects.
Is that good?
I think forth is pretty neat. I installed gforth a while ago just to play around with it. But I can't fathom how to do anything substantial with it.
It's a very different way to get correctness. Once you get used to it, the zero-point style of programming feels very natural, but the shared stacks mean that any error tends to cause severe errors to rapidly cascade forwards through the program execution, usually halting it within only a few words, so once you crash it's extremely easy to go back and find where things went pear-shaped, because it won't be very far from the crash site. But you will see a lot more crashes during program development, just think of them like syntax errors or dynamic type errors or something common like that, because in Forth they are.
>can't fathom how to do anything substantial with it
Can gforth even generate an executable? Without that feature then there isn't any point trying to do anything substantial with it.
I think this feature has been lost in recent decades as Forth has devolved to more of a curiosity than a serious tool. FIG-Forth could create a boot disk pretty trivially, and Forth Inc's PolyForth could create executable files, as could Cliff Click's Fifth system (which is by far the neatest Forth system I've ever used, pity it's lost to the ages).
here you go anon, the hard works already been done for you
http://collapseos.org
>Dusk OS doesn't have _users,_ but _operators._ What's the difference? Control. You _use_ a phone, you _use_ a coffee machine, hell you even _use_ a car these days. But you _operate_ a bulldozer, you _operate_ a crane, you _operate_ a plane.
>You _use_ Linux, you _use_ Windows. You _operate_ Dusk OS.
wtf three of those are me.... also, the rest of them are also me from my phone.
and my ax
Frick you you fleshlight fricking newbie, those are MY POSTS