Hey IQfy, troony jannies range banned my entire country so i cant start a new thread. Rec me books that have characters similar to Mr Kurtz and Judge Holden, larger than life supermans who are known for their eloquence and seemingly endless knowledge of things and use this knowledge to dominate and subdue
Depends on how much you like "old timey" sounding prose. For me personally it's a slog to read, over two months later and I still haven't even gotten halfway through, the never ending overly detailed poetic landscape and weather descriptions are really not my cup of tea.
Think I finished two other books in their entirety during this time too, so it's not like there was a shortage of reading mood or
anything.
The character interactions when they happen are good though, which is why I haven't dropped it entirely.
>"old timey" sounding prose
I wouldn't call it old timey, more like up its ass quirky and purposefully unreadable, real nineteenth century prose is more intelligible than Blood Meridian
To each their own but I can’t understand finding the prose boring. His writing style is what makes the book so damn good, otherwise it’s just another Western.
I’m a sucker for old timey prose. Or just an esoteric Southern prose might be more accurate. So I really loved it.
I finished the book about 30 mins ago and will agree that the interactions of the book are the highlights, but many of the descriptions of the debauchery and even the landscapes I found exciting.
The ending of the book is also the best I’ve read in some time. I’m often underwhelmed by endings and this one had me almost thunderstruck.
If the Irishman McCarthy was trying to show a real injustice to the North American Indians, he would have chosen the plot with General Kuster (German), who was a vile thug.
Kuster recruited allies from the Indians, together they destroyed the enemies, because the allied Indians began to celebrate, they got drunk, then Kuster attacked the drunken allies and exterminated them completely.
This is a vile business.
If McCarthy was trying to show real injustice, he would have shown the tragedy of the Civilized Nations, who were driven into the wasteland by the landlords.
Here he takes just an ambiguous, but well-documented plot, and simply turns a real person into the Devil. The real Holden simply did not wear a mustache and beard, which is why he was called "hairless". And here it's just the White Beast, who talks about WAAAAAAAAH.
His family were catholic paddys anon, I know you want to feel smug with your "ERM ACKCHYUALLY MC NAMES ARE MORE SCOTTISH THAN IRISH" shit but it's not really a universal rule. The real reason he isn't Irish is just the simple fact that he's a burgerclap
>but it's not really a universal rule
It is, it just means they were living in Ireland and thus considered themselves Irish. See McGregor. >The real reason he isn't Irish is just the simple fact that he's a burgerclap
True, lad
back in the wild west the us government paid bandits to kill indians and this book is about a group of these bandits that existed in real life, but exageratted
there's some crazy racism in the book
however, the men have great respect for one black guy who murdered a white man who tried to bully him.
and great respect for the delaware indians in the group
great fear and respect for the comanches
but there is a lot of hatred
woe be it if you're weak, you're going to get used
His writing is awful. I don’t know who the first half-wit to pretend his prose was good was, but they were wrong. Is it aesthetically unique? Sure. So are my AOL IMs from 2007.
It's like Lord of the Rings but instead of Middle Earth you get North America, instead of the fellowship you get the Glanton gang, and instead of Sauron you get Judge Holden
I like the part where they let their mule train fall off a cliff and glanton just said whatever who cares.
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i like the part where the judge buys two puppies for like $1000 pesos and he throws them into a river that bathcat is pissing in and he pulls out his gun and shoots the puppies mid-piss.
A bit of a difficult read due to how repetitive and plotless it is, but it's worth it because it has the best ending to a book I've ever read. Last 60 - 80 pages are kino of the highest order
I'm half-way through and really enjoy the story. The prose is good other than the two or three extremely long run-on sentences per chapter that describe a nothing scene. Some people love it, some hate it, but it's not enough to ruin the book for me. Give it a try
>the congregation tent scene >the whole mexican filibuster chapter >the judge origin story >the piss up after cashing in the bounties >the yuma massacre >the entire last act
An interesting book, although thoroughly anti-American.
WiFilike
I'm not an American, thankfully.
Some speculation about true historical events and people. The judge is real.
Hey IQfy, troony jannies range banned my entire country so i cant start a new thread. Rec me books that have characters similar to Mr Kurtz and Judge Holden, larger than life supermans who are known for their eloquence and seemingly endless knowledge of things and use this knowledge to dominate and subdue
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Depends on how much you like "old timey" sounding prose. For me personally it's a slog to read, over two months later and I still haven't even gotten halfway through, the never ending overly detailed poetic landscape and weather descriptions are really not my cup of tea.
Think I finished two other books in their entirety during this time too, so it's not like there was a shortage of reading mood or
anything.
The character interactions when they happen are good though, which is why I haven't dropped it entirely.
>"old timey" sounding prose
I wouldn't call it old timey, more like up its ass quirky and purposefully unreadable, real nineteenth century prose is more intelligible than Blood Meridian
To each their own but I can’t understand finding the prose boring. His writing style is what makes the book so damn good, otherwise it’s just another Western.
I’m a sucker for old timey prose. Or just an esoteric Southern prose might be more accurate. So I really loved it.
I finished the book about 30 mins ago and will agree that the interactions of the book are the highlights, but many of the descriptions of the debauchery and even the landscapes I found exciting.
The ending of the book is also the best I’ve read in some time. I’m often underwhelmed by endings and this one had me almost thunderstruck.
If the Irishman McCarthy was trying to show a real injustice to the North American Indians, he would have chosen the plot with General Kuster (German), who was a vile thug.
Kuster recruited allies from the Indians, together they destroyed the enemies, because the allied Indians began to celebrate, they got drunk, then Kuster attacked the drunken allies and exterminated them completely.
This is a vile business.
If McCarthy was trying to show real injustice, he would have shown the tragedy of the Civilized Nations, who were driven into the wasteland by the landlords.
Here he takes just an ambiguous, but well-documented plot, and simply turns a real person into the Devil. The real Holden simply did not wear a mustache and beard, which is why he was called "hairless". And here it's just the White Beast, who talks about WAAAAAAAAH.
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>Mc
>Irish
lol, lmao even
His family were catholic paddys anon, I know you want to feel smug with your "ERM ACKCHYUALLY MC NAMES ARE MORE SCOTTISH THAN IRISH" shit but it's not really a universal rule. The real reason he isn't Irish is just the simple fact that he's a burgerclap
>but it's not really a universal rule
It is, it just means they were living in Ireland and thus considered themselves Irish. See McGregor.
>The real reason he isn't Irish is just the simple fact that he's a burgerclap
True, lad
A child, you'll see him
cytodendritic
explain the historical context to a non-american moron who's to lazy to do own research
back in the wild west the us government paid bandits to kill indians and this book is about a group of these bandits that existed in real life, but exageratted
Þorvarðína ber að ofan
Black folk
and and and and and and
Being second hand out of breath from reading text completely devoid of punctuation
there's some crazy racism in the book
however, the men have great respect for one black guy who murdered a white man who tried to bully him.
and great respect for the delaware indians in the group
great fear and respect for the comanches
but there is a lot of hatred
woe be it if you're weak, you're going to get used
Am I a brainlet or is this book hard to read?
His writing is awful. I don’t know who the first half-wit to pretend his prose was good was, but they were wrong. Is it aesthetically unique? Sure. So are my AOL IMs from 2007.
START
FRICKING
READING
It's like Lord of the Rings but instead of Middle Earth you get North America, instead of the fellowship you get the Glanton gang, and instead of Sauron you get Judge Holden
There are aspects of this which I liked but I hated the prose and I’m not into Cowboy stuff.
Tortillas, manly grunting, spitting on the ground and babies being swung into trees and rocks by their feet. It's a great book.
I like the scene where they made gunpowder out of piss and charcoal and then killed indians with it
I liked the part where he told the company a story of a man and his family living in the wilderness, that was KINO
>when all the men protest after the story is finished trying to correct it with facts from their own lives
Kino, just kino
No one truly writes like him, it all sounds so kino
I like the part where they let their mule train fall off a cliff and glanton just said whatever who cares.
i like the part where the judge buys two puppies for like $1000 pesos and he throws them into a river that bathcat is pissing in and he pulls out his gun and shoots the puppies mid-piss.
A bit of a difficult read due to how repetitive and plotless it is, but it's worth it because it has the best ending to a book I've ever read. Last 60 - 80 pages are kino of the highest order
The best American novel
Have you really read all American novels?
yep
I'm half-way through and really enjoy the story. The prose is good other than the two or three extremely long run-on sentences per chapter that describe a nothing scene. Some people love it, some hate it, but it's not enough to ruin the book for me. Give it a try
>the congregation tent scene
>the whole mexican filibuster chapter
>the judge origin story
>the piss up after cashing in the bounties
>the yuma massacre
>the entire last act
it would be such a good movie bros
>the Comanche massacre at the end of chapter 5
Absolute kino, in the right director's hands.
Many people have wanted to adapt it to film but found it too hard unfortunately
A lot of Spanish and obtuse plot pivots
epic and biblical allusions. carnage. latinas. monologues.
mineralogía e petrología en estructuras geográficas
it's dogshit
the prose is garbage
people act like using "and" lazily a million timse per sentence is revolutionary, when in fact it reads poorly and is not aesthetic at all.
Lousy opinion.