Psychosis. In the more serious cases they can't even speak. I mean why would you think this is good? Just what?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ah but you venture towards the serious/extreme cases to justify your stance. What is the consensus on the average case and how does it affect the individuals life?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>What is the consensus on the average case and how does it affect the individuals life?
This is sort of a difficult case to answer, but in MOST cases schizophrenia is only diagnosed after some serious impact on function.
Like, if you were going to the doctor and talking about how you believed in aliens, or in God, that is NOT schizophrenia, but if you were autopsying your neighbors in the basement because you thought they were aliens, that might be.
So the diagnosis is related to some functional impact---what is called "schizo" colloquially, e.g. 'wow, that guy doesnt believe in national borders, what a schizo, they're right on the map!' isnt really schizophrenia, its a political opinion, but there is no hard and fast distinction bewteen the two, see the use of sluggish schizophrenia in the uSSR to intern dissidents.
The 'average case" still likely had some sort of serious enough impact on function to be diagnosed schizophrenic. Do you mean what is the average "stable" case taking medication?
This is just from Dr. Google:
"Using data from 11 studies, Hjorthøj et al (2016) showed that schizophrenia was associated with an average of 14.5 years of potential life lost. The loss was greater for men (15.9) than for women (13.6). Life expectancy was greatly reduced in patients with schizophrenia, at 64.7 years (59.9 for men and 67.6 for women)"
If they are on antipsychotics, those drugs have serious side-effects, often including weight gain.
For every John Nash there are many more ppl who basically live on public insurance getting fatter until they get diabetes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If it's a spectrum disorder kind of like autism, I think most normal schizophrenia goes unnoticed by most people and is fairly common. Would say at least 10% of the population could qualify as at least mildly schizophrenic if a doctor really sat down and talked to them for a while. Talking out of my ass. Seems like it might smuggle itself into a genepool via artsy sorts of people, artsy people achieve some kind of preferred status, women are attracted to them, etc. Probably is selected for in religious communities too like what's his face said. Also seems like it genuinely might come in handy when doing really abstract sorts of things like music and math and that. Einstein had a schizophrenic parent or aunt and a schizophrenic son. Many such cases.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay, can you name a single positive of schizophrenia? Can you name a single person who benefited from it?
>What is the consensus on the average case and how does it affect the individuals life?
The consensus is that it is terrible and needs to be studied to be treated/prevented.
That sounds like a personal problem if you can't realize that you're making shit up
2 years ago
Anonymous
For me, through education, and a secular pagan:
Normalization of hedonism culture(braindope)/pleasure through nothing-activity.
Stoicism in the face of enlightenment. e.g. maybe Like the coming 'enlightening digital singularity.'
Algorithmic enlightenment/dominance: the trials of medicine and it's pedagogy. Or do I mean heuristic? I'm down in it.
Facing a projection and being conscious of it, i.e. knowing that you are that and what it is that you are projecting of unconscious chaotic activity, or extinguishment of such by facing the facts/abreaction. That is, more stoicism, except hallucinatory and rationality combined. More emotionality, only when you access it. (if you take meds). An opportunity to do this whenever you wish.
Creativity and a solution.
That's the way to absolve yourself of psychic traumas. 'A dispersing of dusty illusions in the light.'
Not the person you're replying to..... but really, it's a debilitating disconnect from reality. Being schizophrenic means you chronically have delusions that are harmful. It's not a little harmful, it's a lot- like more or less, maximal. 'Severe mental illness.' Like, if you thought your boss was going to kill you, what would you do? A schizophrenic may think their neighbors and everyone is out to get them. Maybe. (or perhaps more surreal things that hit closer to home)
They can't function in the box we need them to fit to have a functioning system. Also, I imagine based schizo posters are never truly alone so they don't get to experience the despair of loneliness.
No. Focusing on details is an symptom of autism, and schizophrenia is the opposite of that. Schizos have a global (see the "big picture") neurotype, not a local one.
1. High deault chocolate consumption
2. Hight monster energy drink consumption
3. Zero coffe consumption
4. Incel title
5. x86 proficiency
6. hyper synced internal clocked that litterally syncs the things you say with the things you'll hear on tv 10 seconds from now
7. makes you feel like the main character of the universe
8. makes the old social control algorithms target you and lead to social isolation
9. it only looks like you're alone, but each decision you take gets transmitted to birds animals trees air and another things until it arrive at the target destination just in time to meet the person who doesn't want to be met
10. everytime you leave home, the sun transforms from yellow orange red to WHITE, and the ground transforms from gray, gray-yellow, gray-green to BLACK, you can't see anyone and anyone else can't see you, it's all just black and white
11. masturbation 202000000 times per day
12. baths feel nice
13. food is talking to you and you're talking to the food
14. random people who don't wanna meet you appear next to you when neither they or you want them to and you appear randomly to people who don't want you and you don't want them
It makes pleasant company out of certain sounds. Especially so when the sounds are coming from a tv in another room with a set few characters talking. Best people you could hope for. Damn I miss them
Wait, schizophrenia is considered bad?
Yes.
Why?
Because it ruins people's lives.
How?
Psychosis. In the more serious cases they can't even speak. I mean why would you think this is good? Just what?
Ah but you venture towards the serious/extreme cases to justify your stance. What is the consensus on the average case and how does it affect the individuals life?
>What is the consensus on the average case and how does it affect the individuals life?
This is sort of a difficult case to answer, but in MOST cases schizophrenia is only diagnosed after some serious impact on function.
Like, if you were going to the doctor and talking about how you believed in aliens, or in God, that is NOT schizophrenia, but if you were autopsying your neighbors in the basement because you thought they were aliens, that might be.
So the diagnosis is related to some functional impact---what is called "schizo" colloquially, e.g. 'wow, that guy doesnt believe in national borders, what a schizo, they're right on the map!' isnt really schizophrenia, its a political opinion, but there is no hard and fast distinction bewteen the two, see the use of sluggish schizophrenia in the uSSR to intern dissidents.
The 'average case" still likely had some sort of serious enough impact on function to be diagnosed schizophrenic. Do you mean what is the average "stable" case taking medication?
This is just from Dr. Google:
"Using data from 11 studies, Hjorthøj et al (2016) showed that schizophrenia was associated with an average of 14.5 years of potential life lost. The loss was greater for men (15.9) than for women (13.6). Life expectancy was greatly reduced in patients with schizophrenia, at 64.7 years (59.9 for men and 67.6 for women)"
If they are on antipsychotics, those drugs have serious side-effects, often including weight gain.
For every John Nash there are many more ppl who basically live on public insurance getting fatter until they get diabetes.
If it's a spectrum disorder kind of like autism, I think most normal schizophrenia goes unnoticed by most people and is fairly common. Would say at least 10% of the population could qualify as at least mildly schizophrenic if a doctor really sat down and talked to them for a while. Talking out of my ass. Seems like it might smuggle itself into a genepool via artsy sorts of people, artsy people achieve some kind of preferred status, women are attracted to them, etc. Probably is selected for in religious communities too like what's his face said. Also seems like it genuinely might come in handy when doing really abstract sorts of things like music and math and that. Einstein had a schizophrenic parent or aunt and a schizophrenic son. Many such cases.
Okay, can you name a single positive of schizophrenia? Can you name a single person who benefited from it?
>What is the consensus on the average case and how does it affect the individuals life?
The consensus is that it is terrible and needs to be studied to be treated/prevented.
What?
That sounds like a personal problem if you can't realize that you're making shit up
For me, through education, and a secular pagan:
Normalization of hedonism culture(braindope)/pleasure through nothing-activity.
Stoicism in the face of enlightenment. e.g. maybe Like the coming 'enlightening digital singularity.'
Algorithmic enlightenment/dominance: the trials of medicine and it's pedagogy. Or do I mean heuristic? I'm down in it.
Facing a projection and being conscious of it, i.e. knowing that you are that and what it is that you are projecting of unconscious chaotic activity, or extinguishment of such by facing the facts/abreaction. That is, more stoicism, except hallucinatory and rationality combined. More emotionality, only when you access it. (if you take meds). An opportunity to do this whenever you wish.
Creativity and a solution.
That's the way to absolve yourself of psychic traumas. 'A dispersing of dusty illusions in the light.'
Not the person you're replying to..... but really, it's a debilitating disconnect from reality. Being schizophrenic means you chronically have delusions that are harmful. It's not a little harmful, it's a lot- like more or less, maximal. 'Severe mental illness.' Like, if you thought your boss was going to kill you, what would you do? A schizophrenic may think their neighbors and everyone is out to get them. Maybe. (or perhaps more surreal things that hit closer to home)
They can't function in the box we need them to fit to have a functioning system. Also, I imagine based schizo posters are never truly alone so they don't get to experience the despair of loneliness.
>that guys a schizophrenic!
>everyone thinks he's a psychopathic killer
many such cases
Exactly, I talk to God, I have a gift, a superpower.
lol
It makes you look hot.
Hyperfocusing over tiny details.
No. Focusing on details is an symptom of autism, and schizophrenia is the opposite of that. Schizos have a global (see the "big picture") neurotype, not a local one.
the complete real number field, make analysis a breeze
Schizoprehenia includes:
1. High deault chocolate consumption
2. Hight monster energy drink consumption
3. Zero coffe consumption
4. Incel title
5. x86 proficiency
6. hyper synced internal clocked that litterally syncs the things you say with the things you'll hear on tv 10 seconds from now
7. makes you feel like the main character of the universe
8. makes the old social control algorithms target you and lead to social isolation
9. it only looks like you're alone, but each decision you take gets transmitted to birds animals trees air and another things until it arrive at the target destination just in time to meet the person who doesn't want to be met
10. everytime you leave home, the sun transforms from yellow orange red to WHITE, and the ground transforms from gray, gray-yellow, gray-green to BLACK, you can't see anyone and anyone else can't see you, it's all just black and white
11. masturbation 202000000 times per day
12. baths feel nice
13. food is talking to you and you're talking to the food
14. random people who don't wanna meet you appear next to you when neither they or you want them to and you appear randomly to people who don't want you and you don't want them
wow, this is literally me!
It makes pleasant company out of certain sounds. Especially so when the sounds are coming from a tv in another room with a set few characters talking. Best people you could hope for. Damn I miss them
schizos believe in viruses and joos, easily controlled fools
>schitzos believe in israelites
I knew they don't actually exist. There is no such thing as israeli people, it's obvious when you think about it.