I also thought Hyperion was shit. Guess who recc'd it?
This book sucked massive BBC Black person wiener
Hyperion is not good at all.
Project Hail Mary from Andy Weir is the best single sci-fi book i've read in a long while.
It's weird since his other books are decent (The Martian) to unreadably bad (Artemis).
Iain M. Banks Culture series is very good, the first book is a bad introduction tho.
I really liked "Excession" for me it's the peak of the series but probably also not the best introduction.
Tbh just read any of them and if you don't like skip around until you like one, then go back and read the ones you skipped later.
The series is not written in a way that would make the order matter much.
Liu Cixin's series "Remembrance of Earth's Past #1" is excellent, tho I found the last book weak. The first two are incredibly good.
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What's with the Hyperion hate? Nobody ever says why it's bad.
Heinlein is kino, I've read all of those and Moon is a harsh mistress has the coolest setting and plot. Starship troopers movie is just better and condensed down the overall theme. Stranger in a strange land was disappointing tho it just turned out to be a Christ metaphor
What else ? I've read time enough for love and have spacesuit, will travel as well. The ending of that one was pretty sick but I don't know if he ever built on that.
Project Hail Mary from Andy Weir is the best single sci-fi book i've read in a long while.
It's weird since his other books are decent (The Martian) to unreadably bad (Artemis).
Iain M. Banks Culture series is very good, the first book is a bad introduction tho.
I really liked "Excession" for me it's the peak of the series but probably also not the best introduction.
Tbh just read any of them and if you don't like skip around until you like one, then go back and read the ones you skipped later.
The series is not written in a way that would make the order matter much.
Liu Cixin's series "Remembrance of Earth's Past #1" is excellent, tho I found the last book weak. The first two are incredibly good.
Project hail Mary was good for half of the book. It would have been much better if he actually have done everything himself and died at the end but no he will learn how to speak alien because he has elementary school teacher super powers. Looking back the book was quite weak.
Remembrance of Earth's Past trilogy was good though but mainly for its Sci fi elements which were caring the whole book and more
Perelandra by C.S. Lewis is good, even though his prose style is not quite up to matching his vision in every regard. The rest of The Space Trilogy is good too, and the final novel That Hideous Strength definitely showcases Lewis at his best and is well worth reading too. It's also a very prescient novel, with much more relevance to today's world than other "dystopian" novels of a similar ilk (1984, Brave New World), being more realistic than them in its vision of the post-war society despite the supernatural elements it uses throughout.
This is my first post in the thread, but I thought it dragged on and was too repetitive to be as long as it was. If it were 100 pages shorter I would've liked it more.
>muh too long
This is the ultimate midwit response used by someone who lacks justification for their disliking something, and it's even more ridiculous when employed against Hyperion, which has a fast-paced frame narrative and five or so engaging stories within it
Its just not interesting past a certain point. That point being the first story since it is the best one in the book. So after page 70 it is just boring right up to the finish line. It does have some cool sci fi concepts in its world building but im not the type of person to sit and theorize about the possibilites of those kind of technologies so who cares.
Yes unironically... The Poet and Thr Scholar (Scholar didnt really land for me the way it apprently does for some though) are the other two that are okayish but the other ones are not interesting at all.
The first story is the most interesting but to be honest it wasn't even that good. The book wasn't worth reading and I'm surprised it gets so much praise.
The entire plot setting is a series of contrived asspulls. Only a few out of the shorts are actually enjoyable reads. Some things, like the soldier fricking the shrike only to pull out and get his dick cut on barbed wire should never have been written. The ending is a cliffhanger designed to make you buy his next novel. Frick that book
>like the soldier fricking the shrike only to pull out and get his dick cut on barbed wire should never have been written.
is that real lmao wtf
isnt the shrike some sort of god monster?
t. never read it
Yes, it's revealed in the second book that the girl-shrike who the soldier fuggs is the monster-shrike's "keeper" of sorts but they're also kinda the same being because the humans (sort of?) won the future AI-Human godwar and got to send the shrike back in time with their shrike-girl and the girl-shrike is also the israelite's reverse-aging daughter and the purpose of the shrike was impale lots of people in eternal agony so that it could lure out a hiding aspect of the human sci-fi god to defeat it in the future war in the past. Something along those lines.
Ironically Hyperion is one of the few scifi novels I quite enjoyed. But I usually don't like scifi since most popular novels are boring genre trash. Maybe that's why the usual scifi crowd dislikes it.
Hyperion is fun to read even though it's moronic. The sequels (3&4) are just ridiculous, and not as much fun because it's a single long and rather boring story, despite some of the outrageous/silly ideas it incorporates
Scifis I enjoyed more than hyperion: >anything by the based wolfster >dick >asimov foundation series and I Robot (the characters are one-dimensional but it gets to the point and I enjoyed the "ideas") >dune
to be tbh I haven't read much else scifi, except something called Spin which was interesting but too long with weak characters
Bakker's Second Apocalypse is the king of IQfy genre fiction, although Neuropath is more explicitly sci-fi and a nice short read. Not as good but also quick and fast paced while putting eliminitivism and epiphenomenalism into the form of an airport page turner horror thriller. Crash Space is similar, and sci-fi, and better, but it's a short story. You can find it free quite easily and is a good intro to Bakker.
It's pretty obvious who didn't read the book in the thread. That's ok. It is a non traditional book that is challenging in the fact that you can't read it like a moronic wine mom jerking off to a romance novel. Sci Fi nerds seethe incredibly hard about this masterpiece because it's a short story collection wrapped under the facade of sci fi wrapped under the facade of horror.
Sci Fi pew pew homosexual virgins will never be able to understand the horror and pain of watching your child die slowly in front of you because they will never have children due to being eternal virgins.
>OYYY VEYY REMEMBER THE SECOND HALL OF COST!
Try harder u fricking pseud, hyperion is trash. Real patrician sci-fi taste lies in Heinlein and Wolf as has already been stated. You probably think my greentext is being ironic but that is exactly how the scholar behaved in the book. A literal israelite with a victim complex.
Star Maker, by Olaf Stapledon. For some odd reason is not as famous as it should or at least I do not see that many people read it. Do not read too much about the plot.
"Sir Arthur C. Clarke considered Star Maker to be "probably the most powerful work of imagination ever written", and Brian W. Aldiss called it "the one great grey holy book of science fiction".[1]"
Unironically is a sci-fi that IQfyizens with a taste of metaphysics, theology and history should read.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Phillip K Dick
My favorite book. What Bladerunner was based on.
Hyperion only had two good parts- The story of the priest and the girl researching the Sphinx. The rest was hot smelly garbage with Keates (yes the dead english poet) shoehorned in constantly for no FRICKING reason. Might as well have Jay and Silent Bob show up to give Keates a blowjob. Would have made as much sense.
Two books by Alfred Bester
1.The Demolished Man(first book to win a Hugo Award, when that actually meant something)
2.The Stars, My Destination( way ahead of it's time
First part feels like a cool Fallout narration and is really engaging. But all the [spoile] quasi-magical narration of the 'wandering israelite' [/spoiler] could have been kept out of the book.
i dont get why hyperion gets so much hate here, i thought sci fi pilgrims getting together and telling each other stories was very comfy even if some of the stories were just weak
Great post anon, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fricked his grandma? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin frick the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good??!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good??? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker??
Any books with incest?
I'm the OHH (original Hyperion hater) and my only problem was that it wasn't a sci-fi novel as /sffg/ led me to believe; It's space opera, also fantasy, and that's cool if that's what you're looking for. Don't expect Egan or Watts.
>space opera
I got memed into the first novel as well and will finish, but agree. Other than an occasional "a space ship appeared to take us away" or a "luminescent bird shit on me," it's just a backdrop.
this was shit
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because it's not bad, it's probably a samegay
I also thought Hyperion was shit. Guess who recc'd it?
>IQfy approved
Are you a woman in need of being told what to think?
I need approval
Ah so you're a woman. Post your breasts.
I'm gonna show you my girl penis
Show me you tiny clitty. Kitten.
The bible. At least it was scifi when it was written.
First for xianxia
This book sucked massive BBC Black person wiener
If you like hard scifi then start with Heinlein.
Starship Troopers.
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Stranger in a Strange Land.
Heinlein is kino, I've read all of those and Moon is a harsh mistress has the coolest setting and plot. Starship troopers movie is just better and condensed down the overall theme. Stranger in a strange land was disappointing tho it just turned out to be a Christ metaphor
What else ? I've read time enough for love and have spacesuit, will travel as well. The ending of that one was pretty sick but I don't know if he ever built on that.
Stranger in a Strange Land was interminable. The self-insert Jubal is as obnoxious as early 2010s Reddit.
God no
So boring
WHERE tf is the sffg thread
Blindsight
Solaris
Tales of the dying earth
Book of the new sun
Some Heinlein
Dune 1-4
Childhoods end (Some will call it reddit)
Philip K Dick
But not hyperion. That book (and series) is trash.
This is a good list, OP. I'd add Roadside Picnic.
Also the first Hyperion book is great.
Hyperion is not good at all.
Project Hail Mary from Andy Weir is the best single sci-fi book i've read in a long while.
It's weird since his other books are decent (The Martian) to unreadably bad (Artemis).
Iain M. Banks Culture series is very good, the first book is a bad introduction tho.
I really liked "Excession" for me it's the peak of the series but probably also not the best introduction.
Tbh just read any of them and if you don't like skip around until you like one, then go back and read the ones you skipped later.
The series is not written in a way that would make the order matter much.
Liu Cixin's series "Remembrance of Earth's Past #1" is excellent, tho I found the last book weak. The first two are incredibly good.
Three body problem fricking sucked dick
the actual scifi part? it's okay. the being a fricking book part? absolute dogshit
>Hyperion is not good at all.
>project meme Mary was the best bo..
stopped reading
Project hail Mary was good for half of the book. It would have been much better if he actually have done everything himself and died at the end but no he will learn how to speak alien because he has elementary school teacher super powers. Looking back the book was quite weak.
Remembrance of Earth's Past trilogy was good though but mainly for its Sci fi elements which were caring the whole book and more
Perelandra by C.S. Lewis is good, even though his prose style is not quite up to matching his vision in every regard. The rest of The Space Trilogy is good too, and the final novel That Hideous Strength definitely showcases Lewis at his best and is well worth reading too. It's also a very prescient novel, with much more relevance to today's world than other "dystopian" novels of a similar ilk (1984, Brave New World), being more realistic than them in its vision of the post-war society despite the supernatural elements it uses throughout.
What's with the Hyperion hate? Nobody ever says why it's bad.
This is my first post in the thread, but I thought it dragged on and was too repetitive to be as long as it was. If it were 100 pages shorter I would've liked it more.
where would you have cut the 100 pages from?
at random
>muh too long
This is the ultimate midwit response used by someone who lacks justification for their disliking something, and it's even more ridiculous when employed against Hyperion, which has a fast-paced frame narrative and five or so engaging stories within it
pssst, anon, it's what they say when they haven't read the book because it's a problem often found in genre fiction
that's why he didn't answer
Its just not interesting past a certain point. That point being the first story since it is the best one in the book. So after page 70 it is just boring right up to the finish line. It does have some cool sci fi concepts in its world building but im not the type of person to sit and theorize about the possibilites of those kind of technologies so who cares.
>still haven't read past the first story
huh, so i accidentally stopped at the perfect point?
Yes unironically... The Poet and Thr Scholar (Scholar didnt really land for me the way it apprently does for some though) are the other two that are okayish but the other ones are not interesting at all.
The first story is the most interesting but to be honest it wasn't even that good. The book wasn't worth reading and I'm surprised it gets so much praise.
People constantly discuss why Hyperion is bad because it's brought up in the sci-fi and fantasy general, by normalgays, on a near-daily basis.
So popular thing bad? Got it
who are you quoting?
The entire plot setting is a series of contrived asspulls. Only a few out of the shorts are actually enjoyable reads. Some things, like the soldier fricking the shrike only to pull out and get his dick cut on barbed wire should never have been written. The ending is a cliffhanger designed to make you buy his next novel. Frick that book
>like the soldier fricking the shrike only to pull out and get his dick cut on barbed wire should never have been written.
is that real lmao wtf
isnt the shrike some sort of god monster?
t. never read it
Yes, it's revealed in the second book that the girl-shrike who the soldier fuggs is the monster-shrike's "keeper" of sorts but they're also kinda the same being because the humans (sort of?) won the future AI-Human godwar and got to send the shrike back in time with their shrike-girl and the girl-shrike is also the israelite's reverse-aging daughter and the purpose of the shrike was impale lots of people in eternal agony so that it could lure out a hiding aspect of the human sci-fi god to defeat it in the future war in the past. Something along those lines.
I knew it was going to end stupidly
>fuggs
Back to tiktok zoomie
Writer self insert is le mary sue god character writing le universe
popular=bad, you're on IQfy boyo
I love redditors who can't distinguish between leaving their ideological hugbox and everyone being blind contrarians
God Emperor of Dune
Ironically Hyperion is one of the few scifi novels I quite enjoyed. But I usually don't like scifi since most popular novels are boring genre trash. Maybe that's why the usual scifi crowd dislikes it.
Three Body trilogy
Hyperion is fun to read even though it's moronic. The sequels (3&4) are just ridiculous, and not as much fun because it's a single long and rather boring story, despite some of the outrageous/silly ideas it incorporates
Scifis I enjoyed more than hyperion:
>anything by the based wolfster
>dick
>asimov foundation series and I Robot (the characters are one-dimensional but it gets to the point and I enjoyed the "ideas")
>dune
to be tbh I haven't read much else scifi, except something called Spin which was interesting but too long with weak characters
Bakker's Second Apocalypse is the king of IQfy genre fiction, although Neuropath is more explicitly sci-fi and a nice short read. Not as good but also quick and fast paced while putting eliminitivism and epiphenomenalism into the form of an airport page turner horror thriller. Crash Space is similar, and sci-fi, and better, but it's a short story. You can find it free quite easily and is a good intro to Bakker.
Anyone rec anything like murderbot? I really can't stand serious genre anymore so need some comedy element like that.
Tasukete Keats, The Shrike wants to suck my dick!
It's pretty obvious who didn't read the book in the thread. That's ok. It is a non traditional book that is challenging in the fact that you can't read it like a moronic wine mom jerking off to a romance novel. Sci Fi nerds seethe incredibly hard about this masterpiece because it's a short story collection wrapped under the facade of sci fi wrapped under the facade of horror.
Sci Fi pew pew homosexual virgins will never be able to understand the horror and pain of watching your child die slowly in front of you because they will never have children due to being eternal virgins.
you read.
No but I pretend I do
>OYYY VEYY REMEMBER THE SECOND HALL OF COST!
Try harder u fricking pseud, hyperion is trash. Real patrician sci-fi taste lies in Heinlein and Wolf as has already been stated. You probably think my greentext is being ironic but that is exactly how the scholar behaved in the book. A literal israelite with a victim complex.
Fanboys are moronic in every medium
Solaris. Also I'm not IQfy guy.
Star Maker, by Olaf Stapledon. For some odd reason is not as famous as it should or at least I do not see that many people read it. Do not read too much about the plot.
"Sir Arthur C. Clarke considered Star Maker to be "probably the most powerful work of imagination ever written", and Brian W. Aldiss called it "the one great grey holy book of science fiction".[1]"
Unironically is a sci-fi that IQfyizens with a taste of metaphysics, theology and history should read.
Pic related
Anything by Asimov
Anything by Neal Stephenson
Anything by Greg Egan
Almost anything by Alastair Reynolds
>Almost anything by Alastair Reynolds
I'd like you to give a percent for this cause 'almost anything' is pushing it
Revelation space series
House of suns
Pushing ice
Everything else is kinda meh
Diamond Dogs and Turquoise Days are good
>Asimov
Wrong board
>Anything by Asimov
Asimov wrote a lot of trash, anon
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? by Phillip K Dick
My favorite book. What Bladerunner was based on.
Hyperion only had two good parts- The story of the priest and the girl researching the Sphinx. The rest was hot smelly garbage with Keates (yes the dead english poet) shoehorned in constantly for no FRICKING reason. Might as well have Jay and Silent Bob show up to give Keates a blowjob. Would have made as much sense.
Two books by Alfred Bester
1.The Demolished Man(first book to win a Hugo Award, when that actually meant something)
2.The Stars, My Destination( way ahead of it's time
Pic related. Also Echopraxia > Blindsight. Fight me.
>farking awesome fr fr
Classless. Dropped.
Yes it’s unfortunate but authors have next to no control over cover design etc. that’s entirely the publishers prerogative.
M. John Harrison’s “Light” trilogy is excellent.
Tried to read hyperion yesterday and it was total dogshit. Who reads this slop? Tossed it in my burn pile at page 9.
that was one of the good chapters
Ilium-Olympos was written by the guy who wrote Hyperion
Difference: Its actually entertaining
Frick, shit, ass, meecrob
sorry brain damaged
It's hardly SciFi today, but it's a great read.
First part feels like a cool Fallout narration and is really engaging. But all the [spoile] quasi-magical narration of the 'wandering israelite' [/spoiler] could have been kept out of the book.
i dont get why hyperion gets so much hate here, i thought sci fi pilgrims getting together and telling each other stories was very comfy even if some of the stories were just weak
Great post anon, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fricked his grandma? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin frick the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good??!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good??? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker??
Any books with incest?
I have skimmed through this thread and decided that I will be dipping my toes into sci-fi with Dune. Thanks IQfy.
One of the best books I have read was Steel beach by Varley.
Good plot, lots of weird scifi concepts and incredible storytelling.
Really worth a try.
I'm the OHH (original Hyperion hater) and my only problem was that it wasn't a sci-fi novel as /sffg/ led me to believe; It's space opera, also fantasy, and that's cool if that's what you're looking for. Don't expect Egan or Watts.
>space opera
I got memed into the first novel as well and will finish, but agree. Other than an occasional "a space ship appeared to take us away" or a "luminescent bird shit on me," it's just a backdrop.
The Night Land is a great book
Be sure to read the original, not the butchered version for idiots
>read the original
You mean the one that's unreadable dreck? How about just skip this shit and read Lovecraft if one has to read "cosmic horror".
I needed to read an actual literary classic after I finished this as a palate cleanser for it's awful prose.
The Book of Mormon
Ebin
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