Fair point, paradox has been historically shit at tutorials from what I remember. I've learned it from a friend.
I don't know what state CK3 is in at the moment, but I prefer 2 for all the features it has and I also think the UI is cooler (except maybe the map)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I was skeptical about ck3 and refused to buy it. However I got it on sale to play with a friend and it’s honestly pretty great. It feels more like a simulator and role playing game. It has a very solid base and it will probably well eclipse ck2 with some time. For instance, the next updates will add the ability to play landless characters and overall the Byzantine empire’s systems. However, it’ll take time and dlcs are too expensive.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
To be honest, I've given Paradox so much money already, I kinda refuse to buy any more of their games, so for me it's mostly just a question of whether or not it is worth my time.
But playing landless characters actually sounds fun as hell
Tho I am a millennial who grew up inb the 90s, and I have a special place in my heart for a game called Lords of the Realm 2.
Total war series was basically inspired by this game. It really captures the feeling and atmosphere of a medieval world. It was the game that started the whole Strategy + Battle dual gameplay.
>Tho I am a millennial who grew up inb the 90s, and I have a special place in my heart for a game called Lords of the Realm 2.
I still fire that game up from time to time. It had some dumb exploity bullshit you could do, and motte and bailey castles were way too powerful, but yeah, it was loads of fun.
I never discovered any exploiting, besides AI behaviour during combat. You can basically win any battle by spamming archers and a few pikemen. It's still quite a difficult game. I usually play the France map on highest difficulty
>motte and bailey castles were way too powerful
Because the AI usually insist on attacking from the outside, trying to dig up the waterway. You basically just stack 200 archers. At least with the stone tower, the AI attacks the actual gate and you need a mixed force to hold them off.
What I love about that game tho is that it really captures the spirit of the medieval period, far better than Medieval Total War 2 does for some reason.
>I never discovered any exploiting, besides AI behaviour during combat.
I discovered a few. In no particular order:
>If you start building a castle, and then upgrade it before it's finished, (So say, you start with a palisade. You upgrade it to a motte and bailey, you start working on it, and then before you finish, you upgrade again to a Royal Castle) you can imediately get to use the tax bonus of the new castle even before it's completed or before you've gathered the materials to start working on it. >You can get a lot of mileage out of 50 peasant armies wrecking your opponent's fields and industries. >This is doubled up by the fact that the AI spends a brief moment considering and then makes all of its moves at once; you actually have a simultaneous turn on the overland map. So if you're quick on the draw, you can have your raiding armies 'dodge' as you move a space or two in any direction as he tries to move an army to attack them. >Growing grain and selling all your cows might not be an exploit per se, but it's massively efficient and certainly feels exploity. >Keeping all your picketing forces in enemy lands so they eat their food instead of yours. >Building Motte and Bailey castles will instantly spawn archers who cost more than the amount of resources needed to build the Motte and Bailey castle.
>you can basically win any battle by spamming archers and a few pikemen.
You'll want some macemen too for rapid strikes, especially looping around and hitting your enemy's archers/crossbowmen.
>What I love about that game tho is that it really captures the spirit of the medieval period, far better than Medieval Total War 2 does for some reason.
Not sure I'd agree. Although I don't think either really captures the spirit of real medieval life; and I don't think a map-painter really can. Any game that doesn't give you massive headaches just administering your own lands is going to miss out on a lot of what real medieval rulers were actually doing.
Yeah choices and shit. Have to manage decisions and traits. Ik they are making a second one. It's pretty good if you wanna chill and read/play an interesting story.
>select random >start in wales as count >slowly expand >various legendary heroic figures strive to unite the lands >king of wales marries attractive princess of scotland and fights for her claim >gradually chip away at anglo saxons to liberate Lloegyr >the leper emperor of prydain who miraculously lived to age 80 or something >holy wars in the baltic and then a crusade into russia >crusades are a success and christendom spreads to the holy land, north africa and Russia >fight crusades and win some land >welsh culture spreading across the world >lay claim to Venice, invade it and make it my capital, it has a nice garden that gives me longevity >intrigue on the continent for years and years >then in one swoop manage to fight for claims to Germany and France as 2 Kings die and leave disputable heirs >also have scions of my dynasty with claims on the byzantine empire >Rome will be so glad their lost enclave survived and worked so hard to restore Imperivm Romanvm over the centuries >now hueg
this is where I left off a year ago, my plan was to unite with byzantine Empire and build "imperial cities" in my demesne with 5 cities and a church and build wonders on them to spread technology and raise loyalty and stability, my government will be tanistry ensuring only my dynasty can rule and everyone votes for the most charismatic ruler with the best loyalty bonuses, I might convert to cathar also
celtic songs for flavor
neat
they should have a feature where you click events in the log and record them in a chronicle, I'd like to see people's stories
Unequivocally based, though the last few DLCs and updates were excessive.
>select random >start in wales as count >slowly expand >various legendary heroic figures strive to unite the lands >king of wales marries attractive princess of scotland and fights for her claim >gradually chip away at anglo saxons to liberate Lloegyr >the leper emperor of prydain who miraculously lived to age 80 or something >holy wars in the baltic and then a crusade into russia >crusades are a success and christendom spreads to the holy land, north africa and Russia >fight crusades and win some land >welsh culture spreading across the world >lay claim to Venice, invade it and make it my capital, it has a nice garden that gives me longevity >intrigue on the continent for years and years >then in one swoop manage to fight for claims to Germany and France as 2 Kings die and leave disputable heirs >also have scions of my dynasty with claims on the byzantine empire >Rome will be so glad their lost enclave survived and worked so hard to restore Imperivm Romanvm over the centuries >now hueg
this is where I left off a year ago, my plan was to unite with byzantine Empire and build "imperial cities" in my demesne with 5 cities and a church and build wonders on them to spread technology and raise loyalty and stability, my government will be tanistry ensuring only my dynasty can rule and everyone votes for the most charismatic ruler with the best loyalty bonuses, I might convert to cathar also
celtic songs for flavor
neat
they should have a feature where you click events in the log and record them in a chronicle, I'd like to see people's stories
>they should have a feature where you click events in the log and record them in a chronicle, I'd like to see people's stories
That's basically what the newest DLC about legends does.
BTW here's the map of the realm from the inside. I specifically made sure that all Dukes under my direct control were within their De Jure borders and were Republican vassals.
To be honest, I've given Paradox so much money already, I kinda refuse to buy any more of their games, so for me it's mostly just a question of whether or not it is worth my time.
But playing landless characters actually sounds fun as hell
Does the table change based on your religion/culture/tech?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No, he has a mod installed while I just have all the DLCs, although some icons are region and culture specific, like Spanish, Arabic, Norse, etc.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That sucks, would have been a great way to give the game just a little more flavor, like how the CK2 UI changed depending on government type
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Well Tribals and Muslims have different UIs, sadly steppe hordes don't exist yet
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
What about Republics? I felt like those had the most interesting internal events in 2
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They're unplayable as of now, but we'll definitely get a DLC for them one day, along with Theocracies.
As vassals they're very useful as they provide tons of taxes at the cost of levies (which are useless after the first 4-5 decades) and basically never revolt.
Kingdom Come: Deliverance was a lot of fun. Made by a Czech team that did incorporated a ton of historical research that made medieval Bohemia pretty believable, although I am not a medievalist. Combat and rpg were also pretty solid and the story was very well written. Definitely would recommend.
Really makes me want to replay that game, but then I also think of some of the more annoying quests and I'm not sure if I want to have to go through those again.
Victoria 3 has grown on me. Needs faster colonization and for the AI to have more reasonable goals (America seems to like expanding into Europe) but the geopolitics seems more reasonable for the most part and the world is more dynamic as a whole. Vic 2 every game the world outside of what I do seemed to end up no different between playthroughs and anarcho liberals and communists cycle revolting en masse became tedious especially if you had non-contiguous colonies like the UK or France.
I am interested in Civ because of the depiction of the leaders. My pc sucks and doesn't even work, so I wish I could play it on my phone but not even Civ6 was developed for android.
I really like the artistic depiction of historical figures in games. What can I play?
You will have some extremely interesting artistic depictions of 19th century historical figures. And it's an old game, so even if you're dealing with a shitty PC, you you should be able to run it.
I like Grand Tactician Civil War. Also Field of Glory and Field of Glory Medieval are good war games.
Legue of legends
*fixed
>Indian Moroccans
Imagine the smell
glorious
there is a joke here about not redeeming [gameplay mechanic]
Why not CK2?
Tutorial sucked compared to 3 so I never got into it
Fair point, paradox has been historically shit at tutorials from what I remember. I've learned it from a friend.
I don't know what state CK3 is in at the moment, but I prefer 2 for all the features it has and I also think the UI is cooler (except maybe the map)
I was skeptical about ck3 and refused to buy it. However I got it on sale to play with a friend and it’s honestly pretty great. It feels more like a simulator and role playing game. It has a very solid base and it will probably well eclipse ck2 with some time. For instance, the next updates will add the ability to play landless characters and overall the Byzantine empire’s systems. However, it’ll take time and dlcs are too expensive.
To be honest, I've given Paradox so much money already, I kinda refuse to buy any more of their games, so for me it's mostly just a question of whether or not it is worth my time.
But playing landless characters actually sounds fun as hell
>Irish Isles
>FitzGeralds still exist
Eu4 with mayo and taxes 2.5. I also like TW: Med2, Shogun 2 and Attila
Nothing will ever beat Medieval Total War 2
Tho I am a millennial who grew up inb the 90s, and I have a special place in my heart for a game called Lords of the Realm 2.
Total war series was basically inspired by this game. It really captures the feeling and atmosphere of a medieval world. It was the game that started the whole Strategy + Battle dual gameplay.
>Tho I am a millennial who grew up inb the 90s, and I have a special place in my heart for a game called Lords of the Realm 2.
I still fire that game up from time to time. It had some dumb exploity bullshit you could do, and motte and bailey castles were way too powerful, but yeah, it was loads of fun.
I never discovered any exploiting, besides AI behaviour during combat. You can basically win any battle by spamming archers and a few pikemen. It's still quite a difficult game. I usually play the France map on highest difficulty
>motte and bailey castles were way too powerful
Because the AI usually insist on attacking from the outside, trying to dig up the waterway. You basically just stack 200 archers. At least with the stone tower, the AI attacks the actual gate and you need a mixed force to hold them off.
What I love about that game tho is that it really captures the spirit of the medieval period, far better than Medieval Total War 2 does for some reason.
>I never discovered any exploiting, besides AI behaviour during combat.
I discovered a few. In no particular order:
>If you start building a castle, and then upgrade it before it's finished, (So say, you start with a palisade. You upgrade it to a motte and bailey, you start working on it, and then before you finish, you upgrade again to a Royal Castle) you can imediately get to use the tax bonus of the new castle even before it's completed or before you've gathered the materials to start working on it.
>You can get a lot of mileage out of 50 peasant armies wrecking your opponent's fields and industries.
>This is doubled up by the fact that the AI spends a brief moment considering and then makes all of its moves at once; you actually have a simultaneous turn on the overland map. So if you're quick on the draw, you can have your raiding armies 'dodge' as you move a space or two in any direction as he tries to move an army to attack them.
>Growing grain and selling all your cows might not be an exploit per se, but it's massively efficient and certainly feels exploity.
>Keeping all your picketing forces in enemy lands so they eat their food instead of yours.
>Building Motte and Bailey castles will instantly spawn archers who cost more than the amount of resources needed to build the Motte and Bailey castle.
>you can basically win any battle by spamming archers and a few pikemen.
You'll want some macemen too for rapid strikes, especially looping around and hitting your enemy's archers/crossbowmen.
>What I love about that game tho is that it really captures the spirit of the medieval period, far better than Medieval Total War 2 does for some reason.
Not sure I'd agree. Although I don't think either really captures the spirit of real medieval life; and I don't think a map-painter really can. Any game that doesn't give you massive headaches just administering your own lands is going to miss out on a lot of what real medieval rulers were actually doing.
Octavia Chad's where we at??
>blue humper
She pretty.
Here!
Isn't this the kind of visual novel you click through in a couple hours? Does the game have any interesting game mechanics?
Yeah choices and shit. Have to manage decisions and traits. Ik they are making a second one. It's pretty good if you wanna chill and read/play an interesting story.
Great game, but very rough around the edges.
Unequivocally based, though the last few DLCs and updates were excessive.
Correct.
Here's my perfect game as a Norse Muslim in India, it's hyper-autisitc but I enjoyed creating the realm
>select random
>start in wales as count
>slowly expand
>various legendary heroic figures strive to unite the lands
>king of wales marries attractive princess of scotland and fights for her claim
>gradually chip away at anglo saxons to liberate Lloegyr
>the leper emperor of prydain who miraculously lived to age 80 or something
>holy wars in the baltic and then a crusade into russia
>crusades are a success and christendom spreads to the holy land, north africa and Russia
>fight crusades and win some land
>welsh culture spreading across the world
>lay claim to Venice, invade it and make it my capital, it has a nice garden that gives me longevity
>intrigue on the continent for years and years
>then in one swoop manage to fight for claims to Germany and France as 2 Kings die and leave disputable heirs
>also have scions of my dynasty with claims on the byzantine empire
>Rome will be so glad their lost enclave survived and worked so hard to restore Imperivm Romanvm over the centuries
>now hueg
this is where I left off a year ago, my plan was to unite with byzantine Empire and build "imperial cities" in my demesne with 5 cities and a church and build wonders on them to spread technology and raise loyalty and stability, my government will be tanistry ensuring only my dynasty can rule and everyone votes for the most charismatic ruler with the best loyalty bonuses, I might convert to cathar also
celtic songs for flavor
neat
they should have a feature where you click events in the log and record them in a chronicle, I'd like to see people's stories
>they should have a feature where you click events in the log and record them in a chronicle, I'd like to see people's stories
That's basically what the newest DLC about legends does.
BTW here's the map of the realm from the inside. I specifically made sure that all Dukes under my direct control were within their De Jure borders and were Republican vassals.
Imagine paying for stuff online, lol.
Does the table change based on your religion/culture/tech?
No, he has a mod installed while I just have all the DLCs, although some icons are region and culture specific, like Spanish, Arabic, Norse, etc.
That sucks, would have been a great way to give the game just a little more flavor, like how the CK2 UI changed depending on government type
Well Tribals and Muslims have different UIs, sadly steppe hordes don't exist yet
What about Republics? I felt like those had the most interesting internal events in 2
They're unplayable as of now, but we'll definitely get a DLC for them one day, along with Theocracies.
As vassals they're very useful as they provide tons of taxes at the cost of levies (which are useless after the first 4-5 decades) and basically never revolt.
culture spreading across the world
VGH...
I like to go for a Norse Neo-Carthaginian Empire
>Invade Tunis
>Expand across med
>Convert to Islam
>Form Sunni Caliphate
CK2 > CK3
Kingdom Come: Deliverance was a lot of fun. Made by a Czech team that did incorporated a ton of historical research that made medieval Bohemia pretty believable, although I am not a medievalist. Combat and rpg were also pretty solid and the story was very well written. Definitely would recommend.
Jesus Christ be praised
Really makes me want to replay that game, but then I also think of some of the more annoying quests and I'm not sure if I want to have to go through those again.
Victoria II is my favorite Paradox game
Victoria 3 has grown on me. Needs faster colonization and for the AI to have more reasonable goals (America seems to like expanding into Europe) but the geopolitics seems more reasonable for the most part and the world is more dynamic as a whole. Vic 2 every game the world outside of what I do seemed to end up no different between playthroughs and anarcho liberals and communists cycle revolting en masse became tedious especially if you had non-contiguous colonies like the UK or France.
I am interested in Civ because of the depiction of the leaders. My pc sucks and doesn't even work, so I wish I could play it on my phone but not even Civ6 was developed for android.
I really like the artistic depiction of historical figures in games. What can I play?
Custer's Revenge.
Explain how this is what I should play based on what I said in my post.
You will have some extremely interesting artistic depictions of 19th century historical figures. And it's an old game, so even if you're dealing with a shitty PC, you you should be able to run it.
What historical figures I find in this game?
George Armstrong Custer.
>most posts about Paradox map-coloring garbage
>nobody mentioned actual historical RPG kinos like the AC series
proof IQfy is full of autists
Med2 total war is pretty amazing
assassins creed lol