No there aren’t. All that is just snake oil bullshit. You focus on your breath. If that’s too hard then you count them as well. Any “theory” on top of that is just useless crap. Conceptual models are just weak attempts to somehow reduce the absurd complexity of what actually happens in the mind to a few problematic words. Even the use of the words “focus” and “breath” shouldn’t be taken to show what’s actually going on. You won’t get any benefit from knowing the “theory.”
>you VILL chain yourself down to my particular brand of pretentious mythology I constructed around meditation! You VILL NOT actually meditate, you will just read about it and then sit down to repeat my dogma in your head and call it meditation! You MUST read books to gain knowledge, even though nobody who writes them agrees on anything!
Breathe in for 6 seconds and hold your breathe for 6 seconds and breathe out in 6 seconds. Don't count the numbers just do it closely enought. This is all you need for "mindfulness". If you want more experienced things you should go a bit further than that and look jos meditations. I don't think there are better meditations for them.
This is wrong, and potentially dangerous advice. You can also discard this OP. Don't take advice on how long your inhale/exhale/breath hold should be. It is dependent on way too many things and yes, you can mess with your health that way.
9 months ago
Anonymous
If you think thead holding your breath for 6 seconds is harmfull for you just do it 3 seconds. It's not mandatory to doing 6 seconds its all about focusing.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Read again. Also, don't give instructions if your reading comprehension is poor, that won't end up well.
9 months ago
Anonymous
If you're 300lbs fat amerimutt maybe you can't hold your breath for 3 seconds but for the rest of normal humans that would be totally fine. Stop acting like a genius midwit.
9 months ago
Anonymous
OP can also note that when posters that try to speak on meditation here are told they are wrong, they immediately throw themselves into projection and start acting defensive. I wouldn't take advice from a person that cannot talk even once what they said is questioned.
Maybe there is a reason why OP asked for books and for your opinion, huh?
Usually people asking these kinds of questions are looking for some kind of peace of mind or greater control themselves. You won't get any of that through watching your breath. The only to get it is to restrain yourself from activities you don't want to engage in (but feel compelled to by cravings). Mindfulness is nothing more than the realization, in the midst of some activity, that one is acting out of a craving. Once that realization has been established, you are responsible for everything follows after it. In other words, in that moment, you have the choice to stop what you are doing, to stop acting out of craving. That is the only meditation that you need.
>have thought
>go back to breathing
motherfrickers actually need a book for this?
But there are differen techniques and theories that apply to them
No there aren’t. All that is just snake oil bullshit. You focus on your breath. If that’s too hard then you count them as well. Any “theory” on top of that is just useless crap. Conceptual models are just weak attempts to somehow reduce the absurd complexity of what actually happens in the mind to a few problematic words. Even the use of the words “focus” and “breath” shouldn’t be taken to show what’s actually going on. You won’t get any benefit from knowing the “theory.”
ok, are there any books that give a more detailed account of your views on meditations?
There is no more detail that can be found in words.
This is wrong, you can discard it OP.
>you VILL chain yourself down to my particular brand of pretentious mythology I constructed around meditation! You VILL NOT actually meditate, you will just read about it and then sit down to repeat my dogma in your head and call it meditation! You MUST read books to gain knowledge, even though nobody who writes them agrees on anything!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
Breathe in for 6 seconds and hold your breathe for 6 seconds and breathe out in 6 seconds. Don't count the numbers just do it closely enought. This is all you need for "mindfulness". If you want more experienced things you should go a bit further than that and look jos meditations. I don't think there are better meditations for them.
This is wrong, and potentially dangerous advice. You can also discard this OP. Don't take advice on how long your inhale/exhale/breath hold should be. It is dependent on way too many things and yes, you can mess with your health that way.
If you think thead holding your breath for 6 seconds is harmfull for you just do it 3 seconds. It's not mandatory to doing 6 seconds its all about focusing.
Read again. Also, don't give instructions if your reading comprehension is poor, that won't end up well.
If you're 300lbs fat amerimutt maybe you can't hold your breath for 3 seconds but for the rest of normal humans that would be totally fine. Stop acting like a genius midwit.
OP can also note that when posters that try to speak on meditation here are told they are wrong, they immediately throw themselves into projection and start acting defensive. I wouldn't take advice from a person that cannot talk even once what they said is questioned.
Maybe there is a reason why OP asked for books and for your opinion, huh?
*not for your opinion
This breathing exercise is good for calming the mind and body. It's best done before you begin meditating.
Shame. Have all the shame you want. Have infinite shame.
Staring the Wall by Badar Nizam
Usually people asking these kinds of questions are looking for some kind of peace of mind or greater control themselves. You won't get any of that through watching your breath. The only to get it is to restrain yourself from activities you don't want to engage in (but feel compelled to by cravings). Mindfulness is nothing more than the realization, in the midst of some activity, that one is acting out of a craving. Once that realization has been established, you are responsible for everything follows after it. In other words, in that moment, you have the choice to stop what you are doing, to stop acting out of craving. That is the only meditation that you need.
Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha (1st edition is better than 2nd)
The Mind Illuminated