Would you say that studying astrology to the point you can predict futures market movements a "concrete goal", because that's more realistic than anything in OPs pic.
>How dare you entertain unrealistic dreams of making the universe better for humanity
Regarding only the first two, we very well might never come close to these things, no one is actually working on them and futurism has always been more miss than hit.
But working towards imaginary advance technology, even if we never get there, still advances technology.
>no one is actually working on them
That we know of. Neuralink seems to be a step in the first thing's direction.
I love these threads where its exposed just how little higher education the average IQfy poster actually has. You two are completely moronic, you understand nothing about neuroscience or the economics of space travel.
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A step towards mind upload. Probably way in the future, as in by the time anyone advances that far, most of us will be either dead or have fully gray hair.
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You really have no educational background in this at all and are just guessing as a means of bargaining/coping.
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You believe the horsemen of the apocalypse and that a 2000 year old man will raise from the dead any day now.
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Yes, both our systems are equally based on faith and certain assumptions which can't be proven, thats true.
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Yes. Happy now?
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I never even implied we will achieve these things. Inspiration is a thing and its important. >neuroscience or the economics of space travel.
Since most higher education is focused on one field, most people with a higher education don't know a lot about these fields either.
>But specific great men have goals. And they can direct humanity.
lmao
humanity is getting dumber with each generation
soon AI will make a lot of forms of knowledge, skill and intellect obsolete driving humanity further down the dysgenic path of stupidity
it's over for us, friendo
Problem is there's no incentive for those great men to realize their goals. Or rather, for society to allow those great men to realize their goals. This isn't Europe in the 1400s and 1500s where every monarch had incentives to sponsor voyages around the Atlantic Ocean, nor is it the mid-20th century where the superpowers have incentives to launch astronauts into space and even land on the moon. This is more like the Ming Dynasty where we can't sponsor our treasure voyages because we have to deal with the barbarians in the interior. ("Barbarian" is simply a metaphor for domestic or planetary concerns, just as the Mongols and Manchus were for the Ming Dynasty.)
The future is always crazier. The longer things go on the more your sand god will change, you can't do anything about it. Time will change your objective prime mover.
The singularity will probably happen at some point - it's just the idea that there will be sudden rapid tech development once AI gets good enough to design better versions of itself. Mind upload and colonial space empire are obviously nonsense, world federalism doesn't seem impossible, and it isn't clear what exactly would qualify as a marxist tech utopia.
The only thing we can do, and the same thing we do about religion: make fun of it point out why it doesn't make sense. People are always going to be attracted to stuff that's too good to be true though.
he's making threads again
Having concrete goals for humanity as it exists is more productive than sitting and praying over a book for a deity to come clean up the mess for you
Would you say that studying astrology to the point you can predict futures market movements a "concrete goal", because that's more realistic than anything in OPs pic.
Oh gosh, it’s all so complicated, what can we possibly do? Better pray about it.
>How dare you entertain unrealistic dreams of making the universe better for humanity
Regarding only the first two, we very well might never come close to these things, no one is actually working on them and futurism has always been more miss than hit.
But working towards imaginary advance technology, even if we never get there, still advances technology.
>no one is actually working on them
That we know of. Neuralink seems to be a step in the first thing's direction.
I love these threads where its exposed just how little higher education the average IQfy poster actually has. You two are completely moronic, you understand nothing about neuroscience or the economics of space travel.
A step towards mind upload. Probably way in the future, as in by the time anyone advances that far, most of us will be either dead or have fully gray hair.
You really have no educational background in this at all and are just guessing as a means of bargaining/coping.
You believe the horsemen of the apocalypse and that a 2000 year old man will raise from the dead any day now.
Yes, both our systems are equally based on faith and certain assumptions which can't be proven, thats true.
Yes. Happy now?
I never even implied we will achieve these things. Inspiration is a thing and its important.
>neuroscience or the economics of space travel.
Since most higher education is focused on one field, most people with a higher education don't know a lot about these fields either.
humanity has no concrete goal
it's just fricking eating shitting and profit - that's all humanity does
capitalism yay
Go to church, obviously. None of that is more ridiculous than revelation.
People will fantasize, that's what we do.
But specific great men have goals. And they can direct humanity.
>But specific great men have goals. And they can direct humanity.
lmao
humanity is getting dumber with each generation
soon AI will make a lot of forms of knowledge, skill and intellect obsolete driving humanity further down the dysgenic path of stupidity
it's over for us, friendo
Problem is there's no incentive for those great men to realize their goals. Or rather, for society to allow those great men to realize their goals. This isn't Europe in the 1400s and 1500s where every monarch had incentives to sponsor voyages around the Atlantic Ocean, nor is it the mid-20th century where the superpowers have incentives to launch astronauts into space and even land on the moon. This is more like the Ming Dynasty where we can't sponsor our treasure voyages because we have to deal with the barbarians in the interior. ("Barbarian" is simply a metaphor for domestic or planetary concerns, just as the Mongols and Manchus were for the Ming Dynasty.)
>nooo you can't have goals and aspirations for the future, just lay down and wait 2 more weeks for a rabbi to save you from entropy
grim outlook
The future is always crazier. The longer things go on the more your sand god will change, you can't do anything about it. Time will change your objective prime mover.
Christchuds think they'll get to live in gold houses but this is what awaits them after death
OP has already made this exact thread before so shit it up, chop chop.
That's right, run to janny! Janny will save you from this thread!
Wail all you like, xer can't hear your screams here.
You're never going to live on mars or even find life on mars, there will be no catharsis. Cope. Seethe.
ywnbfv (you will never be from venus)
The singularity will probably happen at some point - it's just the idea that there will be sudden rapid tech development once AI gets good enough to design better versions of itself. Mind upload and colonial space empire are obviously nonsense, world federalism doesn't seem impossible, and it isn't clear what exactly would qualify as a marxist tech utopia.
Why do you keep spamming this thread? Revelation is still dumber and less likely than all of these.
Not with that attitude for sure.
>escapism
>entirely religion is just pseudo-capeshit copied from elsewhere
The only thing we can do, and the same thing we do about religion: make fun of it point out why it doesn't make sense. People are always going to be attracted to stuff that's too good to be true though.