>What data does this device collect?
It collects error logs if you enabled the relevant settings. Else, nothing. >Why does it even have Internet access?
To get updates for games. For online gameplay. To download games.
I think you can play without internet to offline games, but some games probably need the latest OS.
>Truly? If so, this thing is even more secure than Ubuntu, which is wild.
Ubuntu is a free (as in free beer) commercial operating system, the free version earn them money thanks to ads and sponsorships, and is useful for them to have a stable professional version, that you have to pay for having support for. I don't think Canonical is evil, unlike Microsoft, but they have financial benefits from tracking you, to solve bugs.
Nintendo sells you a Nintendo Switch, then earn money from selling games. They take a commission for each game sold for the Switch. That's it. They don't have any benefits from tracking you, or selling data on you. They don't even need to fix any bug, as you're stuck with them anyway.
If you turn on parental mode, you can see playtime per game and other statistics in their phone app. Nintendo probably keeps track of anonymous player data, like how many people are playing a certain game. Anything related to the shop is probably collected periodically (e.g. purchase history, engagement). Muliplayer games track your location. Profile and friend data is also probably tracked. Cloud backups probably don't require much user data.
All of that is pretty much what you would expect from such a platform.
>Nintendo probably keeps track of anonymous player data, like how many people are playing a certain game. Anything related to the shop is probably collected periodically (e.g. purchase history, engagement). Profile and friend data is also probably tracked.
Probably? This is schizo bullshit. It would be illegal to do so without disclosing it, and there is absolutely no reason to hide it because all other gaming companies do it anyway (like Epic Games, that collects and sells all your data, but has the most played videogame). >Muliplayer games track your location.
This is not Nintendo's fault. Mario Kart and other Nintendo's games won't. And it's not different than any other gaming platform. >All of that is pretty much what you would expect from such a platform.
Conspiracy theory. Not an argument.
>Else, nothing.
Oh, so you have access to the source code? No? Shut the frick up. You don't know what the proprietary program is doing because its proprietary. Google doesn't need to know a persons sleep schedule, average walking speed, and frequently visited locations, but they collect that data anyway through Androids proprietary code. Wise up, man.
>browse the web
Poorly known fact: the Switch actually does have Firefox built in, some of the screens (I don't remember which ones) are webapps rendered in it. They don't let users access it because the Wii, the WiiU and the 3DS all could be hacked through the webbrowser.
You could do most of these things on 3ds as well. Nintendo locked down the switch os hard after most exploits that enabled cfw on 3ds and wiiu used some cool feature like the browser or the music app.
No fun allowed, there still was a hardware exploit found within days of release that took Nintendo 2 years to fix. So backup loading was there from day one.
I'm wondering if people are going to buy the switch 2 as early as possible just for that purpose
I think nintendo got a little wiser over the years on how to keep their shit from being easily torn apart (other than through a modchip)
Nah, their hardware guys are absolutely clueless. They originally wanted to only put 2GB of RAM into this thing, they only raised the limit after gamefreak told them how stupid they are.
Also they used an pretty much unmodified tegra x1 and did not even disable recovery mode. Fricking incompetent.
And don't get me started on the thumbsticks, they start drifting if you look at then funny.
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Yeah they're not exactly the sharpest. But to this day the OLEDs are still not just as easy to mod as the average 2017 model. Only recently did a flashcart come out for this thing (and it works like ass). Getting a console banned is much easier as well. It's not like in the DS days where you could get away with fricking anything and antipiracy on certain games got patched within a few days.
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Yeah, also I think it's really funny that for years pirates were just downloading games from nintendos official servers. And they weren't even sneaky about it, everyone was doing it.
Btw if you really want a piracy enabled switch OLED then check out aliexpress, they sell switches with mod chips pre installed for very reasonable prices.
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I would grab a modded OLED, but it's hard for me to justify getting a second switch when lately I'm not using it much.
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I sold mine a year ago, never missed it. I just got a deck tho.
Apparently it collects a ton of telemetry. Not just for Nintendo but developers can access telemetry data too.
It's just videogames though so not nearly as creepy as your web browser sending URLs.
>What data does this device collect?
Telemetry about what you're playing, tied to device IDs, network IDs and of course your account. They use this to hand out bans. >Why does it even have internet access?
Did you get frozen in 2005?
I think Shitendo is too retarted for that. They are wore than israelite tough and want to constantly confirm you payed for games you play
>payed
>What data does this device collect?
It collects error logs if you enabled the relevant settings. Else, nothing.
>Why does it even have Internet access?
To get updates for games. For online gameplay. To download games.
I think you can play without internet to offline games, but some games probably need the latest OS.
>It collects error logs if you enabled the relevant settings. Else, nothing.
Truly? If so, this thing is even more secure than Ubuntu, which is wild.
>Truly? If so, this thing is even more secure than Ubuntu, which is wild.
Ubuntu is a free (as in free beer) commercial operating system, the free version earn them money thanks to ads and sponsorships, and is useful for them to have a stable professional version, that you have to pay for having support for. I don't think Canonical is evil, unlike Microsoft, but they have financial benefits from tracking you, to solve bugs.
Nintendo sells you a Nintendo Switch, then earn money from selling games. They take a commission for each game sold for the Switch. That's it. They don't have any benefits from tracking you, or selling data on you. They don't even need to fix any bug, as you're stuck with them anyway.
If you turn on parental mode, you can see playtime per game and other statistics in their phone app. Nintendo probably keeps track of anonymous player data, like how many people are playing a certain game. Anything related to the shop is probably collected periodically (e.g. purchase history, engagement). Muliplayer games track your location. Profile and friend data is also probably tracked. Cloud backups probably don't require much user data.
All of that is pretty much what you would expect from such a platform.
>Nintendo probably keeps track of anonymous player data, like how many people are playing a certain game. Anything related to the shop is probably collected periodically (e.g. purchase history, engagement). Profile and friend data is also probably tracked.
Probably? This is schizo bullshit. It would be illegal to do so without disclosing it, and there is absolutely no reason to hide it because all other gaming companies do it anyway (like Epic Games, that collects and sells all your data, but has the most played videogame).
>Muliplayer games track your location.
This is not Nintendo's fault. Mario Kart and other Nintendo's games won't. And it's not different than any other gaming platform.
>All of that is pretty much what you would expect from such a platform.
Conspiracy theory. Not an argument.
>Else, nothing.
Oh, so you have access to the source code? No? Shut the frick up. You don't know what the proprietary program is doing because its proprietary. Google doesn't need to know a persons sleep schedule, average walking speed, and frequently visited locations, but they collect that data anyway through Androids proprietary code. Wise up, man.
The PSP was better 19 years ago. Could play video, show porn, browse the web and even stream music.
We accepted a technically inferior device because we are addicted to bing bing wahoo.
>browse the web
Poorly known fact: the Switch actually does have Firefox built in, some of the screens (I don't remember which ones) are webapps rendered in it. They don't let users access it because the Wii, the WiiU and the 3DS all could be hacked through the webbrowser.
The switch has already been jailbroken by forcing recovery mode, it's a arm tablet after all, it acually makes a decent linux tablet
I thought the switch still used webkit?
The PSP web browser was barely functional
You could do most of these things on 3ds as well. Nintendo locked down the switch os hard after most exploits that enabled cfw on 3ds and wiiu used some cool feature like the browser or the music app.
No fun allowed, there still was a hardware exploit found within days of release that took Nintendo 2 years to fix. So backup loading was there from day one.
I'm wondering if people are going to buy the switch 2 as early as possible just for that purpose
I think nintendo got a little wiser over the years on how to keep their shit from being easily torn apart (other than through a modchip)
Nah, their hardware guys are absolutely clueless. They originally wanted to only put 2GB of RAM into this thing, they only raised the limit after gamefreak told them how stupid they are.
Also they used an pretty much unmodified tegra x1 and did not even disable recovery mode. Fricking incompetent.
And don't get me started on the thumbsticks, they start drifting if you look at then funny.
Yeah they're not exactly the sharpest. But to this day the OLEDs are still not just as easy to mod as the average 2017 model. Only recently did a flashcart come out for this thing (and it works like ass). Getting a console banned is much easier as well. It's not like in the DS days where you could get away with fricking anything and antipiracy on certain games got patched within a few days.
Yeah, also I think it's really funny that for years pirates were just downloading games from nintendos official servers. And they weren't even sneaky about it, everyone was doing it.
Btw if you really want a piracy enabled switch OLED then check out aliexpress, they sell switches with mod chips pre installed for very reasonable prices.
I would grab a modded OLED, but it's hard for me to justify getting a second switch when lately I'm not using it much.
I sold mine a year ago, never missed it. I just got a deck tho.
Apparently it collects a ton of telemetry. Not just for Nintendo but developers can access telemetry data too.
It's just videogames though so not nearly as creepy as your web browser sending URLs.
Oh no. They're going to figure out your shit taste.
>nintendo
The thing that would worry some about telemetry on the switch is getting their console banned for playing pirated games.
My tpm vulnerable switch was banned so hard that I couldn't even download updates from ninty anymore.
Just do cfw and don't hide it, once you're blacklisted nobody will get your data anymore.
Mine? 0
>What data does this device collect?
Telemetry about what you're playing, tied to device IDs, network IDs and of course your account. They use this to hand out bans.
>Why does it even have internet access?
Did you get frozen in 2005?
>Why does it even have Internet access?
so you can pay Nintendo a yearly subscription to store your save files
just dont connect it to the internet
it has a game card slot for a reason