What did he tried to accomplish by publishing his books? Isn't esoterism meant to be restricted to an elite?
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What did he tried to accomplish by publishing his books? Isn't esoterism meant to be restricted to an elite?
You cracked the code, he is plebcore.
>What did he tried to accomplish by publishing his books?
You typed it wrong, probably you're not into the elite that René wrote for.
'"plebcore'" Back to twitter, globohomo
Schuon is nu-orientalism and also gay friendly
YES
'"rosicrucianism'" you just have understood Guenon 0%
Rosicrucianism is what Guenon preaches to a tee. Every single thing he wrote can be found in Rosicrucian texts, the Hindu, Egyptian, and Muslim influence, the claims of primordial religion, the insistence on esotericism. What he’s preaching is just Rosicrucianism quite obviously.
Weren't they based though?
Guénon thinks they were extremely based, but that they disappeared in the late 1600s. Everyone else was a larper according to him.
was this the inspiration for the Wacky Races?
Is the cartoon show Wacky Races proper initiation into an esoteric tradition?
I don't know anything about these guys really but I always remember this picture.
What this image says to me is it was made by a bunch of cool bros that like machines and wings. Hermes? Never heard of her.
No. They were a made up heresy, literally a modern-pseudo religion that did not exist before modernity and were a not insignificant influence on the enlightenment.
Primordial religion was more than likely a real thing that formed the ancient societies as we know them.
Guenonbros… I’m starting to like Schuon more than Guenon…
It happens to the best of us... the true patrician take is to prefer Coomaraswamy
>Ananda Kentish Muthu Coomaraswamy
Keyed
young coomman looks like michael cera topkek
where did you find that picture?!
Delete this NOW!!!
To me the real dualogy is Schuon vs. Evola.
all his wheelchair era books are great
I just learned this past week that he probably would have died had he not gone for the stroll during the air raids
>he probably would have died had he not gone for the stroll during the air raids
It was destiny.
it's too bad that much of his freemasonry documents were destroyed in that raid
apparently his goal, along with the Nazis, was to not destroy Freemasonry, but to purify it and remove all anti-traditional rites.
Look into Coomaraswamy.
PBUH
leaving breadcrumbs for people to follow, he's always been clear that in any case you need to be initiated through proper channels
He’s never been clear, about anything. To me, Guenon just appears as Rosicrucianism in new garb, and the only justification he has for of his claims is that they are “intuitive”. In other words, he has no justification. Obscuring things behind a cloak of esotericism and a vague intuition is the complete opposite of clear.
Holy fricking shit what a moron I can’t imagine what it’s like to have your iq if you really read him
Haha, why read when Wikipedia exists, right moron?
I'll post my question here since this looks like the Guenon general:
Recently finished East and West, now I'm half past Crisis of the modern world. I'm not really enjoying these books, my critiques are:
- He never elaborates on his critiques of modernity, he is literary the "refuses to elaborate" meme in real life. I know he dislikes the obsession with quantity over quality, equality, proselytism of the west, and what not.
- Their critiques are all over the place. Any chapter is a good reason to repeat what he already said before. I enjoyed the first chapter of CotmW where he mentions the Kali Yuga, that might have been his most interesting chapter from what I have read so far.
With that in mind, I have several questions:
- Are his books on Hinduism better than his critiques to modernity?
- Is it worth reading "The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times" or is it more of what I have already read?
- How does Guenon compare to Evola (never read him), specifically when it comes to criticizing modernity? Of course, I'm also interested in their perennialistic views.
you took on two weak-ish books imho, as far as I'm concerned, The Reign of Times is its magnum opus, Symbolism of the Cross is good as well, on more down to earth matters I also preferred Spiritual Authority & Temporal Power over East&West
CotmW feels rather like an introduction to the Reign of Times imho
Evola's interests were broader to begin with, he talks about race, sex, politics, metaphysics/hermetism, etc..., on their criticism of modernity I think they more or less align
>The Reign of Times
*of Quantity and the signs of Times
Thanks, well I'll finish this and continue with Reign.
Tbh Crisis is clearly not his most interesting book. Where Guénon really excels is when he talks about metaphysics or symbolism, ie Symbolism of the Cross, Perspectives on Initiation, etc.
There's basically two types of Guénon enjoyers : those who like the 'political' side of it (they tend to like more Crisis, Spiritual Authority and Temporal Power...) and the those who prefer the 'religious' stuff (Introduction to Hindu Doctrines is not too bad on that front). Reign is a bit of a hybrid. Maybe you lean more on the symbolic & metaphysics side.
Though what you are complaining about it rather typical in Guénon. He writes as a messenger whose job is to briefly explain this or that particular topic from the perspective of 'Tradition'. He is completely uninterested in 'proving', debating or convincing anyone about anything, which is often frustrating because he often makes assertions without much interest on elaborating on them, as in take it or leave it.
if you want a good and deep critique of the modern world, you need to read Heidegger
>Are his books on Hinduism better than his critiques to modernity?
Man and his becoming is his most important work
Yeah but good luck understanding it before reading anything else of him
Guenon and Evola are "literally who" hack authors of 20th century who should've been forgotten if not for the nerds on this board with very specific niche interests.
Don't waste time. Read something better
Like Schuon?
They’re not worth it at all. I spent years on these guys and the only positive thing to come out of was that it brought me closer to Christianity once I caught onto the charade.
How is it a charade?
same, i studied perennialism for years with some of the most important traditionalist scholars like Garcia Bazan and in the end it only served me to take the first step in the Vajrayana path, which is a total different beast,and makes perennialism look like a shallow and forced "astrology for incels" type of hobby
to paraphrase Charles Upton on this topic: it is completely natural to spend some years as a perennialist at the beginning before going down a real Traditionalist path.
the danger lies when one remains a perennialist forever as it become a pseudo-religion in itself.
> first step in the Vajrayana path
tell us more about it
add me on discord and I will invite you to the official guénon server
Julian#4590
You tell that every time and yet you still have not added me
who are you? add me, I changed accounts
Check your friend requests, I just sent you again. I have eagles as profile pic
lol I am moronic, I just realized that my name is Jul(upper case i)an#4590
ok I am really moronic lmao, sorry but is a bit late rn, I meant Ju(upper case i)ian
>Rene-guenon
I have no idea who he is.
Some literal who
the guy who invented the monkey NFT's
The more important question is why guenongay felt the need to make Guénon known to this whole board. Anyone interested in esotericism would have inevitably came across his work, but after guenongay we now have mouthbreathing poltards and trannnyleftists as well as fedora science gays desecrate his work. I hope he is happy about that.
Bataile
>Bat-ACK!