What do y'all think abt the Green Wall in Africa?

I'm mostly a math type of guy, so i know nothing abt environment and shit. What do environmental scientists think abt this wall?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Looks cool. No clue about the sience but it look prettym .

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    sounds like a nice and moronic billion dollar grift.
    I somehow doubt a single reputable agency backs this idea

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the UN is apparently funding a lot of it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >reputable

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          that's what i'm trying to get across lol. the un isn't reputable

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The entire budget of the UN is 0.3% of the US military budget. How much could they fund? Stop making up nonsense. The UN isn't funding shit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The UN is more of a coordinator than a direct funder. Money they're spending on it likely is just to cover administrative costs of organizing money from everyone else. The estimated cost to complete the project is $35 billion. So far $15 billion has been pledged and about $3 billion actually transferred into the project's accounts.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's fine. The point is to stop and possibly reverse the spread of desertification. It works reasonably well, but it's not a silver bullet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >reverse the spread of desertification
      Which would destroy the Amazon.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not Africa's problem.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >oh no, Jeff Bezos will make less profit

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it'll last if the annual North African Monsoon doesn't fail
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41612-023-00441-z

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some smart asses thought up a new way to sucker idiots into giving them money for their own personal enrichment.

    Here's what happens. They will spend a tiny proportion of the money on planting out a few hectares so they have something for publicity purposes. Some overseas visitors come over and have their pics taken against a vista of green saplings and bushes in the desert. Helps with more fund raising back home. But after the photo-shoot those hectares will not be properly maintained ( i.e. watered ) and will die. A bit more of the money is spent on local bribes. The rest, the overwhelming bulk of the money, is swallowed by "administrative" costs. This is a perfectly legal way for these scam artists to steal the money by paying themselves huge salaries and run huge personal expense accounts. Charities have always been onto this scam since forever. Red Cross. Save the Children, Oxfam, UNICEF, you name it, they all do it to a greater or lesser extent.

    A few years roll by and everyone forgets about it until its reinvented under a new guise.

    Now just for a laugh imagine if this was a project undertaken by genuine legitimate people who actually dedicated most of the money to this undertaking. Firstly it relies heavily on irrigation. With water nearly anything will grow nearly anywhere. So the major expense of this project will be in supplying water to arid areas. However what will happen is the locals will tap into this water supply and effectively sabotage the efforts by crowing crops and running livestock, which is far more meaningful to them in the short term than some long term hand wringing attempt to stop desertification.
    Ironically the project will make the situation worse as marginal lands then become overgrazed and over cropped. Any trees that do manage to grow will be felled for firewood by the same locals. Violence will then erupt as the locals begin competing for the water. Within a few year it will all be ruined.

  6. 2 months ago
    El Arcón

    Looks good.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Indeed it sounds like a grift. It's expected to happen with climate change anyway, I guess they plan to take credit.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >As of 2023, the Great Green Wall was reported as "facing the risk of collapse" due to terrorist threats, absence of political leadership, and insufficient funding. “The Sahel countries have not allocated any spending in their budgets for this project. They are only waiting on funding from abroad, whether from the European Union, the African Union, or others.” said Issa Garba, an environmental activist from Niger, who also described the 2030 guideline as an unattainable goal. Amid the existing stagnation, a growing number of voices have called for scrapping the project.
    Africa is Africa. Some things just never change.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't worry, there's way too much money to misappropriate for this project to fully fail. Someone else will step in to present a scaled down version, or just the full version with a new name. Just increase the bribes to national politicians, pay the local tribes a visit with either a pocket full of trinkets or a bag of anthrax, and employ a marketing firm ( run by a family ) to breath new life into its publicity and fund raising.

      Maybe get Greta to support it with some kind words, make some donations to Greenpeace, pay some popular music group to sing a song about it with accompanying tik tok videos. Compare it to the renaissance. Talk about Wakanda. Lots of pictures of grateful smiling African children. Pay Netflix to make a positive nature documentary about it...
      ...
      Hey frick, maybe I should be in charge of this project. Lets see, a starting salary of let's say $900,000 a year for 12 hours work a week. Oh yeah and a non-accountable $5 million per year expenses account. Plus a white sheet to directly employ anyone I want, none of who have to have any qualifications or relevant experience verified. All of who are paid monstrous salaries and who all have similarly large expenses accounts. Yup. Got to have the right people for the task. They can learn on the job.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good in theory. Bad in practice. Pointless to do this due to the mismanagement in those countries.

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