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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The incels were ALWAYS right. If you aren't an incel, you're very likely just a femme slave.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      correct

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What if you're a rapist?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You write your own philosophy like I do

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you're a normal man with a functioning brain who's had enough interaction with the opposite sex, this book will tell you nothing new. Manipulation has always being the female modus operandi, we have simply given them the free reign to screw us over with it instead of punishing them for it like our forefathers did.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Women lie always. Even the “good” ones manipulate guys and play games. Just don’t take them seriously and you’ll be fine.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Just don’t take them seriously
        I don't, neither do other men who aren't the soi types. It's the society we live in that does. I've been assigned to female managers before. It was a total shitshow. Can I not take them seriously? Well, I could, but that would mean my job performance would tank. What if I take them seriously? They just make me into their b***h boy. What if my boss understands this and stops assigning women to such positions? The state will intervene and tell him he needs to satisfy quotas for whatever reason. It's a lose-lose game at any workplace.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Just do enough that you won’t get fired. Bare minimum. Working hard won’t get you anywhere these days. Stick around for a year and then look for a higher paying job.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I am not the type who is satisfied with the bare minimum. It’s all or nothing at all for me. Women in any meaningful position grind my fricking gears because they act precisely the way you’re describing. My dad was a CEO and managed real estate. Every time I hear this opinion I am reminded of countless times my dad came home fuming over some homosexual not doing his fricking job and ruining company performance. It’s too ingrained into my psyche to ignore it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There’s no use busting your ass for no rewards. No promotion, no nothing. Just do what is required of you and leave it at that. Don’t stress yourself out for no reason.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            non-Aryan behavior

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Slave behavior.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            have fun with your mediocre job where you slave for someone else your whole life lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you wont escape it either, youll just have more money and more grey hair. your dad pawned off a philosophy on you that wont ever pay out

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I've been assigned to female managers before. It was a total shitshow.
          Elaborate

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I won't go into detail as to not doxx myself. The gist of it is this. Women are so hardwired by nature to breed and raise children that they project this behavior in every environment. At a workplace, this means that she will treat her superior as her daddy, her inferiors as her children, and her colleagues as jealous siblings. Let's go over each one.
            >superior
            Act like a spoiled indolent brat who constantly trades for favors and uses her female brain to hypnotize the boss into forgetting any wrongdoing of hers. Climbing the career ladder is purely social for women and has nothing to do with either skill or output. You can be sure that any non-autistic woman in a position of authority got there by manipulation. And they never keep their word, it's not in their vocabulary.
            >colleagues
            Petty squabbles and little to no camaraderie. The amount of meaningful cooperation is directly proportional to the male-to-female ratio. Having a man with balls in a team that is mostly women is a must. Women would just subconsciously assign him as a quasi-superior and cease the bullshit. A team of all women is like a snake pit.
            >inferior
            She is the authority, because her title says so. You must follow her every command like a dumb little child. If you directly confront her, she starts hissing at you and throwing passive-aggressive comments in your direction. She will make you do whatever she wants you to do with no regard to your own opinion. Your only option is, as suggested, to not take her seriously. Let her seethe all she wants and do your own thing. If you have any balls and integrity, she won't do anything about it. The team cohesion, however, tanks as a result.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you for the insights Anon. I thank god every day that I could chose an education that will allow me to work alone being my own boss, but what you describe I can remember from high school- and college group assignments where males and females had to work together. Exactly the same social dynamics, just without a corporate ladder.

            You can be sure that women who decide to climb the career ladder suffer from some kind of mental illness, like a personality disorder or an unsatiable appetite for power due to childhood negligence, which they can never fulfill since it's not in their biology to seek and fill positions of power. This is not sexism but truth. Unfortunately, I can already observe that behavior in my sister, but I knew all that shit before that. I talked about my parents and they know, too, so they push her to finally have children. She already has a morally good and financially succesful man. God I hope she decides to go the right way.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            P.S: I read the book and put it halfway down. Not because it's bad, the opposite, she makes a lot of good points. One could argue this was one of the first redpill books about social dynamics between males and females. The reason I put down the book is because it became just to black pilled at one point. She makes it seem that a man can not live a life where's he's not some kind of slave to a woman, which of course is not right. Knowing I disagree with the points that came after the moment I decided to quit the book, I knew that I read everything important. I especially liked the part where she made fun of men wearing beards just to imply masculinity or academic education, which in reality is just a way to cover their face from women and life, maybe even to conceal the facial reaction when they talk to attractive women, because men either know or feel in their guts (from their childhood), that a woman can interpret facial microexpressions in a man's face quite accurate, which in case of academics and Hippies in the 70's and 80's, who just like today are usually the most afraid of attractive women, and subordinate to their power, is a good way to hide their facial micro expressions.

            Ever noticed over the years, as men in the west get weaker and weaker giving up their social power position, more and more men wear beards? Even is they only have stubbs or it just looks awkward? Especially those Hippe guys who try to wear a moustache without having the facial hair density to make it look masculin enough. Rather like something that helps stimulate a woman's clit when they perform oral sex on them, which is a subordinate position during sex. Nothing wrong with that, but they carry it over into real life, unconsciously implicating subordinance to females. You think we only think consciously? Lol. Lmao even.

            Be real to yourself Anon. Why do you have a beard? And if the answer falls into the category described above, shave it the frick off, show that you are not afraid of any hoe no matter how beaitful she is, and also never wear a mustache if you can't grow a proper one or if you have a baby face. On god.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >She makes it seem that a man can not live a life where's he's not some kind of slave to a woman, which of course is not right.
            "“Marry, and you will regret it; don’t marry, you will also regret it; marry or don’t marry, you will regret it either way."
            t. Kierkegaard
            >the beard rant
            It's mostly cultural and depends on the time period. Peter the Great introduced a beard tax as part of his Westernization campaign. It fell in and out of fashion during Roman times. It's not really saying much in an objective sense. I believe you're vastly overthinking this.

            > Women lie always. Even the “good” ones manipulate guys and play games.
            This is bullshit. You just haven't met enough women. The "good" ones attempt to conduct shit tests or "manipulate" guys to do something they want, but they're so bad at it that if you don't recognize it, your socail skills are Tekken 1rst rank noob tier.
            Your mind is literally to weak to spot their innocent and cute attempts at shit testing you. So you have to work on that. They can't change their nature but you can become a borderline psychopathic behaviour reading predator, and then even the social games of very attractive and desired women will feel like a joke to you. Trust me I did the transformation.
            If you can't beat the weakest guy in the boxing gym, it's not his fault for training there, but yours for being to weak. Start training, that means going out, meating women and reading some literature. Men think they are weaker in social games than women, because they are permanently taught that "guys are the rational ones, and gals are the emotional one's and you can't beat them in their own discipline". This is only true for default state. Men's brains though are designed to be able to adapt to the most different circumstances and behaviours since we have been the one's that had to risk our life's constantly hunting and killing, or fighting.
            We can get into any game we want, and the social one is an easy one as long as you have at least a crumb of emotional intelligence.

            >This is bullshit
            >The "good" ones attempt to conduct shit tests or "manipulate" guys to do something they want, but they're so bad
            This isn't bullshit, it's the truth. He didn't say they were good or bad at it. He said they do it, unlike men. Saying some are bad is like saying men aren't confrontational, because soibois exist. And just because you learned to navigate their mindgames doesn't mean that they don't practice it. The question many socially inept or autistic people have is why in the world would someone attempt such behavior in the first place. Especially in the modern world where women are given every opportunity to not act like this. Yet they still do.

            amen. all the whining and crying about women being "le evil" on 4chinz is just that, whining and crying. every single "black pilled" post about women on here is written by someone who just couldn't play the game.
            women are inferior to men. period. we can all agree on this, right? so what's the problem? don't give up so easily. be a fricking man. just cause shit's hard doesn't justify you giving up and then spending the rest of your days crying about it.

            Why should I play some stupid games in the first place? This isn't exclusive to romance, you know. I know have to play these bullshit games everywhere. Socializing, work, education, gym, hobbies, everything. I just wanna fricking grill, my man. You can be as adept at it all you want, it doesn't change the fact that this bullshit is pervasive and exhausting. Two hundred years ago, you could just fricking chill with your bros without some female intervening and turning the place into a circus. Now it's an impossibility outside of autistic places like 4chinz and trannie discord servers.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I just wanna fricking grill, my man.
            So just grill, brother. Why are you subscribing to their bullshit? Look at your picrel. That's it. Why are you playing their games? The second you feel yourself getting sucked in to their clown shit, just check out. Some moron boss woman at your job starts being moron boss woman, just keep it pragmatic. Let them twirl and b***h and dance and babble and turn everything into a moron soap opera all they want. You're above that shit. Why are you letting it bother you?
            >you learned to navigate their mindgames
            that's where you're wrong. you cant navigate their mindgames. you simply don't play them. casanova, chads, don juan, ladies men, they don't even register their bullshit. some chick comes at me and starts babbling, I treat her like a hobo with shit stained pants begging for money "nah I'm good, thanks" is the appropriate response and then just move the frick on

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why are you subscribing to their bullshit?
            >The second you feel yourself getting sucked in to their clown shit, just check out.
            >then just move the frick on
            You don't have to subscribe to anything for them to turn a social space into a circus. Your inaction doesn't do anything meaningful. If you check out of everything in life, you might as well become a hermit while everything you love turns into a joke. What did this inaction do to our modern company culture, media, film, game development? We have woke shit everywhere, but men just check out. I haven't seen a good piece of media in well over a decade. At this rate, men are losing simply by "being pragmatic" as you put it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Stop thinking my fellow intelligent, over-thinking gentleman, and start doing.
            Don't think.
            Do.
            And you know what you must doe but you don't because of fear, so you intellectualize it as not to take is seriously.
            But it is. Whatever it is my man, start doing things with your 2 hands, stop analyzing. DO

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >comes on IQfy
            >says you should do and not think

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            my advice applies to women being morons. nowhere did i say to apply inaction towards everything else. but i know an argumentative person when i see one so I'm done here. enjoy being a victim.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >nowhere did i say to apply inaction towards everything else
            And nowhere did I state anything about anything else. I'm still talking about women.
            >but i know an argumentative person when i see one so I'm done here. enjoy being a victim.
            What is the point of hanging out in this board if you're going to say these things lmao? You fricking PUA dudebros and christcucks need to go to

            [...]

            if all you're looking for is to preach.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >And nowhere did I state anything about anything else.
            Orly?

            >Why are you subscribing to their bullshit?
            >The second you feel yourself getting sucked in to their clown shit, just check out.
            >then just move the frick on
            You don't have to subscribe to anything for them to turn a social space into a circus. Your inaction doesn't do anything meaningful. If you check out of everything in life, you might as well become a hermit while everything you love turns into a joke. What did this inaction do to our modern company culture, media, film, game development? We have woke shit everywhere, but men just check out. I haven't seen a good piece of media in well over a decade. At this rate, men are losing simply by "being pragmatic" as you put it.

            >If you check out of everything in life

            serious question: how's that victim mentality working out?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My dude, you need to chill and stop projecting your insecurities onto others.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks for putting my thought's into words, have no time to reply to the replies to my long ass posts, but shit like that has to be said.
            Hate the game? Dont' play it. Most people will dislike you. But the one's who you will find will cherish and love you forever. Trust me.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Soibois are a modern phenomenon created by feminists

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Ever noticed over the years, as men in the west get weaker and weaker giving up their social power position, more and more men wear beards?
            There are writings written by romans where they compare the shaved modern men of their time with the bearded men of older times. Always unfavorably. Beards were the fashion in old rome.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            also, there is no unconscious

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            from Kazakhstan with love

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Climbing the career ladder is purely social and has nothing to do with either skill or output
            >You can be sure that any non-autist in a position of authority got there by manipulation
            >They never keep their word, it's not in their vocabulary.
            >Petty squabbles and little to no camaraderie.
            >Having a man with balls in a team is a must.
            >You must follow her every command like a dumb little child.
            Reminds of military service, tbh. Which was exclusively male. The only meaningful difference being that in the military the authority straight up punishes you instead of going passive-aggressive.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, it’s telling that the Emperor’s personal guard in Dune is exclusively female. They don’t understand much beyond authority.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Leto's personal guard in Dune is exclusively female because it helps Leto to cope with his suffering from the lack of female intimacy in his life caused by him being a God Emperor and also a giant worm with no genitals. He is like a Crusader Kings player RPing with his toy female warriors because it makes his inceldom easier to bear, and he acknowledges it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you need intimacy when you’re a giant worm with no genitalia? Aren’t those worms fairly solitary?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Do you need intimacy when you’re a giant worm with no genitalia?
            Anon who is Hwi Noree? Did you even read the book?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, my knowledge is limited to the memes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Women lie always. Even the “good” ones manipulate guys and play games.
        This is bullshit. You just haven't met enough women. The "good" ones attempt to conduct shit tests or "manipulate" guys to do something they want, but they're so bad at it that if you don't recognize it, your socail skills are Tekken 1rst rank noob tier.
        Your mind is literally to weak to spot their innocent and cute attempts at shit testing you. So you have to work on that. They can't change their nature but you can become a borderline psychopathic behaviour reading predator, and then even the social games of very attractive and desired women will feel like a joke to you. Trust me I did the transformation.
        If you can't beat the weakest guy in the boxing gym, it's not his fault for training there, but yours for being to weak. Start training, that means going out, meating women and reading some literature. Men think they are weaker in social games than women, because they are permanently taught that "guys are the rational ones, and gals are the emotional one's and you can't beat them in their own discipline". This is only true for default state. Men's brains though are designed to be able to adapt to the most different circumstances and behaviours since we have been the one's that had to risk our life's constantly hunting and killing, or fighting.
        We can get into any game we want, and the social one is an easy one as long as you have at least a crumb of emotional intelligence.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          amen. all the whining and crying about women being "le evil" on 4chinz is just that, whining and crying. every single "black pilled" post about women on here is written by someone who just couldn't play the game.
          women are inferior to men. period. we can all agree on this, right? so what's the problem? don't give up so easily. be a fricking man. just cause shit's hard doesn't justify you giving up and then spending the rest of your days crying about it.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't read gender bullshit and that includes MRA shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This book was written by a woman

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, and? Still MRA shit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Black person

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women look human...they pass for human...we want to frick them...but they may as well be a different species. Here's one woman who blew her life savings, betting that women could go it alone:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What a lot of people don't realize about this book is that it's actually feminist. All Vilar is doing is taking feminist theory and flipping it on its head to show that it's men who are oppressed by women, not the other way around. However, since this book is built using false feminist principles as a foundation (namely blank-slatism), it too is refuted by the same arguments that are made against more common feminist works.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >built using false feminist principles as a foundation (namely blank-slatism), it too is refuted by the same arguments that are made against more common feminist works.
      how so?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Biology. More specifically, the natural differences between men and women. The academics still holding on to blank-slatism are just coping about these findings invalidating their theories of egalitarianism. Blank-slatism is also used to justify troony shit as well, so that's another reason why academics still desperately cling to this outmoded theory.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that doesn't explain how vilar is wrong

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I remember a criticism I had about this book akind to yours. I think it was that she goes from this different road to the same progressivism as feminism with the idea of changing everything. She theoritically deny the just and wise domination of men, so she doesn't have to call for it to stop like other feminists. After all she also diffamate all sexs, and all their history, here by saying all men are spineless victims. There is a truth in this, shared with the account of the bible, but it's not the whole truth, men still have to dominate and thus take responsabilities and were not always manipulated.
      We cannot believe totally a woman, and a israeli woman moreover. She too does have a negative vision of the just and wise hierarchy, she too, is a progressist.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i do not deny that much of what she wrote is true, but no one can deny that she has a serious hate-boner for womankind, either.
    i think that at a point in her life, due to an event or just a sudden realization,she was able to see the nobility that the masculine can be capable of and the vapidity of the feminine. And at that moment, she probably wished she was born a man

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This and bell hooks combined help us understand that young men are abused by both matriarchal women and patriarchal men

    Tyranny is disgusting in all its forms

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women literally can’t manipulate me. I’m a NEET with absolutely no money, no resources, no influence whatsoever. The only physical asset I have is my looks. Every time I’ve been in a relationship I’ve come out on top, while the women have been sucked dry due to my idleness and my not giving a shit. I warn them about it beforehand, but they still get charmed, and always get burned in the end.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Muh women in the workplace this women that
    Go learn a trade and you can avoid working with women for weeks minus the occasional going to the office situation and even there it's just a few interactions
    Stop being a soigay doing jobs women can do as well
    Doing a job women do too is terminally cucked beyond belief
    Kys

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I feel like the “muh learn a trade” crowd makes it really fricking obvious that they’re too low IQ to do anything else. We live in a service economy. The overwhelming majority of GDP isn’t generated by blue collar jobs anymore. You can weld your pipes all you want, it says nothing about the overarching societal problems. You don’t see women in these jobs, because they’re considered low status, not because women are incapable of doing them. Women are equally incapable of political and stem jobs, yet we have seen a massive increase of them in these fields in the last two-three decades. I have ample experience with this. They don’t end up with these positions, because they can do them. They end up there because they whine, cry, manipulate, and lie enough to secure themselves a cushy job. They then proceed to indolently sit on their asses and attack anyone who dares question their usefulness. What’s the result of this leniency? Our (service) economy is now a dead horse we keep beating. Resources are spread as thin as ever, despite nominal GDP rising. We have tons of deadweight in places of employment that doesn’t do shit but parasite off of others. Academia is a clown show now, even the more “male” fields like physics and mathematics. Company culture is now a kindergarten run by HR caretakers. Everything has turned into a massive welfare estate, where useful members of society are the chattel of lazy idiots. This is reminiscent of the 1980s Soviet Union. Do we want to experience something akin to the collapse of the USSR? I don’t think it would be good for anyone, even the “muh trade” homosexuals. The ship will sink and you will sink with it, regardless of what you chose to as your job.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She has a very nice voice.

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