what do you think let to the decline of relevance in philosophers in popular culture? You had Sartre and Foucault who were known by the common man in their contemporarh years while we have these charlatans in their place
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the why became a lot less important almost instantly, in the 60s when people were talking again
>what do you think let to the decline of relevance in philosophers in popular culture?
What makes someone like Peterson any less qualified a philosopher than Sartre? Older, famous philosophers use logic in a mathematical sense to come to conclusions. These new types use intuition to prescribe medicine for personal and societal problems.
>What makes someone like Peterson any less qualified a philosopher than Sartre?
the appearance here is a person who has a job in a time of crisis
Sartre and Foucault were known in France (one was shilled directly by the government). Not anywhere else except academics.
>Sartre
>Not known anywhere else
Absolute moron
Now he is. I'm talking about when they were as early as OP's pic. Just shut up and think for a second.
There was no Euro, Latin American or even African who was interested in literature that did not know about Sartre during his lifetime. He was read by everyone and their mother in a far a place like Argentina as early as the 70s, if not before. Sartre was never some literally who, he was always one of the better known literary figures of the 20th century.
I said academics in his lifetime. Acting like the common man read him is silly.
As opposed to… one of the randos in that photo? Plus you’re really underestimating the hold French culture still had over a big part of the world in the XXth century. It was not just academics or super knowledgeable people reading Sartre. It was just normal readers too. And when I say everyone and their mother was reading Sartre in a place like Argentina I’m just barely exaggerating.
>As opposed to… one of the randos in that photo?
Indeed. Those guys sparked discussion, for better or worse, from everyone from redneck boomers to shitposting teens to media celebrities to DC elites.
In America. Just like Sartre did the same in France, Europe and sometimes beyond. You overestimate the influence of those people outside your borders.
Fair enough. Although for some reason Jordan Peterson has a lot of reach. Even his French 12 Rules has like 800 reviews on Amazon.fr. And you got guys like Ronaldo falling on his sword for him. So it's not just US celebrities apparently.
Yeah that’s true Peterson is the exception. His book sold pretty well in the Hispanic world too I think. But I feel he’s less known as a public intellectual and more as a self-help guru of sorts.
the affluent and the well off stopped pretending to care
masturbation will revolve around the material when times are good
not so much in post war recovery
>implying matter is real
Democratization of authority means the dilution of expertise. Damn Sartre or praise him every member of the cognoscenti was expected to know about him because that was what their internecine modernist ramblings were about in the dying gasp of the mid-century west. Take that concept and apply it to all of the great names we still remember throughout history. Why do I know Plato? Because the Catholic church founded a lot of its theology on him. Why do I know Rosseau or John Locke? Because the American Fathers revered them to the point where it became part of the intellectual culture to know why our government is the way it is.
Now there's no real gatekeeping aside from popularity with the crowd which has no real staying power, meaning that the permanency of getting tenure living in the heads of circle leaders is no longer a viable path like it has been for the entirety of human civilization. Right now I can make a podcast or twitch stream and get the attentions of more people than made up most cities in the times of some philosophers we know by name, and I'm fighting against every other schmuck with broadband in doing so. With so much noise how can we expect any one person to get the bandwidth necessary to secure legacy?
Heidegger thought we were post-philosophical and Ellul and McLuhan thought it was the result of technology destroying our culture.
But to be fair, philosophy was never quite popular and anything popular has always been lesser. Name one thing today which is popular which is also of high quality other than a piece of technology. Name one person. There simply aren’t any.
america never had a culture of philosophy ya dweeb. americans never cared about philosophy. all the greatest philosophers have been European
>Sartre and Foucault who were known by the common man
Wut
The only philosopher in that picture is Rogan. The rest are just self help jack offs and political hacks.