What event in history makes you RAGE the hardest?
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Disraeli being elected
Collapse of the Byzantine Empire.
Not for me. Western Europe took over the world when they had to find new routes to Asia because of that collapse. Worked out fine for me
Rundown?
he a joo and therefore le bad
>Disraeli being elected
Wasn’t Disraeli a good PM, though?
the triumph of Popery over Orthodoxy
Orthodoxy is alive and well, Popery is on the decline.
You are utterly delusional. The Catholic church’s rate of growth is actually increasing, meanwhile Orthodoxy is slowing.
yeah increasing among simian shitskins and spics, ooooh what will we ever do without those animals in our flock?
Did you you call the slavs human ?
orthodoxy's neck is tied to the russian millstone
You should be more mad at Orthodoxy's own failure losing to Turks than being envious over the world reach of Catholicism, how pathetic you are.
ww1
It elicits more despair for me.
The Norman Conquest of England.
French Revolution probably since I've studied it.
Same. I just hate those powdered wig headed buttholes so much.
Muslims controlling parts of Europe
I for one support Islamic rule in Eastern Orthodox lands. Orthodoxy fared better under the Sultan than any Papist king.
Were you born stupid or did you have to work at it?
not an argument
"Better to rim the Turkish bull then to kneel before the Papal Tiera" - a wise Orthodox saying
Muhammad's birth
upvote
Islamic invasions and 1204
Germany losing WWII
When the IRA blew up about 1000 years of Irish historical records
Otherwise, destruction of historical records in general.
They did WHAT?!
>look it up
>it’s just some shitty myth
Expected of this board
>The IRA
I think the Free Staters shelling the fricking building probably had something to do with it, anon.
All of them, thats why I avoid history.
Define 'All of them.'
Checked and agree, at least I avoid modern history, i.e. the news: equal parts depression and infuriation.
Rise of the Rashidun Caliphate.
Turned the entire MENA from aestetic oriental fa/ to utter aestetic shit, so frickign boring thst no Golden Age may shallow the civilizational wound.
Arabs truly are the Germanics of the Middle East
>Arabs are the Germans of the Middle East
Holy fricking true take batshat
>Arabs truly are the Germanics of the Middle East
lele that's good
Nope. That would be Turks
This.
As an Arab, I must defend my people by saying that we literally made the Persians prosper more than they ever did by themselves; we even turned Baghdad into a powerhouse that is unrivaled by any city that they ever built during their entire existence. The same thing could be said of Europe with Cordoba; that continent hasn't been graced by such prosperity since the Romans fell and wouldn't for almost a millennium afterwards.
Also, the Rashidun were simply defending themselves preemptively; it was an innovative strategy of pre-defense to avoid the inevitability of being invaded by either the Romans or the Persians.
We are even the fairest slave-owning society; we dressed your ancestors in the most fine and expensive attire, and this is how you thank us?
He looks buck broken
> if only you kneyhk2y8w how bad things are
>we literally made the Persians prosper more than they ever did by themselves
cyrus the great would like a word with you.
Can't disprove it tho, you can't even name one city off the top of your head, even if you do, you can't stay it even competes with Baghdad and the amount of intellectuals it spawned. They literally fell from grace so hard after there was no more Arab presence, how do they have an iq average lower than Iraq when Iraq is destroyed after Saddam's regime fell.
>but muh aesthetics were le boring!1!!!1
What?
Brits looting the Ming Yongle Dictionary until it's irrecoverable
The Jurchens destroying the most prosperous dynasty China had
Communists taking over China and Russia leading to a break with the past and loss of organic high culture
The Manchus for mismanaging China for their benefit
The perfidious Japanese who bankrupted the Ming treasury
>The Jurchens destroying the most prosperous dynasty China had
Wu, Song, or Ming?
Song
Also frick huizong, useless bastard
The fact that Honorius ruled for thirty years when Majorian ruled for an eighth of that timeframe
Arab conquest of North Africa easily
>TFW no swarty romance-speaking christian waifu from Cartaghe
I blame the Vandals and Eastern Roman autism
>He thinks they were swarthy b4 iron-age african, moor and arab migrations
Eh man, northern Tunisia aside (which would probably end up not worse than southern italy), the rest seems like they'd be AT BEST south-balkan tier with the berber tribalism, like Christian albanian level if we're being generous. Plus with religious restriction on mediterranean slave trade they'd import more from the sahel.
Caesar too.
At this point, when they decided to import slaves to North America. What a fricking nightmare for us today
Me too. That was such a huge mistake on so many levels
jews
Gennadios Scholarios burning the manuscript of Gemistos Plethon's pagan magnum opus that he was entrusted with for being too pagan and heretic. Fricking christcucks.
the holocaust. such a fricking pain in the ass for everyone today. also the polacks deserve xbox hueg minorities more than anyone else does
IJN's methodical and severe frickups, sometimes straight up moronation, between 1920 and 1940.
maybe because I recently read Kaigun.
The absolute moron Henry Hotspur picking a fight before half his army arrived and ruining the chances of Northumbrian and Welsh independence.
The civil rights movement
Sack of Kaifeng 1127
The English and Dutch destroying nearly all their medieval art and sculpture in the 1500s. The French almost doing the same in the Revolution. Everything that was destroyed in the World Wars.
european socialists and boomers throwing away vvestern civilization
The current one
the south losing the american civil war. any answer to your question that happened after this can basically be attributed to it
If the Southerners were cooler-headed they could've stayed in the union and gotten the Corwin amendment passed, retaining slavery and tons of soft power within the union.
Probably this. Thank God for the reflexive property. They wanted to force their way, so they ended up getting the northern way forced on them
>They wanted to force their way, so they ended up getting the northern way forced on them
The yanks were the ones that always wanted to force their way of life upon the south. The south seceded from the union to get away from them.
Written like a true limeoid. The "southern project" was always a very poorly veiled attempted by the second British Empire to erode American sovereignty.
Yeah like the south forcing northern states to catch their Black folk for them, frick I hate when Confederate apologists go with the we dindu nuffin defense I see where the nogs get their bullshit from.
Both sides in the civil war were moronic. It should never have happened. But I blame the south more. They chimped out over owning le black slaves instead of shipping them to Liberia like Lincoln wanted to do. If anything the southerners can be blamed for everything bad that happened after
Black person, an independent CSA would have turned into an Anglo version of a 19th century LatAm republic and you know it. The war devastated Southern smallholders, so the planters would have bought up their lands to consolidate land ownership even further after the war. Britain would have made the CSA abolish slavery anyway in a few decades. So you would have ended up with a huge underclass of now-landless white laborers competing with newly emancipated blacks, and a highly dominant planter class with few real checks on its authority.
Im not even greek, but the fact that the turks just wiped out a whole civilization is fricked up, to think the region were on par with western europe before the eleventh century. Like damn you would be hard press to find a tragedy similar to the fate of this place.
Just think of it this way. At least turks were culturally sensitive enough to realize how valuable constantinople and greek civilization was. They saved it from western europe and made it one of the most prosperous cities in the world after a long period of decline.
There was really no way the byzantine empire couldve survived. It was a shell of its formal self, with constant bouts of civil war and verges of collapse.
Yeah.
The worst thing about the Byzantine empire was it was ruled by Byzantines.
>OH! our empire is in economic turmoil and just lost a decisive battle?
>TIME FOR USUPATION!
I blame the greekoid genetics.
That was an incredibly Roman attitude you fricking moron.
St Bartholomew's day massacre
Not christianizing the mongols.
Damn, there would be crusader hordes riding out of the solar system at this point.
>late bronze age collapse
shut the hell up, civilization collapses are peak history kino
Your in the process of one, kiddo
As an expert on civilization collapse (t. I live in one) it's actually pretty fricking gay and stupid
It was probably pretty metal. Ancient Fist of the North Star.
Yeah I don't rage at the collapse itself, I'm just buttblasted we don't know better than we do what happened. Because I bet you're right.
The bronze age collapse was driven by large interconnected empires suffering sudden drought/climate change, a breakdown of trade, and refugee/raiding movements as a result (sea peoples) - you may get to live through a modern day version of this if things go south.
The fall of the roman republic
Phocas
Phocas. Also Ricimer.
Prohibition of drugs in the modern era.
Just let the frickers waste themselves already and stop trying to prevent natural selection
they would rather have black markets
>Founding fathers not outlawing slavery
Imagine how much better off America would be
Bringing African slaves to America
Hey guys I know this didn't occur to you but eating an extra 1000 calories every single day since you turned 8 years old is a historical event that is driving most of the anger you feel ok hope this helps
Jokes on you, I've learned to cook for myself from scratch and am staying at ~1800 calories a day.
jokes on you i have an eating disorder
The burning of the library of Alexandria, the conclusion of the American Civil War and women being given the right to vote.
>The burning of the library of Alexandria
Reddit tier
Turkey being born or Germany being killed
Turkey saved Constantinople from becoming the shitfest that is modern Greece; granted, the heyday of the Ottomans is long gone, but at least you get to pray to the almighty one in the heart of orthodoxy's equivalent of the Vatican and feel proud to be a Muslim.
turks are greeks larping as arab mongols xd
Arab Mongols? Ironic since they hate the Arabs for kicking them out in WW1 and the Mongols are the reason their ancestors ran westwards to Anatolia.
turks hate islam and arabs idiot
>noooo dude the roads 🙁
>moors le bad even though they repaired the roman stuff snowBlack folk razed and were one of the big guys behind the islamic golden age
>habsburgs le good even though they just worked indians to death in mines and mismanaged their money and the empire reached its peak during the bourbon era
>even though they repaired the roman stuff snowBlack folk razed and were one of the big guys behind the islamic golden age
Proof?
Not being antagonistic, I just like reading up on Iberian history.
>The period of Arab rule also involved the extension of Roman irrigation channels as well as the introduction of novel irrigation techniques from the Persianate world, such as the acequia (deriving from the classical Arabic as-sāqiya) – subterranean channels used to transport water from highland aquifers to lowland fields in arid environments –first originating in either the Arabian Peninsula or the Persian Empire (referred to as qanat or karez in the Middle East).
>the Roman aqueduct network into the city of Cordoba was repaired in the Umayyad period, and extended.[20][21]
>Aqueducts that had been built by the Romans were maintained and improved under Muslim rule to carry water from mountain streams to the cities and fields where it was needed. Some aqueducts let out into dancing fountains that worked without electric pumps (of course), by carefully harnessing the powers of gravity and water pressure using narrow pipes. Norias, or huge wooden waterwheels, were also carried over from Roman times and improved upon. Some norias are still functioning today. Their purpose was to raise the level of water from the source into the canal system, and maintain this level. Irrigation of farmland was carried out through a system of ditches and gates called in Spanish acequia (Arabic al-saqiyyah, “to quench”), which spread to the New World with the Spanish, and is still used in the American southwest.
Beautiful to see this level of sophistication coexisting with the stark contrast that is the dark ages. What excuse did the europeans have for not utilising the Roman infrastructure and just building wooden villages over them?
because they had nothing to motivate them to do it, they were happy with the life they had
I thought the excuse was that it was simply too cold. I'm not even being sarcastic; it's the most popular observation that I've been seeing; I think even Hitler said it once.
Yes, it's amusing to watch your own kings hand over their valuables to court israelites while forbidding any Christian from lending money because the Catholic Church has your kingdom by the balls. This israelitery began when Charlamagne granted the israelites their own princedom and control over the finances of the Holy ~~*Roman*~~ Empire.Their entire identity was larping and hiding their barbaric past; they chose Latin and a Middle Eastern religion because they knew the local alternative would be phlegm-producing Germanic languages and paganism.
Even your greatest conqueror since Alexander and Caesar was a Corsican rebel who transformed the Francoid States into a true empire.
I know they were a major center during the Islamic golden age, but I never heard about them repairing roman infrastructure that was neglected by the native Iberians.
le good even though they just worked indians to death in mines and mismanaged their money and the empire reached its peak during the bourbon era
Charles V was actually quite sympathetic to the native plight either for practical or moral reasons, if not both. His policies were met with resistance on the ground, however, in a land on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean from his capital.
>Vocal advocates of reform, most notably Bartolomé de las Casas, persuaded many in Spain that the abuses suffered by Amerindians at the hands of Spanish colonists were unacceptable on moral and religious grounds. Worried by the catastrophic decline of native American populations, and faced with growing opposition to Spanish mistreatment of Amerindians, Emperor Charles V passed a series of laws in the 1540s known collectively as the “New Laws of the Indies for the Good Treatment and Preservation of the Indians,” or just the “New Laws.” Among the first royal decrees issued in 1542 was the abolition of Amerindian slavery. Furthermore, Amerindians were no longer required to work without pay, and Spanish colonists’ children could no longer inherit encomiendas. These changes were met with heavy resistance from colonists in Mexico and Peru, where some colonists possessed vast encomiendas resembling small kingdoms and because of their complaints, some of the New Laws were only partially enforced in these colonies, and some traditional practices were partially reinstated.
Source: https://ldhi.library.cofc.edu/exhibits/show/african_laborers_for_a_new_emp/the_spanish_and_new_world_slav
I'm already aware about that stuff, but ultimately since not much happened well... good for the kings pr, but the indians stayed the same so.
I'll check it out, thanks. From what I'm reading it's about the myth of religious tolerance in al Andalus which I'm aware of. Don't know much about visigothic spain however
>I'll check it out, thanks. From what I'm reading it's about the myth of religious tolerance in al Andalus which I'm aware of. Don't know much about visigothic spain however
It also touches upon the blossoming Visigothic culture, with many features of such being assimilated by the Ummayads such as in the case and usage of Roman Baths, prior to the invasion and the use of atrocities by Spain's occupiers to keep the native peoples under heel rather than pacifying them through postmodernist egalitarianism as many would want the average person to believe.
It's a very entertaining and captivating book, at the very least, as well.
>I'm already aware about that stuff, but ultimately since not much happened well... good for the kings pr, but the indians stayed the same so.
That is indeed true but I think Charles' intentions, at the very least, contradict the notion that the Habsburgs were the Antichrist
well not all of them were the same. Wasn't it also a habsburg (I think the inbred moron one) that outlawed stuff written in nahuatl?
Well, of course, the intentions of one ruler aren't destined to mirror their descendants. My original post was dedicated to defending Charles V, himself, however.
Now, I'm not sure which Habsburg you're referring to given how many of them were inbred. If it was the super inbred Charles II, that guy was almost entirely under the sway of his advisors as he couldn't so much as really rule on his own. Contemporaries thought it a miracle he survived past infancy, after all.
> En 1696, Carlos II de España, el último de los Habsburgo en gobernar España, prohibió el uso de cualquier idioma que no fuera el español en todo el imperio.
yup it was him.
>Carlos II de España
Well, there we go. If I'm not mistaken, the guy could've even eat unaided which makes me suspicious that ideology had any dominant role over his decision-making. His decision, pressed by his advisors, to sign away the throne of Spain to the French, after all, would lead to a massive war that should have been obvious to any sane ruler who cared to not make his nation a battleground.
Now, you could critique past Habsburgs for their treatment of the Moriscos but it wasn't uncommon at the time for Monarchs to expel potential dissidents. Look how many Hugenoughts migrated from Spain to the lands of Brandenburg and other such states following the Edict of Fontainebleau
>Now, you could critique past Habsburgs for their treatment of the Moriscos but it wasn't uncommon at the time for Monarchs to expel potential dissidents. Look how many Hugenoughts migrated from Spain to the lands of Brandenburg and other such states following the Edict of Fontainebleau
*migrated from FRANCE, not Spain (my bad)
i'd like to see anyone try to enforce any rules in a frontier land when it takes 3 months to go there and everyone is doing what they please with unlimited power
le bad even though they repaired the roman stuff snowBlack folk razed and were one of the big guys behind the islamic golden age
Read "The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise." Visigothic Spain had a thriving culture which was killed in its infancy.
>Read "The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise." Visigothic Spain had a thriving culture which was killed in its infancy.
no sounds like the author has a stick up his ass
>Visigothic Spain
sorry to break it to you but the Goths remained apart of the ruling class
>no sounds like the author has a stick up his ass
>WAAAAH!!! THE BOOK'S TITLE HURTS MY FEELINGS!!! I AM THEREFORE JUSTIFIED TO DISMISS ITS CONTENT AND CITATIONS FOR ANYTHING THAT THREATENS MY WORLDVIEW MUST BE PURGED! ALLAH AKBAR!
>immediately starts seething
I rest my case. This shit is the equivalent of the dumb christian dark ages books. Completely worthless polemics and a complete waste of time
>This shit is the equivalent of the dumb christian dark ages books.
Except there's a very real discourse of romanticization concerning al-andalus (especially in the anglosphere) that presents a vision of history that never actually existed and which distorts historical facts for the sake of furthering a political agenda.
>Except there's a very real discourse of romanticization concerning al-andalus (especially in the anglosphere) that presents a vision of history that never actually existed and which distorts historical facts for the sake of furthering a political agenda.
see this is why you're moronic. Literally everything is romanticized. You're just butthurt that some people do it with al andalus. Romaboos, Byzaboos, etc, etc. all the same shit.
why are you such a gay? guy posts an actual source in this shithole of a board and you get angry at him?
are you a muzzie?
I'm not angry at all? You and the other guy are the angry ones
One such definition of projection happens to be: "the unconscious transfer of one's own desires or emotions to another person."
Why would you assume he's mad? He's only dismissed a book because he thinks the author is bias without even reading it. There is no better form of literary analysis out there - making our resident genius the god of historiography. We should bow before his enlightenment.
You're challenging my fragile world view. For that, you've made an enemy for life. Should I remind you that the enlightened Moors taught Europeans how to bathe? There were never any Roman bathhouses. There were only Moorish bathhouses.
and then you claim you're not seething
I'm not seething. There's no reason to get angry at a lost cause, after all. There's every reason to draw enjoyment from such a circumstance, however.
I'm chuckling at your refusal to read a book because its title hurts your feelings, personifying you as a lost cause.
>introduction spent complaining about people who say Iberia instead of Spain
You just held off the 2008 financial disaster
Your current inflation under the watermelon seller is going to doom you
i suppose with germany being killed you refer to the fall of the 3rd reich? well im sorry to say that hitler almost copied his reforms and actions after ataturk. cope
Jesus being remembered
Opium wars. Started the slippery slope that turned China from the benchmark of East Asian civilization to an over-glorified Amazon fulfillment center. And the Anglos still have the gall to say that they were the good guys because 'muh free trade!'.
Do you really think they would have the dominant economic position they have now if they didn't go full on commie-hivemind-oligarchy? They have America by the balls.
>my entire civilization was toppled by half a dozen anglo merchants
sure, selling narcotics is.. le bad, but come on
It was actually indians who wages the opium wars. Brits never fought
>Wikiniggia
Go back in time and show me the proof homosexual
Thats like saying Franz Ferdinand toppled the german, austrian, ottoman and russian emoires
The Anglos were the good guys because Frick China
Ottoman Empire. Its existence.
19th amendment being passed
Regan being elected
Second Italo-Ethiopian War.
AustroBlack person chimpout of 1914
>lake poopoo
>lake titty poop
wtf is wrong with sudamericanos?
(Deep history) The Toba supervolcano (c.75k y.a.), because it didn't quite succeed in wiping humans off the face of the earth.
I'd say Out of Africa migration since it spread humans across the planet.
The moors taking over Spain
I'd like to think it had a net positive it bringing about the emergence of the Reconquista which would serve as the Kingdom of Spain's founding myth.
>created Spain, and by extension Latin America
Even worse.
>t. Spaniard
Elizabeth the First not just getting married and having kids. I'm tired of pretending like she was so cool and epic for being a long queen. All the bullshit that followed was because of that.
Or Henry the 8th not just legitimising his least moronic male bastard (if he can make the CoE, he surely could have done that) and skipping the entire heir problem
>Elizabeth the First
Classic tale of dumb girlboss thinking shes a man and causing problems for everyone because marriage and kids are le bad.
>Henry the 8th
This. Dumbass broke from the Catholic church just to smash that prostitute Anne Boleyn. Then was fine enforcing his reign with mass executions. But oh no, a bastard son, that's too unorthodox for me. Fat moron
Incans were heavily unlucky tho. As centralized and quick to adapt they were, they could have westernized pretty quickly and expelling the conquistadors if they were united.
Chance just lead the spanish in the best possible moment, during a civil war.
Six-Day War
America becoming a country.
My ancestors came to America during the potato famine and after the 1848 revolutions
The worse wars my family fought were WW1 and 2nd Gulf War, every other war could be considered righteous (Pro-Union Civil War, WW2,1st Gulf War)
My family never killed native americans and only moved to cities and farmland that were already emptied of them
I feel the natives would gotten a better deal with the french or british, but america is my home and the only way I'd abandon it is if we colonize earthlike exoplanets
If a native gets angry at me for being here I understand but frick you this has been my family's home
Imagine a Turk who migrated from Siberia to Anatolia right after the Greek/Kurd/Armenian genocides, are they not considered native to the land they were born on and their father/grandfather/greatgrandfather?
The american government/corporations of neoliberalism must burn not only in this life but the next, not just for americans but humanity's sake
The Franco-Turkish Alliance, notably during the days of Francis I and Sultan Suleyman. Such an alliance led to the destruction of the Hungarian Kingdom and prevented Charles V from being able to turn his might against the Turks so long as France proved his most immediate threat in initiating the Italian Wars.
Prussia's survival under Frederick the Great due to the Miracle of the House of Brandenburg and the death of Tsarina Ekaterina which led her Prussophile successor to side with Frederick to the detriment of the Russo-Austrian Alliance which was on the verge of bringing Prussia to its heels with with could have enriched both states.
The Collapse of the Crusader States, with Philip Augustus' retreat from the Holy Land serving to deeply inhibit Richard the Lionheart from being able to crush the Ayyubid power
Freddy II's satisfaction to win a political victory in his personally-led Sixth Crusade without any care for the continued survival of the Christian Levant also saddens me.
The Fall of Habsburg Mexico, even though its Habsburg Emperor seemed to have better intentions for his newfound people than most Mexican leaders throughout the totality of history.
The Battle of Manzikert's aftermath with the ERE consenting to have its forts garrisoned by Turks amidst a period of civil war leading to the loss of Anatolia. Similar practices led to the Turks establishing a powerbase in Gallipoli in the 14th Century.
The immaturity of the French and how such attitudes led to the fall of Candia and the failure of the Crusade of Nicopolis. We can even look back to Agincourt, Crecy, and Poiters.
The failure of Charles V and Phillip II to establish any form of universal monarchy which was inhibited by the Franco-Ottoman Alliance alongside Spain's other foes.
The failure to establish a Polish-Swedish Union under the House of Vasa and the decline of Sweden following the Great Northern War still stings.
so in short, we're in the worst timeline because of the French and the Turks
typical.
The subversion of Rome to worship a dead carpenter that they supposedly killed.
The bad guys winning World War II.
Bhutans ethnic cleansing against its Nepalese minority population
Fall of Baghdad, not even because of Hulagu, he did what his ancestors did, it's the frick ups that the caliph made by underestimating the ability of the Mongols to siege Baghdad and not mobilizing muslims from other nations, he just rushed a sloppy defence when it was too late against around 150,000 Mongols. It was one of, if not the biggest amount of soldiers mobilized in one time by the Mongols, and for whatever reason they decided to burn down all that knowledge and so much progress they could have taken advantage of, it even pissed off Berke Khan who was muslim, absolute idiocy on both sides.
Battle of the Yarmuk
Battle of Heliopolis
Battle of Manzikert
Crusader sack of Constantinople
Battle of Pelekanon
Fall of Constantinople
awww ;(
Frederick Barbarossa dying on route to the Third Crusade was also a grand tragedy as was Isaac Angelos' alliance with Saladin which worked to delay to the Holy Roman Emperor from liberating the Holy Land.
Don't forget the Battle of Myriokephalon or the early end of Emperor Manuel's campaigns into the Middle East which could have reinforced the longevity the Crusader States while improving better relations between the Greeks and Latins, at the same time. Manuel's failure to partition Egypt between the Byzantine Empire and Kingdom of Jerusalem was also saddening as it could've prevented the unification of Syria and Egypt which empowered the Ayubbid state to a level beyond comprehension.
fall of rome to these barbarians.
Proto-Indo-European expansion and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
The Fall.
The genocide of hunter gatherers done by Steppe people.
The genocide of neanderthals
The extreme storms during the day of the Armada Invencible disaster. If there was normal weather England would be catholic and speak Spanish today and the USA would be a lot more different
Irish Civil War.
>history
whatever
>pre-history
the replacement of the WHG aesthetics by farmBlack person twinks and their bug eyed, weak jawed women who looked like Kate Micucci but more swarthy and couldn't get enough of WHG wiener given the spread of I2a
The disappearance of Ancient Hellas due to R*me and the crossjews.
And no don’t give me the Greek speaking R*moid-Anatolian empire either.
Fricking this. Some of those poleis existed longer than France
If only Philip V (the beloved of all Helenes) or Perseus BTFO'd Rome....
Women getting the vote
Hadrian not finishing the job.
Cicero failing to stop the triumvirate
>"The Senate was my weapon and it was shattered in my hand"
my birth
Being colonized, or a more cucked version, being colonized by the fricking dutch, top 1 worst colonizer besides Belgium i swear to God.
What was so bad about the Dutch?
China; political, commercial, and social; an official report
by Robert Montgomery Martin
Not so much an event but I get extremely sad whenever I think about all of those Roman texts that are lost to history.
Our knowledge of the great civilisation of Europe would be even greater if we had access to them. It makes me so very sad to deliberate on all that history which is lost to us.
I feel the same way. The fact none of Claudius's works are known to have survived to the present in particular gets me.
Same goes for the loss of texts from other civilizations and peoples. In particular another instance that really makes me sad is how only 4 books from the Maya are known to survive. They had paper and book technology for around a millennia before the Spanish arrived and had recorded their history going back centuries at least. Yet only 4 are left, its honestly depressing to think about.
DPKXXX
Is it possible well ever find some more?
I think it’s possible and my hope is we do even if it might be unlikely. The books were the primary written record for the Maya and most likely recorded diverse topics, including their apparently long recorded history. Luckily other written records do survive in the form of inscriptions on things like monuments and painted ceramics but their subject matter is most likely way more limited compared to the topics recorded in the books.
Most of the Mayan books were destroyed by the conquistadors and Catholic priests. According to a bishop involved with their destruction the belief was "they contained nothing in which were not to be seen as superstition and lies of the devil." As such the books were destroyed with the motivation of protecting the Mayans regarding their conversion to Christianity as the books could draw them away and be detrimental to their faith and salvation. The Spanish likely didn’t realize (or possibly disregarded) that the texts were not just about Mayan religion and mythology, but covered other topics like history and astronomy.
Seeing as we only have 4 out of probably many thousands written, it unfortunately seems like the Spanish were pretty thorough. Still my hope is in some cave or ruin somewhere there are some which survived.
American Revolution
t. yank
I wonder what would have happened it we never had the enlightenment and the french revolution.
After reading into it I kinda doubt these were good developments. But what do I know, maybe the world would have been worse if I
it wasn't for that.
On the other hand I see no downside to the cultural revolution in china never happening.
Probably a less liberal world but we'd have none of the depravity of the far-right/far-left. Or, they would have developed slower and thus later on than they actually did.
1996 Russian presidential election
When jerusalem pd cought jesus
The present moment.
The abolition of the Ottoman Caliphate and the failure of the Hashemite dynasty to subdue the Saudis. The Mongolian invasions were pretty bad everywhere but the Song dynasty especially didn't deserve all that.
Mongol sack of Baghdad
Imagine Islam if Ali ibn Abu Talib didn't exist and undermine with his existence.
the following barbarian takeovers of china:
mongols
manchu
communists
>communists
The Siege of Changchun literally reminds me of the Siege of Alesai as it pertains to the treatment of civilians and the refusal to allow them past enemy lines after the city's defenders evicted them from the city, itself, which led to mass starvation on their part.
None, everything that happened in history was fated to happen.
Frick of predeterminist homosexual
Timur's atrocities, as well as those of his allies, are also heartbreaking. I'd wager Timur is easily one of cruelest individuals to ever exist as such. Although, his act of keeping Bayezid in a cuck cage always makes me chuckle.
His constant invasions of Georgia were particularly cruel. Speaking of Georgia, Jalal al-Din's own attempt to conquer the nation and force its inhabitants to convert to Islam under threat of death was also quite tragic.
Yeah Timur sends a chill down my spine man. War and conquest are savage in general but he seems to have delighted in it to an unusual extent. Makes him fun to read about though.
Oh, he's certainly a fascinating figure. There should be a movie or TV Series documenting his life but I'm not sure modern western media is ready to embrace a truly villainous protagonist without going above and beyond to humanize him.
What about Assurbanipal?
I mean there's also Baibars, Zengi, and other such figures worthy of further attention in modern media.
>I mean there's also Baibars, Zengi
butthurt christcuck alert
No need to be butthurt when based General Gouraud kicked Saladin's tomb in its proverbial balls.
>Similarly, it has not forgotten either the content or the tone of the statements made by French General Henri Gouraud when he entered Damascus in July 1920. Striding to Saladin's tomb next to the Grand Mosque, Gouraud kicked it and exclaimed, "Awake Saladin, we have returned. My presence here consecrates the victory of the Cross over the Crescent."
>Reality reflects that it's the star of david that triumphs of the secular eurostates
>survived God knows how long at the bottom of a lake before burning to a crisp just a few years after being excavated
Frick the Americans and frick the Nazis.
Every time the israelites were expelled from a country. Antisemitism makes me absolutely sperg every time bros.
Don't remember witch crusade, not bout to search it up, but every crusade after the worst was a faliure, one crusade was called against the byzantine empire to change emperor to a one of the popes liking ( chattolic and not ortodox ) this made so that the byzantine empire lost most of his vassals, making it weak , making so that muslims could eat up land gradually, this eventually lead to the conquest of costantinople( istambul ) by muslims, witch will become the ottomans and will be partly be responsable for ww1.
I'd say that was probably the biggest fail of christianity in history.
after the *first ( not worst )
The failures of Saint Louis' Crusades are also heartbreaking.
It wasn't so much that the Byzantine price was being installed on behalf of the Pope's wishes. Rather, he was being installed to make good on repaying the Crusaders' debts which had been accumulated due to overestimating the amount of Crusaders who would find themselves in need of utilizing the fleet build by Venetian gold and manpower. Another real shame that sprouted from the situation was that a banished prince of the Seljuk Sultanate was ready to convert to Catholicism if the Crusaders would help him also reconquer his throne - something he eventually did on his lonesome.
>The failures of Saint Louis' Crusades are also heartbreaking.
Baibars' whole run of brutalizing the Europeans makes my dick hard
The failure of Emperor Tzimiskes to take Jerusalem, assuming it was possible, also saddens me.
I'm also saddened Tancred isn't renowned as he should be for establishing Antioch as a state of longevity while Bohemond never stopped lusting after Byzantine possessions in the Balkans to the point he organized a crusade against them rather than the Turks threatening his Principality.
2016 when Americans became swayed by the lies of a racist demagogue reality TV host
try again in 2041
Gr8 b8 m8
Test
WW1: just how moronic it was. Kids forced into the trenches to rot and get gassed and shellshocked, coming home without a limb(s) and permanent moronation from PTSD all because of national enmity, entanglement, and imperial interests. The Christmas truce...
Then that being the groundwork for WW2 and everything that happened within that era...
Everything since 2014 pisses me off too.
Mary having a affair, with another man, before coming to Bethlehem
> be medievel peasant
> See witch
> burn her alive
> never use the magic for self benefit
How moronic
> be medievel peasant
> See witch
> run to tell priest
> priest tells me I have been deceived by the devil and if I burn the witch I shall be executed
*
They had cunning folk to do white magic for them.
Ricimer’s betrayal.
>What event in history makes you RAGE the hardest?
Kaiser Wilhelm the 2nd dismissing Otto von Bismarck.
Brexit.
>On 8 October 1912, during the First Balkan War, Lemnos became part of Greece. The Greek navy under Rear Admiral Pavios Kountouriotis took it over without any casualties from the occupying Turkish Ottoman garrison, who were returned to Anatolia. Peter Charanis, born on the island in 1908 and later a professor of Byzantine history at Rutgers University recounts when the island was occupied and Greek soldiers were sent to the villages and stationed themselves in the public squares. Some of the children ran to see what Greek soldiers looked like. "What are you looking at?" one of them asked. "At Hellenes," the children replied. "Are you not Hellenes yourselves?" a soldier retorted. "No, we are Romans." Thus was the most ancient national identity in all of history, preserved in isolation, finally absorbed and ended.
Auto de Mani and other destruction of America's civilization. There are many Maya codices we cant deciphee because they killed everyone who could translate them, the only part of their culture that was preserved was thanks to some nobles that translated their creation myths into the Latin Alphabet. Most of the survivors were enslaved or exterminated. Today they live in shit conditions today with most of their traditions and history being destroyed. Its like they live in a post apocalypse
WW1
The destruction of the Ghana Empire thanks to B*rbers, Amazingh, or whatever fricking desert tribals were responsible
Sack of Constantinople by crusades
Sack of the Aztec capital and it's complete destruction
Fall of the incan empire
Constantine winning the civil war
European conquest of the Americas and Australia
Some other events that piss me off are:
Honorius's reign
Bolsheviks winning the Russian Civil war
Intentional destruction of written records, art, cultural artifacts, architecture, etc. (accidental/unintentional cases as well, but intentional acts of destruction like book burnings are worse)
Overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii
The conquistadors conquering the Aztec and Incan Empires
Assassination of Aurelian
The Soviets diverting the source rivers of the Aral Sea causing it to dry up
Invention of Styrofoam
This last thing isn't really an event rather a cultural practice, but Chinese traditional medicine really pisses me off for various reasons. First is the destruction of fossils and the involvement in the bone trade to source said fossils. Another thing is TCM being a major driving factor behind unsustainable harvesting and poaching of endangered animal species like tigers, pangolins, seahorses, and rhinos. Further, the practice is directly responsible for mass animal abuse in the case of bear bile factory farming.
>Bolsheviks winning the Russian Civil war
>Assassination of Aurelian
Yeah, these two are particularly rough in my opinion.
None of it, the best man won in literally every war/conflict/election/disagreement/misunderstanding ever. Stay mad.
The fate of Louis XVII.
this story brings a tear to my eye. Another example of why I hate people tbh, wtf is wrong with humans
If he truly replied "I'd forgive you" to his abuser asking what revenge he'd enact on him if he regained power at least allowed that poor child to score a titanic moral victory over his torturer.
He would've turned into an butthole when he grew up like all other royals, so whatever.
I think you're rationalising sadism if you're inclined to support the torture murder of a child for future hypothetical crimes.
Charles XII's eventual defeat and death in the midst Great Northern War.
the birth of muhammad
Not really a historical event, but people like Heinrich Schleimann who excavated artefacts using explosives, and the treatment of Egyptian Mummies (e.g. being used for paint) really angers me.
Treaty of versaille
seething germoid
Alexander's early death
Turkroaches pushing into Europe. I'm not even Greek/Balkan but it's just disgusting to think about them owning a slice of Europe.
Hon hon hon!
Burning of the Mayan texts
The destruction of Carthage and the broader Punic empire. A successful Punic maritime empire allowed for Near Eastern pagan traditions to subsist and spread on a relatively large scale, thereby hindering the development of offshoot religions like Christianity and Islam (via offering alternative cultural and religious centers for semites to flock to). The specific varieties of paganism and idolatry that the Bible and Qur'an rail against, could be found alive and well in Carthage and other major Punic settlements. It is attested to by the historical record that israeli travellers blended in quite well with their Canaanite brothers in Carthage (same language, dress, food, aesthetics etc...), and many happily settled there to become assimilated. With a Carthaginian victory over Rome, the world would never have become so dominated by state-sponsored monotheism.
outcome of ww1
outcome of ww2
Rise of Islam
Collapse of Austria-Hungary
seethe kaffir
My life being ruined by lying scum
The bad guys winning the first world war 🙁
Lenin's stroke
The invention of circumcision
The Dutch Revolt
Cope and seethe
Don't you have a Prime Minister & War Hero to mutilate and cannibalize alongside his brother?
That Mussolini didnt inmediately declare war against the germs when they killed dolfuss, homosexual could have prevented both WWII and the collapse of fascism, true fascism btw, not the schizo racialist nazism.
The sale of the territory of Louisiana. Yes, I am french.
1453
My life being destroyed by lying degenerate scum