What is it about Barbarossa that feels so kino?
It's like everything in history happened as a build-up towards it and nothing before or since even matters anymore.
It's like 2 autisms clashed and the result is absolutely spectacular.
It's the closest we ever got to a real apocalypse and it probably seemed that way to witnesses.
>It's the closest we ever got to a real apocalypse and it probably seemed that way to witnesses.
This is why, it’s just all out brutality on a massive scale. Two gigantic armies facing off in a no holds barred battle to the death with no one spared. Not just that the SS/Wehrmacht and Red Army were pure soul.
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I think it’s just the way history is taught and viewed. WW2 is the most important event in recent history and the invasion of the Soviet Union is one of the most important part of the war. I’ve even seen some people refer to it as WW2s main front. So history pre ww2, is viewed as just buildup to it, and it’s defining event. That’s my theory at least
>I’ve even seen some people refer to it as WW2s main front.
This is objectively true
>I’ve even seen some people refer to it as WW2s main front.
Uh, obviously? The largest battles in human history were battles of that front.
>Kursk-Prokhorovka
>Stalingrad
>Rzhev
>Dnieper '43
>Leningrad
Mutts are brainwashed to think the small skirmishes in the West somehow mattered.
It goes both ways, in Russian education the Second World War starts in 1941
For once because something like that is rare.
Huge industrial nations rarely fight each other to the death (because it is moronic). Except Barbarossa the only other case is France and Germany in WW1.
For that shit two literally BOTH have to be ruled by a ruthless, totalitarian dictatorship with absolute control and support, which of course is very rare.
Ahem…Iran/Iraq war
Which is also very kino.
He said rare, not unheard of
not really that industrial where they?
>What is it about Barbarossa that feels so kino?
The sheer scale, the depths of human depravity, and the mutual genuine desire of both sides to completely annihilate the other is unlike any war that has come before or since. It was a true clash of the titans where the winner would take all and the loser would have all taken. The Eastern Front represented the culmination of a milennia of souring East-West relations dating back the Great Schism of 1054, even more so than the Cold War which had the potential to be even bigger, but was staved off in part because of sobering lessons learned on the vast Russian steppe from 1941 to 1945.
Because it was a clash of the races, history books just don't call it that way for obvious reasons.
Slavs are extremely different from Westoids, but of course mutts and non-whites can't tell the difference.
Except neither side thought they were a distinct race. Hitler in MK even says they weren't a race.
The Soviet Union was multi-racial moron
>That israelite
Based artist
Slavoids ruin the European genepool and needed to go.
Hitler attacked the Soviet Union because he wanted a stronger base to face the British and American empires and because he needed resources that he had no other way of getting (together with internal pressures and the fact that the rapid USSR military improvement would make waiting another year extremely dangerous). Painting it as a racial deathmatch is just the propaganda needed to get the masses to accept it, the same applies to Stalin and the capitalist menace.
It was the explosive end of the old-style European colonialism with Germany, having been wienerblocked by Britain and fearing the rise of the United States, turned the imperial land- and resource-grabbing to Eastern Europe. In this sense, the USSR was like a "third world" country and I think the impact of the 1917 revolution was greater in colonized and semi-colonized countries.
The USSR was very centralized of course but I think the initial idea at least was to create a socialist version of the European Union or something with various republics including Central Asian republics.
I don't know much about anti-Slavism in Europe, but here in the U.S., the media likes to present Russia as a Mordor-like place. I like to listen to music from around the world, and I showed my mother this video one time and she was kinda surprised by it:
She didn't say why, and I didn't ask her, but she gets her news about the world from CNN and MSNBC and she's a "good" middle-class liberal who votes for Democrats, but a lot of these "good" liberals in the U.S. have views about other countries that are not very different from right-wing ultranationalists. She's not a bad person, and she's my mother, but people are heavily propagandized to, so I try to challenge that in little ways. But of course, that video of those Russian musicians is a very "nice" image compared to the middle-class liberals like my mother. I like this guy, too:
I don't speak Russian but he makes comedy music videos, and some of his other videos will also talk about Western stereotypes of Russians and so forth. I like ordinary people like that.
>Painting it as a racial deathmatch is just the propaganda needed to get the masses to accept it
I'd be more willing to believe this if Hitler didn't spend the last 2 years of the war autisticly killing every israelite he could get his hands on
Because it was Western civilization's final attempt to quell the steppe barbarians once and for all.
It failed. Civilized people will forever have to live in fear of the hordes from the East
The West literally fought Hitler, you're not making any sense.
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I like it, i've got Operation Barbarossa and Germany's Defeat in the East by david stahel and glantz's Barbarossa Derailed on my reading list
Iran-Iraq war was close to Barbarossa but much smaller scale.
Wars that are just as brutal as Barbarossa are usually against natives and the natives only manage to win some battles at best.
because it was recent, so its well documented
the most underrated historical war kino is 30 years war
the biggest spergout in history
What is that moronic map
>What is it about Barbarossa that feels so kino?
You are a manchild that enjoys playing war in your imagination
It represents how far the bourgeoisie will go to crush communism. But their efforts are in vain. World Bolshevism will defeat the world bourgeoisie.
Stalin himself was doing a pretty good job of crushing communist expansion outside of the USSR