US was recently colonized meaning its small initial settler population set the standard of speech. meanwhile england has a population that has been there for millenia, thus in the fuedal era when mass media didnt screw around with regional dialects local accents developed.
US was recently colonized meaning its small initial settler population set the standard of speech. meanwhile england has a population that has been there for millenia, thus in the fuedal era when mass media didnt screw around with regional dialects local accents developed.
It was clearly a map made by someone from England, so every county in England gets its own accent, they painted random accent lines through Northern Ireland because they don’t want to get bombed, Scotland is laughably “posh Scottish”, rural Scottish”, and “Glasgow”, wales has been split the same way, and The Republic is just “Dublin” and “rural Irish”. Completely England centric map.
>random accent lines through Northern Ireland because they don’t want to get bombed
It roughly maps to the areas primarily planted by Scots, like the north-eastern blob in Antrim is definitely where you'd find most speakers of the ulster-scots language/dialect/whatever, and the little Ballycastle catholic enclave in the far north-east is definitely a thing.
I do appreciate that they marked out Belfast as its own accent, but honestly the Derry accent is even more distinct (and somehow more grating)
t. maternal family are Londonderry Prods
>the Derry accent is even more distinct (and somehow more grating)
frick you
2 years ago
Anonymous
>t. maternal family are Londonderry Prods >Belfast folk said I have a "wile Derry Twang" about me
I say it from a place of love
To cleanse myself I'll get in my kyar to go spend an arr in the parr sharr
2 years ago
Anonymous
haha apology accepted
2 years ago
Anonymous
What's your skin in this dumb game anon?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm from derry and I'm sensitive about it, particularly the accent because deep down I know it's not perfect. Catholic-Protestant mutt btw. It was nice talking to you anyway.
Most people don't move very much in the course of their lives
>Has four countries in it
Though I always think it's funny, the density is nearly entirely from England alone.
IIRC if you take "Northern Europe" to be Iceland, Britain, Ireland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania (which is a pretty generous definition imo), most of Northern Europe lives in England.
That's a quite small area to live in. I like living in Wisconsin because it's so private and only 10k people live in my area. Probably nice in areas outside of England. I just couldn't think of a good reason to be around millions of people (which people do in America as well in our densely packed cities like New York)
Yeah, I went Rural NI > Belfast > Edinburgh and honestly I don't think I'd want to live in a city much bigger than that. London is Babylon-on-Thames as far as I'm concerned. Dublin is Babylon-on-Liffey.
That said have been thinking about maybe moving to Madrid though, so I guess I'm a big hypocrite
>of a good reason to be around millions of people
I think it does depend on the city a bit, like if I had to live in a Megacity I'd pick somewhere like Tokyo over London any day.
Better to have a shoebox to yourself than having to share a slightly bigger shoebox with three other people.
The thing I really like about Edinburgh and Glasgow's Victorian tenement buildings is that despite being dense blocks of flats, they're A. quite pretty and B. have very thick walls. I occasionally hear people on the stairwell through the front door, but never from any of the adjacent flats, which is very nice.
>Wisconsin
have a lovely and slightly insane Wisconisite Boomer as a remote co-worker, I have never heard someone say so many consecutive words about ice-cream in my life. 10/10 will never forget that an ice-cream parlour is directly responsible for The Fonz
2 years ago
Anonymous
I've been to Edinburgh and it's a lovely city. I'd be interested in living in Tokyo for a time only because I am an autist who likes anime. I have also been to London and I found it grimy for a European city and super densely populated and uncomfortable just to stay in. I think that has more to do with me, some people like that.
It's funny you mention ice cream because my grandpa owned an ice cream parlor and was quite the ice cream / custard ice cream enjoyer. I only criticized Britain out of my memories of my trip to the UK from 2012. It really is quite lovely when there aren't too many people around, though I liked northern Scotland best because of the mountains and the small towns where no one really bothered you
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I'd be interested in living in Tokyo for a time only because I am an autist who likes anime
Finding out the average Japanese household has more square-footage per person than the average British household was a real blackpill ngl. I also think Japan seems to have a good balance of "this is a region of natural beauty" and "this is a Cyberpunk Megacity", whereas Britain is just a terrible middle-ground of low-medium density in most "built-up" places. Britain is in a worse position today because London didn't have a Haussmann
Unironically we should just flatten terraced houses and build Scottish-style Tenements in their place across the country. Having lived in both the latter and a terraced house that was converted into flats, Tenements are superior in every way. Build one with modern techniques like "double glazing" and you have the apex city dwelling
>custard ice cream enjoyer
Ye Gods, the speech about why "frozen custard" is a different thing from "ice-cream" is a half-hour of my life that I'm not getting back. Still love yous dairy boys, I hear you've got the best cheddar in the US?
Because English is from the UK. It is typical for the homeland of a language to have greater dialectal variation than in foreign lands where the language has spread.
Places that were speaking Gaelic recently do share a particular sound and I can see the logic in lumping them together if you're making a lumpy accent map, though Inverness obviously tends towards a more generic Posh-Scots compared to Islanders. The only other divide in Scotland being Glasgow city and the rest of the lowlands is much more ludicrous.
Also Orkney being "Highland" instead of lowland is just ludicrous wrong even within this map's classification scheme.
America has a bajillion accents, especially when you consider every race has its own regional accent more or less.
>especially when you consider every race has its own regional accent more or less.
>he thinks this is unique to america
Silly yank bhatti boy, blud.
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There are like twenty different rural accents in the northeast alone.
US was recently colonized meaning its small initial settler population set the standard of speech. meanwhile england has a population that has been there for millenia, thus in the fuedal era when mass media didnt screw around with regional dialects local accents developed.
East Anglia and the South sound exactly the same, none of those subdivisions exist anymore.
The Irish one is very very inaccurate
It was clearly a map made by someone from England, so every county in England gets its own accent, they painted random accent lines through Northern Ireland because they don’t want to get bombed, Scotland is laughably “posh Scottish”, rural Scottish”, and “Glasgow”, wales has been split the same way, and The Republic is just “Dublin” and “rural Irish”. Completely England centric map.
>random accent lines through Northern Ireland because they don’t want to get bombed
It roughly maps to the areas primarily planted by Scots, like the north-eastern blob in Antrim is definitely where you'd find most speakers of the ulster-scots language/dialect/whatever, and the little Ballycastle catholic enclave in the far north-east is definitely a thing.
I do appreciate that they marked out Belfast as its own accent, but honestly the Derry accent is even more distinct (and somehow more grating)
t. maternal family are Londonderry Prods
>the Derry accent is even more distinct (and somehow more grating)
frick you
>t. maternal family are Londonderry Prods
>Belfast folk said I have a "wile Derry Twang" about me
I say it from a place of love
To cleanse myself I'll get in my kyar to go spend an arr in the parr sharr
haha apology accepted
What's your skin in this dumb game anon?
I'm from derry and I'm sensitive about it, particularly the accent because deep down I know it's not perfect. Catholic-Protestant mutt btw. It was nice talking to you anyway.
Ach if it helps, foreigners apparently like it!
>You now remember the Donegal fricker in the leaving cert Irish listening exam
>UK
>Size of Michigan
>Has four countries in it
>60 million people
>Insane population density
Why do people keep living in such densely populated places? It seems terrible.
Most people don't move very much in the course of their lives
>Has four countries in it
Though I always think it's funny, the density is nearly entirely from England alone.
IIRC if you take "Northern Europe" to be Iceland, Britain, Ireland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania (which is a pretty generous definition imo), most of Northern Europe lives in England.
That's a quite small area to live in. I like living in Wisconsin because it's so private and only 10k people live in my area. Probably nice in areas outside of England. I just couldn't think of a good reason to be around millions of people (which people do in America as well in our densely packed cities like New York)
Yeah, I went Rural NI > Belfast > Edinburgh and honestly I don't think I'd want to live in a city much bigger than that. London is Babylon-on-Thames as far as I'm concerned. Dublin is Babylon-on-Liffey.
That said have been thinking about maybe moving to Madrid though, so I guess I'm a big hypocrite
>of a good reason to be around millions of people
I think it does depend on the city a bit, like if I had to live in a Megacity I'd pick somewhere like Tokyo over London any day.
Better to have a shoebox to yourself than having to share a slightly bigger shoebox with three other people.
The thing I really like about Edinburgh and Glasgow's Victorian tenement buildings is that despite being dense blocks of flats, they're A. quite pretty and B. have very thick walls. I occasionally hear people on the stairwell through the front door, but never from any of the adjacent flats, which is very nice.
>Wisconsin
have a lovely and slightly insane Wisconisite Boomer as a remote co-worker, I have never heard someone say so many consecutive words about ice-cream in my life. 10/10 will never forget that an ice-cream parlour is directly responsible for The Fonz
I've been to Edinburgh and it's a lovely city. I'd be interested in living in Tokyo for a time only because I am an autist who likes anime. I have also been to London and I found it grimy for a European city and super densely populated and uncomfortable just to stay in. I think that has more to do with me, some people like that.
It's funny you mention ice cream because my grandpa owned an ice cream parlor and was quite the ice cream / custard ice cream enjoyer. I only criticized Britain out of my memories of my trip to the UK from 2012. It really is quite lovely when there aren't too many people around, though I liked northern Scotland best because of the mountains and the small towns where no one really bothered you
>I'd be interested in living in Tokyo for a time only because I am an autist who likes anime
Finding out the average Japanese household has more square-footage per person than the average British household was a real blackpill ngl. I also think Japan seems to have a good balance of "this is a region of natural beauty" and "this is a Cyberpunk Megacity", whereas Britain is just a terrible middle-ground of low-medium density in most "built-up" places. Britain is in a worse position today because London didn't have a Haussmann
Unironically we should just flatten terraced houses and build Scottish-style Tenements in their place across the country. Having lived in both the latter and a terraced house that was converted into flats, Tenements are superior in every way. Build one with modern techniques like "double glazing" and you have the apex city dwelling
>custard ice cream enjoyer
Ye Gods, the speech about why "frozen custard" is a different thing from "ice-cream" is a half-hour of my life that I'm not getting back. Still love yous dairy boys, I hear you've got the best cheddar in the US?
and that's entirely focused in a few cities and one mega-city. When you get out into the countryside things change almost immediately.
Because English is from the UK. It is typical for the homeland of a language to have greater dialectal variation than in foreign lands where the language has spread.
Colonial countries are unique in not having lots and lots of regional dialects. Most European countries do.
Honestly, pathetic. Again. It's like bongs aren't even trying. There's approximately 40.000 different dialects in Germany
And they all sound the same.
Dialects are always hard to make out if you don't actually speak the rooflanguage in the first place moron
1) founder effect
2) you speak English
Scotland has 6-7 accents
>Northumberland is divided into a dozen or so dialects
>Highlands only has one
I'm not a Brit but I'm still pretty sure that people in Inverness don't talk the same way as people from the highland islands
Places that were speaking Gaelic recently do share a particular sound and I can see the logic in lumping them together if you're making a lumpy accent map, though Inverness obviously tends towards a more generic Posh-Scots compared to Islanders. The only other divide in Scotland being Glasgow city and the rest of the lowlands is much more ludicrous.
Also Orkney being "Highland" instead of lowland is just ludicrous wrong even within this map's classification scheme.
Yep. Its a virgin teen autist post.
Excuse me but I am 30
there's a different accent here in every village
The UK literally has the least amount of variation outside of the new world so unfair comparison.
>uk
>includes ireland