What must I read to become well read?

I don’t want to be a pseud or some pretentious gay. I just don’t want to waste my time watching YouTube and TikTok prostitutes. What did the writers of the past read to become so good at their craft? Who or what inspired and informed their works? I want to learn

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bare minimum, at least as it pertains to the western canon

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bare minimum
      Literally nobody does this.

      Realistic reading you could do in a year or two (* is required):

      Homer - Iliad*
      Homer - Odyssey*
      Greek Tragedies
      Plato - Republic*
      Plato - Apology*
      Plato - Crito and Phaedo
      Plato - Symposium
      Aristotle - Physics
      Aristotle - Metaphysics
      Aristotle - Nicomachean Ethics*
      Marcus Aurelius - Meditations
      Seneca - Letters from a Stoic
      Virgil - Aeneid
      Dante - Divine Comedy (all 3 parts)*

      >Skip the scholastics and Christian pseud nonsence.

      Descartes - Meditations on First Philosophy*
      Spinoza - Ethics
      Leibniz - Monadology
      Berkeley - Three Dialogues
      Hume - Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding OR Treatise*
      Immanuel Kant - Critique of Pure Reason** (this will take a significant amount of time)
      Goethe - Collected Works but especially Faust*
      Hegel - Phenomenology of Spirit*
      Schopenhauer - World as Will and Representation*
      Nietzsche - Everything he ever wrote*

      This will put you leagues above almost everyone you know, despite it not being impressive to the average IQfytard.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don’t think Marcus Aurelius or Seneca are necessary.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          They aren’t, which is why I didn’t include the *

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are the two by Homer actually worth it? I remember reading it in high school and being bored out of my mind. Is it something that requires a more mature mind to appreciate? Keep in mind that during high school I only watched Filthyfrank and thought that Hitler/edgy stuff was unironically the shit

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          They are worth it if you want to be well-read, as every single Greek philosopher and poet, especially Plato, is going to constantly reference Homer. There is no point in deluding yourself into enjoying it if you find it boring, and it doesn’t make you stupid if you don’t enjoy certain “classics”, but I would at least slog through and note the key point being made. It is rewarding to read Nietzsche and catch an obscure reference towards Homer and feel in on what he is saying.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Read the Lattimore translations

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Skip the scholastics and Christian pseud nonsence.

        Why?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Nietzsche - Everything he ever wrote*
        I wish I was him

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Skip the scholastics and Christian pseud nonsense.
        Pseuds do that.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why does it need to be read?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            The beginning of the Rennaisance (des Cartes onwards) is when philosophy becomes pointless, sophomoric, trash pseudo-intellectuality. Everything anyone could need from philosophy starts with the Presocraticss and ends with the Scholastics. This includes everything in between, like the Stoics and Kalam (mediaeval Islamic) philosophy.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Given the western cut and paste of ideas from Buddhism and Zen as cognitive-behavioral therapy, it's probably a good idea to add some of those sources to your list. These ideas have a distinct utility that isn't clearly articulated in any western philosophy.
        Instant Zen, The Gateless Gate, and the Diamond Sutra are probably the highest bang for the buck.
        Other than that, your list is high quality.

    • 11 months ago
      Vidya thread

      >bare minimum
      Literally nobody does this.

      Realistic reading you could do in a year or two (* is required):

      Homer - Iliad*
      Homer - Odyssey*
      Greek Tragedies
      Plato - Republic*
      Plato - Apology*
      Plato - Crito and Phaedo
      Plato - Symposium
      Aristotle - Physics
      Aristotle - Metaphysics
      Aristotle - Nicomachean Ethics*
      Marcus Aurelius - Meditations
      Seneca - Letters from a Stoic
      Virgil - Aeneid
      Dante - Divine Comedy (all 3 parts)*

      >Skip the scholastics and Christian pseud nonsence.

      Descartes - Meditations on First Philosophy*
      Spinoza - Ethics
      Leibniz - Monadology
      Berkeley - Three Dialogues
      Hume - Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding OR Treatise*
      Immanuel Kant - Critique of Pure Reason** (this will take a significant amount of time)
      Goethe - Collected Works but especially Faust*
      Hegel - Phenomenology of Spirit*
      Schopenhauer - World as Will and Representation*
      Nietzsche - Everything he ever wrote*

      This will put you leagues above almost everyone you know, despite it not being impressive to the average IQfytard.

      What if I want to be well read in novels but not well read in philosophy?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Novels do not follow a linear train of thought since they aren’t in a “discussion” with one another like the philosophers were. You can just pick something that sounds like you will like it and then read it.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You need both to be “well read”

        • 11 months ago
          Vidya thread

          Right, but it feels that to be "well read" the 90% of your readings must be schizos from 2000 years ago

          Novels do not follow a linear train of thought since they aren’t in a “discussion” with one another like the philosophers were. You can just pick something that sounds like you will like it and then read it.

          Well, there are novels in the list of

          Bare minimum, at least as it pertains to the western canon

          shouldn't there be a list of that but without the philosophers? Maybe I should just save that list and search one by one the authors to see if their works are philosophy or not.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Right, but it feels that to be "well read" the 90% of your readings must be schizos from 2000 years ago
            Nah
            Most of the "well-read" books are written in the 18th and 19th century where the novel really came into its phase. But those authors have read all the schizos from 2000 years ago and in the case of the Bible it shows a lot in their work. Honestly you need the Bible, especially for the rebbelious authors of the 19th century.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            The bible also absolutely rules, specifically the old testiment. New testiment is rather boring

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I advise you to read anything that would require from you an occasional use of vocabulary. Like Ligotti.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    the greeks -> the romans -> the christians -> the french -> the germans -> the english

    there

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pick a lane that interests you. Don't JUST read X because you're supposed to (although there are some works that anyone probably should), but pick an interest like, interwar 20th century American novels, or Russian short stories, or the Romantic poets, or le Greek tragedy, a period and style you find interesting, and work your way out from there.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literally pick any topic you like, go to libgen, get to the scientific articles section, search the topic you are looking for, download the article with the most captivating name and read it.
    One article per day takes the doctor away.

    This is how you become "well-read", not making (not so) pop references all the day long. Unless you wanna sound like a Hollywood-tier nerd. Then listen to other anons.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you are so concerned about your aesthetic then maybe you should learn how to dress yourself and use fragrance.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you going to read just to think you are smart as a result and brag about it or read to become a better person, if it's the former then don't bother, even children can read.

      Did you even read op?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are aesthetic authors like Kawabata, although he's Japanese.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you going to read just to think you are smart as a result and brag about it or read to become a better person, if it's the former then don't bother, even children can read.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The major books of the bible
    Bhagavad gita
    Oddessey
    Iliad
    Beowulf
    The main plays of Shakespeare
    Herodutus Histories
    Faust
    Dantes Inferno

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Dantes Inferno
      PLEASE don't fall for the meme of only reading the inferno. It's completely pointless to read it without Purgatory and Paradise. It's truly sad how many people ruin the Comedy for themselves by stopping after Inferno. On its own it's not even that good, but as an element within the whole it's brilliant.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Start with Plato and end with Proust.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >what
    You must read well to become well read. Thinking the same things that ‘smart people’ think does not make you a smart person. Try leveraging your own perspective.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    1984
    Animal Farm
    Brave New World
    Lord Of The Flies
    The Poetic Edda
    The Prose Edda

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Epic of Gilgamesh
    Iliad and Odyssey
    Antigone
    Symposium
    Tao Te Ching
    Bhagvadad Gita
    Plutarchs Lives
    Meditations
    The Dhammapada
    Genesis, Ecclesiastes, Job
    The Rubaiyat
    Hamlet, Macbeth, King Lear
    Candide
    Moby Dick
    Kafka Stories
    Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
    Borges Stories
    Alice Munro Stories

    There you go OP, you are now better read than 99% of humanity

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      shut up closet homsexual. your gonna die out.

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