>cases, power supplies, sound cards, hard drives from 2012 are still ok today
I have a drive with 10+ years of use, and it still works. Just disconnected it, because I had no room in my case. Gotta say, It hurt to disconnected it. That little hot champion is to this day, the best mechanical hard drive that I ever had. Bought it to a dude that received it (instead of money) as a payment for some job he did. Little did he knew what he was giving me. >yeah yeah brand?
Hitachi DeskStar
and thanks to it, I will buy HGST whenever i can for HDD's.
nothing wrong with my FX8300 upstairs collecting dust either, will only throw that thing if the motherboard packs in.
Consoomers are the worst which is funny because they tend to be the same ones crying about muh environment.
Enjoy your 8gb of ram and 256gb of storage that you can't upgrade, and you can't even install linux on the M1/M2 when apple stops supporting your hardware and you can't get the newest version of OSX to download / update apps on the app store, and old binaries won't run on new versions of OSX will give a "outdated" warning even though you can run them.
Maybe if you live in a car, the m1 would actually be the perfect laptop (because you don't have a power plug, so you need to walk into a cafe and charge), but it's not gonna last forever. Utility is sometimes more important than longevity, but you cannot argue that M1/M2 laptops are gonna last forever.
Also you can find laptops that have SODIMM ram slots, and a 2.5inch slot, and nvme slot, so you buy the laptop without the NVME, and then buy the NVME for cheaper or faster than getting the one included (depending on the current prices, it changes a lot), and you can put your movies or backups in the HDD and boom it's good.
You can even get an egpu running on some laptops with a thunderbolt 3+ port (but by all means, the egpu connector is pretty expensive, you still need a PSU and usually a monitor, so buying a desktop is cheaper and better than a laptop + egpu, but it's a cool upgrade path for a 10 year old laptop).
Also if you spec up a macbook the price easily goes from $1000 to $2000, and at that point you can buy a PC with a 3080ti and 2tb of nvme storage.
agree with everything you said except egpu's aren't all that they're cracked up to be.. the throughput is not much better than most dedicated laptop cards already can handle, the only reason i can see them being useful is if it becomes impossible to replace your failed dedicated gpu, or if you need the improved airflow of having an external chassis and are willing to sacrifice throughput. or if for some reason you just want to have 3 gpu's running in parallel, idk
In theory in the future they could even buy a new laptop without a gpu and use the same egpu rig for it, or just use the same GPU + PSU for when they ever build a desktop.
Personally I think laptops without GPU's are better because usually you can only use the GPU's when plugged in (I think, maybe only for budget laptops), which is pretty disappointing when you want to game for 2 hours with the portability.
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>usually you can only use the GPU's when plugged in
This is never the case, most laptops will automatically change to the integrated when unplugged but you can manually change it back or change power settings.
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most hybrid laptops use PRIME which is even well-supported in linux nowadays. meaning, you can run programs using the dedicated gpu without any external display. or you could even switch off hybrid mode and exclusively use the dedicated gpu to render the native display. i've honestly had more bugs when switching between internal/external display on windows than i have with the linux drivers (aside from one update completely breaking functionality.. but LTS kernel is ideal for these weird setups anyway)
The e5 1680 v2 was like an 8 core 16 thread version of the i7 4960X, which was the 6 core 12 thread Extreme edition. I only had the 3970X, which was similar, though on an older process. This had 2 more cores and 10MB or 60% more cache. So on processor heavy multi-threaded workloads it is better by 2 cores and the cash. Stock the cores are a tiny bit slower than the 4960X, but it overclocks to about the same speeds as long as you can cool it.
I'd say that Intel only really depricated them when they finally bumped the core counts for i5, which was '17 with the 8000 line.
Before that they were all 4 core 4 thread and people were designing software accordingly.
I guess board NVMe support and PCIe 3 support might also factor, but honestly the cases where the difference would be noticable are negligable most of the time.
I'd say that Intel only really depricated them when they finally bumped the core counts for i5, which was '17 with the 8000 line.
Before that they were all 4 core 4 thread and people were designing software accordingly.
I guess board NVMe support and PCIe 3 support might also factor, but honestly the cases where the difference would be noticable are negligable most of the time.
I'm dumb, that's 6 years. Wow I have no sense of time.
Basically, all computer parts, assuming they're from decent manufacturers, can last decades if you take PROPER care of them. Dust them more than once a decade, re-apply thermal paste to the CPU every 5 years or so, take measures to prevent ESD while handling the motherboard, etc.
The only company whose parts I've had spontaneously break is Gigabyte. Their motherboards are fricking terrible.
fleshlights
cases, power supplies, sound cards, hard drives from 2012 are still ok today
>cases, power supplies, sound cards, hard drives from 2012 are still ok today
I have a drive with 10+ years of use, and it still works. Just disconnected it, because I had no room in my case. Gotta say, It hurt to disconnected it. That little hot champion is to this day, the best mechanical hard drive that I ever had. Bought it to a dude that received it (instead of money) as a payment for some job he did. Little did he knew what he was giving me.
>yeah yeah brand?
Hitachi DeskStar
and thanks to it, I will buy HGST whenever i can for HDD's.
nothing wrong with my FX8300 upstairs collecting dust either, will only throw that thing if the motherboard packs in.
Consoomers are the worst which is funny because they tend to be the same ones crying about muh environment.
That is ironic.
Piledriver may be one of the most secure CPUs if you wanted to make a reverse proxy.
amazing that this connector from the 80s outperforms all the garbage micro usb stuff we put up with
pretty sure those existed since early 20th century. since the invention of recorder
>20th century
>recorder
Good luck, I've yet to have had a jack that hasn't blown out after 2 or more years.
The electrics in my house are fricked clearly.
Pet Rock
Can last millions of years
>hourly
my haswell
Headphones, speakers, microphones, anything analogue. That's how i justify collecting headphones lol..
a single m2 core is faster than all 4 of those cores while using 1/50th energy
it's time to move on gramps
>implying he can afford to
even a used 25$ 10100f is 3 times faster than his cripple CPU from 10 years ago
>NEW TECHNOLOGY IS FASTER THAN OLD TECHNOLOGY
Thanks for clearing that up, moron
incorrect Intel hasn't made anything faster since sandy bridge
macs are for gays
Enjoy your 8gb of ram and 256gb of storage that you can't upgrade, and you can't even install linux on the M1/M2 when apple stops supporting your hardware and you can't get the newest version of OSX to download / update apps on the app store, and old binaries won't run on new versions of OSX will give a "outdated" warning even though you can run them.
Maybe if you live in a car, the m1 would actually be the perfect laptop (because you don't have a power plug, so you need to walk into a cafe and charge), but it's not gonna last forever. Utility is sometimes more important than longevity, but you cannot argue that M1/M2 laptops are gonna last forever.
Also you can find laptops that have SODIMM ram slots, and a 2.5inch slot, and nvme slot, so you buy the laptop without the NVME, and then buy the NVME for cheaper or faster than getting the one included (depending on the current prices, it changes a lot), and you can put your movies or backups in the HDD and boom it's good.
You can even get an egpu running on some laptops with a thunderbolt 3+ port (but by all means, the egpu connector is pretty expensive, you still need a PSU and usually a monitor, so buying a desktop is cheaper and better than a laptop + egpu, but it's a cool upgrade path for a 10 year old laptop).
Also if you spec up a macbook the price easily goes from $1000 to $2000, and at that point you can buy a PC with a 3080ti and 2tb of nvme storage.
agree with everything you said except egpu's aren't all that they're cracked up to be.. the throughput is not much better than most dedicated laptop cards already can handle, the only reason i can see them being useful is if it becomes impossible to replace your failed dedicated gpu, or if you need the improved airflow of having an external chassis and are willing to sacrifice throughput. or if for some reason you just want to have 3 gpu's running in parallel, idk
In theory in the future they could even buy a new laptop without a gpu and use the same egpu rig for it, or just use the same GPU + PSU for when they ever build a desktop.
Personally I think laptops without GPU's are better because usually you can only use the GPU's when plugged in (I think, maybe only for budget laptops), which is pretty disappointing when you want to game for 2 hours with the portability.
>usually you can only use the GPU's when plugged in
This is never the case, most laptops will automatically change to the integrated when unplugged but you can manually change it back or change power settings.
most hybrid laptops use PRIME which is even well-supported in linux nowadays. meaning, you can run programs using the dedicated gpu without any external display. or you could even switch off hybrid mode and exclusively use the dedicated gpu to render the native display. i've honestly had more bugs when switching between internal/external display on windows than i have with the linux drivers (aside from one update completely breaking functionality.. but LTS kernel is ideal for these weird setups anyway)
not the slow shit CPU you've posted OP
sorry that you use a bloated OS.
>bloated
I guess you also like to live in a cück shed because "too much room is a waste of space".
Lmaoing at your testo-levels
>t. bloated homosexual hoarder
Yea I use Windows 10 with default settings, how could you tell?
>fb7.png
Get shot
>i5 meme
that cpu is only for poor europeans that can't afford anything else
Coming up on year 10. Still satisfies as a workstation-level processor.
how much better does this perform than a regular i7 when doing blender renders and such?
The e5 1680 v2 was like an 8 core 16 thread version of the i7 4960X, which was the 6 core 12 thread Extreme edition. I only had the 3970X, which was similar, though on an older process. This had 2 more cores and 10MB or 60% more cache. So on processor heavy multi-threaded workloads it is better by 2 cores and the cash. Stock the cores are a tiny bit slower than the 4960X, but it overclocks to about the same speeds as long as you can cool it.
Based x79, I'm rolling a Xeon 1650 v2 overclocked to 4.5ghz with 48gb of ram.
Never gonna need another PC kek
This technology lasted 6 years, which is still pretty impressive.
I'd say that Intel only really depricated them when they finally bumped the core counts for i5, which was '17 with the 8000 line.
Before that they were all 4 core 4 thread and people were designing software accordingly.
I guess board NVMe support and PCIe 3 support might also factor, but honestly the cases where the difference would be noticable are negligable most of the time.
I'm dumb, that's 6 years. Wow I have no sense of time.
A watch. Pretty much any watch.
A car.
Many houseful appliances.
Actually most tech lasts ten years.
I have a 30 year old electric coffee grinder.
Don’t care still using my core 2 duo E6320 and there’s nothing you can do about it
Poorgay general.
possible to achieve natty?
yea no. this wont be enough in 2027. I guarantee it.
i suspect my 5800x3d will be decent for many years to come, especially with the intelisraelite trying to push the corelet meme
Yes it will, in fact the 2500K will also still be enough in 2027
a top-end macbook
unironically
I fully expect the PC I just bought to last me 5 years at least with some GPU changes perhaps
Ive had my Samsung Galaxy Y (2011) since practically day one and still works better than any phone today
Anything capable of having more than 4GB of ram installed is enough for homework/basic internet use.
Cope
That Core Duo is even more of a poorgay than OP
Case, psu, hdds. My i7-4770k will be 10 years old next year.
>fantastic.jpg
have a nice day bulk replyer
You first, phoneposter
>YOU PHONEPOSTER!!!!!
>has no evidence of phoneposting
your meds, schizo
Maybe the filename? Summer is eternal but damn does it intensify
yea, im stickin with it.
painful
> Non Z chipset mobo
> 2500K
Why?
because the 2500k is teh best according to op
Not your phone CPU, that's for sure.
raspberry pi. @ fraction of the cost
frick intel frick gates.
live in your regressed pc world where nothing advanced since the 80s.
>be year 2045
>poor europeans: duhhhhhhh i5 still works for me
morons
My 8150 has been running since 2011. Wont change anything until something burns up.
does anyone have experience with chinese aliexpress replica cpus? or are those a scam? i find that hard to believe if its real.
any half-decent gun will outlive you and your children and your grandchildren
CMOS Battery.
They only last 4 or 5 years.
my first gen i5 motherboard battery is still going strong even after 13 years of run time. built in 2009.
Tell that to my Pentium D machine lol
>Pentium D
Why torture yourself
Basically, all computer parts, assuming they're from decent manufacturers, can last decades if you take PROPER care of them. Dust them more than once a decade, re-apply thermal paste to the CPU every 5 years or so, take measures to prevent ESD while handling the motherboard, etc.
The only company whose parts I've had spontaneously break is Gigabyte. Their motherboards are fricking terrible.
ryzen couldn't even last 5
>no hyperthreading
fully erect at all times and unfazed, I will not go doctor.
gpt
Human beings in non East African countries.
i7-4790k