What should I read to become a scholar?
Hoping for some commentary recommendations as well, I feel very much out of my depth when trying to dive straight into the classics by myself.
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Site of local university.
I should read "Site of Local Univeristy"?
This article
https://shawnruby.substack.com/p/starting-your-own-metaphysics-start
I think starting with philosophy is best but you have to find some place you want to dig deeper and can make lots of connections outside your interests with. If you find physics gets you a deeper understanding in art then do physics until you have a decent starting place in art.
>Shawn Ruby
The Bible
You need to know your grammar, logic, and rhetoric. You need to be familiar with structuralist lingustics and post-structuralist literary theory. You need to know basic math (arithmetic, geometery, algebra etc) and you'll want to learn a classical language e.g. Latin, Greek, classical Arabic or Chinese. Then go right ahead and read the classics. You should read the Great Learning first. Be well read in philosophy and literature and practice your writing and composition skills. Don't just limit yourself to old mediums, film, manga, anime, music are perfectly good too.
It depends on what classical tradition your going for (Greco-Roman, Chinese-Japanese, Arabic etc) but I'd recommend giving the Great Learning and Confucius a read first. Ignore Western philosophy (anything Descartes and after). Some Western philosophers and writers are great but overall the whole tradition is waste of time when there are better canons to dedicate yourself too.
Great resources here
https://ctext.org/
Most obvious virus link in the history of this board
Why did you separate grammar and rhetoric?
This might be a hot take but I don't think that people that have to ask what they should read to be a scholar should become scholars. The world is full of plenty of scholars that follow the same curriculum, that end up parroting the same talking points of that curriculum to exhaustion. The world doesn't need more people like that, let alone people that wish to be lead to that curriculum who's sole interest in it is to "become a scholar." By all means, become a scholar, but do it because you have a genuine interest in a topic and think you have something to say about it, not because you have romanticized the life style.
>I feel very much out of my depth when trying to dive straight into the classics by myself.
Thats fine. Its ok to feel out of your depth. Keep reading stuff that genuinely peaks your interest and then come back to some of that stuff you thought was too much for you. You will be surprised how much you get out of subconsciously chewing on the things that bugged you about your first reading, and how much every other work you read can elucidate on the same themes to the point of building an intuitive understanding in you without you even realizing it.
>There's already people who do this, so you're not welcomed to do the same
This is not a real argument
Its fricking over done and lame I guess is my point
Kinda.
>Kinda
Kinda frick off then
>just be yourself bro
i'm a scholar of hard knocks
What's the hardest knock you've taken and survived?
I personally just read shit that interests me. I started with a few Hemingway books, read a few Dostoevsky novels, all of Kafka's stuff, and now for some reason I'm really fixated on hermeticism and Tibetan Buddhism so I'm probably gonna familiarize myself with those. I'm also setting a goal for myself to read all of Emerson's essays and get more into poetry. Then again, I don't think anyone would call me an actual "scholar."
>commentary
A scholar reading a commentary is like a professional bowler using bumpers on his lane. Sure, you can do it, but you’re going to look like a moron. You’re a scholar, you don’t read commentary, you are the commentary
Read Kuhn’s Structure of Scientific Revolutions to realize what everyone with any sense already is saying—all scholarship is based on personal aesthetics and what makes you “feel” interested
Kuhn obviously didn't anticipate a next wave for science. We will obviously have a next wave so perhaps that's not accurate but a reflection of your own perspective.
By next wave, do you mean a…. paradigm shift?
Isn’t kuhn’s conclusion that the most aesthetically presented paradigm wins out during scientific crises? And that aesthetic shift leads the revolution?
Is it possible to contribute or have discussions with scholars about slightly niche topics?
t. aspiring philologist of the JRR Tolkien kind
You will be laughed at for not being associated with an institution.
That sucks
If I start producing my own translations of texts that nobody realistically wants to read (hence why they haven't been translated yet) maybe I will earn respect from them
Perhaps. Most likely you be continue to be ignored (there is a reason those texts have not be translated already)
Get behind me Satan
Listen, if you love to to do it, then do it.
But if you’re going in with this idea that the Academic world will welcome you with open arms and praise for your work, I am afraid that is not the case. “Independent Scholar” is literally a slur among academics: https://www.chronicle.com/article/stop-calling-me-independent-scholar/
No one would care.
t. Studied PIE and Classics at UCLA for grad school
Who asked you?
I asked him
God it's so brutal bros
I managed to study my TL for 2 hours today but damn, seeing the reaction here has really dampened my spirit
If it makes you feel any better, I’m interested in your work from what little you’ve talked of it. I’d love to see some of it
Certainly contribute but as far as platforms, academics is academics. You'd still have to find a platform to talk to ppl about that stuff.
Unironically just look at your local community college’s syllabus for the subject you’re interested in, then buy the textbooks listed.
don't they get back pain sitting like this
pretty sure chinese had tables
It's part of the examination (과거) and it tests for physical capability in what most think is an easy job but that in fact requires great physical stamina.
But yes, once they are given an official position, they will be given a desk (책상)
why don't they sit up straight that takes more physical strength or is that disrespectful
pretty sure hunching the back is more easy on the muscles but it's also like bending the joints backwards
The examination is a days long process. I would commend greatly the applicate who could last the entire process with a stiff-straight back, but I do not condemn the rest of us humans who would naturally start to slouch after only an hour of sitting and working.
cause everything is on the floor and your feet will get numb very fast too
Only if you're fat.
if you're sitting cross legged and then hunch forward to look at something on the floor in front of you for long you will cut circulation from the weight of your body
Read these
I actually own half of these and I don’t think the artist does, but that girl is only two and a half feet tall going by the book scale hvvw
I was going to attempt graduate work in philosophy until a philosophy professor talked me out of it.
Unironically he didn’t want you edging in on his cut of the academy-philosophy-pay-pie
he told me I'd be "infinitely better off" working in a factory as an engineer and well, that's what I'm doing
Why were you studying philosophy in the first place?
I loved it at the time. I thought it was the end all be all of what one could study, the top of the food chain. maybe I still think that but I became interested in other things, and recognized that I didn't have the smarts to do it for a living, and that it would be very difficult to make it even if I tried. so I double majored in phil and electrical engineering and now work as an engineer
Do NOT pay for a shitty faux-luxury binding for these, just read them for free online
I got you, senpai