What technological advancements do we need in order to turn our planet into a beautiful and clean solarpunk utopia?

What technological advancements do we need in order to turn our planet into a beautiful and clean solarpunk utopia?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No technological advancement is needed. Will you be happier watching porn on a holoscreen vs your ipad? Will you be happier eating lab grown meat over your own grown beef? What we do need however...
    >1. Correcting the social structure:
    Nothing happens if our governments don't put people before profits or their own corrupt private sector ties. Think wars, food production, making people feel worthless through media as a means to sell junk etc. This is the primary limiting factor right now. We are literally just killing ourselves for some temporary gain that most of us don't even get to enjoy.
    >2. Correcting our definitions of human success:
    Promoting balanced lifestyles, joy from being part of a community rather than a cog in an uncontrolled wheel, joy of raising children, of seeing plants grow etc. Deeper relationships with peers not based in economic standing or artifical merits. A reduction in the size of our "virtual" communities so we can build our "real" communities.
    >3. Practical application of well known principals.
    Thinking permaculture practices applied to energy creation, efficiency, housing, etc. I imagine rows of passive solar homes tied to orchards and forests, hunters killing things rather than walled off mystery meat facilities. Tromps to make power, waterwheels from our food forests (which make rivers naturally) etc.
    >4. Population reduction through non violent means
    Naturally populations will start dipping, but a more active route would be to just limit people to having one kid, and supporting the parents role to be the best parent possible. Essentially raise a generation of good kids to take over, instead of tiktok ipad addicted dopamine freak children who will just consoom us to our end and have no emotional or practical skills.

    So it's impossible, essentially.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this, pretty much. we already have very efficient wind turbines, solar cells, and LED lightbulbs. even things like solar powered delivery drones aren't too far off. what's really holding us back isn't the technology, but our own inability to embrace that technology.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Vast amounts of very cheap energy.

        >very efficient wind turbines
        These are efficient but not cheap, and last typically just 25 years.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Population reduction through non violent means
      how dare you, we need perpetual economic growth or else the economy will collapse ! we need MORE people, consuming MORE things, being MORE productive, MORE planed obsolescence and MORE young people to perpetuate the retirement Ponzi

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >So it's impossible, essentially.
      This, as soon as there's some good will required for making something work it will inevitably fail, now shut up sit down and watch how much we can frick things up.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Will you be happier eating lab grown meat over your own grown beef?
      Unironically, yes. Caring for the environment implies caring for animals and reducing the harmful impact of livestock farming.
      As for digital technology though, I believe we must create systems that use less electricity (and zero fossil power) and minimize obsolescence. It should be a priority to optimize tech towards those goals.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >reducing the harmful impact of livestock farming.
        FYI there were tens of millions of bison roaming north America before we came here. Large numbers of herbivores are not inherently harmful and it makes sense to encourage local small herds that are ranged regeneratively vs pushing factory grown or vegan diets. Both of the latter require extremely long global supply lines. At the very least people should be vegetarian, not vegan. Veganism makes no sense from an environmental perspective, it's a moral/emotional thing that doesn't improve the situation.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah nobody wants to hear about vegetarians but I agree with you entirely. Veganism is silly, vegetarianism makes sense given the current status of the planet, and responsible meat eating is the long term goal if people had a modicum of self control and wanted to live longer.

          t. eggs + veggies for 15+ years

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm glad to hear you say it. I always inwardly cringe when I hear my vegan coworkers talk about how they spend 40+$ a day on specialty food that's "better for the environment." All individually plastic wrapped at the very least and half the ingredients imported.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Always hilarious to see this manner of pretension on IQfy of all places.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fpbp, but you forgot racism 2. That's an essential ingredient.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not though. It's bloat

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You want a bunch of literal morons running around making decisions? Who's the most materialistic, marketing friendly demographic in the US, anon?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not in the US though.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Real communities are built by white men, and white men alone.
      Frick off.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Will you be happier watching porn on a holoscreen vs your ipad
      Don't know of holo-whatsit, but having VR-gear and interactive IoT(local) synced sextoys made a whole new dimension of fricking your waifu

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      None of that can happen in a world that pretends like genetics don't have a large casual effect on behavior.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >our governments don't put people before profits
      Just another say of saying they put their own interests above yours. When you say it like that you see how ridiculous it is to say that we need to change basic biological/evolutionary drives before solving any social problems.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp

      We need a non-cream-separator-based economic system.

      Definitely not a more modern one that adds nothing but increasing levels of financialization.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sometimes I feel like society is akin to Frankenstein's monster.
        >people know joy, people know sorrow, it always felt the same
        >we convince an entire generation that a fast car, pinup girls and nationalism = your identity
        > the entire society forgets that they were already capable of joy and there was more than enough sorrow. Now they must feed the machine to feel those things.
        >tell them they are ugly, fat, stupid and poor, then supplement those feels with media and more identity barriers like nationalism and religious extremism. Red scare, radicalizing developing nations though military means, state sanctioned drugs and state controlled drug trade
        >double down by giving them shitty food, bad education and taking over the main data stream (the internet) and get them addicted to porn and social media
        >pat your shoulder because you've turned humanity into a bumbling, temperamental, moron with no self worth or human value system
        >oh shit they are all drooling at the mouth now what?
        we are all going to die lol

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          > identity barriers like nationalism and religious extremism
          Myopic moron. You deserve the hell we qll helped build.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    destroying capitalism would make this a lot more possible than some technological advancement

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How about I destroy your head on a curb?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not a technology but a society problem.

      All the commie attempts didn't go too well, so maybe it's not a great idea to try again?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The sun shining only half the day is hardly a societal problem.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          We have plenty of ways to store energy. Would be even easier to handle if we were smarter about using it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >we still have plenty of ways to store energy
            So are you going to reveal your revolutionary invention anytime soon?
            Because storing the energy generated by solar is still the biggest issue. All options are shit at best.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >All options are shit at best.
            They do the job.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They do a poor job for a very expensive price.
            You dumb Black folk are never going to replace oil if you refuse to acknowledge the issue of costs.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >muh prices
            Exactly, a societal problem of not valuing clean energy enough while tolerating polluting shit.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you think society would be better if everyone spent an arm and a leg for electricity?
            Who do you think that wealth is transferred to?

            In what world is society improved by leeching the wealth of the middle class to the political elite?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lowering the impact of climate crisis would be quite an improvement, even if we take your premise 1-1.

            How is it different to taxing other harmful stuff like cigarettes to push people into making better choices or at least collecting funds to deal with the bad ones anyway?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You sound like a useful idiot.

            Explain exactly how people paying more for necessities improves society?
            Who does that wealth transfer to?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Seems pretty self-explanatory:
            >have to pay more for stuff that harms the environment
            >adjust your lifestyle so you do less harm because you don't want to pay as much

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >have to pay more for stuff that harms the environment
            So you’re just going to make stuff up?

            how are you paying more for green/nuclear compared to oil generated electricity moron?

            Black person do you think solar energy is cheaper to generate than oil based?

            None of you pay your own electricity bills do you LOL

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Concession accepted.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It’s always hilarious how the most moronic and inexperienced people are always creating muh “solar punk” threads.

            It really just shows that the most outspoken proponents of green energy are also the least experienced in reality. You lean on literal fantasy to substantiate your beliefs.

            Meanwhile in reality the middle class of western nations is getting fleeced by their electricity companies (all state sponsored of course).
            israelites orchestrate a massive wealth transfer and feed you fantastical lies to keep you complacent while it happens.

            from what I know the sun is free while mining coal, transferring it, maintaining the plant 24/7 and paying for the whole process is not, dumb rightoid troony

            >solar energy is free
            Literal morons.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            what other cost is there other than installation and the occasional biannual power washing you mouth breathing sperg?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            from what I know the sun is free while mining coal, transferring it, maintaining the plant 24/7 and paying for the whole process is not, dumb rightoid troony

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The sun is free yes but

            It’s always hilarious how the most moronic and inexperienced people are always creating muh “solar punk” threads.

            It really just shows that the most outspoken proponents of green energy are also the least experienced in reality. You lean on literal fantasy to substantiate your beliefs.

            Meanwhile in reality the middle class of western nations is getting fleeced by their electricity companies (all state sponsored of course).
            israelites orchestrate a massive wealth transfer and feed you fantastical lies to keep you complacent while it happens.
            [...]
            >solar energy is free
            Literal morons.

            has a point.

            Coal and oil = suns energy from the past stored up in an object. Solar panels plus batteries just store current energy. The efficiency and application of either still costs money and resources. So we have to ask ourselves what is the most effective use of each source.

            >The not free stuff - dirty: coal and oil
            Should be used to run heavy equipment, move dirt and prepare land for water storage or the production of...
            >The actual free stuff
            Passive solar structures, water collection via swales, dams and artificial lakes aka forests which all just store water (our most precious resource). The use of passive solar plus thermal mass is extremely effective when done properly. Try to ignore the hippy dippy shit around earth ships and get down to the principals behind them. If you want a more cultured approach, look into permaculture as a foundation for the attitude behind efficient capture, use, and storage of energies. Hint: it tends to emulate natural systems, the master of efficiency.

            >Solar and battery
            We need to be wise with the limited mineral resources available. Electric cars were a massive mistake and will be looked at as another failure of capitalism. Driving a Honda fit will be infinitely better for the planet than buying a tesla. We should be reserving all these resources for future use once we've figured out...

            >A functioning society
            Which doesn't exist right now. The linchpin to all of this is the fact we live in a corrupt, dysfunctional world and we are going to destroy ourselves sooner than later. It's already too late for most of humanity as a whole.

            >You?
            Buy some land, build a homestead, have a couple kids and learn to enjoy life. Use a waterwheel for power, a masonry stove for heat, earth tubes for cooling and your gun for protein. Plant an orchard of perennial trees and food plants and write some poetry because it's all gonna be over in a flash (your life that is).

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fusion power, if achieved, will solve these problems. Desalination can easily be fixed once you have a lot of cheap energy.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dreaming for a non-existent tech is fun but not currently practical. Even if we did figure out fusion, storage will always be an issue.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Dreaming for a non-existent tech is fun but not currently practical.
            I know that, that was the point. To be even clearer: that is why Solarpunk is completely unrealistic today.
            >Even if we did figure out fusion, storage will always be an issue.
            Why??

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Even if we did figure out fusion, would the Limits To Growth mindset that's infected the global elite allow it to come to pass? Look at the (large) subset of greens who hate nuclear. They don't want reduced co2 they want reduced human capacity. Or look at the foreign aid that's mostly stealth subsidies for domestic firms and gives a man a fish instead of teaching him. Tech transfers plus access to cheap energy would have done far better but then the third world would have been more in control of its own destiny. Fear elicits a desire to make everything that's not firmly within their administrative grip slow down.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Self reliance for countries
            AKA a challenge to the global power structure. I agree with you.
            >reduced human capacity
            I do think we need a period of de-growth. It doesn't align with capitalism obviously, but the amount of resources either wasted or going into frivolous developments/businesses is sort of staggering. My wife for example works as a consultant for the government, she drives 1+ hrs to sit in an office and work on her laptop with her colleagues in other offices. No work from home policy. One small example of the insanity.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Black person do you think solar energy is cheaper to generate than oil based?
            NTA but yes, it is cheaper:
            https://archive.is/wCxWq
            >Solar panels have become so cheap that they are being used to build garden fences in the Netherlands and Germany, as a boom in Chinese production saturates the global market.
            >A solar panel cost 11 US cents per watt at the end of March, or just half the price it was at the same time last year, according to BloombergNEF, and was expected to fall further in a “race to the bottom” as manufacturers competed to get rid of excess supply.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you are directly promoting the transfer of wealth from the middle class onto billionaires if you defend the oil industry this much

            Even they don't refer to it as such despite loving the socialist LARP.

            Yes they do, watch their national congress

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            How is paying more for electricity transferring wealth from the middle class?

            Look I get that you’re an ideologically motivated moron, but think before you hit Post.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            how are you paying more for green/nuclear compared to oil generated electricity moron?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        idk man the current existing one in PRC seems to be doing great thus far

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >nightmare with christmas lights
          >not a single tree
          >wildlife consisting of rats
          >literally neon hell
          no thanks

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    batteries and mining the asteroids instead of the crust

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We already have the technology, we just have to cut off the food supply to thirdies, simple as that

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      thirdies are the ones suplying your food for very cheap(because they believe your currency is more valuable). not only that, but instead of being happy about a shrinking population, mother EVROPA is importing thirdies, because of

      >Population reduction through non violent means
      how dare you, we need perpetual economic growth or else the economy will collapse ! we need MORE people, consuming MORE things, being MORE productive, MORE planed obsolescence and MORE young people to perpetuate the retirement Ponzi

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        nta but the issue is
        >be colonists
        >have slavery
        >oh noes we cant be slavers anymore
        >okay we'll just call it capitalism, they are "workers"
        >use third world as modern totally not slave labor
        >use petroleum industry to feed everyone
        >turn first world into third world once you've gained total control and destroyed their health and morale via media
        The question is, what happens next? We have no functioning government, not one that works for it's populace. Of course resources are diminishing as is biodiversity and soil etc. last time we were here we just had a world war to correct things, and it seems like it's probably the only solution to the current problems short of turning society on its head. Either way, we're pretty fricked.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >get rid of cars and ads
    Not so hard.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Destroying technology and reverting to a pre agrarian hunter gatherer society

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    energy storage

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fewer people, unlimited resources and unlimited fusion energy.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even if we got all that we'll find a way to frick it up.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because people are shitty. The answer to solving so many issues is to incentivize people being less shitty, but we do literally the opposite.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The solution is to make people less shitty, which can only be done via eugenics. We can start with TND.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >clean solarpunk utopia
    imagine being this delusional, is mental illness just baked into leftism?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >believing the "left" is anything more than your new state sanctioned enemy (same goes for the right)
      >mental illness
      oh how revealing

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What technological advancements do we need in order to turn our planet into a beautiful and clean solarpunk utopia?
    Just deport all the non-whites.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >i am going to die early from climate change just so a handful of rich people can make an imaginary line on a bar graph go up

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good thing is, if you die, you're contributing more to climate change positively. Hopefully, you'll consider it a great favor to the world by killing yourself early so we can save the world

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I am going to live in poverty just so a handful of rich people can keep flying their private jets

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >i am going to die early from climate change
      holy zoomer just die right now from a rope

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's called a gun and it's already been invented.
    All we gotta do is kill all the non-whites with a particular emphasis on those of the hebrew faith and a utopia will spontaneously form.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Large and reusable space rockets that can move heavy/dirty human industry offworld, while making Earth into a agriculture world

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Solarpunk is a Peet Bootyjudge meme, it's fully gay and eats cum and wieners.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    none, the problem is corpos, oil tycoons, governments, the masses being a bunch of stupid sheep that take anything in the ass without b***hing as long as you do not take away food, societal issues, and likely a million other ones, some of which I'm aware and most of which I know nothing about

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >solar punk
    already exists its called india it sucks balls

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      5:50

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      these are all problems of poverty
      i wanna throw cash to these people and see what they do with a higher budget. just to see.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They are problems of low average IQ and poor, genetically based, behavioral traits. If you threw cash at them, you would be horrified with the results.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Let us imagine the next round of COVID will this time mixmaster the genes so that the offspring will have an IQ of minimum 100 at today's scale, plus reduced need for immediate gratification.
          Will that be sufficient to bring us a Solarpunk world?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Depends. If they still have the rest of their genetic traits, they will just be better at scheming and pulling scams. 100 MINIMUM would put them well above the rest of the world, though, assuming that the average moves up in proportion to the current minimum.
            They might game it out and kill everyone else, now that they would be at the top and would have the intelligence to pull it off.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      5:50

      he does the same maneuver as the bald dude at the end of Mad Max Fury Road

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zyklon B.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop all air travel save for rescue helicopters. Limit the size of private boats to ten meters. Stop electric vehicle development until good batteries are developed so we don't waste precious rare earth materials. Fund biofuel research on a global scale since at least biodiesel can search as a drop in fuel for trucks, trains, and boats. If we're going full fantasy no military. Only have small arms to deal with animals.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The technology that instantly evaporates 100% of humans observed with a lopsided ratio of dumbass posts on the internet to being a normal fricking person.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Look at this guy, wanting to end the entire human race.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i unironically agree with that tho.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where's the sovl?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nowhere

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I guess the real question is, how do we convince people to stop using oil?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Make the alternative cheaper.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Make the alternative cheaper.

      Make a better alternative. Oil is the world's blood right now. Everything plastic, everything transportation, everything packaging, everything utilities are oil bloodlines.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >make a shit load of nuclear plants, like way more than we need
      >and support that with geo/hydro/solar/wind where applicable
      >use the excess power to carbon capture from the ocean
      >turn that into (net zero) synthetic fuel
      The US Navy was/is looking into doing this at scale to supply their smaller ships, and the Air Force.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it does not matter what tech you get any improvement is swallowed up by the increase in population to the fill up the carrying capacity.

    Unless your white or jap.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >technological advancements
    We have all the tech necessary. We just don't have the will to use it. To many people are commited to creating the proverbial grim meathook future.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    move to mars

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want the nuclear future that was stolen from us. Frick greenies and frick solar.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      mfw nuclear winter

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the reactors would keep us warm

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tsar Bomba

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    An authoritarian government who wants to copy solarpunk aesthetic

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What technological advancements do we need in order to turn our planet into a beautiful and clean solarpunk utopia?

    We already got all the technology for this. Some parts of the world almost look like an Solarpunk utopia.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that pic looks AI generated

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.relations-publiques.pro/39171/in-sun-we-trust-lapplication-qui-veut-accelerer-la-transition-energetique.html

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Such installations are also quite common in Germany.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A cheap battery made from common materials that can store as much energy as gasoline per weight.

    Self sustaining fusion reactors

    Bacteria or fungus that can break down plastic back into oil.

    Nano technology that can self replicate and clean up our environment and extract/recycle resources.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most of these would lead to techBlack folk paving over forests to build more shitty apartment buildings for immigrants to increase the GDP

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is weird how the packaging and presentation was a shade of Solarpunk, yet the contents was not. I don't think people even talked about Solarpunk back then.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    national socialism

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You're oversimplifying to the point of being moronic, frick off. You sound underage so you can come back when you're 18.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are in denial about the absolute truth.
      The truth really hurts your shitskin feelings huh?
      Go watch more netflix that rewrites history to feel better.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've been a white nationalist for 15 years you fricking moron. Go outside.

        Imagine being as delusional as greentards. Jesus christ they're fricking morons.

        I live in fricking Hawaii and electricity costs motherfricking 50 cents a kwh!

        The feds and the state gave me tax credits to cover literally 60% of the fricking cost and I will still barely break even by the time my batteries can only hold 30% of the same charge they could originally.

        Fricking larpers, kys.

        >nature bad because no free energy
        have a nice day entitled Black person.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          shalom

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Go back to israel, foreskin eater

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >delusional green flag also larps as a white nationalist
          lmao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but guess what political party was the first to propose green politics?

            Not a technology but a society problem.

            All the commie attempts didn't go too well, so maybe it's not a great idea to try again?

            >society problem
            Some is, like when you have famine and obesity epidemics in Africa at the same time. Then again, if you really want a future that looks like OP image, you sure need a lot of tech to make it work. Agritech is growing but a lot more is needed.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            > NTA but guess what political party was the first to propose green politics
            Was it the party that talked big but could never actually deliver?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Was it the party that talked big but could never actually deliver?
            Anon., that doesn't really narrow things down.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How do we make utopia possible?
    By killing many more people than the last tyrant who tried it

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being as delusional as greentards. Jesus christ they're fricking morons.

    I live in fricking Hawaii and electricity costs motherfricking 50 cents a kwh!

    The feds and the state gave me tax credits to cover literally 60% of the fricking cost and I will still barely break even by the time my batteries can only hold 30% of the same charge they could originally.

    Fricking larpers, kys.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not installing a tesla home on your gazebo
      >actually getting the "power grid" electricity that's fricked up by sea/salt water corroded cables
      actually look for "energy providers" before living in fricking outta nowhere.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Eugenics. The answer is eugenics.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      4000IQ supermen gigachads that follow the same consumption patterns that we have now will not make anything better

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. End the israelites.
    2. Ban the spraying of sun-blocking chemtrails in our skies.
    3. Bring back giant nazi space-mirrors.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >3. Bring back giant nazi space-mirrors.
      With that backstory I guess geo engineering will be a hard sell.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >3. Bring back giant nazi space-mirrors.
      With that backstory I guess geo engineering will be a hard sell.

      Not everyone has given up yet:
      >SPACE MIRRORS: DREAMS OF TURNING THE NIGHT INTO DAY AROUND THE CLOCK
      https://hackaday.com/2024/04/03/space-mirrors-dreams-of-turning-the-night-into-day-around-the-clock/
      >Recently, a company by former SpaceX employee Ben Nowack – called Reflect Orbital – announced that it is now ready to put gigantic mirrors in space to reflect sunshine at ground-based solar farms. This is an idea that’s been around for a hundred years already, both for purposes of defeating the night through reflecting sunshine onto the surface, as well as to reject the same sunshine and reduce the surface temperature. The central question here is perhaps what the effect would be of adding or subtracting (or both) of solar irradiation on such a large scale as suggested?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >End the night
      Another Mongoloid idea, the same people who are installing LED lamps on streetlights to destroy your eyes. There are 12 hours of light and 12 hours of darkness, deal with it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >12 hours of light and 12 hours of darkness
        >He doesn't live at the polar circle

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    are solar panels even eco friendly? gonna be funny if people 20 years from now start talking about how producing solar panels destroys the environment

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think that's a secret to anyone, the important thing is that they destroy it less than ever worse methods we're using now.

      idk man the current existing one in PRC seems to be doing great thus far

      How? It only started to work when they switched to state capitalism and life there is still dystopian even if you're a rich chink.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >state capitalism
        no it's market socialism, western economies and especially South Korea are State capitalist shitholes

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You ideological Black folk just continue to make up terms

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Even they don't refer to it as such despite loving the socialist LARP.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >punk
    >utopia
    Start by rewriting the dictionary, I guess.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      fun fact: the "punk" in solarpunk, cyberpunk, dieselpunk, etc. actually refers to the lack of a (usually capitalist) government in works of fiction using those aesthetics.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Source? That is contrary to

        [...]

        .

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Believing Wikipedia is proof of anything
            Anon....

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I had a closer look. the wiki entry is a train wreck. Ref 7 is cited as
            > Reina-Rozo, Juan David (2021-03-05). "Art, Energy and Technology: the Solarpunk Movement". International Journal of Engineering, Social Justice, and Peace. 8 (1): 47–60. doi:10.24908/ijesjp.v8i1.14292. ISSN 1927-9434. S2CID 233805052. The 'punk' in Solarpunk is about rebellion, counterculture, post-capitalism, decolonialism and enthusiasm. It is about going in a different direction than the mainstream, which is increasingly going in a scary direction.
            See that?
            >International Journal of Engineering, Social Justice, and Peace
            That should raise red flags like a matador. Since we all have an appetite for sheer pain, let's go there. It is not pretty. All we get is an abstract that does not include the quoted text in the citation. The actual article is harder to find:
            https://ojs.library.queensu.ca/index.php/IJESJP/article/download/14292/9521
            Therein:
            >Solarpunk is defined as an uprising of hope against the daily despair that these times bring. This movement may be considered as a countercultural rebellion to supplement literary pessimism in visions of how the future may be possible (Solarpunk Anarchist, 2016).
            That is closer to reality but contrary to the wiki entry. The wiki quote is an opinion piece at the end under the belief that
            >Solarpunk is at once a vision of the future, a thoughtful provocation, a way of living, and a set of achievable proposals to get there.

            So while the former has a citation, the latter is merely an unsubstantiated opinion from a whoever.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Power output not being slammed downwards every two seasons
    >Rewriting thermodynamics for panel efficiency
    >Space
    I prefer nuclear

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Great Reset is inevitable.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      homosexual detected

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just a reminder you can build your own Solarpunk home.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      imagine being in there during a cozy snow storm. Imagine a hail storm...

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ah yes, being warm and safe during really bad weather is super comfy. A tropical indoors during a snow storm would be fantastic.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Germany got this as well

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    - 8 billion humans for a start.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Netherlands exist

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's not solarpunk until we have robot servants and no one has to work a grueling job for 8 hours a day

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We have the technology now to do this now. The problem is not that we aren't technologically advanced enough, it's that the way we structure our society has not advanced enough. Progress is held back by those in power in order to maintain their position at the top of the hierarchy at the expense of the wellbeing of all others.

    No technology will make your lives any better as long as the economy is designed is such a way that it values making more money above providing for human needs. Any technological improvements that make it easier to provide for your needs will only be used by those in power to exploit you even more efficiently, providing the same quality of life you have now while allowing them to extract even more money from you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >We have the technology now to do this now.
      Really? How do we get enough water and control the water in place to enable all this?
      >Progress is held back by those in power in order to maintain their position at the top of the hierarchy at the expense of the wellbeing of all others.
      I often hear such arguments but I am not convinced the people at the top are willing to turn the world into a junk yard just to gain a minor advantage. the middle class has a better lifestyle than nobility did 1000 years ago.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I am not convinced the people at the top are willing to turn the world into a junk yard just to gain a minor advantage.

        The people who rise to the top are not those who are the smartest or hardest working. They are those who are most willing to exploit others for their personal gain, even if it causes them great harm. If the entire world is rendered uninhabitable by their actions, it is irrelevent to them. With or without total environmental destruction, they will still be dead in a few decades either way. So while becoming excessively rich may not actually improve their lives any, It does have the effect of making them feel like they've done something important with their lives. It's really more of a way for them to cope with their own mortality than anything else.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The nobility argument
        People worked less and had live expectancies equal to ours (when we don't skew for infant mortality, lots of kids died back then). Either way a race to the bottom or comparing ourselves to 1000 years ago is a little silly. What isn't silly is acknowledging that we are in decline. I don't want that statement to get washed over, we, our species, are in decline, like, we are rolling down a hill towards death as a species in almost every measurable way.
        >Life expectancy decreasing in developed nations
        >Economic stability worse than ever
        >Work life balance and cost of living to income ratios steadily decreasing for most of the pop.
        >Cancer rates rising in all populations
        >Mental health issues rising in all populations
        >Resources running out globally, from fertilizers that fueled our population boom to literally fuel
        >Collapse of various key animal species leading to food chain breakdowns (fish, insects)
        >Deforestation for grazing at highest ever
        >Intelligence decline in kids
        >Not to mention the multi front war drums beating across the globe
        On the topic of technology, it's pretty frustrating to know we had the opportunity to use the tech of the industrial revolution to create a utopia, but instead we just did feudalism 2.0 under the name of capitalism. It was great for maybe 30 years, but as most predicted, capitalism eventually eats itself. We are doing it again with the green washing, electric car bullshit, wasting precious resources to buy a little more time in the end stage capitalism horror show we are all in. At least we got tomogochis and Diddy Kong racing, and VR is cool I guess.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          My point was not so much about life expectancy than quality of life. Famine is now unlikely, we can expect to get food, we can travel and experience a lot more than people did just 100 years ago.
          As for health I agree that infant mortality was high. Still, antibiotics took care of bacterial infections which used to be a major killer. Pacemakers, hearing aids, titanium joints and more are also rathe recent addition to quality of life and life expectancy.

          So we had a lot of gains, unfortunately there is now, as you write, a lot of stagnation and decline. The rot is everywhere, reaching the core of society, and I am not sure how we can get out of it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the middle class has a better lifestyle than nobility did 1000 years ago.

        It is true that life is much better than it was 1000 years ago. However, it is not through technological innovation alone that this has happened. Along side those technological advancements, we have also developed the ways our society is structured to better take advantage of those innovations. One of the the biggest changes being that we are no longer ruled by kings who's rule is considered an act of divine will and goes entirely unquestioned.

        If our society today was restructured to fully take advantage of modern technologies to provide for peoples needs, we could see a similar massive improvement to the way people live. One where the average person's lives are made better than even the lives of richest men alive today.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    been thinking about picking one of these up. obvs i don't expect it to power my entire home, but just using it to charge my laptop, phone, Nintendo switch, etc. would be kinda cool. thoughts?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >using it to charge my laptop, phone, Nintendo switch
      You can charge your phone or half of one of the other two, and you can do it once per day.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have a panel the size of an A4 sheet that I use to charge my phone. It takes a few hours but it works. I mainly use it for a slow recharge so that the battery will last me many years.

        That's handy. Does it have to be in actual sunlight, or can I leave it next to a window?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I have to place it in direct sunlight or it will not charge. I experimented with the setup and when placing it in a white table the diffuse reflections are sufficient to noticeably increase the charging rate. Direct sunlight is still also needed.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have a panel the size of an A4 sheet that I use to charge my phone. It takes a few hours but it works. I mainly use it for a slow recharge so that the battery will last me many years.

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    black powder

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i didn't know he was so hot what the frick????? need his bwc like you wouldn't believe

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >clean solarpunk utopia
    I think the cleanliness will inevitable come over time and not too far into the future. Rubbish and waste are in most cases resources that are not yet exploited. For instance people complain that sewage is full of phosphorus that acts as nutrients causing algae blooms, yet at the same time people agree the world is running out of commercially available sources.

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