What technology from the past do you wish would make a come back?
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What technology from the past do you wish would make a come back?
What technology from the past do you wish would make a come back?
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Vr
It's basically being dropped from everything after 2020
The Meta Quest 2 is still selling
>The Meta Quest 2 is still selling
It has pretty bad screen door effect I've had one for a while now it's get there's no lag and the picture is very clear in motion but holy hell is 4k res too low even 8k downsampled still isn't great
Maybe PS5 VR might be able to revitalize the market.
>Maybe PS5 VR might be able to revitalize the market.
I doubt it this tech is good for enterprise and consumer sim stuff like flight sims and assetto and shit but outside of that it's just not good enough yet
no one wants to deal with VR anymore since they realized it'll take decades for consumer tech to able to support real immersion instead of blocky screen door hell
>no one wants to deal with VR anymore since they realized it'll take decades for consumer tech to able to support real immersion instead of blocky screen door hell
Yeah it's in that awkward phase where it's still technically stuck in the 2010s in terms of resolution. The quest 3 and other headsets are in dev hell as well
Good. All that power they demand can be put to better use than bing wahoo and Metaverse bullshit. And the time wasted fricking around with that shit could be put to better use by going outside insted.
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CRTs
I never get this meme. What do you like in CRTs that LCD doesn't have? Is it just nostalgia factor?
CRTs are big, bulky, and costly to make. LCD is almost the opposite. It's really clear to me that LCD is superior in every way.
>and costly to make
Who the frick do you know that's manufacturing their own CRTs that this would matter?
Better colors, vastly superior black levels than similarly priced LCDs (unless you buy from scalping israelites on the internet), still unmatched response time and 0 motion blur.
And this may be quite specific, but no real "native" resolution, only a maximum, a CRT doesn't upscale, it only adds scanlines if needed, making it the best way to play retro games. I also prefer 4:3 for games, but maybe 16:10 would be best for me.
Only OLED can match CRTs, and it's still quite expensive and burns in way faster, i'm still hopefull tho, display tech is getting better lately.
>Better colors
Very very doubtful. Our first PC has CRT too and LCD looks much nicer to my eyes. Or maybe it's just the brightness.
>black levels
>motion blur
idk about this. eli5?
>no real "native" resolution, only a maximum
wut? LCD's native is res is its max res. wdym?
>I also prefer 4:3 for games
Grandpa pls.
Also CRT has its curve and bend that I found very ugly even on its day.
>Very very doubtful. Our first PC has CRT too and LCD looks much nicer to my eyes. Or maybe it's just the brightness.
Back in the day, a lot of people had really crappy displays, but nowadays you can enjoy good quality CRTs, which is where the real benefits are. (You still need a dark room to enjoy a CRT's full potential though, like a projector.)
levels
blur
>idk about this. eli5?
Black levels = how black the blackest part of an image can be, which is 100% in a dark room since like OLED, crts simply don't shoot any light where there isn't any.
>wut? LCD's native is res is its max res. wdym?
LCDs upscale every resolution that isn't it's native with filters, making the entire imagz blurry. CRTs don't really have a native resolution, only a max bandwidth, as CRTs don't have pixels. Meaning you can display any kind of lower or weird resolutions correctly, without upscaling, the only thing CRTs do is just jump lines to stretch the image to the whole screen top to bottom, and the only "scaling" going on is pretty much nearest-neighboor.
The electronics of a CRT is pretty complicated, but for a end user it means that a CRT will always display any resolution in it's scan range perfectly, which is why you can find 2500x1300 "pixels" CRT monitors from the 90s. (Something like that, forgot the exact resolution)
>Grandpa pls.
It's true tho, it's a better format for that media. For movies i'd rather get an ultra wide or 16:9 tho, unless the movie was made to be seen on 4:3 (some were)
That doesn't really convince me how CRTs are better but props to you for explaining clearly what your points are.
>2500x1300 in 90s CRT
Yeah, no one wants to do that though.
Not that I expect to find modern CRTs with appropriate size that can handle that much resolution without being eye-moronic.
>no one wants that
Graphic designers did. That's what they were made for, and they were sharp enough to push that resolution flawlessly even back then.
CRTs could push extremely high resolutions very early on, with the only real limitation being people's GPUs, A lot of those CRTs for graphic design simply had the highest resolution VGA could display as a max.
>Graphic designers did.
That's why graphic designers only use CRTs to this day.
>wdym?
Not him, but he means CRT's don't have individual pixels so they can display any resolution.
Note that there are phosphors (often confused for pixels), but a CRT can for example make one side of a phosphor brighter than the other side.
LCD's only look optimal at 100%, 50%, 33.3%, 25%, etc. of their native resolution because each pixel can only show a single color.
But it's a little more complicated than that because the phosphors do impact color resolution.
It's only really in the luminance channel where CRT's don't have a native resolution, not color the color channel.
Especially when he goes off claiming CRT's have good color rendition that's really not true unless you set it to a resolution where the phosphors match up with the pixels.
>What do you like in CRTs that LCD doesn't have?
Viewing angles, black levels, motion performance, multisync, low latency.
Better image quality is the only advantage CRTs have over LCD.
Motion clarity, but mostly it's just a retroomer/poorgay lifestyle cult that clings to that one insignificant edge because for some reason they're extremely insecure about admitting they just like the aesthetic.
>retroomer/poorgay lifestyle cult
I own a 32" 10 bit 4K monitor, too.
That's nice, is it supposed to mean anything?
Yes, I like CRTs because they're better, not for poorgay reasons.
But you just said wasted a bunch of money and space on a big 4K monitor? Not all CRT cultists are poorgays, most are just dumb.
It's not a waste, it serves a purpose of watching films and videos.
You literally just said CRTs are better in the post I quoted. Which one is it?
Better at certain things.
Like?
Videogames, especially 60Hz ones but also generally.
So the retroomer end of the cult spectrum as I noted, got it.
I play all games on it new or old.
The Ski Zip (may be known by another name in different countries).
Netbooks, small phones, basically anything with portability and small form factor.
It shouldn't be a niche product that is sold with higher price. It doesn't have to be the norm either but at least acceptable to general populace.
>small phones
ditto. It's impossible to find a good small phone. It's either really cheap garbage or high end. Nothing in the 200-300 range
We have access to such incredible amounts of power now on the low end and it baffles me that not even freetard open hardware grifters have tried to make a somewhat affordable and professional looking/feeling nu-HPC. All we get instead are ugly emulator-oriented toy chink shit like GPD.
You can get a GPD MicroPC anon.
Nah, I singled out GPD in that post for a reason. They suck. UMPCs suck. HPCs are not the same thing.
Classic GUI look and feel.
personal webpages, when people needed or wanted a little html. back even even cuties could put up a blink or seek out a generator for a sparkly gif.
also chat rooms like yahoo had or goody avatar based ones like excite used
Physical media for games. Maybe make them cartridges to take adventage of flash memory's speed, my pc's storage is way too small to install my entire fricking steam library, while i could just have a stack of cartidges next to me, that stuff nearly never dies, and making games big for optimization purposes would actually make sense.
I also wish a similar tech to VHS but digital and 4k hdr would take over, kind of like D-VHS, that would make physical movies actually enjoyable to watch again, with you able to fast forward all the logos and bullshit. (If that ever happens i doubt the israelites would make that possible though.)
The plasma monitors were kind of cool
These lcd monitors are game of tier
Source Engine 1
It is not gone yet and will not go too soon, but it'll definitely won't stay forever. It wont go over night, but become less relevant day by day. Sadly. I've spent all my childhood in the hammer editor.
"GoldSource (GoldSrc), is never going away, there are popular games still running on it because of how good the engine is (before valve fricked with it that is.) And wasn't it open sourced too since ?
Magneto Optical drives. 90mm Standard ISO 15041 disks and drives were high reliability and quite kino back in the day, but they are now a dead format.
super vhs (or super betamax)
Technology with those green display screens. I don't know what they're called so I can't serch for a pic.
Rack mounted instruments. Do they still make those? Whenever I see racks like these it's usually filled with old shit.
>Rack mounted instruments. Do they still make those? Whenever I see racks like these it's usually filled with old shit.
Are you fricking kidding me? There's a shit tonne of them and it's booming again because people realised that digital synths suck when making shit.
>Do
It's industry standard
>old
Cause it's expensive shit and boomers work under the "why replace if it still works" mentality
>why replace if it still works
Yes they do and honestly shit made back in the day will probably outlast us, anon.
I have an Akai s950, Emu E-Synth, Marion ProSynth and by sheer luck a Lexicon 480l in my rack.
All recapped and gotek swapped. Most reliable shit ever, Akai and Lexicon are almost mil spec imho.
There isn't anything particular but home HIFI needs to come back.
It's stuck as a weird niche between the Bluetooth shit, receivers, audiophile non-sense and the professional market.
>What technology from the past do you wish would make a come back?
supersonic passenger transport
This and the nextel walkie talkie phones. Mobile devices were much more ambitious back in the day. Also, cigarette lighters in cars and gas cans that have a real breather cap.
Lmao. My nuke plant still uses these pieces of shit
The catherine wheel.
idk if its just me, but I rather miss the native console addon stuff and the later 3rd party stuff through it like the 64dd for the N64, the modem and gba player for the gamecube, and the storage expansion/upgrade of the xbox 360 and xbox series x. it seems like that sort of thing has largely gone away.
>it seems like that sort of thing has largely gone away.
It's gone away because people know better and consoles have everything they need.
Special formats of shit like hard drives, memory cards are frowned upon because there is nothing special about them that can't be solved with something standard like a USB drive.
It kinda makes things generic and boring but in hindsight that was always desired when you where actually in the era.
Reel to reel, analog oscilloscopes, cars without computers, 3g phones
Yes I'm based
>3g phones
Nah your a tard
>reel to reel
frick yeah, dude.
>Reel to reel
Completely obsoleted by digital audio.
>cars without computers
Computers should be used to save fuel, make more horsepower, etc. Infotainment is bloat though.
>3g phones
Why would anyone limit themselves to something so slow?
>Computers should be used to save fuel, make more horsepower, etc. Infotainment is bloat though.
In general I'd like to see a move towards the bare minimum use of computers in products. They do have their place, like you said.
Slider phones, though I have been spoiled by android auto so I don't know if I'd go back
Blackberry
They handed over the BBM keys though. Literally the main reason everyone went to iphone and messaging apps.
Search engines that work
Like ones able to search the web? I miss those days. Especially when you could use an exact search string and not get irrelevant suggestions.
non smart portable tech like feature phones and mp3 players
Thrift stores are actually a good place to puck up cheap surround sound amps. Sometimes built into a DVD player. Just find something with an SPDIF input and pick up some bookshelf speakers and a sub and you got yourself cheap 5.1 surround.
Damn I wish
The only thing we get at our thrift stores is CD players, DVD players and Blu-ray players.
The occasional ancient low-end amp from a component hi-fi will make its way sometimes but never full receivers
Reflective displays.
Transflective LCDs are great and really should have become the standard for portable electronics.
For reflective displays the issue is that electrowetting is vaporware. E-ink still sucks and has advanced at a crawl, it's not yet generally useable as a computer display.
Laptop ports on the bottom of the design that allow for an added flat battery for longer run times.
Big laptop batteries in general would be nice. Now that you don't need DVD drives and shit anymore there's no excuse not to have 100Wh
>extended palmrest battery AND replaced optical bay with battery
Miss my D630, that fricker ran all day
>Miss my D630, that fricker ran all day
I still have 6 of them. None with a larger battery though since I dont really use them for long times on the go and the Media Bay Battery is next to impossible to find new even as a 3rd party. Hell, replacement keyboards are now usually a 1 month shipping process.
Still solid enough to keep around for when friends want to do some old school LAN gaming. Bring the 6 laptops, 6 mice, 6 65 watt adapters and a wireless router or switch with some cat 6.
Nuclear power
guillotines
>VCR players
holy zoomer