It's not though. Capitalism relies on the invisible hand of the market, and only very sparingly the heavy hand of the statute. The United States is very much a managed economy at this point.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I would called it socialism at this point. Old socialist regimes didn't have this amount of parasitism and regulations. We just have the internet now to distract us from reality but the government is more intrusive than ever before.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Americans are SLAVES lol >Verification not required.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>The United States is very much a managed economy at this point.
It is. And it kind of has to be.
At some point we will have to stop lying to ourselves about this but it's a big hurdle.
1 month ago
Anonymous
no u
You have never experienced a free market in your entire pathetic life.
>real capitalism has never been tried before!!!
Go ask the communists for more moronic copes you fricking cucks, this is literally the same shit they say when you point out all communisms ever invented end up in mass deaths.
But go on and say how your ideal world in a bubble is so possible and how you'd implement it if you were dictators.
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Anonymous
>Go ask the communists
That's you.
1 month ago
Anonymous
It was tried, you fricking moron. It lead to the most prosperous and coveted nation to ever exist. Now it has been subverted. The New Deal was the beginning of the end for the US.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Are you baiting or moronic? The American government started implementing tariffs and subsidies almost as soon as it came into existence. It was never a completely free market.
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Anonymous
It came pretty fricking close during the Jacksonian era
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Anonymous
>Jackson didn't like the central bank so he was basically a libertarian
Jackson is the guy who pissed off the whole South by not revoking the tariff of abominations and started the whole process of continually selling out to big business over copyright. You are mental if you think he was "close" to creating some kind of ancap paradise
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm not a purist
1 month ago
Anonymous
I don't recall ever even suggesting that it's never been tried. I just said that's not what we have now. You seem like a moron. Are you a moron?
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm not going to claim no true Scotsman, but you really have to be a moron to call this capitalism. The only companies which have made money in the last two decades are government contractors
Government corruption is in the nature of capitalism. In the nature of communism as well. good luck trying to stop billionaire oligarchs from influencing your country to their own goals.
That's where they buy the parts from. All they do is make a custom injection plastic mold for it and hype it up with a 5 minute long CGI trailer. Convincing career politicians with Hollywod-esque drama is a solid way to make enough money to retire off of in less than 10 years.
>it's real in my mind
buddy you're such an amazing genius you should make one yourself and beat them at their own game! what's stopping you, they're just a bunch of norwegians.
Because what actually matters is being friends with high ranking military and government officials who get their buddy in to sell plastic toys for $200k. That's the hard part
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Anonymous
of course it does son, that's why a bunch of foriegners from a non-nato country managed to pull it off. i'm sure you've got a link for high-resolution miniture thermals with low energy usage from ali-express as well.
Its basically silent and weightless thermal vision drone. It has automatic and manual mode. Anyone can carry it and it can potentially save many soldiers. Price to train one soldier is much grater than 200k.
As for price of a drone they are hand made in norway and produced in limited portions.
startup costs
you spend 100 million developing it and 1 billion building the factory only to make 1000 of them? Yeah the unit cost is gonna be pretty high. Same reason ships like the LCS and Zumwalt ended up being so expensive, they were originally supposed to be made by the dozen.
>price gouging
Just a combination of corruption and laziness.
Half the people signing the requisitions are getting an industry job out of it down the line, the other half are simply lazy. They can get a machine shop to make a trash can, they can get get some offers from EE contractors to design in an alternative COTS filter ... but military is so used to wasting money they simply have no clue what things can cost if you're not completely moronic.
The thing might be actually decent but you could probably do something 90% as good at 10% of the price. Israel is using some very nice quadcopters for the same task, they are larger but not not by much and I bet they have longer flight time.
if they dont spend 500 billion this year, they wont get 500 billion next year.
probably costs in total, like 2 dollars, but they mark it up to artificially inflate their spending needs
capitalism
>Government corruption and cronyism is capitalism now
ok
>its not real capitalism!
what are you a fricking commie?
It's not though. Capitalism relies on the invisible hand of the market, and only very sparingly the heavy hand of the statute. The United States is very much a managed economy at this point.
I would called it socialism at this point. Old socialist regimes didn't have this amount of parasitism and regulations. We just have the internet now to distract us from reality but the government is more intrusive than ever before.
Americans are SLAVES lol
>Verification not required.
>The United States is very much a managed economy at this point.
It is. And it kind of has to be.
At some point we will have to stop lying to ourselves about this but it's a big hurdle.
>real capitalism has never been tried before!!!
Go ask the communists for more moronic copes you fricking cucks, this is literally the same shit they say when you point out all communisms ever invented end up in mass deaths.
But go on and say how your ideal world in a bubble is so possible and how you'd implement it if you were dictators.
>Go ask the communists
That's you.
It was tried, you fricking moron. It lead to the most prosperous and coveted nation to ever exist. Now it has been subverted. The New Deal was the beginning of the end for the US.
Are you baiting or moronic? The American government started implementing tariffs and subsidies almost as soon as it came into existence. It was never a completely free market.
It came pretty fricking close during the Jacksonian era
>Jackson didn't like the central bank so he was basically a libertarian
Jackson is the guy who pissed off the whole South by not revoking the tariff of abominations and started the whole process of continually selling out to big business over copyright. You are mental if you think he was "close" to creating some kind of ancap paradise
I'm not a purist
I don't recall ever even suggesting that it's never been tried. I just said that's not what we have now. You seem like a moron. Are you a moron?
I'm not going to claim no true Scotsman, but you really have to be a moron to call this capitalism. The only companies which have made money in the last two decades are government contractors
no u
You have never experienced a free market in your entire pathetic life.
the free market sounds good in theory but it doesnt work in practice
How would you know? You've never had the opportunity to experience one.
Government corruption is in the nature of capitalism. In the nature of communism as well. good luck trying to stop billionaire oligarchs from influencing your country to their own goals.
> tech
kek. no. its merely the ability to bilk the US tax payer for as much as the contractor can.
two financial techs from the 18th century: amortized r&d expenses, price-plus contracts
yiddish blood magik
I can get one on AliExpress for like 10$ max
That's where they buy the parts from. All they do is make a custom injection plastic mold for it and hype it up with a 5 minute long CGI trailer. Convincing career politicians with Hollywod-esque drama is a solid way to make enough money to retire off of in less than 10 years.
>it's real in my mind
buddy you're such an amazing genius you should make one yourself and beat them at their own game! what's stopping you, they're just a bunch of norwegians.
Because what actually matters is being friends with high ranking military and government officials who get their buddy in to sell plastic toys for $200k. That's the hard part
of course it does son, that's why a bunch of foriegners from a non-nato country managed to pull it off. i'm sure you've got a link for high-resolution miniture thermals with low energy usage from ali-express as well.
the technology of defense contracts
Its basically silent and weightless thermal vision drone. It has automatic and manual mode. Anyone can carry it and it can potentially save many soldiers. Price to train one soldier is much grater than 200k.
As for price of a drone they are hand made in norway and produced in limited portions.
>As for price of a drone they are hand made in norway and produced in limited portions.
Handmade using parts from Aliexpress.
>. Price to train one soldier is much grater than 200k.
Kek
startup costs
you spend 100 million developing it and 1 billion building the factory only to make 1000 of them? Yeah the unit cost is gonna be pretty high. Same reason ships like the LCS and Zumwalt ended up being so expensive, they were originally supposed to be made by the dozen.
Holy shit you sound like you worked on those programs.
it's just common sense
Injection olding is only cheap at a ridiculous scale, and only once you've got the very final version of a detail.
things can be stupid expensive once you leave being at economy-at-scale; Rolls-Royce as an example.
desparation
They have connections.
powerpoint
considering they're much more complicated than a trash can, I don't see the issue.
>price gouging
Just a combination of corruption and laziness.
Half the people signing the requisitions are getting an industry job out of it down the line, the other half are simply lazy. They can get a machine shop to make a trash can, they can get get some offers from EE contractors to design in an alternative COTS filter ... but military is so used to wasting money they simply have no clue what things can cost if you're not completely moronic.
Capitalism moment.
israeli marketing
The thing might be actually decent but you could probably do something 90% as good at 10% of the price. Israel is using some very nice quadcopters for the same task, they are larger but not not by much and I bet they have longer flight time.
idk
what made nsa omg cables worth 20k each?
soul
my mom gave me that for my birthday when i was 8
R&D combined with low production numbers
if they dont spend 500 billion this year, they wont get 500 billion next year.
probably costs in total, like 2 dollars, but they mark it up to artificially inflate their spending needs
yes its price is inflated but that also means they can pack it full of the best hardware/sensors and programmers, money can buy
NATO=CORRUPTION
Made in USA™
a 10-year support contract with an engineer with a top secret clearance on the telephone 24 hours a day.
https://www.amazon.com/Helicopter-Single-Rotor-Brushless-Military-Aircraft/dp/B0CBWLXJG4
>requires a smartphone and installing spyware app
Every time
>200k
per what? 10k of those things?