people have children when they feel safe and that their children have a future. The hellhole that is the USA does not provide its citizen with that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yeah no, birth rates are correlated with agriculture
2 years ago
Anonymous
>feel safe and that their children have a future
this logic is btfo'd by the fact the only place where people are having above replacment level birth rates are usually >gigashitholes >extremely dangerous areas >usually have both
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why are birthrates declining all over the world then? Why is it higher in Africa when that's a far worse shithole?
2 years ago
Anonymous
capitalism
Africa is better off in that regard because they're still fairly unaffected by the mind virus, at least mentally
they still suffer from it indirectly through the famines and the wars that it causes
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Why is it higher in Africa when that's a far worse shithole?
the same reason parts of africa have like 60% probability to catch HIV
The words you're looking for are "industrialization" and urbanization.
In cities, having children is a long-term investment, if youre feeling generous, or a liability if you're not. If you operate a farm, children become an extra set of hands that do something other then eat your money.
On a similar note, developed societies tend to require a higher level of specialization, which means more education, which means more money to invest in your children. Likewise, as land is at a premium in cities, simply owning or occupying a property in which to live, again, requires a greater investment.
As a consequence of this, urbanized societies generally have fewer children and marry later in life as they prioritize gaining education and amassing capital.
Look at China, for example. They went from an agrarian society to a more urbanized one in about 50 years. Compare that to the US which slowly transitioned over the course of 200 years.
Even without China's brain dead one child policy their population would have still crashed within a century or so just from that rapid swing from country living to being packed in dense cities.
Increasing childcare costs, sexual revolution of the 1960s and stagnant middle-class wages.
That said, the Baby Boom of the 50s and 60s was an aberration based on a deeply conservative generation who feared nuclear war, desperate to have families with a generous welfare state to help them.
Adding onto this, the decline of 1890-1940 was led mainly by increasing child health meaning families had less need to have 5-6 children just for 2 to make it to adulthood. That’s why population grew whilst TFR fell.
>Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran have collapsing birthrates
Both are muslim in name only. There is no such thing as an islamic country. All of them use western political structures and legall systems. Anything islamic is but a thin coat of paint
the more industrial and educated a nation gets, the less kids people have simply due to the fact having a few well off kids is far better than just shitting out 10 and hoping a few survive to work on the local farm with maybe one doing something more worthwhile
Capitalism. One man working used to support a full family of 4 with extra money for investment, education, and vacation. Never forget what they took from you.
the baby boom was manufactured and it was because of race relations
2 years ago
Anonymous
Right, brilliant.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What was one of the main problems facing people during the great depression, high quality housing shortages. All the major cities were flooded with blacks, puerto ricans, mexicans, italians and irish taking over neighborhoods and turning them into ghettos
>I seeno value in child raising. I'd like to impregnate women and leave.
The fact that more than just the one anon thinks like this shows you the implications of abortion bans. They know they can go around doing this and there's nothing the women can do about it because they will go to jail. Dark times.
>They know they can go around doing this and there's nothing the women can do about it because they will go to jail.
And then of course the anons themselves go to jail as well for unpaid child support payments.
Women especially white women care more about cumming their brains out than breeding with genetically prime men. Women in general only want genetically prime men to exist so filter most men this filter is done nearly 100 percent of time by the mans facial structure the other is the man's physical statute like heigt. This results in most women aiming for a minority of men. These men the Chads have always been ridiculously successful women so do not register any woman trying to get with them as all women are disposable frickholes to Chads because there is no woman other than a pure lesbian who can actually resist them. Most women are so narcissistic they cannot realize this though so waste their lives trying to pin down a Chad for the thrill of conquering a Chad, they dont want Chad as a husband because women are subhuman animals husband means sex is no longer animalistic and unpredictable. See actual married Chads being divorced by women to understand better. Anyways most women do this completely insane behavior then once they are in their 30s and Chad tells them to frick off because he aint sticking his dick in not attractive good, thats when women suddenly want to become wives and raise a family however if you do the reproductive math women in their 30s breeding is basically the same as a one year policy for women in their early 20s breeding. This results in each new generation of humans being vastly smaller than the less and with each new generation the females are more and more insane increasing the amount of women who never breed and barely breed.
So basically this is literally ALL WOMEN'S FAULT.
Urbanization and the housing market collapse. Having your own house is a requirement for starting a family. In the 1800 you could just build a house on some random stolen Indian land. Boomers could work for 5 years to make enough money to buy a house. Today, even getting a mortgage is out of reach for most young people.
>women join workforce because single earner can rarely raise a family >suddenly no time to raise family because both parents working >everyone encouraged to have a career or grind for 60 years to not end up homeless >when two people are well enough off to have a kid and not worry about the finances as much they're in their 30s
It's a combination of women focusing on careers and it being too expensive to have kids. Just make staying home and having kids more appealing to women than pursuing careers.
women joining the workforce and gaining rights
>women joining the workforce and gaining rights
This.
More like gaining weight
that's a phenomenon in the last 20-30 years, unless you're black and women have always been obese
Trannies unironically
Population growth
Capitalism
yup
>Industrialising shitholes in Siberia have higher TFR than American suburbs
truly…. the wonders of marxism
its simple really
people have children when they feel safe and that their children have a future. The hellhole that is the USA does not provide its citizen with that.
yeah no, birth rates are correlated with agriculture
>feel safe and that their children have a future
this logic is btfo'd by the fact the only place where people are having above replacment level birth rates are usually
>gigashitholes
>extremely dangerous areas
>usually have both
Why are birthrates declining all over the world then? Why is it higher in Africa when that's a far worse shithole?
capitalism
Africa is better off in that regard because they're still fairly unaffected by the mind virus, at least mentally
they still suffer from it indirectly through the famines and the wars that it causes
>Why is it higher in Africa when that's a far worse shithole?
the same reason parts of africa have like 60% probability to catch HIV
>Chronic depression
Lol
birth rate actually
This. In fact you can see the birth rates plummeting in Eastern Europe after 1989 for further proof.
The words you're looking for are "industrialization" and urbanization.
In cities, having children is a long-term investment, if youre feeling generous, or a liability if you're not. If you operate a farm, children become an extra set of hands that do something other then eat your money.
On a similar note, developed societies tend to require a higher level of specialization, which means more education, which means more money to invest in your children. Likewise, as land is at a premium in cities, simply owning or occupying a property in which to live, again, requires a greater investment.
As a consequence of this, urbanized societies generally have fewer children and marry later in life as they prioritize gaining education and amassing capital.
Look at China, for example. They went from an agrarian society to a more urbanized one in about 50 years. Compare that to the US which slowly transitioned over the course of 200 years.
Even without China's brain dead one child policy their population would have still crashed within a century or so just from that rapid swing from country living to being packed in dense cities.
Assbabies.
Increasing childcare costs, sexual revolution of the 1960s and stagnant middle-class wages.
That said, the Baby Boom of the 50s and 60s was an aberration based on a deeply conservative generation who feared nuclear war, desperate to have families with a generous welfare state to help them.
Adding onto this, the decline of 1890-1940 was led mainly by increasing child health meaning families had less need to have 5-6 children just for 2 to make it to adulthood. That’s why population grew whilst TFR fell.
>families had less need to have 5-6 children just for 2 to make it to adulthood
What? You think 80% of kids died before adulthood in 1890s USA?
Wages aren't stagnant and Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran have collapsing birthrates.
>Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran have collapsing birthrates
Both are muslim in name only. There is no such thing as an islamic country. All of them use western political structures and legall systems. Anything islamic is but a thin coat of paint
>Wages aren't stagnant
because they use literal slave labor, so there are no wages
>baby boomer's parents were ww2 and korean war veterans
Does ptsd makes you horny or something?
segregated suburbs allowed people to leave the cities and multiply
Having high testosterone does
the more industrial and educated a nation gets, the less kids people have simply due to the fact having a few well off kids is far better than just shitting out 10 and hoping a few survive to work on the local farm with maybe one doing something more worthwhile
social engineering
notice how all these trends baby boomers went full moron for
Capitalism. One man working used to support a full family of 4 with extra money for investment, education, and vacation. Never forget what they took from you.
Pic related.
>Verification not required.
That would be so comfy.
Actually, it's a consistent decline. Baby boomers are the weird blip.
The baby boom is such an aberration
Not really, if the baby boom didn't happen civil rights probably wouldn't have passed
How does that disprove that at all?
the baby boom was manufactured and it was because of race relations
Right, brilliant.
What was one of the main problems facing people during the great depression, high quality housing shortages. All the major cities were flooded with blacks, puerto ricans, mexicans, italians and irish taking over neighborhoods and turning them into ghettos
density, unironically.
>we went from 10 million people to 400 million why nobody make baby anymore!!!!!!
>UGGHH DEGENERACY
SHUT THE FRICK UP MIDWITS
moronic take and not an agrument , overpopulation is more concern problem than fertility rate
Just gib man nuff purchasing power + free time free of stress, simple as.
Also OP is obvs a gaygit
I seeno value in child raising. I'd like to impregnate women and leave.
>I seeno value in child raising. I'd like to impregnate women and leave.
The fact that more than just the one anon thinks like this shows you the implications of abortion bans. They know they can go around doing this and there's nothing the women can do about it because they will go to jail. Dark times.
>They know they can go around doing this and there's nothing the women can do about it because they will go to jail.
And then of course the anons themselves go to jail as well for unpaid child support payments.
Women especially white women care more about cumming their brains out than breeding with genetically prime men. Women in general only want genetically prime men to exist so filter most men this filter is done nearly 100 percent of time by the mans facial structure the other is the man's physical statute like heigt. This results in most women aiming for a minority of men. These men the Chads have always been ridiculously successful women so do not register any woman trying to get with them as all women are disposable frickholes to Chads because there is no woman other than a pure lesbian who can actually resist them. Most women are so narcissistic they cannot realize this though so waste their lives trying to pin down a Chad for the thrill of conquering a Chad, they dont want Chad as a husband because women are subhuman animals husband means sex is no longer animalistic and unpredictable. See actual married Chads being divorced by women to understand better. Anyways most women do this completely insane behavior then once they are in their 30s and Chad tells them to frick off because he aint sticking his dick in not attractive good, thats when women suddenly want to become wives and raise a family however if you do the reproductive math women in their 30s breeding is basically the same as a one year policy for women in their early 20s breeding. This results in each new generation of humans being vastly smaller than the less and with each new generation the females are more and more insane increasing the amount of women who never breed and barely breed.
So basically this is literally ALL WOMEN'S FAULT.
Doctor Decker's been going after filth making filth making filth
Urbanization. Just compare birth rates in cities compared to rural areas. Cities basically are sterilization zones.
what can't you do in cities genius
Urbanization and the housing market collapse. Having your own house is a requirement for starting a family. In the 1800 you could just build a house on some random stolen Indian land. Boomers could work for 5 years to make enough money to buy a house. Today, even getting a mortgage is out of reach for most young people.
>hey white people specifically, family bad
Women actually stopped being prostitutes apparently. Makes me think.
people stopped having half their children die from disease during infancy
>women join workforce because single earner can rarely raise a family
>suddenly no time to raise family because both parents working
>everyone encouraged to have a career or grind for 60 years to not end up homeless
>when two people are well enough off to have a kid and not worry about the finances as much they're in their 30s
farm equipment became accessible.
Capitalism, Feminism, no Islam
It's a combination of women focusing on careers and it being too expensive to have kids. Just make staying home and having kids more appealing to women than pursuing careers.