Mach was the only non-absurd unix design ever written before Linux stopped being total dogshit in the 2000s. By all internal accounts, the tech was simply there in NeXTSTEP and simply wasn't in BeOS and this was clear within the first few moments of both of their demos.
Oh boo hoo. He couldn't have made Tencent kind of money with that shit; the market was too young. And anyone seriously arguing that this ENABLED the phonegame market to be as shitty as it is rather than being an early predictor for it is not thinking logically.
>This shitty phone game that takes like 300 lines of code doesn't generate as much money as a company collaborating with a global economic superpower, LITERALLY useless!
There's rope on Amazon for $6 that works very well for killing yourself, moron.
>TFW you just found out flappy bird was a Chinese mobile game this entire time
Well now, that explains why the pipes look like the ones from the Mario series
gary kildall leaving any sort of say to his dumb c**t of a woman. (who divorced him a couple of years later)
and thus getting cucked by bill gates in the bid for IBM's new OS, to become ms-dos
>what was the dumbest decision you've seen in tech? >dumbest decision
the guy made millions of dollars. shut the frick up.
>gary kildall leaving any sort of say to his dumb c**t of a woman
she had nothing to do with it. microsoft and ibm were doing deals to try and cut cp/m out completely, but this "meeting" was always used as the excuse. ibm had no intention of ever delivering cp/m with any machines.
>she had nothing to do with it
This.
Also, why is everyone covering this story forgetting who Bill Gates mother was? She's most probably the main reason why ms got that deal
Bitcoin was an honest mistake. In the wake of 2008 people really did think that a democratized currency could solve the ills of old money. Everything after it, however...
Yeah, it would either be revolutionary or end up illegal. Remember beenz? The SEC had a heyday with him, so I don't blame whoever Satoshi is for being cautious.
Now that Bitcoin is huge(even considering the recent crash), Satoshi can profit like mad off of it so there is no reason for him to come forward
>In the wake of 2008 people really did think that a democratized currency could solve the ills of old money.
Privatisation isn't the same as democratisation. Fiat is arguably the most democratic currency in existence.
nuff said
Surely Nintendo not taking up Sony's offer is worse.
>Surely Nintendo not taking up Sony's offer is worse.
nintendo leaving the door open to the gaming industry for sony was a pretty fricking big oof on their part
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>nintendo leaving the door open to the gaming industry for sony was a pretty fricking big oof on their part
The worries over licensing agreements could have been handled better than just dropping the bomb on them after they had announced their partnership. Nintendo got what they deserved with Sony entering the market and the Philips shitting over their ip's on the CD-I
Bitcoin was an honest mistake. In the wake of 2008 people really did think that a democratized currency could solve the ills of old money. Everything after it, however...
Bitcoin was an honest mistake. In the wake of 2008 people really did think that a democratized currency could solve the ills of old money. Everything after it, however...
Isn't it weird how there are zero people who have made money off crypto and dislike blockchain tech, and there are also zero people who made no money off crypto and like blockchain tech?
I have never invested in crypto because I dislike it being used as a speculative asset, yet I still recognize how revolutionary it is and how much potential it has to change the world
most people wouldn't even care or notice it was an spa if clowns weren't picking terrible bloated tools for doing them and then dropping expected ui behavior on the floor rather than spending the small amount of time to do it right
This. There is a use case, like making a browser-based image editor like pixlr or something, but your stupid e-commerse site doesn't need to be one, nor does your app's landing page that just redirects to the app store.
Social media only exists as a consequence of advertising. If showing ads on a webpage wasn't a viable way to make a profit - it shouldn't be - then all the cancerous social websites on the web today would never have gotten off the ground.
Nintendo publicly stated that they weren't pressing charges. Being a non-native English speaker, he didn't understand the sarcasm and hyperbole of English-language social media, and he genuinely thought he was ruining lives with his game. Unfortunate, because my man had his very own money printer.
The Flappy Bird creator did the right thing for the time. Not because it was an "addictive product" but people were sending him death threats because they had their own addictive issues, and blamed him. Unfortunately when he took it down those death threats increased 10-fold. Thankfully most of that is behind him
>Be massive billion dollar corporation
Option A >spend millions in legal fees and PR for going after some literal who writing some shitty mobile shovelware in some jungle somewhere
Option B >We are a family friendly company and support our fans teehee >Pay some Yakuza teenager a couple thousand bucks to harass the guy
Gee real conundrum
To answer your question, I think it was Yahoo not buying Google. Yahoo dominated the search engine sector, and had they bought Google their biggest competitor would have been taken out. People would have ended up using their engine instead had they went forward with it.
For all of Google's privacy invasion issues though, I think we are better off for Yahoo being dumb about it. As bad as Google is, Yahoo is way worse simply because of that data leak a few years ago
1) Nearly everything developed during the dot com boom fiasco, like Netscape trying to make a client for every RFC. Just burning through money for no reason.
2) Last two Sega consoles
3) Moot banning goobergate because he was trying to simp a girl who cucked him
4) UNIX
5) Microsoft Bob
i think something like bob could work for tech illiterates if it was done well
I agree. Problem is this one wasn't done well. The design was too confusing, and sometimes it is best to just hand a guy a manual and point him in the right direction
Name the better systems and why they are better, or gtfo
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http://web.mit.edu/~simsong/www/ugh.pdf
UNIX toolchain blows. UNIX chaining small apps blows (debug shit via logs is considered normal these days). UNIX culture of cobbling together something that barely works blows. C blows.
The only reason UNIX succeeded is middle management liked buying cheap Sparc boxes and forcing programmers to get the shit boxes to work. Everyone and their mom was coming out with a microprocessor which was absolutely useless without an OS, and UNIX was free and easy to port.
UNIX was one big, fat mistake and seemingly one we'll be paying for, for fricking ever.
2 years ago
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You think Im reading that entire PDF to get your point? Just tell me what operating systems you thought were better. Otherwise I will only assume that you are a parrot
2 years ago
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Frick you lazy Black person. TOPS-10/20, VMS, LISP machines, etc. Practically everything was better. No, I won't spoon feed you. Read the pamphlet
2 years ago
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>read an entire book of unhinged ranting about a topic very few morons get because you are too lazy to express your own thoughts and reasoning
Caw Caw parrot
2 years ago
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not him but VMS was unironically better, the unixes didn't catch up to what VMS was doing in 1978 until the fricking 2000s
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To be fair, VMS had some serious fricking money behind it, and was centralized unlike the fragmented efforts of the various *nixs so there wasn't time/effort being wasted reinventing the wheel over and over.
2 years ago
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99% of that shit is BSD-tardary
2 years ago
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You are a dumb troon trooning out at White Man's Operating System
Dilate and have a nice day LISPtroony
2 years ago
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>https://tldp.org/LDP/LG/issue22/haters.html
Cope the book
2 years ago
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http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=538
This forever kills the Unix haters handbook shill.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anyone know what ESR is up to these days? He stopped blogging in the months leading up to the 2020 election, and hasn't returned since.
2 years ago
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>in today’s environment of Linuxes wrapped in rather slick GUIs
Is this guy for real?
2 years ago
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LOL, found a 12yr old reply of mine.
Nothing has changed. It still sucks
2 years ago
Anonymous
From: [email protected]
Date:
Tue, 15 Mar 1994 00:38:07 EST
Subject: anti-foreword
To the contributers to this book:
I have succumbed to the temptation you offered in your preface: I do
write you off as envious malcontents and romantic keepers of memo-
ries. The systems you remember so fondly (TOPS-20, ITS, Multics,
Lisp Machine, Cedar/Mesa, the Dorado) are not just out to pasture,
they are fertilizing it from below.
Your judgments are not keen, they are intoxicated by metaphor. In
the Preface you suffer first from heat, lice, and malnourishment, then
become prisoners in a Gulag. In Chapter 1 you are in turn infected by
a virus, racked by drug addiction, and addled by puffiness of the
genome.
Yet your prison without coherent design continues to imprison you.
How can this be, if it has no strong places? The rational prisoner
exploits the weak places, creates order from chaos: instead, collec-
tives like the FSF vindicate their jailers by building cells almost com-
patible with the existing ones, albeit with more features. The
journalist with three undergraduate degrees from MIT, the researcher
at Microsoft, and the senior scientist at Apple might volunteer a few
words about the regulations of the prisons to which they have been
transferred.
Your sense of the possible is in no sense pure: sometimes you want
the same thing you have, but wish you had done it yourselves; other
times you want something different, but can't seem to get people to
use it; sometimes one wonders why you just don't shut up and tell
people to buy a PC with Windows or a Mac. No Gulag or lice, just a
future whose intellectual tone and interaction style is set by Sonic the
Hedgehog. You claim to seek progress, but you succeed mainly in
whining.
Here is my metaphor: your book is a pudding stuffed with apposite
observations, many well-conceived. Like excrement, it contains
enough undigested nuggets of nutrition to sustain life for some. But
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Anonymous
It is not a tasty pie: it reeks too much of contempt and envy.
Bon appetit!
2 years ago
Anonymous
Imagine being such a submidwit that you dedicate pages to talking about wildcard expansion. >bruh what if I type rm *>o instead of rm *.o
Idk dude why not just make a script, or look at the command before you press enter?
or someone complining about typing
rm -rf /bin
forgetting a period ./bin
This is just proof that only morons hate unix.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Stringing programs together with byte streams just sucks. Doing so programmatically not only allows for types but also a backtrace. Debugging problems the UNIX was is a nightmare
The utter homosexualry of copyright law and patent law is impossible to overstate.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not all countries enforce software parents. The death of this empire may bear fruit for humanity
2 years ago
Anonymous
You guys are gays.
Why would anyone invent anything if a corporation can just take it for free?
2 years ago
Anonymous
LOL patents were created for and are used by corporations to stifle competition. How the hell do you not know this?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Copyright is fine but patents are moronic.
Copyright means you can't just outright copy someone's work.
Patents mean if someone spend 30 seconds on a an idea nobody can use that idea without paying millions to some no-effort hack.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Copyright law has been expanded beyond all reason. Look at fricking Disney. HK used to have a 10yr copyright but were strong-armed by the US into accepting 50yr and now fricking limitless
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can't sell products with Mickey Mouse on it, that makes sense because someone else created that particular mouse character.
But it would be dumb in all drawings of mouse characters were banned because someone patented the entire idea.
Then even Walt Disney would not be allowed to draw a Mickey Mouse because no doubt someone else came up with the general idea centuries before he did.
In fact, patents can potentially make every product illegal because someone can always patent the general idea.
2 years ago
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Arguing parents are worse isn't an argument for copyrights
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Consider you can't even print a WYSIWYG document without the proper font. Notice how Apple and MS made a deal where they could use each other's standard fonts. Can anyone compete with either OS under that agreement?
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No effort hack?
Do you know how stringent the requirements for patents are?
The only problem with patents is that theyre expensive.
Btw if china was ever no longer able to steal intellectual property from some pther country youd see them respecting and enforcing intellectual property all of the sudden.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why the hell would we want them respecting or enforcing parents? We're already anti-patents. You're arguing with your dad
2 years ago
Anonymous
>We're already anti-patents >defending proprietary software like TOPS-10/20
Only IQfy
2 years ago
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Riddle me this, would have the shit show known as UNIX succeed if TOPS -20 wasn't proprietary?
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Nah. Reading the documentation for TOPS, looks like it was a real piece of shit.
2 years ago
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>Do you know how stringent the requirements for patents are?
Watch my video.
Richard Feynman came up with a dozen or so ideas in 5 minutes and received 2 patents for it.
He just said "nuclear propelled airplane" and got the patent for it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That literally a special case, you scum frick Black person.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That was the gayest comments section I have ever read
2 years ago
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>Patents mean if someone spend 30 seconds on a an idea nobody can use that idea without paying millions to some no-effort hack.
Shopping, BUT ONLINE. ONE CLICK CHECKOUT. Somone had the patent for the hyperlink, you are all in violation and must shekel up
back then it was a bad things for games to be addictive now everything is as greedy as possible and tries to manipulate you to spend as much time as possible. Something like LoL is supposed to be addictive, it's designed to be a fricking drug
t. spent 5 years of life just playing league and managed to quit
You fa/g/s missed the part where the creator of flappy bird was a vietnamese kid who didn't really understand English that well. so he took many of the negative posts and DMs about the game from morons seriously. Shit like, dude your game got me fired from work, made me drop out of school, I don't do anything else but play it, all sorts of nonsense. He was of course overwhelmed by the toxicity brought upon all this stupid shit (which he didn't understand were mainly/mostly jokes). It's really a surprise he didn't an hero at the time.
Somehow a tech company that excels at making gadgets with excellent UI and carefully considered design managed to make THE WORST tv remote in history. It's just embarrassingly inept. It's pretty clear that nobody at Apple actually watches tv or else they'd have figured it out within an hour.
>There's way worse, like that see through hockey puck mouse apple had
Apple would occasionally do dumb things in a misguided, autistic quest for minimalism and appliance-like simplicity. This is not that. This is them just not sufficiently dogfooding their own product.
The modern way of industrial design is to make something that looks good, but function wise has imperfections that you fix in the next version of the product.
How many apple TVs would you sell if you would make a perfect/no-isssue one from the get go? Just one. How many would you sell if you leave potential for improvement? As many as you want.
They didn't sell more Apple TVs because of this shitty remote and instead ended up offering a completely revised model for $50. The reason the remote is the way it is is because it's one of those things that seems really cool as a demonstration but has shit real world usability. Once you buy the thing and start using it you find that out. #1 rules of tv remotes and game controllers is they need to be clobber-proof and that's why touch technology is so problematic and why its gets scaled back dramatically with the revision, which Apple didn't seem to realize until 3rd parties started successfully selling their own remotes for the Apple TV.
FWIW the actual Apple TV itself is fantastic and they've sold me several, but I upgraded more recently because of 4K and Homekit, not to fix something they fricked up. You're right about the room for improvement generally, though.
The modern way of industrial design is to make something that looks good, but function wise has imperfections that you fix in the next version of the product.
How many apple TVs would you sell if you would make a perfect/no-isssue one from the get go? Just one. How many would you sell if you leave potential for improvement? As many as you want.
he removed it because he was getting sued by nintendo (asset stealing) and apple
he found a way to trick the appstore rating system to get him to top 1 postition in every country for a short period of time
and because people are sheeps the downloads skyrocketed.
he tricked the system made millions and disapeared when shit got hot.
Hes smarter than no one here will ever be
windows 8, 10 and now especially 11
subscriptions turning into cable packages which they had all but destroyed
the fricking eu having better consumer protections than basically anywhere else
literally every single tech company hiring pajeet ceos and ccp engineers and troony programmers then wondering why everything goes to absolute shit
>The Ouya
I got one of these with 2 controllers and SD card for like $15 on clearance at Best Buy back in like 2015, other than the controllers being shit it was a decent MAME and Kodi box
>the Juicero
They weren't making a bad product that they actually believed in. That gay "smart" press was irrelevant. They were trying to "disrupt" food with tech bullshit and assumed all the right people would realize that and back the company at which point they'd pivot to what they're really about, which is DRMing all processed food.
>the Juicero
They weren't making a bad product that they actually believed in. That gay "smart" press was irrelevant. They were trying to "disrupt" food with tech bullshit and assumed all the right people would realize that and back the company at which point they'd pivot to what they're really about, which is DRMing all processed food.
Juicero founder was a legit schizzo. When they had a roach infestation he forbade gassing them and his San Francisco paid employees had to capture the bugs by hand and release them alive outside.
Don't know why this is dumb. He was clearly autistic and wasn't dealing well with the stress of the success of the game. Pulling it was the healthiest option for him. He also make a few $M. IQfy could do with looking up to him.
The mass adoption of web 'apps' that are just platform-specific chromium/webkit shims wrapped into a bloated executable instead of a sane, open cross-platform standard for mobile pages to just behave as apps.
The flappy bird creator has to be one of the dumbest people to get ever grace technology.
He was an overnight success, making exorbitant amounts of money every single day, which is a once in a billion chance for most people, and he decided to throw it all away because he was being judged by his family and friends, and thought that the game was contributing to unhealthy phone habits.
Even the biggest brainlets in the world knew that phone habits were not going to change whatsoever, and that by shutting the game down he cut off his nose to spite his face.
I want to know where he is today. Did he commit suicide? To be given such a gift and to recklessly throw it away... what a complete moron.
>what was the dumbest decision you've seen in tech?
Not the dumbest, but pretty dumb either way was Groupon refusing a billion dollar buyout from Google thinking they were under evaluated
His name leaked and he became a celebrity, complete with having a paparazzi taking pictures of him in his kitchen through a window. It wasn't "dumb". He was horrified by how the internet blew up his name and he was becoming a target of harassment. Ffs Fox ran a story on the game about how it was killing kid's grades in school
Apple not buying Be and instead spending double to buy one of the worst kernel designs of the 1980s and a mediocre Unix userland.
Be declined Apple's offer.
They should've offered more.
What's Be?
a defunct computer company
Mach was the only non-absurd unix design ever written before Linux stopped being total dogshit in the 2000s. By all internal accounts, the tech was simply there in NeXTSTEP and simply wasn't in BeOS and this was clear within the first few moments of both of their demos.
Allowing you on IQfy
OP deciding to post this is on the top 10 for sure
Oh boo hoo. He couldn't have made Tencent kind of money with that shit; the market was too young. And anyone seriously arguing that this ENABLED the phonegame market to be as shitty as it is rather than being an early predictor for it is not thinking logically.
>2014
>early predictor
phonegame market was aids from day 1.
>comparing a single developer to some state backed company
kys moron
Maybe not, but he was making $50,000 per day. I can't even fathom earning that kind of money.
Man...18,250,000 a year. I need to think up some mobile games
Brainlet
Iphone released in 2006 zoomie.
2007"
>This shitty phone game that takes like 300 lines of code doesn't generate as much money as a company collaborating with a global economic superpower, LITERALLY useless!
There's rope on Amazon for $6 that works very well for killing yourself, moron.
>TFW you just found out flappy bird was a Chinese mobile game this entire time
Well now, that explains why the pipes look like the ones from the Mario series
gary kildall leaving any sort of say to his dumb c**t of a woman. (who divorced him a couple of years later)
and thus getting cucked by bill gates in the bid for IBM's new OS, to become ms-dos
>what was the dumbest decision you've seen in tech?
>dumbest decision
the guy made millions of dollars. shut the frick up.
>gary kildall leaving any sort of say to his dumb c**t of a woman
she had nothing to do with it. microsoft and ibm were doing deals to try and cut cp/m out completely, but this "meeting" was always used as the excuse. ibm had no intention of ever delivering cp/m with any machines.
>she had nothing to do with it
This.
Also, why is everyone covering this story forgetting who Bill Gates mother was? She's most probably the main reason why ms got that deal
Yahoo not buying Google for a million dollerinos
Bitcoin and the stupid shit it spawned
Bitcoin was an honest mistake. In the wake of 2008 people really did think that a democratized currency could solve the ills of old money. Everything after it, however...
it was cool at the time. I don't blame him for dropping off the face of the earth.
Yeah, it would either be revolutionary or end up illegal. Remember beenz? The SEC had a heyday with him, so I don't blame whoever Satoshi is for being cautious.
Now that Bitcoin is huge(even considering the recent crash), Satoshi can profit like mad off of it so there is no reason for him to come forward
>In the wake of 2008 people really did think that a democratized currency could solve the ills of old money.
Privatisation isn't the same as democratisation. Fiat is arguably the most democratic currency in existence.
Surely Nintendo not taking up Sony's offer is worse.
>Surely Nintendo not taking up Sony's offer is worse.
nintendo leaving the door open to the gaming industry for sony was a pretty fricking big oof on their part
>nintendo leaving the door open to the gaming industry for sony was a pretty fricking big oof on their part
The worries over licensing agreements could have been handled better than just dropping the bomb on them after they had announced their partnership. Nintendo got what they deserved with Sony entering the market and the Philips shitting over their ip's on the CD-I
>Das rite. I don't trust magic internet money. I put muh faith in the GUBERMINT
Eat shit troony bootlicker
Dilate trannies. Chain block is revolutionary
Oh boy, I can't wait to lose all my money to linked lists
cope and seethe
Isn't it weird how there are zero people who have made money off crypto and dislike blockchain tech, and there are also zero people who made no money off crypto and like blockchain tech?
there's also people who have made *less* than zero money and really really like it, or at least you would think that if you listen to their copes
I have never invested in crypto because I dislike it being used as a speculative asset, yet I still recognize how revolutionary it is and how much potential it has to change the world
flatshit, spa websites, security shilling
everything that killed Internet
advertising is what killed the internet, anon
also, forgot that
Spas are fine. The issue is turning everything into one
most people wouldn't even care or notice it was an spa if clowns weren't picking terrible bloated tools for doing them and then dropping expected ui behavior on the floor rather than spending the small amount of time to do it right
This. There is a use case, like making a browser-based image editor like pixlr or something, but your stupid e-commerse site doesn't need to be one, nor does your app's landing page that just redirects to the app store.
SPA's are actually great.
Wish IQfy was an SPA instead of having to re-load the thread to see new posts.
IQfy only hates because she uses outdated hardware and a slow internet connection because he's a broke ass NEET.
>having to re-load the thread to see new posts
There is an auto update
Works even better with IQfy-x
This. Properly made SPA is always better user experience and faster to navigate than shitty reload whole site on every link legacy pages.
IQfy full of neets who are mad they don't know how to make proper websites.
You forgot social media and crowd funding
Social media only exists as a consequence of advertising. If showing ads on a webpage wasn't a viable way to make a profit - it shouldn't be - then all the cancerous social websites on the web today would never have gotten off the ground.
More likely, he was threaten by his government or Nintendo off the books.
>Nintendo
that was just an unfounded rumor
Nintendo publicly stated that they weren't pressing charges. Being a non-native English speaker, he didn't understand the sarcasm and hyperbole of English-language social media, and he genuinely thought he was ruining lives with his game. Unfortunate, because my man had his very own money printer.
>he genuinely thought he was ruining lives with his game
see this is a disorder we in Israel like to call being a goy
You can't blame him. He lives under a totalitarian regime.
We have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity, it's called Xbox 360
>do a 360 and walk away
faceberg being pumped over $1 trillion market cap
>dong
yes, he is
Where my temple run homies at
Probably Windows 8 and to a lesser extent 10, trying to shoehorn tablet and then phone OSes into a desktop os didn't work well
Mass adoption of ALGOL-derived languages over Lisps and Smalltalk.
Nintendo allowing Sony to have access to their tech for the Super Nes CD add on
The Flappy Bird creator did the right thing for the time. Not because it was an "addictive product" but people were sending him death threats because they had their own addictive issues, and blamed him. Unfortunately when he took it down those death threats increased 10-fold. Thankfully most of that is behind him
Nah idiot, it was because he was using Super Mario assets, so he probably was legally threatened by Nintendo and decided to pull the game out.
Nintendo literally said they didn't care. It was death threats.
And you believe Nintendo ?
>Flappy bird ruined my life
Seems like he ruined his own life because he was too autistic to deal with success.
He was making 300k USD a month during the peak, BTW.
>Be massive billion dollar corporation
Option A
>spend millions in legal fees and PR for going after some literal who writing some shitty mobile shovelware in some jungle somewhere
Option B
>We are a family friendly company and support our fans teehee
>Pay some Yakuza teenager a couple thousand bucks to harass the guy
Gee real conundrum
To answer your question, I think it was Yahoo not buying Google. Yahoo dominated the search engine sector, and had they bought Google their biggest competitor would have been taken out. People would have ended up using their engine instead had they went forward with it.
For all of Google's privacy invasion issues though, I think we are better off for Yahoo being dumb about it. As bad as Google is, Yahoo is way worse simply because of that data leak a few years ago
1) Nearly everything developed during the dot com boom fiasco, like Netscape trying to make a client for every RFC. Just burning through money for no reason.
2) Last two Sega consoles
3) Moot banning goobergate because he was trying to simp a girl who cucked him
4) UNIX
5) Microsoft Bob
i think something like bob could work for tech illiterates if it was done well
>unix
shit b8
I agree. Problem is this one wasn't done well. The design was too confusing, and sometimes it is best to just hand a guy a manual and point him in the right direction
Better systems predated UNIX. UNIX succeeded as a virus because it was free and easy to port
Name the better systems and why they are better, or gtfo
http://web.mit.edu/~simsong/www/ugh.pdf
UNIX toolchain blows. UNIX chaining small apps blows (debug shit via logs is considered normal these days). UNIX culture of cobbling together something that barely works blows. C blows.
The only reason UNIX succeeded is middle management liked buying cheap Sparc boxes and forcing programmers to get the shit boxes to work. Everyone and their mom was coming out with a microprocessor which was absolutely useless without an OS, and UNIX was free and easy to port.
UNIX was one big, fat mistake and seemingly one we'll be paying for, for fricking ever.
You think Im reading that entire PDF to get your point? Just tell me what operating systems you thought were better. Otherwise I will only assume that you are a parrot
Frick you lazy Black person. TOPS-10/20, VMS, LISP machines, etc. Practically everything was better. No, I won't spoon feed you. Read the pamphlet
>read an entire book of unhinged ranting about a topic very few morons get because you are too lazy to express your own thoughts and reasoning
Caw Caw parrot
not him but VMS was unironically better, the unixes didn't catch up to what VMS was doing in 1978 until the fricking 2000s
To be fair, VMS had some serious fricking money behind it, and was centralized unlike the fragmented efforts of the various *nixs so there wasn't time/effort being wasted reinventing the wheel over and over.
99% of that shit is BSD-tardary
You are a dumb troon trooning out at White Man's Operating System
Dilate and have a nice day LISPtroony
>https://tldp.org/LDP/LG/issue22/haters.html
Cope the book
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=538
This forever kills the Unix haters handbook shill.
Anyone know what ESR is up to these days? He stopped blogging in the months leading up to the 2020 election, and hasn't returned since.
>in today’s environment of Linuxes wrapped in rather slick GUIs
Is this guy for real?
LOL, found a 12yr old reply of mine.
Nothing has changed. It still sucks
From:
[email protected]
Date:
Tue, 15 Mar 1994 00:38:07 EST
Subject: anti-foreword
To the contributers to this book:
I have succumbed to the temptation you offered in your preface: I do
write you off as envious malcontents and romantic keepers of memo-
ries. The systems you remember so fondly (TOPS-20, ITS, Multics,
Lisp Machine, Cedar/Mesa, the Dorado) are not just out to pasture,
they are fertilizing it from below.
Your judgments are not keen, they are intoxicated by metaphor. In
the Preface you suffer first from heat, lice, and malnourishment, then
become prisoners in a Gulag. In Chapter 1 you are in turn infected by
a virus, racked by drug addiction, and addled by puffiness of the
genome.
Yet your prison without coherent design continues to imprison you.
How can this be, if it has no strong places? The rational prisoner
exploits the weak places, creates order from chaos: instead, collec-
tives like the FSF vindicate their jailers by building cells almost com-
patible with the existing ones, albeit with more features. The
journalist with three undergraduate degrees from MIT, the researcher
at Microsoft, and the senior scientist at Apple might volunteer a few
words about the regulations of the prisons to which they have been
transferred.
Your sense of the possible is in no sense pure: sometimes you want
the same thing you have, but wish you had done it yourselves; other
times you want something different, but can't seem to get people to
use it; sometimes one wonders why you just don't shut up and tell
people to buy a PC with Windows or a Mac. No Gulag or lice, just a
future whose intellectual tone and interaction style is set by Sonic the
Hedgehog. You claim to seek progress, but you succeed mainly in
whining.
Here is my metaphor: your book is a pudding stuffed with apposite
observations, many well-conceived. Like excrement, it contains
enough undigested nuggets of nutrition to sustain life for some. But
It is not a tasty pie: it reeks too much of contempt and envy.
Bon appetit!
Imagine being such a submidwit that you dedicate pages to talking about wildcard expansion.
>bruh what if I type rm *>o instead of rm *.o
Idk dude why not just make a script, or look at the command before you press enter?
or someone complining about typing
rm -rf /bin
forgetting a period ./bin
This is just proof that only morons hate unix.
Stringing programs together with byte streams just sucks. Doing so programmatically not only allows for types but also a backtrace. Debugging problems the UNIX was is a nightmare
The utter homosexualry of copyright law and patent law is impossible to overstate.
Not all countries enforce software parents. The death of this empire may bear fruit for humanity
You guys are gays.
Why would anyone invent anything if a corporation can just take it for free?
LOL patents were created for and are used by corporations to stifle competition. How the hell do you not know this?
Copyright is fine but patents are moronic.
Copyright means you can't just outright copy someone's work.
Patents mean if someone spend 30 seconds on a an idea nobody can use that idea without paying millions to some no-effort hack.
Copyright law has been expanded beyond all reason. Look at fricking Disney. HK used to have a 10yr copyright but were strong-armed by the US into accepting 50yr and now fricking limitless
You can't sell products with Mickey Mouse on it, that makes sense because someone else created that particular mouse character.
But it would be dumb in all drawings of mouse characters were banned because someone patented the entire idea.
Then even Walt Disney would not be allowed to draw a Mickey Mouse because no doubt someone else came up with the general idea centuries before he did.
In fact, patents can potentially make every product illegal because someone can always patent the general idea.
Arguing parents are worse isn't an argument for copyrights
Consider you can't even print a WYSIWYG document without the proper font. Notice how Apple and MS made a deal where they could use each other's standard fonts. Can anyone compete with either OS under that agreement?
No effort hack?
Do you know how stringent the requirements for patents are?
The only problem with patents is that theyre expensive.
Btw if china was ever no longer able to steal intellectual property from some pther country youd see them respecting and enforcing intellectual property all of the sudden.
Why the hell would we want them respecting or enforcing parents? We're already anti-patents. You're arguing with your dad
>We're already anti-patents
>defending proprietary software like TOPS-10/20
Only IQfy
Riddle me this, would have the shit show known as UNIX succeed if TOPS -20 wasn't proprietary?
Nah. Reading the documentation for TOPS, looks like it was a real piece of shit.
>Do you know how stringent the requirements for patents are?
Watch my video.
Richard Feynman came up with a dozen or so ideas in 5 minutes and received 2 patents for it.
He just said "nuclear propelled airplane" and got the patent for it.
That literally a special case, you scum frick Black person.
That was the gayest comments section I have ever read
>Patents mean if someone spend 30 seconds on a an idea nobody can use that idea without paying millions to some no-effort hack.
Shopping, BUT ONLINE. ONE CLICK CHECKOUT. Somone had the patent for the hyperlink, you are all in violation and must shekel up
back then it was a bad things for games to be addictive now everything is as greedy as possible and tries to manipulate you to spend as much time as possible. Something like LoL is supposed to be addictive, it's designed to be a fricking drug
t. spent 5 years of life just playing league and managed to quit
league is not designed to be a drug.
Gachas are.
Blizzard missing out on DOTA
Related: recent oxford style debate on IP
This guy has an whole exodia of mistakes in his deck.
But there's the RCA shit too, at a point i'm pretty sure aperture science is based on it.
>he doesn't know
You fa/g/s missed the part where the creator of flappy bird was a vietnamese kid who didn't really understand English that well. so he took many of the negative posts and DMs about the game from morons seriously. Shit like, dude your game got me fired from work, made me drop out of school, I don't do anything else but play it, all sorts of nonsense. He was of course overwhelmed by the toxicity brought upon all this stupid shit (which he didn't understand were mainly/mostly jokes). It's really a surprise he didn't an hero at the time.
http, html, css and js used beyond web 1.0
Microsoft Kin or Microsoft Zune or Windonws phone
Somehow a tech company that excels at making gadgets with excellent UI and carefully considered design managed to make THE WORST tv remote in history. It's just embarrassingly inept. It's pretty clear that nobody at Apple actually watches tv or else they'd have figured it out within an hour.
The new one is better but it's still missing skip track buttons which just baffles me.
to skip track you just push and hold the volume up button...
not a big deal
wait what?
fricking apple god damnit
There's way worse, like that see through hockey puck mouse apple had
>There's way worse, like that see through hockey puck mouse apple had
Apple would occasionally do dumb things in a misguided, autistic quest for minimalism and appliance-like simplicity. This is not that. This is them just not sufficiently dogfooding their own product.
They didn't sell more Apple TVs because of this shitty remote and instead ended up offering a completely revised model for $50. The reason the remote is the way it is is because it's one of those things that seems really cool as a demonstration but has shit real world usability. Once you buy the thing and start using it you find that out. #1 rules of tv remotes and game controllers is they need to be clobber-proof and that's why touch technology is so problematic and why its gets scaled back dramatically with the revision, which Apple didn't seem to realize until 3rd parties started successfully selling their own remotes for the Apple TV.
FWIW the actual Apple TV itself is fantastic and they've sold me several, but I upgraded more recently because of 4K and Homekit, not to fix something they fricked up. You're right about the room for improvement generally, though.
The modern way of industrial design is to make something that looks good, but function wise has imperfections that you fix in the next version of the product.
How many apple TVs would you sell if you would make a perfect/no-isssue one from the get go? Just one. How many would you sell if you leave potential for improvement? As many as you want.
>chinks lack empa-
Working in legal.
This chapter will soon be over.
he removed it because he was getting sued by nintendo (asset stealing) and apple
he found a way to trick the appstore rating system to get him to top 1 postition in every country for a short period of time
and because people are sheeps the downloads skyrocketed.
he tricked the system made millions and disapeared when shit got hot.
Hes smarter than no one here will ever be
He never got sued, and he swapped in new artwork once the game started getting popular.
Reiser killing his wife.
windows 8, 10 and now especially 11
subscriptions turning into cable packages which they had all but destroyed
the fricking eu having better consumer protections than basically anywhere else
literally every single tech company hiring pajeet ceos and ccp engineers and troony programmers then wondering why everything goes to absolute shit
The Ouya
Special mention to the Juicero
>The Ouya
I got one of these with 2 controllers and SD card for like $15 on clearance at Best Buy back in like 2015, other than the controllers being shit it was a decent MAME and Kodi box
>the Juicero
They weren't making a bad product that they actually believed in. That gay "smart" press was irrelevant. They were trying to "disrupt" food with tech bullshit and assumed all the right people would realize that and back the company at which point they'd pivot to what they're really about, which is DRMing all processed food.
Juicero founder was a legit schizzo. When they had a roach infestation he forbade gassing them and his San Francisco paid employees had to capture the bugs by hand and release them alive outside.
ouya? ara-ara~
Don't know why this is dumb. He was clearly autistic and wasn't dealing well with the stress of the success of the game. Pulling it was the healthiest option for him. He also make a few $M. IQfy could do with looking up to him.
nuff said
I have absolutely no idea what this is referring to.
Sega Saturn. Go google "sega playstion 299", Sony wrecked Sega's shit at an old E3
Hardly that big a frick-up as tech failures go. SS did quite well in Japan. Sony had soundly outcompeted them though of course.
>what was the dumbest decision you've seen in tech?
Pic related. I'd probably still be using windows if Bill hadn't killed it.
It was slow as frick, like a lot of pre-reset vista tech. Some of the work done on it made its way to ReFS.
>WinFS
I too dream of having the windows registry as my file system
WinFS wasn't even a file system, it was just a metadata layer on top of NTFS to make a pseudo "flat" filesystem in the perspective of the user....
The mass adoption of web 'apps' that are just platform-specific chromium/webkit shims wrapped into a bloated executable instead of a sane, open cross-platform standard for mobile pages to just behave as apps.
Nothing dumb about this at all. In fact it's usually the only sane option for serious cross platform development.
I thought it was because he got copyright claimed by Nintendo.
crypto
>Putting ethics above profit
He's based
He's redpilled
And OP's a fricking homosexual.
Fat Sweden notched moron sold minecraft to microshaft
And became a billionaire, how was that a bad decision?
Checking in on this
WTF. Checked
forgot pic
WTF
>checking in
you can say that again
holy
Witnessed
put me in the screenshot
Shut the frick up.
holy moly
The flappy bird creator has to be one of the dumbest people to get ever grace technology.
He was an overnight success, making exorbitant amounts of money every single day, which is a once in a billion chance for most people, and he decided to throw it all away because he was being judged by his family and friends, and thought that the game was contributing to unhealthy phone habits.
Even the biggest brainlets in the world knew that phone habits were not going to change whatsoever, and that by shutting the game down he cut off his nose to spite his face.
I want to know where he is today. Did he commit suicide? To be given such a gift and to recklessly throw it away... what a complete moron.
He now just makes more shitty phone games and uses the remaining flappy bird money to give to random scholarships in his hometown
The FSF refusing to accept Apple's offer of maintaining a GPL'd LLVM because of "not made here" syndrome as Phoronix puts it
Letting women and trannies in to the linux foundation
He was forced to do so by the Vietnamese government
>what was the dumbest decision you've seen in tech?
Not the dumbest, but pretty dumb either way was Groupon refusing a billion dollar buyout from Google thinking they were under evaluated
Dropping Gnome 2
Me buying a gaming laptop was the worst decision any person involved in tech ever made.
Me buying a "virtual analog" synth instead of a midi controller and using VSTs.
His name leaked and he became a celebrity, complete with having a paparazzi taking pictures of him in his kitchen through a window. It wasn't "dumb". He was horrified by how the internet blew up his name and he was becoming a target of harassment. Ffs Fox ran a story on the game about how it was killing kid's grades in school
C++.
Not really a decision, but Lisp Machines being displaced by UNIX. See ugh.pdf for contemporary perspectives on this.
Forgetting how much of it came from national labs, military and defence adjacent projects.
didn't the dude abuse Google play/App Store, and then, shitting himself, deleted the game?
eh? it wasn't because nintendo sent assassins for his head?