what went so wrong with latin america? no cope answers like muh geography, US intervention or being extractive colonies as opposed to settler colonies please.
what went so wrong with latin america?
what went so wrong with latin america? no cope answers like muh geography, US intervention or being extractive colonies as opposed to settler colonies please.
Those are all valid answers
yeah I mean you cannot blame it all on that, but they definitely are factors.
See archive, the mods deleted all the real replies to the thread so the site can stay moronic.
I sometimes feel the urge to dedicate a 15 minutes writing to this kind of threads.
But it mostly derails into Anglo Protestant supremacists shitting all over my text and never actually being willing to even consider my points.
homie if you start the thread barring certain viewpoints, you're basically putting the fingers into your ears and screaming out loud
it's hot as frick and the women have huge asses and breasts so people just want to frick and sleep in the shade all day
It's literally muh geography tho.
A centralized state literally couldn't reach because the most isolated and distant settlements so poverty & organized crime festered there as the capital and surrounding cities developed. Eventually it paved the way for uncontrollable widespread corruption spreading both from outside in and inside out.
Completely and utterly moronic corrupt political elites and intellectuals
They inherited a semi-feudal pseudo-aristocracy that turned their states into private plantations. They made every wrong gamble in the economy that you could make.
>They made every wrong gamble in the economy that you could make
such as?
Most Spanish colonies were glorified plantations producing only one or few cash crops. So when they became independent, they also found themselves with an economy revolving around a single or limited number of products. And their product(s) no longer had a globe spanning empire keeping their trade in balance. Also, every governor was appointed directly by the court in Madrid and every wealthy colonial son went to Spain for higher education. So now the plantation owners, with no experience in governance or innovation, but plenty of experience in cracking whips, found themselves completely in charge.
Banking on exports. It incentivized the upper-classes to lower wages as much as possible to pump out cheap product for European consumption. It created a population to poor to be a viable market for industrial goods and the landowners wouldn’t even want to invest in industry anyway. So the infrastructure remained backwards and their industry became dominated by foreigners, particular the British. Industrialization was the primary engine of wealth in the 20th century and Latin-America had to play catch up for decades. Argentina should have been a world superpower but instead it’s a state that’s barely relevant because it’s leadership kept the focus on investing mining and farming.
this
south american states are wholly owned by the same planter elites that existed since colonal times, and unlike america there was no civil war that's sole purpose was to break their power.
90 of the modern Argentine "noble families" are descendants from revolutionaries that rejected the "feudal Visigoth" in the 1810s.
It was French and English influenced mercantile elites and aspirants to be, that revolted against the Spanish in 1810.
Then they spent almost half a century trying to erase what I call the "might elites". Those who actually did the fighting for independence and realized no actual Republic was going to be established, but a centralized port oligarchical tyranny.
Ten thousand dead later, they finally took over in the 1870s. And did took vast areas of fertile land for themselves, but the mass migration of foreigners to work previously unwanted lands did re distribute ownership a lot.
So no, the land system was not to blame for our, Argentina, demise.
They weren't English. Spain and Portugal themselves were essentially failed states.
>They weren't English. Spain and Portugal themselves were essentially failed states.
This is a pretty big factor. England developed the best civic institutions in Europe.
This is so much of a big factor that Jamaica which use the British civil institutions you praise so much is actively worse than most of LatAm, who are a huge pile of shit themselves. So quite the performance indeed.
the Crown of Aragon had a parliament much before England did, you moron
I'd call this a meme answer, but Spain genuinely was a shitshow from the 1600s onwards
>Look at state default list
>Every Latino country has at least 5 defaults
BeanBlack persontry.
>what went wrong
>don't give me any of the actual reasons, just give me meme ones please
>the actual reasons
To start not every single place in latin america was a plantation colony, The andes, Mexico, And the southern cone are examples of places that weren't run as plantations.
The cope answers get some thing correct and should be taken into account but they aren't the only cause, other answers might be that the countries in the continent started off as republic that were incapable of conducting themselves like one (brazil excluded, mexico does not count because of very special circumstances). This rift between how the country should function on paper and how it actually works opens a gate for a lot of instability and corruption. And also rule by strongmen or oiligarchs orsome other thing like that, who ironically enough tend to develop the country a lot quicker and sometimes even mantain it in a more stable position than democracy.
tl;dr natives don't know how to function in modern society
>Guatemala is the most native country in the americas(even more than bolivia)
>most pure natives live in western Guatemala
>most european descendants live in eastern Guatemala
>eastern Guatemala is violent as frick while western Guatemala is as violent as the least violent places in Latin America
Explain.
Mexico is also like this, the narcos are mostly europeans in northern mexico.
do you have a map of indians to compare?
Here is a better map.
Not really, I have went to those places and like half of them look like the typical castizo and some even look fully european(light hair/eyes). Guatemala had the biggest influx of europeans in Central America, but it was already populated by a lot of natives conpared to places like Costa Rica, for example, wich was basically empty before europeans came and now is one of the whitest places in latin america because of that.
The only outlier is Peten (the big nothern territory in the map) wich is very native and has the most mayan ruins but is also very violent. Maybe because it's mostly jungle and narcos own that place.
that's probably due to low pop
>santi thinks i care
you arr rook same
the people you call "europeans" are like 75% native
not talking about plantations, the issue with south america is massive land owners using their weight to prevent industrialization. Argentina was and still is controlled by massive land owning estates.
so how it was before europeans
no. the natives didn't have farming estates the size of portugal or the ability to industrialize.
Europe didn't industrialize either, it's modern economy is all tourism.
dont reply to me, schizo
>The craddle of the industrial revolution
>Didn't industrialize
>Literally invented the Industrial revolution
>Did not industrialize
Bro the British literally wrote the book on industrialization
>Corn cultivation in one area—the humid and fertile lowlands of southern Veracruz and Tabasco, in Mexico—was sufficiently productive to permit a major diversion of human energy into other activities, such as the arts and commerce. Struggles for control of this rich but limited farmland resulted in a dominant landowning class that shaped the first great Mesoamerican civilization, the Olmec.
Mexico was literally founded on monopolization of viable cornfields
were they using their wealth to stifle technological advances in a democratic republic for economic reasons? not interested in you quoting wikipedia articles about feudalism hundreds of years before the steam engine.
who knows, probably
>In Aztec society, land could be owned by communities (calpolli) and parceled out to individual families for cultivation, or farmers could be resident tenants (mayeque) on large, privately owned estates. Rent was paid in kind to the landowners who were either Aztec nobles (pipiltin), warriors given the land as a reward for services rendered, or the king himself (tlatoani), who all managed their estates through intermediary administrators. At the bottom of the social strata were slaves (tlacohtin) who, besides working in other industries, were also widely engaged in agriculture.
vgh the mighty spacefaring Aztec repvblic
this isn't common knowledge but the aztecs actually built terraced fields out to orbit
For the ex-spanish colonies, they inherited the spanish corruption culture.
Nepotism is the norm; incapable people are always in positions of power.
If a revolution happens, the new regime still preserves this corruption culture and the cycle never ends.
Then how come Spain itself hasn't 1/100 of the issues Latin America has?
Maybe the problem are elsewhere. They probably are.
european union
Spain joined the EU in 1986. You cannot compare 1985 Spain to 1985 Mexico, Colombia or Honduras. So "EU" is not the answer either.
Not by 1985 but if you go back a couple decades, Spain was a shithole under most of the Franco regime. When he started easing out the regime the growth came, similarly to Chile, but Spain was underdeveloped.
At different points in time Argentina and Venezuela were much better off than southern Europe.
>Then how come Spain itself hasn't 1/100 of the issues Latin America has?
Are you fricking serious?
Do you have even the slightest idea of of the economic situation of Spain today?
Yes, top 20 in the world and much better than all of Latin America combined. I'm not even starting on other issues like the crime rates which are basically non-existant in Spain but plague all of latin america. Your countries sucks because you are a subhuman and racially inferior.
>Juan declares his Mexican cousin genetically inferior and then emigrates to Germany to find employment because Spain is also the joke of Europe
>this is my way of coping that I live in an african tier country
I'm sorry I buck broke you so hard, now enjoy your poverty
I'm actually a German lol
You're welcome btw, the Luftwaffe and Condor Legion saved your ass.
>implying all latin americans are schizo mexcrement landwhales
How is a Spaniard in any way superior to a latin American? They're both poor, brown, lazy and just we wuz about how great they were before they went to shit
>How is a Spaniard in any way superior to a latin American? They're both poor, brown, lazy and just we wuz about how great they were before they went to shit
Nice try, I'm an American, not a brown muttcel like Spaniards and latin Americans
Keep jumping walls mexcrement, maybe you will make Mexico a less violent country someday
I literally can't tell the difference between a spaniard and a colombian, puerto rican, etc
that's because you are moronic
>but plague all of latin america.
Not in River Plate, colombians, venezuelans, peruvians and bolivians are the ones committing the crimes here, our prisons are filled with people from their countries.
The same situation that the rest of Europe and the USA are suffering.
spain stole ALL south american gold for literal centuries go figure who was able to invest on infrastructure and who couldnt?
>1/100 of the issues Latin America has?
bc latin america is spain on crack. Every problem spain had was amplified bc their was in inherit racial divide.
If spanish aristocrats treated white spaniard badly what are the going too do too indians?
Catholicism + lack of competent leadership. That's all there is to it.
Oh, and of course, also geography, US intervention, something something colonies and so on
>Catholicism
Most Catholics countries are successful.
Yes, but only if there have some history of tardwrangling / putting the church in their place.
So literally every single Catholics countries?
No.
Name a counter example then.
France got many beef with the popes, Spain got many beef with the popes, Italy was literally founded by illegally occupying Vatican, maybe not the Irish but I'm not sure the papacy ever cared about Ireland.
I don't mean inter-religious conflicts, but a history of opposing of the state opposing the catholic church as an institution as a whole. Literally all the former spanish colonies present perfect counter examples, because catholicism was forced upon them by the colonists
Literally every liberal (as in modern) nation was founded opposing the Church, illiterate moron
You're seeing the point now, moron?
Even the now successful catholic countries were backwater shitholes until recently, see Ireland, Portugal, Spain, Croatia, Italy.
france and germany mysteriously absent of a list of succesful catholic countries, I wonder why.
>germany
>catholic
also France stopped factually being catholic after The French Revolution
>France
>Famous for its revolution which ransacked churches and for being the Vanguard of secularism and secular education in Europe
>Germany
>Homeland of Martin Luther and majority Protestant even when Austria was annexed into it
Latinx cope. Not being number 1 of Europe don't make you a shithole. These countries only were "shithole" compared to the rest Europe and the US but they were absolute paradise compared to the rest of the world.
And even compared to most east european country as a matter of fact.
Cope, Manolo. Spanish shitters were still immigrating into Latin America into the 70s. And now with EU they are still immigrating and shitting the rest of Europe.
Cope, Manol-ACK
your country is bankrupt
That's a very low bar you are setting there.
After they broke the power of the Church, sure. France and Italy have strong traditions of saying Frick the Vatican
Spain is the exception thanks to CIA gibs because of Cold War politics.
We are morons. Fin
they weren't extractive colonies
there was US intervention
geography is a cope
Spain got there first, huge disaster for everyone involved.
Did not help the Spanish had just won the Reconquista, they were savages.
Genetic experiment gone wrong. Nuke the whole continent and repopulate it again but no fricking around this time
Due to behaviors endemic to their people where they are now is where they will remain until time or outside forces change them for better or worse.
environmental determinists cope harder.
This is what they took from you
yeah, nothing like living your days farming on mud islands in the middle of a bog made of human shit collected from the city
>farming is...le bad
mongoloid hispanista
>posts revisionist wakanda tier images
>in reality the average person was literally toiling in mud and fresh human shit getting all sorts of infections and diseases
VGH
hey, we're not talking about spaniards here
the moronic thing about mesoamerica was their reliance on corn, which completely depletes the soil of nutrients for relatively little calories, which is why they had to resort to creating islands of human shit to increase corn production
you're not wrong, corn is absolute shit for nutrients, but I think they farmed it because it was simple to grow, and filled people's bellies. It makes sense if you don't know the nutritional facts about corn. You just see you can grow it, and it makes the hunger stop.
point being the nutritional bottleneck of corn is partly to blame for mesoamerica never advancing socially
Forget the mass scale human sacrifices, the US needs a GoT like wall and shot anyone trying to cross it.
mexicans can help with skulls for that wall, it's not like their first one
Greatest contribution of natives to mankind was shrunken head, these frickers didn't even did not even knww the wheel, barbaric prehistoric filth conquered by an army of plebs.
So Mickey Mouse is based on an ancient Aztec god?
Now instead of sacrificing people we sacrifice our hard earned shekels to appease the mouse god
How true is this? And if so, what is the solution?
> And if so, what is the solution?
End with the POC vermin and populate it with white people so that the maximum yield can be obtained from these lands.
.
You have to sabotage them every once a while to make sure they don't get too rich or powerful.
I gonna drop this image here totally unrelated with racial background of countries
Also this, totally unrelated to race
Absolutely unrelated to racial background
>lump together regions that have barely anything to do with each other
>guys le race
Yes, totally unrelated to race
You know, in all these pics Chile comes on top, even though they're ethnically more or less the same as Paraguay and Mexico, and Panama also comes up high, despite being one of the blackest countries in Latam.
Totally unrelated to european ancestry
You are just saying that whiteys are more gullible
Every government is corrupt to its bones once you know where to look, people from high corruption perception score are aware of it
Lynn got deboonked
Venezuelans are some of the most european latin americans genetically and they're migrating to an indio majority country (Peru) because Venezuela is one of the worst shitholes on the continent after Haiti
Argentina is also one of the most european countries and it's a shithole with an Africa tier economy
Chile is arguably the best country in latin america and it's a mestizo country
The most dangerous areas of Mexico are the most European ones while the most indigenous ones are the safest
Peru and Bolivia are majority indigenous and they're safer than majority European countries like Colombia, Venezuela and Brazil
tl;dr you're a moronic poltroony
>Venezuelans are some of the most european latin americans genetically and they're migrating to an indio majority country (Peru) because Venezuela is one of the worst shitholes on the continent after Haiti
Venezuela is a Black shithole
>Argentina is also one of the most european countries and it's a shithole with an Africa tier economy
And yet is filled of peruvian, venezuelan, mexican, bolivian, paragayan, etc etc etc inmigrants.
>Chile is arguably the best country in latin america and it's a mestizo country
Chile is castizo country, the amount of neonazi bands there that hunt inmigrants from Peru, Venezuela, Colombia, Bolivia has been an interesting topic for years.
>The most dangerous areas of Mexico are the most European ones while the most indigenous ones are the safest
A native violent shithole following the violent backward customs of their barbaric uncivilized human sacrificing ancestors
>Peru and Bolivia are majority indigenous and they're safer than majority European countries like Colombia, Venezuela and Brazil
Peru and Bolivia are unsafe as frick and actually NO ONE wanna live there, what is more, they move to Argentina and Chile to live because their countries are dogshit tier
Btw Chile actually consider itself a country of basque roots since they totally despise the barbaric mapuche tribes from south and the peruvians from the north
Actually Chile lower class is mestizo North Mexico tier but today is changing with all the bolivians, peruvians, ecuatorians, venezuelans, colombians, etc who are living here.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1050080/pdf/jmedgene00288-0042.pdf
>Venezuela is a Black shithole
Objectively speaking they're one of the most european countries in latam
>And yet is filled of peruvian, venezuelan, mexican, bolivian, paragayan, etc etc etc inmigrants.
>mexican
there's barely any mexicans in argentina you moronic frick, and argentinians in the 20th century were the Venezuelans of today, they migrated everywhere escaping from the heckin based right wing dictatorship of their shithole
>Chile is castizo country
Good god you're a moronic delusional troony
>human sacrificing ancestors
more like their witch hunting moor ancestors, considering the most unsafe areas are in north mexico, where cartels originated
>NO ONE wanna live there
there's millions of majority european Venezuelans in Peru working shitty jobs just to eat every day
Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Parana and Rio Grande are actually similar in culture, history and genes and still are the israeliteels of South America where every injun and nog living in shantytowns wants to live because they know that their lands will NEVER be developed.
No matter how much you cope with the fact Mexico, Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia are shitholes without redemption, the genepool of these countries is put down by the genes of inbreed small head mongoloids who never created anything in their entire history.
The fact you moved to the anglosaxon North America just show the reality of your sad thirdworlder race, you can't be civilized and your countries will always exceed the white countries of the continent in terms of crime, corruption, illiteracy and poverty.
Pray God whites someday exterminate your ugly barbaric violent archaic race and populate these lands with humans beings, actually white people.
>Chile is le white n shiet
coping troony, Chile mogs Argentina despite being mestizo
you're either a moronic self hating latino mutt radicalized by poltroony infographics or a subhuman snowBlack person from the US seething at muh inmmigrants, either way it's hilarious how you're here seething at le evil brown ppl when snowBlack folk are killing each other in europe as we speak (again lol), seriously have a nice day
Don't include me with your people, we already raped your ugly people until oblivion during pacific war, ended the maopuche menace and your "enlightened" nationalist "scholars" see us as the reincarnation of the Spanish.
We are more linked to Argentina and Uruguay, I can move to Argentina and viceversa and feel at home.
ah so you're a moronic self hating mutt, how surprising
you will always be a selfhating pathetic homosexual and you will inevitably rope yourself, good riddance
Yeah, we are not your brothers, we don't want your people here.
you're not even Chilean, I know you're that Venezuelan subhuman shitspanista wetback living in Spain
How does it feel knowing your dying ideology will never come back? How does it feel being a moronic selfhating mutt?
>Anyone who disagrees with me is Hispanista/Venezuelan/[Insert the name of a country or ideology that I dislike]
For things like that we should build a wall, we are different in every sense.
and now you don't even have the balls to admit it, perhaps because you know it's too embarrassing being a triracial selfhating wetback mutt from the worst shithole of the Americas thinking that he's superior to anyone lmao
Not me, now kys schizo
lmao relax chud, go outside and take some fresh air
>lmao relax chud, go outside and take some fresh air
I thought it was the brown Cuban that posted his hand thinking he was white, either way that Venezuelan is cancer too
>there's barely any mexicans in argentina you moronic frick, and argentinians in the 20th century were the Venezuelans of today, they migrated everywhere escaping from the heckin based right wing dictatorship of their shithole
You can only trick clueless gringos that do not even speak Spanish.
But your lies are useless with real latinos.
To say we were mass migrating from here in the XX century most be the weirdest cope post lie I have ever read about us.
So easily disproven, so impossible to back up.
In fact, I expect you to either ignore this reply or insult me to cope with it.
"mass" emigration is an exaggeration but Mexico did get a lot of Argentine immigrants during the dictatorships
t. NTA
Thousands vs millions of Venezuelans out, and tens of millions of Mexicans into the US.
An impossible comparisson.
>Venezuela is a Black shithole
it's mulatto on average, and there are lots of pure whiteys that came in the 50s
>mexican
what are you smoking? btw nice job at outing yourself as an argie, your country is a shithole that ranks seventh in the Misery Index. Keep digging up rotten chickens and eating cats while you wait for your Italian passport to be approved, Santi. Better hurry up before all the airlines leave your joke of a nation.
>castizo country
Castizo would be Argentina or the white parts of Mexico, Chile is mestizo on average.
>neonazi bands there
picrel
>A native violent shithole following the violent backward customs of their barbaric uncivilized human sacrificing ancestors
nice job at ignoring the main point there
>Peru and Bolivia are unsafe as frick a
that's not true, they're just poor af, yet caribbean people keep moving there (to Peru, at least)
>Chile actually consider itself a country of basque roots
and Americans consider themselves Irish despite having one ancestor back in the 1800s from Ireland.
You know indians are a piece of shit when israeliteS and middle-easterners living here side with fascist groups on inmigration policies
Jews? there barely are any israelites in latin america
They exist and they AVOID natives and nggrs
because they're richgays and only use them to get votes, both wings
Actually this palestinian is ending the problem of indians gangsters in Salvador by killing them or sending them to prison without a previous judgement
Its all culture, race has nothing to do in this discussion...
>illiteratetugal
>no cope answers like the major contributing factors to current circumstances in Latin America
Ok dude
Ideologically most of LATAM was always fricked
Their revolutions resulted in poorly laid out constitutions and thus more revolutions happened
The educated class in 1850 LATAM was far smaller than the USA’s was immediately after 1776. The difference between British colonisation methods and Spanish and Portuguese ones cannot be understated
>Brown people can't go into civilization, wetbacks greatest achivement before spanish civilized them was creating a tribal cannibal kingdom that didn´t knew the wheel and fell before an army of 900 peasants that spanish sent there.
Meso american societies had huge trade complex's, mathematics, complex architecture,(100,000+ city in an island) pottery, israeliteelry and rigid and complex social structures.
Your a moron.
>fell before an army of 900 peasants that spanish sent there.
should have discredited everything there man
Sometimes I just cant see straight.
>900 peasants that spanish
War veterans from the Reconquista.
>War veterans from the Reconquista.
Nah, they were peasants who wanted to find gold and lands to settle in america, reconquista veterans more often went to Italy, they were members of the army, not to adventurer groups
Brazil has suffered extensively due to late industrialization, being one of the last countries to abolish slavery and didn't make a significant integration of the ex-slaves to society which resulted in slow economic growth, lack of ethnical and cultural homogeneity, lack of political independence to Portugal, lack of a main spearhead ideology like the manifest destiny, coronelism, suppression of private sectors (this has happened since 1500 and it's still happening) , shitty schools, corrupt politicians...
As far as the other countries, Paraguay was fricked by Argentina and Brazil and Argentina shoved it's economic growth up it's ass after electing left wing politicians for 50 years straight.
(I don't know shit about the other countries)
>che sha quisierah ser blanco como sho, forro, todoh uhtedeh quieren venirse a mi blanca largentina, vihte?
>vieja pasáme el dildo de madera, ndeaaah
Actually all these peruvian and bolivian inmigrants are called villeros and bolitas, the argentinian equivalent for wetback and Hispanic.
>ndeaaah
>can't distinguish true villero slang from middle class zoomer speak
>what went so wrong with latin america? no history please...
Just bad luck, unironically.
The success of countries boils down to the starts aligning and then getting lucky with good leaders, favorable geopolitical situation, technology of the era, etc.
Latin America has just gotten the shaft from the heartless and cold random universe.
El MexicANO feo gordo petizo pardo se revela
>che no son argentinoh, son boliguashoh que trajo el peronihmo vihte? loh verdaderoh argentinoh somoh blancoh no cabezahnegrah
>what went so wrong with latin america?
Allowed browns to exist unlike the US, the only good injun is the death one
Basically the way I view it:
>US formed as a functional democracy, with loyal citizens who fought hard to make it free
>because of its stable entry into independence, it worked
Canada and other former colonies:
>let free by peace
>already built up by Europeans
>American help too
And Latin America:
>homeland collapses, no real choice but to become independent
>no time to form a government, anyone can take power
>new nations are artificially constructed and collapse
>borders were vague since the colonies were all part of one empire (minus brazil)
>wars over vague borders
>and now they have a legacy of unstable government and poverty
It has nothing to do with race or culture, being thrust into independence with no plan just doesn't work.
>ITT latin Americans thinking they're superior to each other while forgetting... they still live in Latin America
pathetic
Latin America is a beautiful continent, the only shitty thing about it is the poverty. Previous somewhat decent places like Chile are now invaded by congolombian monkey Black folk who are killers, human traffickers and all the worst you can possibly imagine. We are literally the Balkans: med/Amerindian edition
it's always these self hating fricks starting it, they claim to be nationalistic and proud and they're the absolute polar opposite, they hate latin america, they themselves and everyone in latin america, they're traitors in every sense
we genuinely need to curbstomp all of these traitors, the region would improve instantly
>I'm a heckin based shitspanista, spanish empire was the best and most tolerant evuurrr
>also indios are subhuman pls accept me as white
absolutely laughable existence from this shitstain
What's wrong with Latin America? I like it.
Alberdi, an important argentinian scholars, often blamed spaniards of not ending the job about the indian question (Argentina was at the end the one leading the war against mapuches) and inheriting several cultural problems due to racemix. He was the main advocate of bringing immigrants from the old world to colonize empty regions in Patagonia.
Time just proved he was right, browns still are a problem inherited from liberal multicultural spanish dumb colonial policies and european inmigrants were the ones that brought money to invest, entrepreneurs, sholars, scientists, farmers, etc.
chilotes are beyond parody, i'd be mad at everyone else too if i got mugged by venecos/congolombians on a daily basis
We will expel all venezuelans, peruvians and colombians someday, keep seething.
>someday
you're the one seething, holding to hopes
not all venezuelans are like the thugg migrants who moved there
>We will expel all venezuelans, peruvians and colombians someday, keep seething.
Spain was too centralized.
>be Spain
>improve the culture of a crowd of violent cavemen
>literally introduce them from neolithic to modern era
>expand their territories from tiny irrelevant prehistoric kingdom to a massive empire that goes from California to Nicaragua
>they became independent
>lost most of the territories to banana dictators and the US
>two centuries later still blamming you of their own incompetence
>neolithic to modern era
neolithic looking good
not that great of a feat when you realize that's all 5 million people ever accomplished in 200 years
>not that great of a feat
stopped reading there
some times I forget that Diego rivera was a good artist and not just another annoying fricking homosexual my country sucks off because our artist tradition is shite. This is beautiful.
Operation Condor, read about it homosexual OP and learn a thing or two
His has only three types of thread
>whiter than u Muhammad
>muh gommunism
>hitler
wetbacks are the gypsies of the continent, they would be Somalia tier if they werent next to the US
>veneco calling anybody the gypsy of x, or somalia tier
suck my dick chicano gay
>doesnt deny being a veneco
ya te vi Yonaikerson, no te distraigas que se te enfría el rappi
>please, tell me how you got into this shithole
>without telling me how you got into this shithole