We moved past the design decision made in windows 7. Microsoft just wanted to sell a new OS without adding any value in 8 so they leaned heavy on the tablet design to incentives buying it. Then they realized that all their tablet efforts sucked and back tracked for windows 10. Windows 10 wasn't as bad as 8, but still had a lot of issues as Microsoft wanted to make money without having to sell new products or do anything so they turned into ad spyware. Also I'll never forgive them for making the search bar connected to the internet. 11 is when Microsoft lost its identity and just decided to copy apple and google because they don't have any vision when it comes to the OS. This ironically kills windows faster because at least before 11 windows actually had an identity and wasn't trying to be Unix.
>8(.1) le bad
shut up Black person
fastest OS ever
sleek and cool design
windows 10 was bogged down bloat from the very beginning. only ltsc or windows server 2019/2022 is usable with animations OFF
thats 2k isnt it?
looks like 7 with replaced icons
Start menu has 7's logo, window menus are different, the navigation tree is different, control panel in 2k only had a typical folder view (not categorized), systray is different, and some other things that are not default for 2k but might have been supported (eg. anti-aliased fonts or larger desktop icons)
>sleek and cool design.
It was the most obtrusive, dogshit design I have ever had the displeasure of using. Win10 was a godsend, and dorks whining about ads need to install LTSC.
>nothing wrong with windows 11 if you switch the start menu to the left >Can't click on Start by just dragging the mouse all the way to the bottom left corner of the screen
nothing it works fine. If you click start and navigate a tree menu to find the application you want to launch instead of hitting the windows key and starting to type you're a boomer brained dumb piece of shit.
It's SO EASY you're just FRICKING STUPID.
This.
The buttons were tastefully emboss along the edges to create a 3D effect. XP abused gradients to get its depth, looking gaudy.
Vista/7/8 tried to go for the glossy black surface of a PS3, looks like shit.
10 & 11 is the worst. They mix flat "minimalism" with 3D elements, looks moronic.
I'm guessing the next trendy UI look will go back to simple squared embossed edges. It will be our time again.
looks like 7 with replaced icons
Start menu has 7's logo, window menus are different, the navigation tree is different, control panel in 2k only had a typical folder view (not categorized), systray is different, and some other things that are not default for 2k but might have been supported (eg. anti-aliased fonts or larger desktop icons)
the consistency was the best part, but Vista's Aero glass interface was absolute peak design
7 made it a bit worse
8's flat design wasn't that bad as people make it out to be
I miss the bubble aesthetic everything used to have between late 2000’s and early 2010’s. Made things seem so much more optimistic. The flat minimalism is just oppressively lacking mood.
>What went wrong?
Your parents did not love you. Thus, they never could muster the strength nor motivation required to care for you, or at least beat some common sense into you.
That led you to become an attention-prostitute on IQfy.
Sucks to be you.
There nothing wrong going on with the attached pic. So I assume it's urelated?
>icons started becoming worse with each release, less colors, very simple/lazy
can someone explain why this became a thing? especially since the monochrome icons are counter intuitive
Nothing. Windows is still the premier OS. Let me guess, you know better than the $3 trillion market cap tech innovation leader of the past 4 decades? Lol
no but why would I want clicking on stuff to be harder? I don't have enough shit to fill the whole screen anyway, might as well have larger tiles with labels, which also helps when some things have the same icon
and it's faster to hit the Windows key and have tiles closer to the middle of the screen instead of always having to drag your cursor to the corner
The Desktop Windows team got de-prioritized after Microsoft bet on mobile but they lost that bet and the Windows team has never fully recovered.
Additionally all the OG Windows devs left but Windows is still built on the same re-animated corpse of Windows NT so now no one on the team has any understanding of the OS anymore. Which leads do insane moronic shit like using JS to render everything on top of an existing native UI and having 40 different menu styles.
> no one on the team has any understanding of the OS anymore
I am pretty sure this is complete nonsense, some of the changes they have made would have been impossible without a decent level of understanding. The real reasons is nothing to do with ability, windows has been made the way it is, because that is how management want it.
>windows has been made the way it is, because that is how management want it
Exactly. Microsoft is not a charity with the goal of making the best operating system for so-called "Power Users" or to be the best platform for PC Gaming. Microsoft exists to increase shareholder value, and at least right now it isn't clear how making a platform good for either of those things contributes to Microsoft's bottom line.
Valve has a clearer path to make money off of building a better operating system than Microsoft does.
unironically lack of customization and options.
everything looks exactly the same nowadays it's driving me insane.
I hate flat design so much it's unreal.
Windows 8.1 was the last salvageable one. Classic, Luna, and both aero are fantastic, metro is well implemented in 8.1 and while I dislike the flatshit look of the start menu, at least the icons from 7 are still there, making it a decent desktop OS (with classic shell installed of course)
10... well, it's there, a bit soulless but it's manageable. 11 is just "corporate AIshit" graphic design, at least that's what it reminds me of
At a minimum, I'd say: >the "AppIndicator" extension; >"Just Perfection" to tweak some of the visual related things such as the unnecessarily large top panel; >"Rectangle" which is a clone of the Rectangle OSX app that provides keyboard-shortcuts for window snapping in several different layouts; >"Night Theme Switcher", which switches GTK, cursor and icon themes (as well as run scripts or commands) based on time of day; and >"Auto Move Windows" which allows you to configure windows to always open on certain assigned workspaces.
There are others, but these provide functionality which I think should be standard in every single desktop.
nothing, honestly, i prefer my applications in the centre of the taskbar. I think 11's taskbar is also the cleanest it's ever looked
start menu peaked in 10 though
when Microsoft Hired H1b Chinks and pajeets
At least they can keep the system usable enough to build an ad/spyware/botnet platform on top of it
>H1b Chinks
SO FRICKING SEXY
putting them like this makes me realize that they were all bad
loonix troon
Windows 8.1 bar or 10 with the search box disabled is perfect.
just because thats what you used when you were a teenager doesn mean it is perfect.
We moved past the design decision made in windows 7. Microsoft just wanted to sell a new OS without adding any value in 8 so they leaned heavy on the tablet design to incentives buying it. Then they realized that all their tablet efforts sucked and back tracked for windows 10. Windows 10 wasn't as bad as 8, but still had a lot of issues as Microsoft wanted to make money without having to sell new products or do anything so they turned into ad spyware. Also I'll never forgive them for making the search bar connected to the internet. 11 is when Microsoft lost its identity and just decided to copy apple and google because they don't have any vision when it comes to the OS. This ironically kills windows faster because at least before 11 windows actually had an identity and wasn't trying to be Unix.
>8(.1) le bad
shut up Black person
fastest OS ever
sleek and cool design
windows 10 was bogged down bloat from the very beginning. only ltsc or windows server 2019/2022 is usable with animations OFF
it is windows 7 with aeroslop OFF Black person
>sleek and cool design.
It was the most obtrusive, dogshit design I have ever had the displeasure of using. Win10 was a godsend, and dorks whining about ads need to install LTSC.
worst opinion ITT award
Literally nothing wrong with 10 if you turn off the search bar
>2029
>nothing wrong with windows 11 if you switch the start menu to the left
this but unironically
You can still have the basic Windows 10 task bar on Windows 11 with Winaero Tweaker
but you can't do that without 3rd party chinkware or pooware, no?
>nothing wrong with windows 11 if you switch the start menu to the left
>Can't click on Start by just dragging the mouse all the way to the bottom left corner of the screen
yes you can. it still works that way even though the button is visually set in from the side a little bit
I have Win11 on my work laptop and I can't.
Works on my machine, explain what you're doing that's moronic and prevents this
yes you can dumb homie
Also
>can't briefly view the desktop while hovering (NOT CLICKING) in the bottom right corner of the screen
>he doesn't use hotkeys anyway
>caring where a button you never use is on a bar that should be hidden most of the time
ngmimm
windows 10 is a usability trainwreck
your boss says the same thing about you
That doesn't make any sense, Raj.
you're useless
All the computer people in management were replaced with business people.
>he doesn't know
I just wish they'd make a proper paid quality official older themes for Windows
I'd pay just to get them back if they were good working themes
The windows 8 one let you put stuff like a progress bar or some text behind it. The rest either cover it or blur it to shit.
the windows 95 one is actually the best still. simple and functional
Cargo cutting the MacOS dock
i like my mac dock
Wallpaper, please?
too big for IQfy so here
i also have a $200 Thinkpad if it makes you feel better tbh
A Chromebook might have saved you about $500
Apple and its consequences have been a disaster for the computer industry.
only the win 95/98 one was good
>labeled button
>labeled button
>button
>button
>white shape
>very small thing [troony search]
>blue square with ambiguous location
vista was the worst piece of garbage I ever had the displeasure of witnessing, even worse than 8
11 isn't that bad, it just borrowed from apple
I really liked vista it just felt so much like the future when it first came out. What was it that you didn't like?
everything up through 10 was fine
11 is a travesty
she's right you know
>she
>What went wrong?
Back in the 90s every idiot was allowed to use the Internet. Like you. We were fine before you showed up
nothing it works fine. If you click start and navigate a tree menu to find the application you want to launch instead of hitting the windows key and starting to type you're a boomer brained dumb piece of shit.
It's SO EASY you're just FRICKING STUPID.
Try to see the truth. There is no taskbar.
I've been chasing the high of that interface for 4 decades and nothing hits the same.
Just use openshell, breh, is what I do.
Microsoft decided they didn't want to have to redo the UI graphics to support higher resolutions so went with flatshit that would scale trivially.
crazy how much soul xp has
PCs peaked in 2000 and it's all been downhill ever since
This.
The buttons were tastefully emboss along the edges to create a 3D effect. XP abused gradients to get its depth, looking gaudy.
Vista/7/8 tried to go for the glossy black surface of a PS3, looks like shit.
10 & 11 is the worst. They mix flat "minimalism" with 3D elements, looks moronic.
I'm guessing the next trendy UI look will go back to simple squared embossed edges. It will be our time again.
thats 2k isnt it?
looks like 7 with replaced icons
Start menu has 7's logo, window menus are different, the navigation tree is different, control panel in 2k only had a typical folder view (not categorized), systray is different, and some other things that are not default for 2k but might have been supported (eg. anti-aliased fonts or larger desktop icons)
Windows 2000 really was perfection. The classic theme got butchered in XP onwards before finally being removed entirely.
the Start Screen is superior to the Start Menu
the consistency was the best part, but Vista's Aero glass interface was absolute peak design
7 made it a bit worse
8's flat design wasn't that bad as people make it out to be
Aero is a stupid gimmick, and they destroyed the entire graphics subsystem to implement it.
xp had the comfiest
i use similiar setup on linoox
nothing. aesthetics and design changed ... people now design with a mobile first approach,
flatshit sucks for mobile too
Vista is so sovlful it makes me cream my pants
I miss the bubble aesthetic everything used to have between late 2000’s and early 2010’s. Made things seem so much more optimistic. The flat minimalism is just oppressively lacking mood.
You could ask the same thing about movies, games, music and everything.
>What went wrong?
Your parents did not love you. Thus, they never could muster the strength nor motivation required to care for you, or at least beat some common sense into you.
That led you to become an attention-prostitute on IQfy.
Sucks to be you.
There nothing wrong going on with the attached pic. So I assume it's urelated?
Not much actually. It's called innovation and user experience.
If you want a Windows XP experience, use Windows XP or a skin to bring back archaic UX. Else get with the times, grandpa.
>It's called innovation
Lol removing features and adding bloat is now innovation.
>What went wrong?
Kiddults
Beside Win8.1 and 10 I like them all, frick flatshit. It sucks.
That's just how old technology is. With time we learn what is better, how to improve things and we do.
>windows 12 gets rid of the clock and seconds display functionality
wow how useful, at least it constantly spies on you instead
>icons started becoming worse with each release, less colors, very simple/lazy
can someone explain why this became a thing? especially since the monochrome icons are counter intuitive
Obama
>gets second term
>microsoft gongo up
shareholders got tired of sitting on crabbing stock for 14 years. Maybe 15 years of microsoft treading water will fix things.
Nothing. Windows is still the premier OS. Let me guess, you know better than the $3 trillion market cap tech innovation leader of the past 4 decades? Lol
>Meanwhile on gorgeous linux...
This literally looks like windows 10 bro
>literally
First and last are the only good ones
I wanted to use win7 start menu again but I realized win10 menu is actually not that bad, I cannot go back to using submenus....
n.n
nice bait
It's not... I really like to have my programs one click away instead of:
programs
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
*click*
>Peggle Nights
>PvZ
>Sonic Mania
kino
full-screen Start is even better
you get to have more icons and/or bigger icons that are easier to spot and click
and you can still put things into folders that unwrap/expand
are you an 80 year old grandma?
no but why would I want clicking on stuff to be harder? I don't have enough shit to fill the whole screen anyway, might as well have larger tiles with labels, which also helps when some things have the same icon
and it's faster to hit the Windows key and have tiles closer to the middle of the screen instead of always having to drag your cursor to the corner
>full-screen Start
KYS moron.
PAJEETS
The death of skeuomorphism and its consequences have been a disaster for UI design.
The Desktop Windows team got de-prioritized after Microsoft bet on mobile but they lost that bet and the Windows team has never fully recovered.
Additionally all the OG Windows devs left but Windows is still built on the same re-animated corpse of Windows NT so now no one on the team has any understanding of the OS anymore. Which leads do insane moronic shit like using JS to render everything on top of an existing native UI and having 40 different menu styles.
> no one on the team has any understanding of the OS anymore
I am pretty sure this is complete nonsense, some of the changes they have made would have been impossible without a decent level of understanding. The real reasons is nothing to do with ability, windows has been made the way it is, because that is how management want it.
>windows has been made the way it is, because that is how management want it
Exactly. Microsoft is not a charity with the goal of making the best operating system for so-called "Power Users" or to be the best platform for PC Gaming. Microsoft exists to increase shareholder value, and at least right now it isn't clear how making a platform good for either of those things contributes to Microsoft's bottom line.
Valve has a clearer path to make money off of building a better operating system than Microsoft does.
7 was peak
unironically lack of customization and options.
everything looks exactly the same nowadays it's driving me insane.
I hate flat design so much it's unreal.
>soul
>soul
>cringe
>soul
>meh
>trash
>vantacoal from Black personhell
Windows 8.1 was the last salvageable one. Classic, Luna, and both aero are fantastic, metro is well implemented in 8.1 and while I dislike the flatshit look of the start menu, at least the icons from 7 are still there, making it a decent desktop OS (with classic shell installed of course)
10... well, it's there, a bit soulless but it's manageable. 11 is just "corporate AIshit" graphic design, at least that's what it reminds me of
the win xp black theme was peak kino
the one on the top is still under every single one after lmao isn't it obvious?
meanwhile on Debian 12 + Gnome 43.9
it’s perfect…
Development was too slow
designers use macOS, whose UI is absolute garbage, so they turned windows into garbage too
at least it's the opposite. macOS has good UI and bad UX while Windows has good UX and bad UI.
The only modern desktop interface I think that has good UI and good UX is Gnome with a couple of extensions.
Which gnome extensions do you recommend?
At a minimum, I'd say:
>the "AppIndicator" extension;
>"Just Perfection" to tweak some of the visual related things such as the unnecessarily large top panel;
>"Rectangle" which is a clone of the Rectangle OSX app that provides keyboard-shortcuts for window snapping in several different layouts;
>"Night Theme Switcher", which switches GTK, cursor and icon themes (as well as run scripts or commands) based on time of day; and
>"Auto Move Windows" which allows you to configure windows to always open on certain assigned workspaces.
There are others, but these provide functionality which I think should be standard in every single desktop.
>macOS has good UI
wrong
>macOS has good UI
no
Minimalism
nothing, honestly, i prefer my applications in the centre of the taskbar. I think 11's taskbar is also the cleanest it's ever looked
start menu peaked in 10 though