They just built us a new little office building at work, and the a/c unit looks just like that. I've been told that is also a heater, but right now it's blasting cold as frick air and is virtually silent.
Christ, I forgot it's europoor hours. I know y'all haven't figured out infrastructure yet, but on this side of the pond a device that condenses air, blows the hot/room temp out the back and replaes it with fresh, cool filtered air inside, is known as air conditioning.
2 years ago
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it does both so it's not
2 years ago
Anonymous
CENTRAL air conditioning. Imagine, Euros, having a vent (that can be individually closed if it gets too cold in one room) in every single room coming from a single air conditioning unit that cools your entire house/apartment/etc all at once.
I'm sorry you don't have what even the poorest of the poor broke as frick Americans take for fricking granted.
2 years ago
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I want to replace my central AC with individual units because I think it would be more efficient in my home and I can use less space for ductwork and have higher ceilings in my basement
Seems better in every way to me, because then guests can set the temperature in their room. When I found out this wasn't just for hotels, but was normal in europe, I was pretty interested
2 years ago
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Multiple ACs is definitely not normal in Europe outside of hotels, you would have to have a pretty big house for that to be useful.
2 years ago
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Cope. Even poorgays in southern europe have AC.
2 years ago
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It's only called sir conditioning if it also dehumidifies the air.
2 years ago
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I'll go take a look on the back of our new building at work in an hour or so and report back. Am fairly certain there will be a hose for draining the water/condensation created by the device in op's picrel
2 years ago
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there will be, any type of phase change cooling produces condensation, and that unit is phase change.
2 years ago
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It's only called sir conditioning if thr guy who installed it was named rajesh
2 years ago
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it can do that too, welcome to the future
2 years ago
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I am Swiss, Switzerland is arguably the best country to live in. We don't havr ACs, despite of temperatures going up to 40 degrees C in Summer.
Why?
Because we are not homosexuals, that's why.
2 years ago
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Kek enjoy never owning your own home white Black person.
2 years ago
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>We don't havr ACs >why
Because you are homosexuals. You are European and thus gay. All europeans enjoy dick in the booty.
2 years ago
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> We don't havr ACs, despite of temperatures going up to 40 degrees C in Summer.
oh shut up moron lmao
you literally wouldn't survive a summer in southern italy without AC, no shit that you can live without it in your cold mountain shithole
Dude are you moronic?
This is split system air conditioning.
it can regulate temperature in every room separately and what is most important it pull out excessive humidity of of the room (something that outdated burger trash cant do)
It literally conditions the air by means of extracting heat from one side to another. Where as AC only does that one way.
2 years ago
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>It literally conditions the air by means of extracting heat from one side to another. Where as AC only does that one way.
These are literally called "split AC systems". Yes, they use heat pumps, so does your shitty HVAC.
2 years ago
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yes it pumps hot or cold air, but it's not air conditioning.
that's a heat pump not AC
Not all heat pumps are ACs, but all ACs are heat pumps
2 years ago
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This is not true. For an AC unit to be a heat pump is needs a reversing valve. Most use electric heat or if you live up north you probably have a gas furnace.
2 years ago
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No, the "conditioning" portion of an air conditioner is the fact that is also removes humidity.
An "Air Conditioner" is just a term used to describe a heat pump that also de-humidifies during its normal operation.
Phase change cooling and thermo-electric cooling are both types of heat pumps
Never had air conditioning in a house. I live in a temperature climate. Nothing a fan can't fix.
Temps reach 40C degrees (above 100F) where I live and I still manage to get by with only a fan as I can't bother to get my AC fixed. I am lucky though since my room faces north and I have another floor above me. I open all windows at night to cool the walls and floor, and during the day the fan blowing air around is more than enough to have the walls and floor absorb the little heat me and my computer put out.
>winter
light the woodstove >summer
open the window
do morons really spend half their income on climate control?
AC is much cheaper and more efficient than a woodstove. You also don't stink up the neighbourhood.
In 99% of the world - a fan and a towel soaked in cold water is enough.
The rest of the world would be uninhabitable.
Simple as.
Wait this is what you guys call heat pumps?
I've been reading news that euros are trying to replace their gas heating with A SUPER MODERN TECH CALLED HEAT PUMPS, and I was thinking it was some new advanced tech... But no, it's a fricking split AC that everyone in the third world has had for over a decade.
Same. I have a window unit but it doesn't usually work when I want to use it at night (like to sleep cold) because the outdoor temperature is under 60F and the compressor won't turn on below that.
>I have a window unit but it doesn't usually work when I want to use it at night (like to sleep cold) because the outdoor temperature is under 60F and the compressor won't turn on below that.
wut
I choose to stay indoors when it gets that cold.
I'm from the Great Lakes region and the weather is like that here too with lake humidity, it can be brutal. I don't use a/c. I'm lucky I live in a brick house, if you can find that fortune in such area, the brick insulates a lot and soaks heat well. My trick is box fan in window pointed outward in summer, ceiling fan (reverse mode for winter), and on the hottest or coldest days, you just gotta deal wid it
Lol I don't use AC, I acclimate.
Nothing is better than a hike in the desert during peak summer. Sweat pouring. Cleanses mind body and soul. Makes day to day life mild as can be. I can't stand watching gaygits race from car to store, ac to ac. So fricking soft and pathetic. Once you acclimate a nice day is a nice day and at worst you get a mild sweat under your hat, if that's too much find some fricking shade or a fan.
>open the window
I do opposite. Open the windows at night, close them(and curtains) in the daytime. Even when it's +40 outside it is around a few degrees cooler inside.
You must be proud to live in a location where this shit is good enough. You'd beg for a fricking AC living where I fricking live. Open a window, my ass. Open a window and let more fricking sweltering, hot, humid goddamn air in, yeah, sure, great goddamn solution you got there.
>whiny
I want to see you live in a hot and humid environment with just a window open.
See how much you fricking whine.
I bet it's a whole goddamn lot.
Fricking idiots who have never lived in hot, humid places never understand how fricking miserable it is. Imagine not only being hot, but not being able to get comfortable because the air is moist as frick so you can't properly get rid of any heat on your body, so you just sit and suffer. You don't even have to be doing anything, just sitting or laying down perfectly still, and you can barely fricking breathe, you sweat profusely, and you're miserable as frick.
You never been in this situation, you don't understand. Just admit it. Be a grown man and admit it instead of continuing to whine and groan and snap back memes and insults at me like a little child, like most of fricking IQfy does.
People who know better than you should be listened to. You aren't fricking all knowing. Get over yourself.
2 years ago
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You are a whiny little baby.
2 years ago
Anonymous
silly africans seem to be doing fine with their open-air concept shacks
2 years ago
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they're also naturally adapted to it
a lot of white people don't even sweat properly from years of never having to survive closer to the equator from canada. they have weird stuff going on where they'll only sweat from their armpits, head, and crotch but nowhere else no matter how hot they get, then they keel over and die.
2 years ago
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RACE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT REEEEE
2 years ago
Anonymous
You sound american. Stop eat your mcburgers and being a b***h you fat frick and you won't have the problems you described.
Living in a shit environment sucks but its no unlivable like you describe it, unless you are a landwhale that is.
2 years ago
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>I want to see you live in a hot and humid environment with just a window open.
this, holy frick it's miserable. and it doesn't even get THAT hot where I live, it's just the humidity that makes it miserable as frick.
>75f and 96% humidity >top-floor, middle apartment >small 1bdr >all the heat from my downstairs neighbor rises up to me >warmed up from both sides >consistently +15f inside without AC >running window fans all night did frick all because the cold would escape through walls into neighbor's >running dehumidifier would just warm up apartment >wake up with cold sweats >sweat does not evaporate
2 years ago
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>Fricking idiots who have never lived in hot, humid places never understand how fricking miserable it is.
australian here. a lot of euros and americans cannot comprehend the heat, especially in this country. they think it's like just one or two days in summer instead of weeks on end of 40c+ cooking you alive. without air conditioning, most of australia would cease to function.
2 years ago
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Same here in South Texas, the days are around 100F but with 40% humidity so the sweat just stays on your body and never leaves. The nights are just as bad too, with temps hovering around 85F and 40% humidity.
2 years ago
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Europoors dont understand. They think Spain is hot.
2 years ago
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Yeah, we do because it's pretty hot if you're from central or eastern Europe you nutsack licker. We don't have to think about what might be hot to an American because it's irrelevant to us.
>whiny
I want to see you live in a hot and humid environment with just a window open.
See how much you fricking whine.
I bet it's a whole goddamn lot.
Fricking idiots who have never lived in hot, humid places never understand how fricking miserable it is. Imagine not only being hot, but not being able to get comfortable because the air is moist as frick so you can't properly get rid of any heat on your body, so you just sit and suffer. You don't even have to be doing anything, just sitting or laying down perfectly still, and you can barely fricking breathe, you sweat profusely, and you're miserable as frick.
You never been in this situation, you don't understand. Just admit it. Be a grown man and admit it instead of continuing to whine and groan and snap back memes and insults at me like a little child, like most of fricking IQfy does.
People who know better than you should be listened to. You aren't fricking all knowing. Get over yourself.
Just move out of Delhi, Rajesh. Stop complaining about the climate in the third-world shithole where you live and then simultaneously acting like you're so cool for living there. Holy shit.
You literally can't rent a place here without functioning AC its a law because its to fricking hot. Everytime we get a heatwave you hear about homeless people dying because from how hot it gets.
>Everytime we get a heatwave you hear about homeless people dying because from how hot it gets.
It's called survival of the fittest and there's nothing wrong with it.
Amerimutt.
If you open the windows you're fricked, you'll fill your home with hot wind
You should try and turn your home into a cave during the day and open it during the night when it's cool
>This is America though, we’ve chopped down all the trees
America is literally more tree-covered than it was when the pilgrims landed here. We did cut the shit out of our old growth forests though.
Never even seen AC in my entire life though I suspect there might be one at work but I don't care much for it. Generally speaking, I live high up and have gigantic windows facing the west so it gets very fricking warm during summer but I tend to just submit. Open all windows as wide as possible at all times and bask in the scorcher. Usually, due to the height, I get a really nice breeze going as well.
When I'm outside during high temps I feel much worse than when I'm inside but still sit right in the sun. What actually pisses me off during summer are the wasps, bees and gigantic hornets that always come inside. Insect nets make me feel like I'm sitting in a prison so I don't have those.
>europoors need to stick their head out the window like an ape
2 years ago
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>amerisharts stay in their cooled cuckpods drinking corn syrup.
2 years ago
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>3 bedroom 1.5 bath house with a nice sized yard is considered a cuckpod
Are you okay, eurogay? You people don't even have yards.
2 years ago
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>look at my spacious cardboard
And yes we do have yards
2 years ago
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>cardboard >literally a brick house
Keep trying, keep failing. Love how wrong you are and how obsessed you are with America & Americans.
2 years ago
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Cardboard with a nice paintjob.
2 years ago
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>bricks = cardboard
You eurogays aren't the brightest I see. Keep obsessing over America & Americans. Sad that you have no culture of your own.
2 years ago
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>Keep obsessing over America & Americans.
2 years ago
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All you people do is talk about America and Americans 24/7. Hell, most sites you use are probably American. Try again though.
2 years ago
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2 years ago
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Not an argument. Thanks for admitting I'm right. I accept your concession. Filtered.
2 years ago
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>American talking about culture
2 years ago
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American culture comes from Europe, we need a man like you as president of America, I hope you ban everything made from Europe, so you can live in your tipi scratching balls again and eat grass daily
2 years ago
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>he thinks a US President can just ban everything
Eurogay showing once again they know nothing about America.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you know nothing about your own country go back to school dumb gay
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not an argument. You think the President can ban shit. Not how our system works. Next time, either admit you're wrong like a man or do your research prior to posting.
2 years ago
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if it's shit don't use it go lick stones and die from malnutrition
2 years ago
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Not an argument. Gave you a chance. I accept your concession. Filtered.
the US failing system shows a lot look at donald trump and the bison invaders
Trump was the best President in 30 years. Stop getting all your information from the media.
Thanks for admitting you're wrong. I accept your concession. Filtered.
2 years ago
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you are too pathetic and stubborn
2 years ago
Anonymous
i'm sorry for you that your parents didn't push you to school, a cereal box is not a book/
2 years ago
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>Biden >Trump >Obama >GW Bush >Clinton >HW Bush
Name me the best US president in the past 30 years.
There are your options. If you pick anyone over Trump, you're actually moronic.
2 years ago
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Obama was unironically the best
2 years ago
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You're either non-white and/or a Democrat. Thanks for exposing yourself. Filtered.
2 years ago
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Race relations did a nosedive under him
2 years ago
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whatever i'm not talking about trump i'm talking about your shitty mind telling obliviously bullshit
live in your fancy world and drink some gallium−porphyrin peroxide
because your brain is a wasted space
2 years ago
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you're special
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not an argument. Thanks for admitting I'm right. I accept your concession. Filtered.
whatever i'm not talking about trump i'm talking about your shitty mind telling obliviously bullshit
live in your fancy world and drink some gallium−porphyrin peroxide
because your brain is a wasted space
Strawman. Thanks for admitting I'm right. I accept your concession. Filtered.
2 years ago
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HI Timmy
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not an argument. Thanks for admitting I'm right. I accept your concession. Filtered.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's impossible to underestimate the potential of your stupidity
2 years ago
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Trump, no contest. He was a clown, but based as frick.
Even his politics were above average. Frick, he even got NK to get on a table with him. And that rocket man shitposting was gold.
2 years ago
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the US failing system shows a lot look at donald trump and the bison invaders
Its still around. Most big companies wont deal with it anymore though and will just try to get you to replace your unit but a smaller company will still charge your unit with R-22.
I used to live with no AC in Australian summers in a place that regularly hits 40 for a lot of summer (hell we hit 50 up north this year).
... it was awful.
Thank god we've gone away from such savage barbaric times.
How people live in Kuwait with 45-50C regularly is beyond me. You are insane. You need to leave that hell on Earth. Stop being a masochist to such extreme heat.
That said, low 30s is comfy for me. Colder is too cold for me.
>low 30s is comfy for me
What the frick, son? For me that is already way too hot, especially if it's also humid outside. Somewhere between 20-25 is the sweet spot. I don't know where exactly, but it sure as frick ain't over 25.
>Not true. Sweat accumulates on clothes and cools down the body as it evaporates.
there is nothing to cool if the ambient temperature is higher than your body temperature
2 years ago
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Heat transfer by water evaporation, it's not the air itself that cools you.
2 years ago
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If the air around you is warmer than your core body temperature evaporative cooling won't work. And if humidity is over a certain level the sweat won't evaporate at all. There are air temperature and humidity levels (I think it's 40C at 100% and 45C at 70%) where you will unavoidably die even if you are in shade/inside, drinking water, bathing in water, etc.
2 years ago
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>If the air around you is warmer than your core body temperature evaporative cooling won't work.
absolutely incorrect
2 years ago
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>If the air around you is warmer than your core body temperature evaporative cooling won't work.
I'm pretty sure the hotter it is, the easier water evaporates, thus cooling you down. The hotter it is, the more water you need to sweat, that's the only problem. >And if humidity is over a certain level the sweat won't evaporate at all.
This is the real problem, and why humidity can and will make heat more unbearable, water vapour also traps infrareds, adding to the sensation of heat. >(I think it's 40C at 100% and 45C at 70%)
Bunch of absolute bullshit, we've had 41°C with 90% humidity in the shades in the past two days in France, and I have yet to read about mass deaths. In fact, it wasn't that unbearable. During those same two days, they've had 46-47 in south-east Iraq, and again I have yet to read about mass deaths at home.
>Not true. Sweat accumulates on clothes and cools down the body as it evaporates.
there is nothing to cool if the ambient temperature is higher than your body temperature
If the air around you is warmer than your core body temperature evaporative cooling won't work. And if humidity is over a certain level the sweat won't evaporate at all. There are air temperature and humidity levels (I think it's 40C at 100% and 45C at 70%) where you will unavoidably die even if you are in shade/inside, drinking water, bathing in water, etc.
>The proper answer to AC is building homes that flow air from underground. Basically a berm style home into a hillside, exhaust in the roof section and intakes from the rear of the home underground.
That doesn't scale to multi-story buildings.
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Right, but it won't work if it's humid because the air is already saturated so no more evaporation takes place. It's like when your balls get sweaty in your pants. There air in your pants is saturated with ball sweat so no more sweat gets evaporated even though your balls are hot. Result is hot, sweaty balls that don't cool off like they should.
absolutely american moronation
look up evaporative cooling, DEC, adiabatic air humidification
I'm peak european, homosexual. >evaporative cooling, DEC, adiabatic air humidification
Yes, it reduces temperature a few degrees if you're lucky and humidity is low. Which, surprise, it's often not when it's hot. Do you know why it often rains in summer? Because the air is full of water.
2 years ago
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I accept your concession, you have come far from >it won't work over 37C
can someone redpill me on prices? is more expensive better? i need a small one for my room. the main benefits of ac is that it gets the mosquitooes off
>paint home white so it radiates heat away during summer >close the blinds and windows completely so radiation and hot air don't come inside during peak hours (mid day to 7 PM) >once the sun goes down open windows and blinds >let the cooler air come inside >home stays cool throughout the day
It's that easy.
Most people make the mistake of opening windows as soon as it gets hot, but that will only make things worse. If you follow the advice above and it's still hot put a fan at a window pushing hot air to the outside during the night so colder air can come inside.
an american thing. Have you ever heard of fences? You put a fat concrete wall around your yard, make it be covered in ivy and there, you can leave shit open at night
Unless you live in a place that's windy, in which case you should always open up everything including your arsehole. Free fan, air conditioning and so on.
Obviously, everyone does that. Nobody but morons opens windows when it's hot.
I also have a 500PSI pump that I use to mist the side of my house that I'm on. With this and a small AC, I can get my room to max 50F on a 100F day. Without the AC, it's max 70F
I literally live near Coolgardie, the place that invented the Coolgardie cooler, because it simply is not enough.
Your meat rots very quickly here and it instantly attracts flies.
And I mean frick tonnes of flies in this hellish land.
So of course this place had enough of natural coolers and replaced it with innovations.
And even that cooler was shithouse.
>Meat spoils quickly and attracts flies
It sounds like the solution is obvious. No one's forcing them to have that meat in the first place. If meat doesn't work there, why have it at all?
I’m living in uk and renting so installing a proper system isn’t a option. But I do have an old chimney in my room so I thinking about getting portable ac and exhaust it through the pipe. What are better options among portable ones? Is there a unit which pumps out and pumps in fresh air too?
>Is there a unit which pumps out and pumps in fresh air too?
That's what single-hose portable ACs do and that's what you don't want because it kills efficiency. Just think about it. Why would you want to pump in hot air from the outside when you're trying to keep the inside cool? You're just wasting money exchanging the expensive cool air you paid a lot of money for with the hot air you are trying to get rid of.
That said, if it's cooler outside, like at night, then single hose is better because it will pull in cool air.
There are air recycling heat pumps out there, but to my knowledge, none of them are small and practical. They have their condenser in the air path leading out and their evaporator in the air path leading in. That way they suck the energy out of the ventilation air before discarding it outside. This (but running in reverse) is a very common system for heating and ventilation in modern buildings in Scandinavia.
construction Is moronic nowadays.All houses are built for basically middle european climate.When I see all houses in mediteranian built like this I go mad.Instead of a flat roof with a wet cloth above it and white color to bounce of the light you have fricking thicly isolated roof for snow.House heats up and retains heat so it gets worse than outside.There are varios traditional solutions the best ones are arabic (tall celing with holes to make air flow and wet cloth).All are based on making air circulate and making cloth evaporate water.
As a burger I'll only turn mine on if inside the house gets to 90f. Which usually happens a couple times a year when it's 115+ during the summer. I have insulation panels with reflective material on one side in the windows during the day and open them at night. Having gable vents and an attic fan helps too. Usually can maintain a minimum of 10-15 degrees difference between inside and outside. I'd actually never use it if my work schedule didnt have me trying to go to sleep before the sun goes down.
This guy, Willis Carrier, invented the copper-coil condenser in 1901 that is considered the first air conditioner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Carrier
There is not a more based inventor, in my opinion.
And to every one in this thread who've never used or lived in a house with central AC before: I hope you all die...in a fire.
>cozy zone >Russia
Hot air from Central Asia goes up over Siberia making temperatures unbearable for a few weeks in summer, lakes turn into mosquitoland. Typically they go from 10°C to 35°C in about a week in June.
30-40°C is pretty typical in summer in Moscow and the Urals.
it's gonna be great watching the world burn and laughing at boomers that caused it. Fricking old pieces of shit live their entire lives in fear... hopefully god comes for them.
Stop being such fricking pussies and just use a floor fan. Your body has a built in temperature control, which the fan can accelerate. You don't need that AC shit.
Air conditioning has done far more damage to us than without. They heat the outside air even more, they use a frickton of energy, and they lowered the quality of houses by omitting good ventilation. Frick these things seriously.
White skin is literally a disability. They need technology to survive in hot climates but need warm clothing to survive in Europe. It's like using medicine to keep your unhealthy body alive that would naturally die without. It's actual dysgenics.
Grug, you are man now. You must choose. Will you stay in original home with ideal climate and plenty of wild game to hunt and stay at the same technological level for 100k years, or will you migrate to caucasus mountains, turn white and invent virtually everything leading to you dominating the whole world?
God I wish I was born above the line, but even if I move there I'll forever be an outsider and maybe get shanked by the local gangs I know nothing about, so I have no choice but to suffer 3 months a year.
The irony of AC is that when you go outside the sudden contrast in temperature makes you feel way more uncomfortable than you otherwise would have by not having AC and, err I don't know, just wearing shorts and drinking more water?
It was hot as frick in England last Friday. Literally just wear shorts and open the window. Much better than winter when it's cold as frick for like 6 months.
>It was hot as frick in England last Friday. Literally just wear shorts and open the window
It was horrible lmao, 32 C high, 70% humidity and my flat was still 28 at midnight. I'm still tired. I know we only get a few weeks of this a year, but I struggle to sleep as it is and the knock-on effect lasts ages. Plus it's getting worse every year. This time has swung it for me and I'm getting a portable AC.
>Why would you stop the planet warming up and killing millions unless it's our fault it's warming up? Just let the planet do its thing bro, frick people who live by the sea or rivers
>Why would you stop the planet warming up and killing millions
Maybe we aren't meant to live longer on this planet. The dinosaurs had the asteroids, we have the tree-huggers and vegans.
Bros florida is so hot its getting ridiculous, its like being burned alive so fricking hot. I don't know why everyone is in such a rush to move there. Like 90 something Fahrenheits.
2 years ago
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Humidity makes it feel hotter than it is.
2 years ago
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(90-32)(5/9)=32.22 degrees Celsius
You're crying over 32 degrees, what a fricking baby.
>be me >have no ac >sit on porch in my stained tighty whities held together only by the shear will of a few threads and wornout elastic >shitpost like this all day on my dumpster dived 12 year old dell inspiron laptop on my neighbors wifi >live on bussy street >wave at traffic as they pass by >theres a bus stop directly in front of my house >befriend a nice old obese black lady that waits for two hours every weekday for the bus >never let her on my porch >offered her a drink from the garden hose once when it was in the high ninties >if i had ac i wouldnt have a freind
Last year there were over 30 days over 30 degrees. The year before that we had a two week streak of over 40 degrees.
Things have changed. This year is kind of mild so far, though.
Holy shit these things suck ass. They don't cool for shit past the 90s
Is there a way to make them suck less or should gut this garbage and get a proper AC?
Stop being such fricking pussies and just use a floor fan. Your body has a built in temperature control, which the fan can accelerate. You don't need that AC shit.
Air conditioning has done far more damage to us than without. They heat the outside air even more, they use a frickton of energy, and they lowered the quality of houses by omitting good ventilation. Frick these things seriously.
The proper answer to AC is building homes that flow air from underground. Basically a berm style home into a hillside, exhaust in the roof section and intakes from the rear of the home underground.
>The proper answer to AC is building homes that flow air from underground. Basically a berm style home into a hillside, exhaust in the roof section and intakes from the rear of the home underground.
That doesn't scale to multi-story buildings.
>If the air around you is warmer than your core body temperature evaporative cooling won't work.
absolutely incorrect
Right, but it won't work if it's humid because the air is already saturated so no more evaporation takes place. It's like when your balls get sweaty in your pants. There air in your pants is saturated with ball sweat so no more sweat gets evaporated even though your balls are hot. Result is hot, sweaty balls that don't cool off like they should.
Humans are literal idiots, invented the car and air conditioner only to abuse those tech with no respect and not realize those inventions are killing everyone. I don't use air conditioning and have minimal heating in winter, it's not a problem because I work outdoors and am acclimated to weather. The problem with abusing such technologies is >too lazy to walk >drive instead >become weaker making you lazier
similar to >too hot outdoors because not used to weather >turn on a/c >become less acclimated to weather making you turn the a/c colder
Inverter means the compressor adjusts its speed of rotation on an as as needed basis. Basically means it can run contiuously instead of turning on and off all the time. This is good for efficiency and reduces mechanical stress (turning on a compressor causes strong vibration).
There's a circuit that takes a direct current and generates an alternating current with a variable frequency. The actual components of the air conditioner speed up or slow down in response to the frequency of the alternating current. The complete inverter+ motor controller system is usually called a variable frequency drive. It's not that fantastic, they've been already for decades. It's like a really bad PWM circuit. The variable range usually isn't that big
>How would we ever live without AC
Move to a climate where people are actually supposed to live.
95% of California is totally unlivable, I just moved to Washington and it's great here it's an actual livable climate
>it's an actual livable climate
355 days per year of rain and overcast. thanks but i'll pass. people will be living in california until the heat death of the universe. get used to it.
Summer is not getting hotter and hotter. In fact, summers were substantially warmer than this before the "Little Ice Age". People have lived on every corner of this planet without AC. We'd be fine, just like we were for the 100,000 years of human history where there was no AC. We'd just have to stop doing really stupid shit like living in the middle of deserts. Hello from the Las Vegas Valley, btw.
>How would we ever live without AC?
build houses the way houses are built in south US or Australia.
Plant trees everywhere, and repress the urge from cutting them when one is too big or "sick"
>he actually believes that people are contributing to climate change
Climates change anon, we're technically coming out of an ice age. Guess what happens? Shit gets hotter than during an ice age. Crazy, right?
Make sure you tell the people who live near the equator that it's OK that they're collapsing from heat exhaustion and dying from thirst and famine, because climate change is natural which means it's OK.
How is AC power produced in a generator?
How does an AC generator produce electricity? AC generators work on the principle of Faraday's law of electromagnetic induction. When the armature rotates between the magnet's poles upon an axis perpendicular to the magnetic field, the flux linkage of the armature changes continuously.
without ac seems impossible
also ac will be found with or even without Nicola Tesla participation
thunder has both ac and dc
transistor bridge dc to ac
some know what's ac was before nikola tesla he just mentioned it to be more safer to use
did you see this weekend the way Westerners were whining because Europe managed to reach some 40C temp?
the humidity is more important than the mere number.
i can guarantee you, with humidity of 80% 26C is morer unbearable than some mediterranean dry ass fricking area with 40C.
what a bunch of weak homosexuals. the Africans should flood there harder.
Big fans, it's far from unlivable if less than ideal. If power went out for long periods in the summer though it would quickly lead to societal problems.
>Imagine this hellish world in which every fricking summer is getting hotter and hotter. >.01 degree every year on average
Nothingburger. More concerned about the actual CO2 itself, but probably also a nothingburger.
>the AC generates more heat outside than it does cold inside >everyone using the AC makes the world a hotter place for everyone else, forcing them to also use AC in turn
that's a heat pump not AC
They just built us a new little office building at work, and the a/c unit looks just like that. I've been told that is also a heater, but right now it's blasting cold as frick air and is virtually silent.
yes it pumps hot or cold air, but it's not air conditioning.
Christ, I forgot it's europoor hours. I know y'all haven't figured out infrastructure yet, but on this side of the pond a device that condenses air, blows the hot/room temp out the back and replaes it with fresh, cool filtered air inside, is known as air conditioning.
it does both so it's not
CENTRAL air conditioning. Imagine, Euros, having a vent (that can be individually closed if it gets too cold in one room) in every single room coming from a single air conditioning unit that cools your entire house/apartment/etc all at once.
I'm sorry you don't have what even the poorest of the poor broke as frick Americans take for fricking granted.
I want to replace my central AC with individual units because I think it would be more efficient in my home and I can use less space for ductwork and have higher ceilings in my basement
Seems better in every way to me, because then guests can set the temperature in their room. When I found out this wasn't just for hotels, but was normal in europe, I was pretty interested
Multiple ACs is definitely not normal in Europe outside of hotels, you would have to have a pretty big house for that to be useful.
Cope. Even poorgays in southern europe have AC.
It's only called sir conditioning if it also dehumidifies the air.
I'll go take a look on the back of our new building at work in an hour or so and report back. Am fairly certain there will be a hose for draining the water/condensation created by the device in op's picrel
there will be, any type of phase change cooling produces condensation, and that unit is phase change.
It's only called sir conditioning if thr guy who installed it was named rajesh
it can do that too, welcome to the future
I am Swiss, Switzerland is arguably the best country to live in. We don't havr ACs, despite of temperatures going up to 40 degrees C in Summer.
Why?
Because we are not homosexuals, that's why.
Kek enjoy never owning your own home white Black person.
>We don't havr ACs
>why
Because you are homosexuals. You are European and thus gay. All europeans enjoy dick in the booty.
> We don't havr ACs, despite of temperatures going up to 40 degrees C in Summer.
oh shut up moron lmao
you literally wouldn't survive a summer in southern italy without AC, no shit that you can live without it in your cold mountain shithole
And what, fricking 2% humidity? Dumbshit.
It conditions the air. It's an air conditioner.
air conditioning is what is done to air.
heat pump is how thing works.
As you can see, two are not mutually exclusive.
Dude are you moronic?
This is split system air conditioning.
it can regulate temperature in every room separately and what is most important it pull out excessive humidity of of the room (something that outdated burger trash cant do)
It literally conditions the air by means of extracting heat from one side to another. Where as AC only does that one way.
>It literally conditions the air by means of extracting heat from one side to another. Where as AC only does that one way.
These are literally called "split AC systems". Yes, they use heat pumps, so does your shitty HVAC.
Not all heat pumps are ACs, but all ACs are heat pumps
This is not true. For an AC unit to be a heat pump is needs a reversing valve. Most use electric heat or if you live up north you probably have a gas furnace.
No, the "conditioning" portion of an air conditioner is the fact that is also removes humidity.
An "Air Conditioner" is just a term used to describe a heat pump that also de-humidifies during its normal operation.
Phase change cooling and thermo-electric cooling are both types of heat pumps
That's a heat pump, moron. ACs are less efficient and generally not set up to function as heaters, even though it's the same technology so they could.
ACs are heat pumps
Heat pumps are just ac with variable valve.
Modern split system ACs are also heatpumps.
Temps reach 40C degrees (above 100F) where I live and I still manage to get by with only a fan as I can't bother to get my AC fixed. I am lucky though since my room faces north and I have another floor above me. I open all windows at night to cool the walls and floor, and during the day the fan blowing air around is more than enough to have the walls and floor absorb the little heat me and my computer put out.
AC is much cheaper and more efficient than a woodstove. You also don't stink up the neighbourhood.
Uninhabitable to subhumans like you maybe.
Wait this is what you guys call heat pumps?
I've been reading news that euros are trying to replace their gas heating with A SUPER MODERN TECH CALLED HEAT PUMPS, and I was thinking it was some new advanced tech... But no, it's a fricking split AC that everyone in the third world has had for over a decade.
Wow. Kinda disappointing.
Heat pumps are just AC running backwards, the feature really should be standard on all AC units but it isn't
>Wait this is what you guys call heat pumps?
No one calls this heat pump. It is a heat pump, but so is any AC.
>Heat pumps are just AC running backwards
No, it doesn't matter in which direction the heat is transferred. It's always a heat pump.
>semantics
You know what we mean, dumb Black person
Never had air conditioning in a house. I live in a temperature climate. Nothing a fan can't fix.
Same. I have a window unit but it doesn't usually work when I want to use it at night (like to sleep cold) because the outdoor temperature is under 60F and the compressor won't turn on below that.
>I have a window unit but it doesn't usually work when I want to use it at night (like to sleep cold) because the outdoor temperature is under 60F and the compressor won't turn on below that.
wut
I choose to stay indoors when it gets that cold.
what is a temperature climate? pretty sure all of us have temperatures in our climates..
Hello morono it’s a climate where it doesn’t too hot nor too cold
It’s the white man’s climate found in western europe
>white man’s climate found in western europe
Spaniards, Italians and Greeks are not white people.
>western Europe
>greeks
Ok Black person
He meant to say "temperate"
Based weather adapter chad
Adapting to weather is one step closer to innawoods
Houses used to be built according to environment. Hot place = 10+ foot ceilings.
Everything must be mass produced though, so we build same shit everywhere, thus the need for mechanical interfetterance
this
they even did shit like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windcatcher
>interfetterance
it is called infetterence senpai
I live in an apartment from the 1870s with 12ft ceilings. Still sucks dick in the summer without AC
It can be -40C in the winters and +35C in the summers where I live. What do?
Relocate.
No
8ft ceilings log home
I'm from the Great Lakes region and the weather is like that here too with lake humidity, it can be brutal. I don't use a/c. I'm lucky I live in a brick house, if you can find that fortune in such area, the brick insulates a lot and soaks heat well. My trick is box fan in window pointed outward in summer, ceiling fan (reverse mode for winter), and on the hottest or coldest days, you just gotta deal wid it
Create a heat storage battery
>10+ foot ceilings.
does that actually help?
Heat rises dum dum.
Lol I don't use AC, I acclimate.
Nothing is better than a hike in the desert during peak summer. Sweat pouring. Cleanses mind body and soul. Makes day to day life mild as can be. I can't stand watching gaygits race from car to store, ac to ac. So fricking soft and pathetic. Once you acclimate a nice day is a nice day and at worst you get a mild sweat under your hat, if that's too much find some fricking shade or a fan.
>Lol I don't use AC, I acclimate.
If you live in pakistan, iran or iraq and do this, you are literally killing yourself slowly.
Wrong. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.
>enter melanoma
That said, apparently we have confirmation on some sun screens being also carcinogenic.
The only solution is to simply not have skin.
So I guess Fallout Ghouls are the future.
Only expired sunscreen is. But you can also always use a sun umbrella, like the Koreans
Muscle atrophy, kys homosexual
>If you live <..>, you are literally killing yourself slowly
Think about it.
>just eat the bugs
No.
I forgot the part where life was impossible in those regions before AC was invented.
This
I can't stand modern human weakness.
Pathetic to observe.
I hate brown people so much
>winter
light the woodstove
>summer
open the window
do morons really spend half their income on climate control?
you forgot about fans
>you forgot about fans
Fans are basically useless during the day with very hot temperatures. Only useful at night with the windows open.
>open the window
I do opposite. Open the windows at night, close them(and curtains) in the daytime. Even when it's +40 outside it is around a few degrees cooler inside.
You must be proud to live in a location where this shit is good enough. You'd beg for a fricking AC living where I fricking live. Open a window, my ass. Open a window and let more fricking sweltering, hot, humid goddamn air in, yeah, sure, great goddamn solution you got there.
You are a whiny little baby.
>whiny
I want to see you live in a hot and humid environment with just a window open.
See how much you fricking whine.
I bet it's a whole goddamn lot.
Fricking idiots who have never lived in hot, humid places never understand how fricking miserable it is. Imagine not only being hot, but not being able to get comfortable because the air is moist as frick so you can't properly get rid of any heat on your body, so you just sit and suffer. You don't even have to be doing anything, just sitting or laying down perfectly still, and you can barely fricking breathe, you sweat profusely, and you're miserable as frick.
You never been in this situation, you don't understand. Just admit it. Be a grown man and admit it instead of continuing to whine and groan and snap back memes and insults at me like a little child, like most of fricking IQfy does.
People who know better than you should be listened to. You aren't fricking all knowing. Get over yourself.
silly africans seem to be doing fine with their open-air concept shacks
they're also naturally adapted to it
a lot of white people don't even sweat properly from years of never having to survive closer to the equator from canada. they have weird stuff going on where they'll only sweat from their armpits, head, and crotch but nowhere else no matter how hot they get, then they keel over and die.
RACE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT REEEEE
You sound american. Stop eat your mcburgers and being a b***h you fat frick and you won't have the problems you described.
Living in a shit environment sucks but its no unlivable like you describe it, unless you are a landwhale that is.
>I want to see you live in a hot and humid environment with just a window open.
this, holy frick it's miserable. and it doesn't even get THAT hot where I live, it's just the humidity that makes it miserable as frick.
>75f and 96% humidity
>top-floor, middle apartment
>small 1bdr
>all the heat from my downstairs neighbor rises up to me
>warmed up from both sides
>consistently +15f inside without AC
>running window fans all night did frick all because the cold would escape through walls into neighbor's
>running dehumidifier would just warm up apartment
>wake up with cold sweats
>sweat does not evaporate
>Fricking idiots who have never lived in hot, humid places never understand how fricking miserable it is.
australian here. a lot of euros and americans cannot comprehend the heat, especially in this country. they think it's like just one or two days in summer instead of weeks on end of 40c+ cooking you alive. without air conditioning, most of australia would cease to function.
Same here in South Texas, the days are around 100F but with 40% humidity so the sweat just stays on your body and never leaves. The nights are just as bad too, with temps hovering around 85F and 40% humidity.
Europoors dont understand. They think Spain is hot.
Yeah, we do because it's pretty hot if you're from central or eastern Europe you nutsack licker. We don't have to think about what might be hot to an American because it's irrelevant to us.
where are u at? africa or south/central america
Just move out of Delhi, Rajesh. Stop complaining about the climate in the third-world shithole where you live and then simultaneously acting like you're so cool for living there. Holy shit.
Those are forms of climate control.
You literally can't rent a place here without functioning AC its a law because its to fricking hot. Everytime we get a heatwave you hear about homeless people dying because from how hot it gets.
>Everytime we get a heatwave you hear about homeless people dying because from how hot it gets.
It's called survival of the fittest and there's nothing wrong with it.
that's survival of the rich. being fit has barely any impact on homelessness.
can't they just like go to a river
>solution to being hot inside is to open window and let more hot air in
fricking have a nice day
Amerimutt.
If you open the windows you're fricked, you'll fill your home with hot wind
You should try and turn your home into a cave during the day and open it during the night when it's cool
>you'll fill your home with hot wind
Better than stale air.
>Better than stale air.
Stale air is better than blowing yourself with a hair drier.
>hair drier
Than what?
You heat up and die.
>You should try and turn your home into a cave during the day
Anon a cave is defined by having at least one opening to the outside.
hosting my own server means my computer needs cool air
This is America though, we’ve chopped down all the trees and made our houses as inefficient as possible.
>This is America though, we’ve chopped down all the trees
America is literally more tree-covered than it was when the pilgrims landed here. We did cut the shit out of our old growth forests though.
>winter
theres no winter where i live
>summer
>open the window
mosquitoes gets in and also it's 30c+
Never even seen AC in my entire life though I suspect there might be one at work but I don't care much for it. Generally speaking, I live high up and have gigantic windows facing the west so it gets very fricking warm during summer but I tend to just submit. Open all windows as wide as possible at all times and bask in the scorcher. Usually, due to the height, I get a really nice breeze going as well.
When I'm outside during high temps I feel much worse than when I'm inside but still sit right in the sun. What actually pisses me off during summer are the wasps, bees and gigantic hornets that always come inside. Insect nets make me feel like I'm sitting in a prison so I don't have those.
>europoors haven't even invented window screens
moron.
>Insect nets make me feel like I'm sitting in a prison so I don't have those.
>europoors need to stick their head out the window like an ape
>amerisharts stay in their cooled cuckpods drinking corn syrup.
>3 bedroom 1.5 bath house with a nice sized yard is considered a cuckpod
Are you okay, eurogay? You people don't even have yards.
>look at my spacious cardboard
And yes we do have yards
>cardboard
>literally a brick house
Keep trying, keep failing. Love how wrong you are and how obsessed you are with America & Americans.
Cardboard with a nice paintjob.
>bricks = cardboard
You eurogays aren't the brightest I see. Keep obsessing over America & Americans. Sad that you have no culture of your own.
>Keep obsessing over America & Americans.
All you people do is talk about America and Americans 24/7. Hell, most sites you use are probably American. Try again though.
Not an argument. Thanks for admitting I'm right. I accept your concession. Filtered.
>American talking about culture
American culture comes from Europe, we need a man like you as president of America, I hope you ban everything made from Europe, so you can live in your tipi scratching balls again and eat grass daily
>he thinks a US President can just ban everything
Eurogay showing once again they know nothing about America.
you know nothing about your own country go back to school dumb gay
Not an argument. You think the President can ban shit. Not how our system works. Next time, either admit you're wrong like a man or do your research prior to posting.
if it's shit don't use it go lick stones and die from malnutrition
Not an argument. Gave you a chance. I accept your concession. Filtered.
Trump was the best President in 30 years. Stop getting all your information from the media.
Thanks for admitting you're wrong. I accept your concession. Filtered.
you are too pathetic and stubborn
i'm sorry for you that your parents didn't push you to school, a cereal box is not a book/
>Biden
>Trump
>Obama
>GW Bush
>Clinton
>HW Bush
Name me the best US president in the past 30 years.
There are your options. If you pick anyone over Trump, you're actually moronic.
Obama was unironically the best
You're either non-white and/or a Democrat. Thanks for exposing yourself. Filtered.
Race relations did a nosedive under him
whatever i'm not talking about trump i'm talking about your shitty mind telling obliviously bullshit
live in your fancy world and drink some gallium−porphyrin peroxide
because your brain is a wasted space
you're special
Not an argument. Thanks for admitting I'm right. I accept your concession. Filtered.
Strawman. Thanks for admitting I'm right. I accept your concession. Filtered.
HI Timmy
Not an argument. Thanks for admitting I'm right. I accept your concession. Filtered.
It's impossible to underestimate the potential of your stupidity
Trump, no contest. He was a clown, but based as frick.
Even his politics were above average. Frick, he even got NK to get on a table with him. And that rocket man shitposting was gold.
the US failing system shows a lot look at donald trump and the bison invaders
Joe Biden is much better
But all the Freon the AC releases makes the world hotter.
Not my problem. I will leave this problem to my future children (which I won't have any).
>2022
>freon
Its still around. Most big companies wont deal with it anymore though and will just try to get you to replace your unit but a smaller company will still charge your unit with R-22.
Never had an AC in my life. Imagine having to rely on some shit to exist
>Imagine having to rely on some shit to exist
>How would we ever live without AC?
I just do. It's an inconvenience you can just ignore.
Easy, we wouldn't work in summer. Just chill, like nature intended.
Nature intended for us to hunt and gather at least a couple days per week for the whole year.
yea. So what if it's hot you just jump into a fricking lake or a stream to cooldown and wash.
Then why are Black folk afraid of water?
there could be crocodiles n shiet
You’re about to find out
I don't like the looks of those dubs
I used to live with no AC in Australian summers in a place that regularly hits 40 for a lot of summer (hell we hit 50 up north this year).
... it was awful.
Thank god we've gone away from such savage barbaric times.
How people live in Kuwait with 45-50C regularly is beyond me. You are insane. You need to leave that hell on Earth. Stop being a masochist to such extreme heat.
That said, low 30s is comfy for me. Colder is too cold for me.
>low 30s is comfy for me
What the frick, son? For me that is already way too hot, especially if it's also humid outside. Somewhere between 20-25 is the sweet spot. I don't know where exactly, but it sure as frick ain't over 25.
>What would we do without AC
Sweat.
does nothing if the ambient temperature is above 37 or so
It depends on the humidity.
Not true. Sweat accumulates on clothes and cools down the body as it evaporates.
>Not true. Sweat accumulates on clothes and cools down the body as it evaporates.
there is nothing to cool if the ambient temperature is higher than your body temperature
Heat transfer by water evaporation, it's not the air itself that cools you.
If the air around you is warmer than your core body temperature evaporative cooling won't work. And if humidity is over a certain level the sweat won't evaporate at all. There are air temperature and humidity levels (I think it's 40C at 100% and 45C at 70%) where you will unavoidably die even if you are in shade/inside, drinking water, bathing in water, etc.
>If the air around you is warmer than your core body temperature evaporative cooling won't work.
absolutely incorrect
>If the air around you is warmer than your core body temperature evaporative cooling won't work.
I'm pretty sure the hotter it is, the easier water evaporates, thus cooling you down. The hotter it is, the more water you need to sweat, that's the only problem.
>And if humidity is over a certain level the sweat won't evaporate at all.
This is the real problem, and why humidity can and will make heat more unbearable, water vapour also traps infrareds, adding to the sensation of heat.
>(I think it's 40C at 100% and 45C at 70%)
Bunch of absolute bullshit, we've had 41°C with 90% humidity in the shades in the past two days in France, and I have yet to read about mass deaths. In fact, it wasn't that unbearable. During those same two days, they've had 46-47 in south-east Iraq, and again I have yet to read about mass deaths at home.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/11/climate/deaths-pacific-northwest-heat-wave.html
absolutely american moronation
look up evaporative cooling, DEC, adiabatic air humidification
I'm peak european, homosexual.
>evaporative cooling, DEC, adiabatic air humidification
Yes, it reduces temperature a few degrees if you're lucky and humidity is low. Which, surprise, it's often not when it's hot. Do you know why it often rains in summer? Because the air is full of water.
I accept your concession, you have come far from
>it won't work over 37C
>tfw when using AC all of last month increased my electric bill by 200%
how do i cope bros?
Get more money, obviously.
I'm dealing with that problem myself.
God damn capitalism, whipping me into doing something other than jerking off and crying.
Put some PV on your roof. It's hottest when the sun shines, perfect overlap.
It is 15c and I'm sweating up in here, wish there was some AC.
let me introduce you to 15 dollars of european tech
>my fan current needs a clamp to keep running
Fricking thing sucks.
We'll do it live.
yeah, we european always ahead of technological advancements, with a technology more that 70 years old
>tile cutter
>no tiles
He hasn't cut them yet, bozo.
I do not have an AC and it's 40C, never had an AC, never was a problem. Stop being obese and drink water instead of soda.
can someone redpill me on prices? is more expensive better? i need a small one for my room. the main benefits of ac is that it gets the mosquitooes off
>paint home white so it radiates heat away during summer
>close the blinds and windows completely so radiation and hot air don't come inside during peak hours (mid day to 7 PM)
>once the sun goes down open windows and blinds
>let the cooler air come inside
>home stays cool throughout the day
It's that easy.
Most people make the mistake of opening windows as soon as it gets hot, but that will only make things worse. If you follow the advice above and it's still hot put a fan at a window pushing hot air to the outside during the night so colder air can come inside.
>now my home looks like an obvious target to rob
Yeah well done.
Do americans really live in a constant fear of getting robbed or shot?
Yes, all because some israelites wanted slaves instead of paying working-class whites
an american thing. Have you ever heard of fences? You put a fat concrete wall around your yard, make it be covered in ivy and there, you can leave shit open at night
Unless you live in a place that's windy, in which case you should always open up everything including your arsehole. Free fan, air conditioning and so on.
Obviously, everyone does that. Nobody but morons opens windows when it's hot.
I also have a 500PSI pump that I use to mist the side of my house that I'm on. With this and a small AC, I can get my room to max 50F on a 100F day. Without the AC, it's max 70F
In 99% of the world - a fan and a towel soaked in cold water is enough.
The rest of the world would be uninhabitable.
Simple as.
I literally live near Coolgardie, the place that invented the Coolgardie cooler, because it simply is not enough.
Your meat rots very quickly here and it instantly attracts flies.
And I mean frick tonnes of flies in this hellish land.
So of course this place had enough of natural coolers and replaced it with innovations.
And even that cooler was shithouse.
>australia
Literally the definition of second case in my original post. Therefore it would be uninhabitable and not a lot would be lost.
>Meat spoils quickly and attracts flies
It sounds like the solution is obvious. No one's forcing them to have that meat in the first place. If meat doesn't work there, why have it at all?
I’m living in uk and renting so installing a proper system isn’t a option. But I do have an old chimney in my room so I thinking about getting portable ac and exhaust it through the pipe. What are better options among portable ones? Is there a unit which pumps out and pumps in fresh air too?
>Is there a unit which pumps out and pumps in fresh air too?
That's what single-hose portable ACs do and that's what you don't want because it kills efficiency. Just think about it. Why would you want to pump in hot air from the outside when you're trying to keep the inside cool? You're just wasting money exchanging the expensive cool air you paid a lot of money for with the hot air you are trying to get rid of.
That said, if it's cooler outside, like at night, then single hose is better because it will pull in cool air.
There are air recycling heat pumps out there, but to my knowledge, none of them are small and practical. They have their condenser in the air path leading out and their evaporator in the air path leading in. That way they suck the energy out of the ventilation air before discarding it outside. This (but running in reverse) is a very common system for heating and ventilation in modern buildings in Scandinavia.
When will A/C body suits come into existence.
Can't even keep my body cool and fully protected by UV rays, why even live.
I'd say about 30 years, When it won't be possible to go outside in some places without active cooling.
>When it won't be possible to go outside in some places without active cooling.
Imagine seriously believing this
already is the case in some places spergo
Is that before or after my house is multiple meters under the sea?
>How would we ever live without AC?
by opening the windows?
construction Is moronic nowadays.All houses are built for basically middle european climate.When I see all houses in mediteranian built like this I go mad.Instead of a flat roof with a wet cloth above it and white color to bounce of the light you have fricking thicly isolated roof for snow.House heats up and retains heat so it gets worse than outside.There are varios traditional solutions the best ones are arabic (tall celing with holes to make air flow and wet cloth).All are based on making air circulate and making cloth evaporate water.
They ought to start constructing houses with cooling materials too
As a burger I'll only turn mine on if inside the house gets to 90f. Which usually happens a couple times a year when it's 115+ during the summer. I have insulation panels with reflective material on one side in the windows during the day and open them at night. Having gable vents and an attic fan helps too. Usually can maintain a minimum of 10-15 degrees difference between inside and outside. I'd actually never use it if my work schedule didnt have me trying to go to sleep before the sun goes down.
Do people actually use AC in their computer room?
That's like having AC while you have the heater on.
yep, frick being hot.
The government ought to start forcing people to build houses with cooling bricks
> The government ought to start forcing people
Shalom
burgers WILL pay top dollar to live in a cardboard house and they WILL like it.
burgers can't be fixed, they didn't read the story of the three little pigs during childhood
but winter
thats what europoors have to go though every year
It only lasts like two weeks so I couldn't give a frick.
ACs, refrigerators and cars heat up the ecosystem
The heat of the AC, refrigerator and car cooks the atmosphere
I should probably get some installed in my house, but my house has been designed with decent passive cooling. I have a while yet.
This guy, Willis Carrier, invented the copper-coil condenser in 1901 that is considered the first air conditioner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Carrier
There is not a more based inventor, in my opinion.
And to every one in this thread who've never used or lived in a house with central AC before: I hope you all die...in a fire.
And now they are the crappiest AC manufacturer.
White people just don't live any lower than England. If they do, they're mentally ill and always angry for a reason.
Eh, I'd drop it down to mid-France, but you're mostly spot on. Since brown people hate the cold it helps with that too.
>cozy zone
>Russia
Hot air from Central Asia goes up over Siberia making temperatures unbearable for a few weeks in summer, lakes turn into mosquitoland. Typically they go from 10°C to 35°C in about a week in June.
30-40°C is pretty typical in summer in Moscow and the Urals.
>a few weeks
So no AC required? Just hide out in a nice cool cave or something and don't go back home until the sun goes down
lol see how cool your northern europe countries are when the atlantic gulf stream fails
it's gonna be great watching the world burn and laughing at boomers that caused it. Fricking old pieces of shit live their entire lives in fear... hopefully god comes for them.
geothermal doesn't have this problem
>cozy zone
more like daylight only for 6 months / winter depression zone
>more like daylight only for 6 months / winter depression zone
Comfy, yes.
White skin is literally a disability. They need technology to survive in hot climates but need warm clothing to survive in Europe. It's like using medicine to keep your unhealthy body alive that would naturally die without. It's actual dysgenics.
Grug, you are man now. You must choose. Will you stay in original home with ideal climate and plenty of wild game to hunt and stay at the same technological level for 100k years, or will you migrate to caucasus mountains, turn white and invent virtually everything leading to you dominating the whole world?
God I wish I was born above the line, but even if I move there I'll forever be an outsider and maybe get shanked by the local gangs I know nothing about, so I have no choice but to suffer 3 months a year.
Last summer was pretty cold and wet.
The irony of AC is that when you go outside the sudden contrast in temperature makes you feel way more uncomfortable than you otherwise would have by not having AC and, err I don't know, just wearing shorts and drinking more water?
It was hot as frick in England last Friday. Literally just wear shorts and open the window. Much better than winter when it's cold as frick for like 6 months.
>Much better than winter when it's cold as frick for like 6 months.
homosexual pussy detected.
>It was hot as frick in England last Friday. Literally just wear shorts and open the window
It was horrible lmao, 32 C high, 70% humidity and my flat was still 28 at midnight. I'm still tired. I know we only get a few weeks of this a year, but I struggle to sleep as it is and the knock-on effect lasts ages. Plus it's getting worse every year. This time has swung it for me and I'm getting a portable AC.
fix climate change
Why would you stop Earth from doing its own thing?
>Why would you stop the planet warming up and killing millions unless it's our fault it's warming up? Just let the planet do its thing bro, frick people who live by the sea or rivers
Frick the planet, frick the future generation and frick humanity
ANNIHILATION NOW
#endlife
>Why would you stop the planet warming up and killing millions
Maybe we aren't meant to live longer on this planet. The dinosaurs had the asteroids, we have the tree-huggers and vegans.
Lol frick off
Imagine thinking the world is actually getting hotter…
Have you gone outside?
>It's hot in summer
I feel discombobulated learning this.
Bros florida is so hot its getting ridiculous, its like being burned alive so fricking hot. I don't know why everyone is in such a rush to move there. Like 90 something Fahrenheits.
Humidity makes it feel hotter than it is.
(90-32)(5/9)=32.22 degrees Celsius
You're crying over 32 degrees, what a fricking baby.
>be me
>have no ac
>sit on porch in my stained tighty whities held together only by the shear will of a few threads and wornout elastic
>shitpost like this all day on my dumpster dived 12 year old dell inspiron laptop on my neighbors wifi
>live on bussy street
>wave at traffic as they pass by
>theres a bus stop directly in front of my house
>befriend a nice old obese black lady that waits for two hours every weekday for the bus
>never let her on my porch
>offered her a drink from the garden hose once when it was in the high ninties
>if i had ac i wouldnt have a freind
Be German, we only have ACs in stores
We only have 1-2 hot weeks a year. We have not really a reason for ACs.
Last year there were over 30 days over 30 degrees. The year before that we had a two week streak of over 40 degrees.
Things have changed. This year is kind of mild so far, though.
Last year was all rain.
>Last year was all rain.
Not where I live.
>buy house
>95F arid climate
>it has swamp cooler
Holy shit these things suck ass. They don't cool for shit past the 90s
Is there a way to make them suck less or should gut this garbage and get a proper AC?
Get an AC asap, those fricking swamp coolers will frick your lungs with fungus
Stop being such fricking pussies and just use a floor fan. Your body has a built in temperature control, which the fan can accelerate. You don't need that AC shit.
Air conditioning has done far more damage to us than without. They heat the outside air even more, they use a frickton of energy, and they lowered the quality of houses by omitting good ventilation. Frick these things seriously.
For
learn what the dew point is you dumb c**t. see how well your sweat works with a dew point in the high 70's.
lol just get one of those room moisture remover thingies with the melting pellets. They're like a pound/dollar each.
>your body has a built in temperature control
i am one of those white people that doesn't sweat correctly. i only sweat from my head.
The proper answer to AC is building homes that flow air from underground. Basically a berm style home into a hillside, exhaust in the roof section and intakes from the rear of the home underground.
>The proper answer to AC is building homes that flow air from underground. Basically a berm style home into a hillside, exhaust in the roof section and intakes from the rear of the home underground.
That doesn't scale to multi-story buildings.
Right, but it won't work if it's humid because the air is already saturated so no more evaporation takes place. It's like when your balls get sweaty in your pants. There air in your pants is saturated with ball sweat so no more sweat gets evaporated even though your balls are hot. Result is hot, sweaty balls that don't cool off like they should.
Multistory homes don't scale to the declining possibility humans continue to exist on this planet in the next 50-100 years.
WTF are you talking about? Even my families house on their farm has 3 floors.
How do you live in a cuckshed with a 10 people?
>mfw ac unit is busted
>mfw been without ac for almost two weeks
>mfw live in AZ
send help.
Humans are literal idiots, invented the car and air conditioner only to abuse those tech with no respect and not realize those inventions are killing everyone. I don't use air conditioning and have minimal heating in winter, it's not a problem because I work outdoors and am acclimated to weather. The problem with abusing such technologies is
>too lazy to walk
>drive instead
>become weaker making you lazier
similar to
>too hot outdoors because not used to weather
>turn on a/c
>become less acclimated to weather making you turn the a/c colder
Harden up, humans
>gatekeeping quality of life
lmao
it's not ,.,quality of life'`' if you feel like garbage anytime you step outside your climate controlled bubble
okay?
>Imagine this hellish world in which every fricking summer is getting hotter and hotter.
But I though climate change wasnt real?
imagine needing ac
Can somebody explain me what the frick is the Inverter technology? Is it just a meme?
Inverter means the compressor adjusts its speed of rotation on an as as needed basis. Basically means it can run contiuously instead of turning on and off all the time. This is good for efficiency and reduces mechanical stress (turning on a compressor causes strong vibration).
There's a circuit that takes a direct current and generates an alternating current with a variable frequency. The actual components of the air conditioner speed up or slow down in response to the frequency of the alternating current. The complete inverter+ motor controller system is usually called a variable frequency drive. It's not that fantastic, they've been already for decades. It's like a really bad PWM circuit. The variable range usually isn't that big
Can this be retrofitted on any compressor or does it need a certain kind designed for varying speed to work?
>How would we ever live without AC
Move to a climate where people are actually supposed to live.
95% of California is totally unlivable, I just moved to Washington and it's great here it's an actual livable climate
>it's an actual livable climate
355 days per year of rain and overcast. thanks but i'll pass. people will be living in california until the heat death of the universe. get used to it.
I thought yall don't believe in climate change?
No need for AC or heat if you live underground
Ahhh yearly time of IQfy to get filled with even moar moronic shit than usual
Go outside nerds
Without AC we wouldn't be able to use our Nvidia cards
65 deg North, i dont especially need an AC.
I just do not get it
why are there always people who sperg out or gatekeep like this when improvements are suggested
They're trying to justify their shitty living conditions and cope with being poor.
Summer is not getting hotter and hotter. In fact, summers were substantially warmer than this before the "Little Ice Age". People have lived on every corner of this planet without AC. We'd be fine, just like we were for the 100,000 years of human history where there was no AC. We'd just have to stop doing really stupid shit like living in the middle of deserts. Hello from the Las Vegas Valley, btw.
>every fricking summer is getting hotter and hotter.
citation needed
>citation needed
My thermometer.
>How would we ever live without AC?
build houses the way houses are built in south US or Australia.
Plant trees everywhere, and repress the urge from cutting them when one is too big or "sick"
Heat into the 40s can be livable until you add high humidity, then your sweat won't even evaporate
living in this 50 year old house is fricking horrible in summer
it was build so it can stand -50 but not +50 (those are celsius, not kelvin)
Of course it's not kelvin, it's a strictly positive scale.
There are definitions of temperature that allow negative temperature in kelvins.
>noooooooooooo not the heat it's too hot i need blowing thing
>proceeds to drive a 4 ton truck the heats up the earth even more
>he actually believes that people are contributing to climate change
Climates change anon, we're technically coming out of an ice age. Guess what happens? Shit gets hotter than during an ice age. Crazy, right?
>wahwah climate change is not caused by humans
Stupid /misc/schizoid
Not an argument. Thanks for admitting I'm right. I accept your concession. Filtered.
Not an argument, thanks for admitting I'm right. I accept your concession. Filtered.
Stay mad.
Make sure you tell the people who live near the equator that it's OK that they're collapsing from heat exhaustion and dying from thirst and famine, because climate change is natural which means it's OK.
How is AC power produced in a generator?
How does an AC generator produce electricity? AC generators work on the principle of Faraday's law of electromagnetic induction. When the armature rotates between the magnet's poles upon an axis perpendicular to the magnetic field, the flux linkage of the armature changes continuously.
without ac seems impossible
also ac will be found with or even without Nicola Tesla participation
thunder has both ac and dc
transistor bridge dc to ac
some know what's ac was before nikola tesla he just mentioned it to be more safer to use
>Ray Make
Thanks Ray, how are the kids? Let's have a cool out some time!
- Ted
I simply live with the heat
t. eastern mongol rapebaby from an area where it gets to -40 in winter and +40 in summer
did you see this weekend the way Westerners were whining because Europe managed to reach some 40C temp?
the humidity is more important than the mere number.
i can guarantee you, with humidity of 80% 26C is morer unbearable than some mediterranean dry ass fricking area with 40C.
what a bunch of weak homosexuals. the Africans should flood there harder.
ok, woman.
Plenty of European countries have high humidity.
Someone explain to me why cities in Arizona exist. Why do we force children to be born and live their lives there?
It started with a desire for gold and ended with old people that can't generate body heat moving there like iguanas
Big fans, it's far from unlivable if less than ideal. If power went out for long periods in the summer though it would quickly lead to societal problems.
It's currently 50°C in south east Iraq, how would burgers cope?
>hot = shitload of sun
>put solar cells on roof
>run AC off solar-generated electricity
>no additional electricity costs
woah, that was hard
>hot = shitload of sun
hot = shitload of warm air and possibly humidity
I don't have ac and am doing okay. My house is surrounded by trees tho.
>Imagine this hellish world in which every fricking summer is getting hotter and hotter.
>.01 degree every year on average
Nothingburger. More concerned about the actual CO2 itself, but probably also a nothingburger.
I have this exact AC. Excellent cooling machine
>the AC generates more heat outside than it does cold inside
>everyone using the AC makes the world a hotter place for everyone else, forcing them to also use AC in turn
ACs are literally the prisoner dilemma.
it's negligible