I hate you gays so much just because you don't have a use for it doesn't mean it's useless. I have a family and we have hundreds of terabytes of media. I don't want to have to leave my PC running just for them to watch something on Plex.
I also don't want them to waste bandwidth on games on Steam when I could just leave the install on Plex and move it over whenever we wanna play Helldivers or something.
the kind you build your own and throw truenas core on it
>when several different file protocols exist
what the frick are you talking about moron
I cant just store a 100GB encode for all my favorite shows on my PC, it fills up too fast.
I hate you gays so much just because you don't have a use for it doesn't mean it's useless. I have a family and we have hundreds of terabytes of media. I don't want to have to leave my PC running just for them to watch something on Plex.
I also don't want them to waste bandwidth on games on Steam when I could just leave the install on Plex and move it over whenever we wanna play Helldivers or something.
that doesnt justify nas either way because any pc with drives and ssh does the same function
I just mount the shares in windows and access it like a normal drive lol. The only drawback is read/write speeds on my network but that's why I have fast local storage on my PC for temp work, and even then, things like streaming music or movies from it is plenty fast.
https://i.imgur.com/EAIAt6q.jpg
What's the best NAS for hosting my pirated anime/manga collection?
Literally just any PC and a hard drive. If you have an old laptop or something get a few external drives and setup smb. Servers are a lot of fun to tinker with. With pre built NAS boxes you're paying for the enclosure mostly.
SELF BUILT. ALWAYS. With prebuilt shits you are paying 2x for what is probably the same Intel SoC that $100 ITX boards have with 0% of the upgradeability and you get is a slightly more compact device with some bullshit software that is eclipsed in every metric by TrueNAS.
>having to use le terminal to access your data through the network
Is this the same "you don't need a home server" mongoloid?
>What the frick does that even mean
This is what it means: >No one, besides me, uses my computer. I can't comprehend that other people may have multiple users (friends, family members) that regularly access shared data that is hosted by a machine in their residence. I'm a loser with no regular contact with friends or family so I'll make something up that'll confuse clueless people
tldr:
Llife exists beyond chinese cartoons and porn hoarding.
You're a loser for basing success on how codependent you are on your fellow bugmen, loser. And you sound like a hormonal woman too. Are you lost, moron?
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Huh? Perhaps you need some therapy to deal with some underlying personal issues regarding success and interpersonal relationships.
2 months ago
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Yep, there it is. The petty Reddit NPC, who was raised by a single mom, is unable to directly express his hostility and so resorts to impotent passive aggression and condescension.
2 months ago
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Cry harder.
2 months ago
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You're such a pathetic manlet you have to act like one even on an anonymous forum. Let that sink in.
2 months ago
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k
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Thanks for communicating your buttmad mental state with that ebin short response, woman.
For maximum data protection build or repurpose an old computer and use Freenas/Truenas as your os. You also get more power/ram than you would outta some small ass box. You gotta think long term. How easy would it be to replace it all? Movies, blah fire up your torrent client of choice and you got a shit pot of them back in no time if something happened. Getting back some hq scan of some babe from the January issue of an old issue of Playboy? Not so easy.
anything you can install Linux, connect to network and mount multiple hard drives should suffice for a starter system
don't spend more money on it unless you need ro
>transcoding >I want to stream my shows to my TV
Is this something people expect when speaking of NASes in general? Honestly have no clue, every time see a NAS topic I'm like >"why doesn't that anon just install more drives?"
>Is this something people expect when speaking of NASes
No idea, I've never had one. I think synology NASes come with media streaming apps but im not sure
>>"why doesn't that anon just install more drives?"
my collection is starting to get pretty huge and i think it just makes sense to have a dedicated machine for it. some shows are like 200GB on their own and i dont want to clog up my PC storage. i guess its also partially for preservation, if i find a good release of a show i like and it disappears from the internet somehow i still want to be able to watch it
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still I would prefer to set up some raspberrypi-like little machine for low power consumption with external drives connected than buying nas from israelites
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will probably end up doing something like that with a stronger cpu for transcoding
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>some shows are like 200GB on their own
don't start downloading 4K shit, 200GB is one season of Westworld lol
Docker with jellyfin or if you want to pay for transcoding then emby. Frick plex. Or do kodi, or core elec if you don’t feel like doing the server side part and just want a folder structure library with a client app to browse
you dont need transcoding to stream to tv. holy frick this thread is full of morons
i swear every time i go back to IQfy i get to see more moronation. why i ever bother
Err, I think I currently mount with cifs, but it's just one command I run from my bash history when I boot my linux box over the weekends. Don't use it all that often. I just use the Jellyfin app most of the time and I've got Jellyfin Server on the Synology.
NTA, but it depends on the drives. prebilt NAS are generally horrible for noise compared to a real PC case. Modern big storage drives are loud as all frick too. The quietest of the big drives I've found are WD Red Plus, but they cap out at 14TB.
NAS drives are unbearably noisy in that flimsy plastic case. I spent (wasted) money on 4x4tb SSDs and it's completely silent. 3 years and still zero drive errors as it's mostly read only for plex.
I have an old psu with motherboard and 8gb of RAM and I bought a 4TB HDD to host a jellyfin server, I setup SSH, VPN on my router with DDNS, qbittorent-nox to manage my torrents from any machine, pretty neat to me
I personally have a different one. Which I use to plug to my router. Bought it for $26 a year or so ago. Works fine for network storage system. And can access from my smartphone/desktop/etc. I've also used it to an old laptop of mine as an encrypted storage system too.
no sshfs chads? i just mount my whole other pc, leave it on for seeding 24/7. morons constantly saying shit like "i don't wanna leave my pc on" because they think it costs any actual amount of money to let it idle at 20w, it's like $30 for a year of idle in electricity.
Occasionally. I said earlier I wanted to be able to stream from it but I realized I don't actually need to. I'm fine with downloading a show directly to my computer if I ever want to rewatch. The main purpose is just for storing good releases of shows for safekeeping. If I get the urge to rewatch a show in 5 years I don't want to go to nyaa only to find the best release has 0 seeders and basically vanished from the internet.
You probably aren’t going to rewatch most anime. Just getting a very large external hd should be enough to backup the high quality shows you liked. Archivist autism wastes so much time. On Newegg a 12 terabyte 3.5” hdd is only $99:
https://www.newegg.com/seagate-exos-x14-st12000nm0558-12tb/p/1Z4-002P-02KJ2
Wtf, I just found out that Nyaa is back. It was gone for months maybe even over a year(I stopped checking at some point).
A friend has about 4-5 big boxes full of 1-2TB sized external HDD's. The dude keeps an excel sheet of all the musics, movies, books and vintageporn of what he has collected and on which drive is it. Archiving is a hell of a rabbit hole.
newbie.
The amount of shows from fricking 2010, let alone 1999, that you can't get in decent quality nowadays in official or pirated form is ridiculous. It ain't hoarding. It's more archiving.
The amount of shit I would never have found with baka is beyond me.
Add google and bing censorship and DRM restrictions to search results and you have the greatest anime memory hole of all time.
>Asus Lockerstor
Tried live demo, not bad, still doesn't feel like full desktop like with synology but it's close.
https://www.asustor.com/live_demo
Calling those NAS feels kinda wrong and it's also confusing many posters here. It's much more than simple network storage. Back in the day those where called like "server appliances" or something like that Cobalt Cube being one of the first.
The sheer amount of people in this thread who have no idea about energy efficiency, redundancy and reliability is too damn high
If you don't know what a NAS is for, don't buy one. If you think your 15 year old shitbox or improvised raspi storage can outperform a modern NAS in any metric, you're delusional.
For real, read up about NAS before you post inane shit like "who needs this" or stay the frick away from computers in general
also i'm moving april 1 and just built a new PC with 2.5GbE so i'm debating trying to squeeze in a PCIE 2.5GbE adapter or upgrading to a more recent used poweredge entirely after I move
impressive
I plan on building a NAS for the home and I always think about how much space I truly "need". I'd like to go maximum like you have but even then I wonder "what the frick could I even put on this that I don't already have or want"
>48 days uptime
plug everything in, install truenas, create pool, create SMB shares and user accounts/permissions, haven't touched it since
i bought a cheap 4tb nvme drive and $8 PCIE nvme adapter from Amazon to use as download cache, as writing to the pool kind of kills performance
impressive
I plan on building a NAS for the home and I always think about how much space I truly "need". I'd like to go maximum like you have but even then I wonder "what the frick could I even put on this that I don't already have or want"
it's nice having effectively limitless storage that's completely private, and ZFS should prevent bitrot, and i have double parity so unlikely to lose anything to hardware failure
I'm building a library of videogame ROMs for everything from intellivision to PS2/gamecube/dreamcast and setting up VPNs to my siblings/friends houses so they can have access to the whole library without having to hunt down rom sites
i've also been filling it with untouched bluray backups and it gives me freedom to seed torrents for as long as I want
I bought a cheap ryzen mini-pc to run as a server, it hosts jellyfin to stream my music library to my phone anywhere, and I setup syncthing to act as a private camera roll (also syncs my keepass database across phone/PCs)
you got 7 disks in same zfs pool?
isn't that bad? some tech guy on youtube (the bald one) said he refactored it for better performance (from one large pool to two smaller or something)
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it's potentially suboptimal but still easily maxes out a gigabit ethernet link
which actually i'm not entirely sure how it manages as it should only have the write speed of a single disk, but i'm able to hit almost 600MB/s write speed when transferring from the internal nvme to the HDD pool. maybe these MDD drives are just that fast, or ZFS has gotten better.
i'm using double parity fwiw
I have a 10 year old PC that I want to use as a server and NAS device, mostly since the case has like 5 3.5in slots. I would run Ubuntu Server on the machine. What's the best software for running a NAS on the machine? Keep in mind I would like to use the server for other stuff too.
4k HDR blurays are 45~90 GB per disc
VR porn also has some ridiculous filesizes
the entire english PS2 library torrents on ggn are 3TB+, not including undub versions
you gays know NAS refers to the setup and usage right? it's not a brand name >oh why would you get a NAS when you can just build a PC with a bunch of drives in it and use it as a file server
that literally IS a NAS
OP here. Thoughts on this build for $650?
https://blog.briancmoses.com/2023/03/diy-nas-2023-edition.html
All I need is something small that will sit in the closet and store my anime, manga, and family photos. Also quiet/reliable, so no laptops with external drives or anything like that.
Previously I was using an old Ivy Bridge PC from 2012 as an always-on file server. But the power supply murder-suicided the motherboard and itself.
So I spent $475 on this setup:
$90 Intel 12100T
$20 Thermalright Ass King SE CPU cooler
$110 Asus Prime H610I-Plus D$ Mini ITX Motherboard
$50 32GB DDR4-3200 memory
$100 Fractal Design Node 304 mini ITX case support for ATX PSU and 6x 3.5" drives
$105 be quiet Pure Power 12M 650W Gold PSU
but later I had to add a $20 HBA card to support all 6 disks since the board only has 4 SATA ports. I missed that because I didn't add the drives while picking parts. So I couldn't add a cheap Mellanox card for 10gbe like I had planned. Oops.
I think you could do something like this on an even lower budget. If you use it as a 4 bay NAS you could add a used 10gbe card. It's reasonably compact (20L), quiet when disks are sleeping (it has 3 position switch on the back to adjust fan noise), and wasn't too expensive.
Cons: It isn't very flexible with only 4 SATA ports and 1 PCIE slot. It probably still uses more power than one of those Synology NAS appliances. It doesn't have ECC support.
https://www.labgopher.com/servers/Tower/
https://www.ebay.com/itm/176189962082?toolid=10050
$90 (shipped to NE USA) poweredge t310
$40 32 GB ECC RAM https://www.ebay.com/itm/181582016005
$25 dell h310 HBA (flash to IT mode yourself) https://www.ebay.com/itm/145661944137 https://fohdeesha.com/docs/perc.html
$30 3x 5.25" to 3x 3.5" HDD adapter w/ 80mm fan (swap for 80mm noctua if you're boujie like me) https://www.amazon.com/EverCool-Dual-Drive-Triple-Cooling/dp/B0032UUGF4
congrats you have space for 7x 3.5" drives and two PCIe slots (after HBA) to fill with network adapters/nvme drives/sata SSDs for ~$185 (on-board SATA lacks a proper AHCI mode)
with 7x 18TB MDD drives this setup peaks around 280w at boot-up and idles between 90-150w depending on disk activity (I seed constantly so they never fully spindown), without the HDDs it's like 30-50w idle (I also have a 4tb nvme for download cache and 2x 1TB sata SSDs for truenas system drive) (tested with kill-a-watt)
for me it's truenas core running on a trashpicked poweredge t300 with 7x 18TB refurb enterprise drives
>https://www.labgopher.com/servers/Tower/https://www.ebay.com/itm/176189962082?toolid=10050
$90 (shipped to NE USA) poweredge t310
$40 32 GB ECC RAM https://www.ebay.com/itm/181582016005$25 dell h310 HBA (flash to IT mode yourself)https://www.ebay.com/itm/145661944137https://fohdeesha.com/docs/perc.html$30 3x 5.25" to 3x 3.5" HDD adapter w/ 80mm fan (swap for 80mm noctua if you're boujie like me) https://www.amazon.com/EverCool-Dual-Drive-Triple-Cooling/dp/B0032UUGF4
congrats you have space for 7x 3.5" drives and two PCIe slots (after HBA) to fill with network adapters/nvme drives/sata SSDs for ~$185 (on-board SATA lacks a proper AHCI mode)
with 7x 18TB MDD drives this setup peaks around 280w at boot-up and idles between 90-150w depending on disk activity (I seed constantly so they never fully spindown), without the HDDs it's like 30-50w idle (I also have a 4tb nvme for download cache and 2x 1TB sata SSDs for truenas system drive) (tested with kill-a-watt)
No thanks. You can keep your dumpster dive garbage to yourself.
Some 3rd worlder may buy it, but not for 90$ shipped without all that other stuff youre suggesting
a 2nd pc (old parts) with hard drives in it
btrfs array accessed via sshfs because it just werks
off-site backups via restic
use the pc for hosting other shit as desired too while you're at it
Old Tower, i5, 12tb hard drive. Ubuntu server, portainer, a VPN service, overseer, radar, sonarr, Plex premium or jellyfin, mergerfs learn the terminal.
Get a onn streaming device for $20 if you don't want to transcode. Of course morons on here will spend a small fortune.
uhhh QRD on the point of a NAS when several different file protocols exist in the year of 2024? what is the point?
There is no point other than to feel like le ebin leet haxxor having to use le terminal to access your data through the network.
?
just use ssh + rsync. there, now you have a kick. and use whatever http or rtp to view your videos live on the network.
using a NAS for personal use is like buying a tractor trailer to haul your camping equipment, it just makes 0 sense and is beyond overkill
?
what?
it shows up as a network drive in Finder
>6TB
cute
I hate you gays so much just because you don't have a use for it doesn't mean it's useless. I have a family and we have hundreds of terabytes of media. I don't want to have to leave my PC running just for them to watch something on Plex.
I also don't want them to waste bandwidth on games on Steam when I could just leave the install on Plex and move it over whenever we wanna play Helldivers or something.
>when I could just leave the install on Plex and move it over whenever
had no idea you could do this
So your use for it is storing your entire Steam library locally because you can't afford a proper internet connection? Oh my reddit...
that doesnt justify nas either way because any pc with drives and ssh does the same function
Nobody wants to leave their computer on 24/7 moron
>nas is not just glorified computer with cpu
sure buddy moron
You are so fricking moronic.
I do, chuddie
>anime avatar
>moronic nonsense
every fricking time
I just mount the shares in windows and access it like a normal drive lol. The only drawback is read/write speeds on my network but that's why I have fast local storage on my PC for temp work, and even then, things like streaming music or movies from it is plenty fast.
Literally just any PC and a hard drive. If you have an old laptop or something get a few external drives and setup smb. Servers are a lot of fun to tinker with. With pre built NAS boxes you're paying for the enclosure mostly.
>f you have an old laptop or something get a few external drives
What's a good external enclosure for HDDs?
No clue. If you're starting out just get an external drive on sale. They're usually the cheapest way to get new HDDs anyway.
has a link that compares prices among different sellers.
TrueNAS to manage the drives, and Jellyfin/Plex to serve the files as streamable media
Ponder the scent
SELF BUILT. ALWAYS. With prebuilt shits you are paying 2x for what is probably the same Intel SoC that $100 ITX boards have with 0% of the upgradeability and you get is a slightly more compact device with some bullshit software that is eclipsed in every metric by TrueNAS.
>having to use le terminal to access your data through the network
Is this the same "you don't need a home server" mongoloid?
Can you build a NAS that's as quiet, performant, and small as this for $300? No? Thought so.
the kind you build your own and throw truenas core on it
>when several different file protocols exist
what the frick are you talking about moron
>what the frick are you talking about moron
Answer him you tool
I cant just store a 100GB encode for all my favorite shows on my PC, it fills up too fast.
then use a server,
home server used for sftp/ssh/rsync =/= NAS
>several different file protocols
What the frick does that even mean
>What the frick does that even mean
This is what it means:
>No one, besides me, uses my computer. I can't comprehend that other people may have multiple users (friends, family members) that regularly access shared data that is hosted by a machine in their residence. I'm a loser with no regular contact with friends or family so I'll make something up that'll confuse clueless people
tldr:
Llife exists beyond chinese cartoons and porn hoarding.
You're a loser for basing success on how codependent you are on your fellow bugmen, loser. And you sound like a hormonal woman too. Are you lost, moron?
Huh? Perhaps you need some therapy to deal with some underlying personal issues regarding success and interpersonal relationships.
Yep, there it is. The petty Reddit NPC, who was raised by a single mom, is unable to directly express his hostility and so resorts to impotent passive aggression and condescension.
Cry harder.
You're such a pathetic manlet you have to act like one even on an anonymous forum. Let that sink in.
k
Thanks for communicating your buttmad mental state with that ebin short response, woman.
For maximum data protection build or repurpose an old computer and use Freenas/Truenas as your os. You also get more power/ram than you would outta some small ass box. You gotta think long term. How easy would it be to replace it all? Movies, blah fire up your torrent client of choice and you got a shit pot of them back in no time if something happened. Getting back some hq scan of some babe from the January issue of an old issue of Playboy? Not so easy.
Do you have an old desktop/laptop you could just throw some drives in?
anything you can install Linux, connect to network and mount multiple hard drives should suffice for a starter system
don't spend more money on it unless you need ro
what about transcoding? I want to stream my shows to my TV
so just build a cheap media server?
>transcoding
>I want to stream my shows to my TV
Is this something people expect when speaking of NASes in general? Honestly have no clue, every time see a NAS topic I'm like
>"why doesn't that anon just install more drives?"
>Is this something people expect when speaking of NASes
No idea, I've never had one. I think synology NASes come with media streaming apps but im not sure
>>"why doesn't that anon just install more drives?"
my collection is starting to get pretty huge and i think it just makes sense to have a dedicated machine for it. some shows are like 200GB on their own and i dont want to clog up my PC storage. i guess its also partially for preservation, if i find a good release of a show i like and it disappears from the internet somehow i still want to be able to watch it
still I would prefer to set up some raspberrypi-like little machine for low power consumption with external drives connected than buying nas from israelites
will probably end up doing something like that with a stronger cpu for transcoding
>some shows are like 200GB on their own
don't start downloading 4K shit, 200GB is one season of Westworld lol
Docker with jellyfin or if you want to pay for transcoding then emby. Frick plex. Or do kodi, or core elec if you don’t feel like doing the server side part and just want a folder structure library with a client app to browse
you dont need transcoding to stream to tv. holy frick this thread is full of morons
i swear every time i go back to IQfy i get to see more moronation. why i ever bother
>a thing that needs to host billions of SATA HDDs and SSDs inside some sort of casing
Isn't that like what a normal PC is built for?
Just build one yourself, they sell motherboards for that.
I have this and it works flawlessly. You're paying premium for the software though.
I have the 423+ and it's brilliant. Most IQfy users are allergic to anything that just works out of the box for some reason.
how to properly mount them on linux? cifs in fstab? rclone?
Err, I think I currently mount with cifs, but it's just one command I run from my bash history when I boot my linux box over the weekends. Don't use it all that often. I just use the Jellyfin app most of the time and I've got Jellyfin Server on the Synology.
Are these quiet?
NTA, but it depends on the drives. prebilt NAS are generally horrible for noise compared to a real PC case. Modern big storage drives are loud as all frick too. The quietest of the big drives I've found are WD Red Plus, but they cap out at 14TB.
NAS drives are unbearably noisy in that flimsy plastic case. I spent (wasted) money on 4x4tb SSDs and it's completely silent. 3 years and still zero drive errors as it's mostly read only for plex.
synology approved ssds?
WD RED SA500s I can vouch for. $300ish now.
no, but they still let you use them (for now)
having to pay premium for something that is so easy to set up yourself is so stupid
Only it's not easy. Setting up something like syno os with web desktop and all, probably weeks wasted if it's even possible.
i can ssh just fine to my server, which is also serving as a nas
why do you need a web interface to use the os?
>why do you need a web interface to use the os?
He's moronic.
I have an old psu with motherboard and 8gb of RAM and I bought a 4TB HDD to host a jellyfin server, I setup SSH, VPN on my router with DDNS, qbittorent-nox to manage my torrents from any machine, pretty neat to me
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0734G79FW
I personally have a different one. Which I use to plug to my router. Bought it for $26 a year or so ago. Works fine for network storage system. And can access from my smartphone/desktop/etc. I've also used it to an old laptop of mine as an encrypted storage system too.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BTHQKHFP
no sshfs chads? i just mount my whole other pc, leave it on for seeding 24/7. morons constantly saying shit like "i don't wanna leave my pc on" because they think it costs any actual amount of money to let it idle at 20w, it's like $30 for a year of idle in electricity.
do you ever even watch any of it?
Occasionally. I said earlier I wanted to be able to stream from it but I realized I don't actually need to. I'm fine with downloading a show directly to my computer if I ever want to rewatch. The main purpose is just for storing good releases of shows for safekeeping. If I get the urge to rewatch a show in 5 years I don't want to go to nyaa only to find the best release has 0 seeders and basically vanished from the internet.
You probably aren’t going to rewatch most anime. Just getting a very large external hd should be enough to backup the high quality shows you liked. Archivist autism wastes so much time. On Newegg a 12 terabyte 3.5” hdd is only $99:
https://www.newegg.com/seagate-exos-x14-st12000nm0558-12tb/p/1Z4-002P-02KJ2
Wtf, I just found out that Nyaa is back. It was gone for months maybe even over a year(I stopped checking at some point).
A friend has about 4-5 big boxes full of 1-2TB sized external HDD's. The dude keeps an excel sheet of all the musics, movies, books and vintageporn of what he has collected and on which drive is it. Archiving is a hell of a rabbit hole.
>. It was gone for months maybe even over a year(I stopped checking at some point).
no it wasn't
pies or the now-superior chink copies thereof
tiny, no noise, virtually no cost and versatile
>storing anime
How many times do you even rewatch any show? Seems pointless to waste storage on anime
newbie.
The amount of shows from fricking 2010, let alone 1999, that you can't get in decent quality nowadays in official or pirated form is ridiculous. It ain't hoarding. It's more archiving.
The amount of shit I would never have found with baka is beyond me.
Add google and bing censorship and DRM restrictions to search results and you have the greatest anime memory hole of all time.
I mean you'll eventually grow up one day and get tired of cartoons. It's certain it will happen.
X11SSH/X11SSM supermicro motherboard with coreboot for schizo approved setup.
Need more space
Literally any shit ass pc/laptop you have lying around with Debian, a few drives/externals, and SnapRaid+MergerFS.
Using external drives, for a server, is moronic. This is why pi based NASes are moronic, in addition to laptops.
Because? Mines has been going strong for 2 years, and it's just a laptop and a bunch of external hardrives
>external drives
Aren't these loud and only work over USB?
my nas is a usb stick
i put it in my pocket and plug it into whatever pc im sitting at and bam, all my files are there.
I recommend the Asus Lockerstor series. Same amount of power under the hood, just cheaper.
Currently have mine setup with Jellyfin and plays like a charm
are they noisy?
Not really besides a slight hum and click of the hard drives. I can hear if i get real close to it but that is it.
>Asus Lockerstor
Tried live demo, not bad, still doesn't feel like full desktop like with synology but it's close.
https://www.asustor.com/live_demo
Calling those NAS feels kinda wrong and it's also confusing many posters here. It's much more than simple network storage. Back in the day those where called like "server appliances" or something like that Cobalt Cube being one of the first.
but you can install truenas on it, or other os
or proxmox?
Why should I get this over a self build server?
1. buy
2. put in disks
3. use and enjoy
and not worry about it at all
With NAS you're not buying the hardware but OS.
>With NAS you're not buying the hardware but OS.
But Debian is free
for me, it's a custom low power TrueNAS scale build
The sheer amount of people in this thread who have no idea about energy efficiency, redundancy and reliability is too damn high
If you don't know what a NAS is for, don't buy one. If you think your 15 year old shitbox or improvised raspi storage can outperform a modern NAS in any metric, you're delusional.
For real, read up about NAS before you post inane shit like "who needs this" or stay the frick away from computers in general
my router has a usb port but it only does SMB1.0 and windows won't connect because it's a "security risk"
update over ssh or openWRT
you can force windows to use smb1.0, doesn't really matter on lan.
for me it's truenas core running on a trashpicked poweredge t300 with 7x 18TB refurb enterprise drives
You do not need that much data.
and you didn't need to post that yet here we are
no, I wanted it, and it was the most I could reasonably fit in this case/psu
I'm slowly filling it with bluray backups
also i'm moving april 1 and just built a new PC with 2.5GbE so i'm debating trying to squeeze in a PCIE 2.5GbE adapter or upgrading to a more recent used poweredge entirely after I move
impressive
I plan on building a NAS for the home and I always think about how much space I truly "need". I'd like to go maximum like you have but even then I wonder "what the frick could I even put on this that I don't already have or want"
How difficult to set up and maintaine? ZFS seems complicated to my monkey brain.
stick with XFS and tried and true battle hardened FS that does not hover up memory, then file level dedupe with dedupe.pl
>48 days uptime
plug everything in, install truenas, create pool, create SMB shares and user accounts/permissions, haven't touched it since
i bought a cheap 4tb nvme drive and $8 PCIE nvme adapter from Amazon to use as download cache, as writing to the pool kind of kills performance
it's nice having effectively limitless storage that's completely private, and ZFS should prevent bitrot, and i have double parity so unlikely to lose anything to hardware failure
I'm building a library of videogame ROMs for everything from intellivision to PS2/gamecube/dreamcast and setting up VPNs to my siblings/friends houses so they can have access to the whole library without having to hunt down rom sites
i've also been filling it with untouched bluray backups and it gives me freedom to seed torrents for as long as I want
I bought a cheap ryzen mini-pc to run as a server, it hosts jellyfin to stream my music library to my phone anywhere, and I setup syncthing to act as a private camera roll (also syncs my keepass database across phone/PCs)
you got 7 disks in same zfs pool?
isn't that bad? some tech guy on youtube (the bald one) said he refactored it for better performance (from one large pool to two smaller or something)
it's potentially suboptimal but still easily maxes out a gigabit ethernet link
which actually i'm not entirely sure how it manages as it should only have the write speed of a single disk, but i'm able to hit almost 600MB/s write speed when transferring from the internal nvme to the HDD pool. maybe these MDD drives are just that fast, or ZFS has gotten better.
i'm using double parity fwiw
seriously, HOW?
maybe some internal small SSD as a buffer
Windows Server on a rack.
I have a 10 year old PC that I want to use as a server and NAS device, mostly since the case has like 5 3.5in slots. I would run Ubuntu Server on the machine. What's the best software for running a NAS on the machine? Keep in mind I would like to use the server for other stuff too.
>What's the best software for running a NAS on the machine?
xpenology be it in vm or baremetal
- A PCI raid card that holds 4 or 8 NVMe.
- Encrypt the raid volume using dmcrypt-plain with a non standard cipher and hash and mode.
- Format encrypted volume with XFS.
- Repeat the same on a few external SSD's for backing up your data.
- Ignore the H8r's.
What's the point of NVMe RAID unless you have >10gbit LAN? And I'd go with HBA + ZFS RAIDZ/mirror anyway.
1. because-I-can.tld
2. future proofing for all the illegitimate babies.
3. the internet will be gone soon so we must hover up all-the-things.mp3
What are you people even storing?
For me it's movies and tv and pornography and entire backups for a year of all my machines and my wife's mac
High resolution media. Lots of movies, TV series, music, photos and videos. A single TV series with a couple of seasons takes up 100+GB easily.
linux isos
4k HDR blurays are 45~90 GB per disc
VR porn also has some ridiculous filesizes
the entire english PS2 library torrents on ggn are 3TB+, not including undub versions
>he doesn't download hacked databases from shady russian forums
An ATX case, the lowest power draw processor you can buy, and a SAS card
Then you install debian
you gays know NAS refers to the setup and usage right? it's not a brand name
>oh why would you get a NAS when you can just build a PC with a bunch of drives in it and use it as a file server
that literally IS a NAS
OP here. Thoughts on this build for $650?
https://blog.briancmoses.com/2023/03/diy-nas-2023-edition.html
All I need is something small that will sit in the closet and store my anime, manga, and family photos. Also quiet/reliable, so no laptops with external drives or anything like that.
Previously I was using an old Ivy Bridge PC from 2012 as an always-on file server. But the power supply murder-suicided the motherboard and itself.
So I spent $475 on this setup:
$90 Intel 12100T
$20 Thermalright Ass King SE CPU cooler
$110 Asus Prime H610I-Plus D$ Mini ITX Motherboard
$50 32GB DDR4-3200 memory
$100 Fractal Design Node 304 mini ITX case support for ATX PSU and 6x 3.5" drives
$105 be quiet Pure Power 12M 650W Gold PSU
but later I had to add a $20 HBA card to support all 6 disks since the board only has 4 SATA ports. I missed that because I didn't add the drives while picking parts. So I couldn't add a cheap Mellanox card for 10gbe like I had planned. Oops.
I think you could do something like this on an even lower budget. If you use it as a 4 bay NAS you could add a used 10gbe card. It's reasonably compact (20L), quiet when disks are sleeping (it has 3 position switch on the back to adjust fan noise), and wasn't too expensive.
Cons: It isn't very flexible with only 4 SATA ports and 1 PCIE slot. It probably still uses more power than one of those Synology NAS appliances. It doesn't have ECC support.
looks nice. what OS? TrueNAS Scale?
debian cause i'm a boomer
10gbe?
https://www.labgopher.com/servers/Tower/
https://www.ebay.com/itm/176189962082?toolid=10050
$90 (shipped to NE USA) poweredge t310
$40 32 GB ECC RAM https://www.ebay.com/itm/181582016005
$25 dell h310 HBA (flash to IT mode yourself) https://www.ebay.com/itm/145661944137 https://fohdeesha.com/docs/perc.html
$30 3x 5.25" to 3x 3.5" HDD adapter w/ 80mm fan (swap for 80mm noctua if you're boujie like me) https://www.amazon.com/EverCool-Dual-Drive-Triple-Cooling/dp/B0032UUGF4
congrats you have space for 7x 3.5" drives and two PCIe slots (after HBA) to fill with network adapters/nvme drives/sata SSDs for ~$185 (on-board SATA lacks a proper AHCI mode)
with 7x 18TB MDD drives this setup peaks around 280w at boot-up and idles between 90-150w depending on disk activity (I seed constantly so they never fully spindown), without the HDDs it's like 30-50w idle (I also have a 4tb nvme for download cache and 2x 1TB sata SSDs for truenas system drive) (tested with kill-a-watt)
you'll also need a bunch of SATA power splitters but the 375w dell psu can easily handle it despite only including 2x sata power
>https://www.labgopher.com/servers/Tower/https://www.ebay.com/itm/176189962082?toolid=10050
$90 (shipped to NE USA) poweredge t310
$40 32 GB ECC RAM https://www.ebay.com/itm/181582016005$25 dell h310 HBA (flash to IT mode yourself)https://www.ebay.com/itm/145661944137https://fohdeesha.com/docs/perc.html$30 3x 5.25" to 3x 3.5" HDD adapter w/ 80mm fan (swap for 80mm noctua if you're boujie like me) https://www.amazon.com/EverCool-Dual-Drive-Triple-Cooling/dp/B0032UUGF4
congrats you have space for 7x 3.5" drives and two PCIe slots (after HBA) to fill with network adapters/nvme drives/sata SSDs for ~$185 (on-board SATA lacks a proper AHCI mode)
with 7x 18TB MDD drives this setup peaks around 280w at boot-up and idles between 90-150w depending on disk activity (I seed constantly so they never fully spindown), without the HDDs it's like 30-50w idle (I also have a 4tb nvme for download cache and 2x 1TB sata SSDs for truenas system drive) (tested with kill-a-watt)
No thanks. You can keep your dumpster dive garbage to yourself.
Some 3rd worlder may buy it, but not for 90$ shipped without all that other stuff youre suggesting
a 2nd pc (old parts) with hard drives in it
btrfs array accessed via sshfs because it just werks
off-site backups via restic
use the pc for hosting other shit as desired too while you're at it
Old Tower, i5, 12tb hard drive. Ubuntu server, portainer, a VPN service, overseer, radar, sonarr, Plex premium or jellyfin, mergerfs learn the terminal.
Get a onn streaming device for $20 if you don't want to transcode. Of course morons on here will spend a small fortune.