Why is System76 re-inventing the wheel? We already have GTK and QT even though they might not be free, they work fine. We already have gnome, which works just fine too. What's with all the hype?
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Should've just ditched GAYNOME and used KDE Plasma instead.
>shilling krashde for free
Good morning sirs
>Why is System76 re-inventing the wheel?
Because why not
> We already have GTK and QT even though they might not be free, they work fine.
They are free, both of them. But they don't work fine for them.
> We already have gnome, which works just fine too. What's with all the hype?
not fine enough for them. They want tiling and developers that are not up their own arse.
No because its C++
>it has a top bar and CSD so its basically gnome.
you ever used GNOME?
C++ is based
C++ is why it krashes. Cosmic is using Rust for good reason.
Plasma is too unstable and other DEs are too old and clunky. Let’s see how COSMIC works out
I used it with NVIDIA graphics and it worked fine though. Probably easier to better it than writing an entire new thing from scratch which will take many years to even become usable.
Honestly nobody knows, especially since they are just re-creating GNOME except with way less features.
>less features
Kind of dumb to say that when the DE is only just about to get an alpha release. Having watched the interview Brodie had it's plainly obvious they're aiming to to provide something much more like KDE than GNOME.
What makes it a GNOME “””clone”””?
they heard bryan lunduke say that in his podcast
literally who
some clueless dipshit
Its because Gnoem is a piece of shit
How so? And how is Cosmic going to solve those issues?
by not being shit
Nice.
You can improve Gnome massively with even a minimal amount of tweaks. I use a WM but I'd imagine they're just doing some basic stuff and it's still way better.
when does it release
alpha will be available in in the next release of pop_OS i think.
From then onwards its unknown how much time it will take to reach stable.
They should just take their time that way they can hit the ground running and destroy gaynome, kde, xfce once and for all
the only reason i use kde is its ease of use. i will switch to cosmic if it is as easy to use and looks better because kde is ugly
Because nobody wants to or can work with gnome
Surprised this company is still in business if they waste their resources on frivolous projects like this.
Does anybody actually buy their stuff?
>Surprised this company is still in business if they waste their resources on frivolous projects like this.
They get donations just for Pop!OS so they have more than enough to pay for devs to do this for their own products.
Literally nobody likes Gnome. The only reason anyone bothers with it is because they think KDE still krashes every five seconds.
>hype
it just gnome-clone written in rust. it's like rewriting a book someone already wrote.
Lomiri is being launched in the 24.04 repos.
They should just use that.
looks like gnome for me
>Why is System76 re-inventing the wheel?
Check out this on IQfy's wiki: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Emmanuele_Bassi#Pop.21_OS.2FSystem76_fight
It started with System76 rightfully calling out Gnome during the transition from Gnome 3/GTK3 to Gnome 40/GTK4. Gnome devs as usual made breaking changes that lead to their ecosystem being more restrictive. Gnome wontfixed System76 which lead to them breaking away from both GTK and Gnome to make their own desktop environment.
why popos and cosmic look so ugly? even kde looks like a pinnacle of design compared to those
>why popos and cosmic look so ugly? even kde looks like a pinnacle of design compared to those
cosmic looks way nicer than the bloated old looking shit like kde and this is their first alpha
>Why is System76 re-inventing the wheel?
maintaining their extensions on GNOME took too much time, since no stable API
they wanted to build a proper DE, and decided that GNOME wasn't the best pick for the base anymore
also they already have a team of rust devs
written in rust to generate as much hype as possible and attract as much troons as possible too. It just looks like gnome written in rust.
Make applications, Not Desktop. bros.
ebussy hands wrote this post. his unironic argument is that they are "wasting resources" developing a new desktop environment. turns out a lot of the devs at system76 think hes a fat homosexual.
seethe, cope, etc
>We already have GTK and QT even though they might not be free, they work fine.
GTK is slow
Qt is way behind
I will use COSMIC
>>Qt is way behind
>Let's waste a frickton of resources writing a new DE from scratch, in a meme language, instead of improving an existing DE
Freetard logic
>Let's waste a frickton of resources writing a new DE from scratch, in a meme language
what resources are they wasting?
yours?
they can afford to pay devs to make a distro so let them do it.
it seems to be worth it to their hardware
>what resources are they wasting?
Everyone's. They're already piggybacking on tons of people's work just by virtue of using Ubuntu as a base, and giving a meme DE that'll never get ready or be usable
>they can afford to pay devs
But can they afford fixing all the bugs once users start filling their bug tracker?
>make a distro
Except they don't, it's just a run-of-the-mill Shitbuntu derivative which only adds bugs
>it seems to be worth it to their hardware
Rebranded chink shit with a higher price tag is not "their" hardware
>giving a meme DE that'll never get ready or be usable
it is nearly ready for alpha, anon. take your meds.
>But can they afford fixing all the bugs once users start filling their bug tracker?
that's what paying devs does
>Except they don't, it's just a run-of-the-mill Shitbuntu derivative which only adds bugs
they removed the buggy shit known as gnome so that is progress
>Rebranded chink shit with a higher price tag is not "their" hardware
their first custom laptop VIrgo is in the works.
> Let's waste a frickton of resources writing a new DE from scratch
We're talking about the GNOME organization, right?
The organization that is responsible for the filepicker thumbnail meme?
The organization that constantly rejects merge requests from outsiders?
The organization that constantly removes features and breaks API compatibility?
The "What's the use case?" organization?
Yea, it's a wonder why PopOS stopped submitting feature requests to them and made their own DE.
>Yea, it's a wonder why PopOS stopped submitting feature requests to them and made their own DE.
The funny thing is that when COSMIC was announced, things like the file picker meme suddenly got fixed and features started rolling in faster. They know COSMIC is going to take their users.
>Qt is way behind
What cosmic cope is this? If anything, redditors were malding over QtWidgets being too complete and lacking a roadmap. It doesn't have to be rewritten with half the featureset culled every 2 years to entertain ebassi.
I'm surprised IQfy hates Poop_OS but keeps shilling the same company's unreleased alpha desktop.
pop actually rules
I guess they want to be ahead of the curve by making a desktop environment written in rust.
I don't know where they have drawn the line but it is ambitious and I like it.
This kind of enterprise has long died in the land of Linux and this is a good alternative to the current smattering of choices. Pity Unity died out. Mark was not as based as I hoped he was.
>This kind of enterprise has long died in the land of Linux and this is a good alternative to the current smattering of choices
yeah its amazing that this is even happening and I can't believe some people on IQfy want to shit on it.
fricking luddites