Whats the deal with Ivermectin? The people who developed it won the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, but now everyone in the media is saying its bad, but its not been pulled from the market.
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Remdesivir and the Covid-19 vaccines would not have recieved EUA if there were effective treatments already available for Covid, and so these cheap, generic, highly-effective, and exceptionally safe medications were suppressed. Not just Ivermectin, which appears to have a better prophylactic effect on Covid than curative, but also hydroxycloroquine and chloroquine, which were used almost universally to treat SARS-CoV-1. The US DoD has always kept an emergency supply of hydroxycloroquine in the very event of a potential viral pandemic. They didn't even tap into it during Covid.
It was never about saving lives, and now you know.
Correct
Do you know Tylenol kills more people per year than Ivermectin has ever killed in decades, after billions of doses administered, and it's not even close? Ivermectin is not just safer than acetaminophen, it actually treats deadly diseases, not just ease the symptoms of, say, a harmless headache. Yet we have no problem selling Tylenol over the counter, and handing it out like candy for any ache or pain. There have also been many studies showing Ivermectin's prophylactic value in preventing Covid, and a lot of evidence the Ivermectin Covid studies were set up to fail, with improper doses given at improper times during infection.
The point of ivermectin not being sold otc isn't that it's dangerous, it's that the diseases being treated by it require more medical attention. You don't need to see a doctor if you have a frick headache. Also, what a ridiculous thing to compare paracetamol with something that you only get with a prescription. You only get ivermectin from a doctor, so of course you'll have fewer misuse from ivermectin.
>the diseases being treated for it require more medical attention.
Wrong, basic parasitic infections, especially in the developed world, are not acutely dangerous and can be dealt with with a simple treatment regimen, like Ivermectin. The reason it's not commonly available OTC is because it's a generic, cheaply made drug that is not patentable, and thus not profitable, to the pharmaceutical industry.
>You don't need to see a doctor if you have a frick headache
You don't need to take a poisonous drug like acetaminophen to manage the symptoms of one either, but millions of people do every year, including children.
>what a ridiculous thing to compare paracetamol with something that you only get with a prescription
It's not ridiculous at all, considering the high-toxicity of acetaminophen/paracetamol compared to that of Ivermectin (Tylenol overdoses number in the thousands each year), and actually, you do not need a doctor's prescription to obtain Ivermectin, you can order it generically online.
Try again.
antiparasitics are commonly sold OTC basically everywhere in the world except america, you can easily find them in the UK and europe
That's wrong. I just checked for Switzerland and you need a prescription.
>It was never about saving lives, and now you know
I agree with this, but the question in my head is: was it profit motivated or was it designed to kill gentiles? Or was it both?
I am leaning towards profit motivated. Foreknowledge of a structural event and its resolution is a ticket to a safe investment.
Profit motivated, but also they really wanted to fast-track mRNA vaccine technology. There was some panel from 2019 or so where they straight up said (paraphrasing a bit)
>mRNA vaccines might go mainstream quick if there were some kind of catastrophe, like some kind of new virus from China
stop digging up the past. you must be gay. take your AZT!
mass murdering gays with AZT was good, they should do more of that
this, since only 41% of them are self-holocausting the rest of them require medical assistance
its good for covid
It works very well against some diseases. Covid was not one of them, it turned out. And there are some nasty side-effects you don't want to be dealing with if you're not getting any benefit from it. Especially if you take a dose intended for a horse.
>And there are some nasty side-effects you don't want to be dealing with
Such as?
>Ivermectin (Oral Route)
>Side Effects
>Along with its needed effects, a medicine may cause some unwanted effects. Although not all of these side effects may occur, if they do occur they may need medical attention.
>More common
>Difficulty in moving
>muscle pain or stiffness
>pain in the joints
>swollen, painful, or tender lymph glands in the armpit
>
>Symptoms of overdose
>Confusion about identity, place, and time
>decreased awareness or responsiveness
>severe sleepiness
I saved you the less common and rare side effects, but the list is quite long.
...Sure its not just the side-effects of parasitic die-offs?
This is the most tame list of side effects I have ever read. Literally less dangerous than paracetamol or ibuprofen.
It is potentially neurotoxic and can cause seizures, encephalopathy, psychosis, etc. if your blood brain barrier is compromised in specific ways. This is rare but it does happen.
Frick off you piece of shit.
Why?
Because it's absurd and makes no sense.
How is that? It's a well-known thing. More common in collies than humans but humans aren't completely immune to this.
Dogs are specifically at risk from Ivermectin because it passes their blood-brain barrier. This is a particular dog thing.
So you'd rather get a never ending schedule of totally ineffective mRNA shots that turn your cells into indefinite spike protein factories to protect you from Covid, with the variety of proven and potentially life-threatening side effects that may come with them, like blood clots, myocarditis, inflammatory issues, autoimmune issues, neurological issues, etc. than take a low to moderate dose of one of the most widely administered and toxicologically safe drugs in the history of medicine? That's your risk/benefit analysis?
Neither is good. Also, pretty sure doses of ivermectin that are supposedly effective against Covid aren't "low to moderate."
Is that what the studies set up to fail told you? Like the hydroxycloroquine studies, a drug that's been used for decades to safely treat other viral diseases, including SARS-CoV-1.
>Also, pretty sure doses of ivermectin that are supposedly effective against Covid aren't "low to moderate."
What are the covid doses? I mean if you know them, then you wouldn't be "pretty sure", you'd know for certain.
Half tube of horsepaste. Wonder. Dad let's me drive in the drive way. It's not rocket appliances.
Heard of conspiratards shitting out their guts with bloody diarrhea, some even dying, and the survivors getting permanent rectal incontinence after taking horse dewormer. But maybe there's something else in there
May have been thinking of this one actually
>TV man told me, and I always trust TV man, so it must be true
Well I would trust facebook man but facebook man died in a puddle of liquid shit
Who the frick uses Facebook, homosexual?
antivaxxers and conspiracy nuts
It does work as a prophylactic, which is why it became politically incorrect.
morons taking a horse sized dose does not make ivermectin bad, or mean it should be banned. That was part of the bullshit politics of Covid.
It was incredible when the FDA clowned on people for taking legitimate Ivermectin prescribed by doctors, conflating it with veterinary horsepaste, saying "you're not a horse." With that shitty logic, I can say don't get vaccinated, vaccines are used on livestock, you're not a sheep. Or, don't take antibiotics if you get sick with a bacterial infection, we use antibiotics on livestock, you're not a cow.
Do you have a bank account number? Juice was numbered during the holobunga during liquidation.
It's how they identify the true psueds out there who buy the bullshit, and parrot it at you. If you can think of your own at all you research the compound by yourself and find out.
>Especially if you take a dose intended for a horse.
I used to hate the "horse dewormer" thing as a lie by omission and disingenuous politicking, but now I understand more about the kinds of psychopathologies and terrible reading comprehension that medical communicators were dealing with. It's also why I no longer rail against redacted FDA releases, after seeing standard SAE surveillance signals confused by 60-IQ rednecks as a list of known sides.
So you are up to date on your booster shots ?
Give him a break. He got turned into an intellectual punching bag by "60iq rednecks" for literal years. I doubt he'll ever recover mentally or emotionally.
What a fricking disingenuous moron
the r word is racist
Kys
You can't even talk about the computer without mentioning a fricking horse. Yes it works wonders in horses too. It shows how badly your shit brain has been corrupted by media propaganda. Fricking dimwit. You can't help it. You cant not say something about horses. They fricking own you. Frick you.
I'll add. Recently they have been finding that fenbendazole, which is normally a dog worm medication, is helpful against leukemia in combination with regular chemo or radiation. If this helps a person survive this are you going to mention dogs to them? I bet you would if your popsci TV gods said so. I shouldn't have replied again. Frick you.
Dumb. Every thing has side effects. Common pain killer has side effects that cause stomach bleeding and heart attacks. Vitamin C has side effects that nausea, vomitting, seizure, rash, etc. Water has side effects that causes drowning, death, etc.
Which is why you shouldn't take pain killers unnecessarily. Good point.
It's good against worms. It got a Nobel prize for fighting worms. It's kept on the market to fight worms. Is that such a difficult concept for you?
it's been safely administered to billions of people around the world but yet the average american (who had never heard of it prior to 2020) has been led to believe it's simply a veterinary dewormer used on livestock that is harmful to humans. why do you think that is?
>billions of people around the world
Trillions even!
There even is an episode of doctor house where the patient dies because the dog ate his ivermectin lol
Everyone saying the horse dewormer meme is just a fricking npc
hopefully we can convince npcs to stop using antibiotics since horses use them too
>deworm your dogs
>deworm your cats
>deworm your cattle
>Hmmm ive never been dewormed, really makes me think
>NOOOO YOU CANT TAKE A DEWORMER BECAUSE...... YOU JUST SHOULDNT OK??????
Offtopic ESL turd worlder question from me. Where can I read on usual, actual medical treatment of USA and Europe countries, how it usually happens, how much does it cost and the ways to pay it. Purely for interest, I'm to medicine is what a weeb is to Japan, so I'm sort of curious. Especially about horror stories of exorbitant medical expenses from ER cases and procedures.
This is an excellent example of why politicians should keep their nose out of some things, and choose to remain completely impartial. Even when politicians have good intentions, the facts and truth become shaded and colored by peoples feelings towards the politician. It distorts the truth which creating confusion and eventually lies.
Knowing when AND WHY to remain impartial about something is a skill all good politicians needs to have. Trump does not have this skill, but the reason for why it's important is beyond his comprehension. Trump is no politician! Without a doubt he dun goofed up on this one. Tally one mark for Biden.
It helps against human BSE. That's the problem. The elites do not want us to get better.
Because it's useless in curing Covid-19 at doses safe for humans.
This is simply incorrect.
watch out for pilpul from shills. notice he used the word "cure". like laywers, online shills, are extremely careful with the language they use to try to deceive you into making an argument that's hard to defend.
the main benefit of ivermectin is as a prophylactic, meaning it's better at preventing the disease if it's taken early enough than "fixing" the disease once it's in full effect.
the studies ZOG did to dismiss its effectiveness gave people ivermectin AFTER they were already extremely sick, so they could say
>oh, it doesnt work, seems there's no treatment that can stop the china virus
Did you know that a horse medication has killed less humans than Tylenol has in these two different tramframes? That's how you know I know what I'm talking about
>Whats the deal with Ivermectin?
When you have parasitic worms and COVID, you can better fight off COVID if you get rid of your parasitic worms.
https://www.infectiousdiseaseadvisor.com/home/topics/covid19/ivermectin-antiviral-activity-reduced-covid19-transmission/
>Ivermectin was found to decrease the duration of viral shedding in patients with mild to moderate COVID-19 infection, suggesting its value as an anti-SARS-CoV-2 agent and potential to decrease COVID-19 transmission. These study findings were published in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases.
>According to the researchers, “[this] study supports the notion that ivermectin has anti-SARS-CoV-2 activity.” They concluded, “if used at the early stage of disease onset, it may shorten the isolation time and reduce [COVID-19] transmission.”
Ivermectin is a proven safe and effective prophylactic for SARS-CoV-2.
>n=50
>p=0.02
>one study
You know, if you measure the same nonexistent thing 100 times, you'll find it 2 times with p<0.02. A single study is worthless. inb4 you show 5 more studies when hundreds haven't found a significant benefit.
>I don't like your data so I'm just going to pretend it doesn't exist
Have you stayed up-to-date on your covid boosters? Oh, why not?
Every non-schizo stopped caring about the vaccine 2 years ago.
>when hundreds
Oh, all those studies that intentionally gave too much or too little of the agent, too late into infection? So designed to fail, like the hydroxycloroquine studies?
Also, note: prophylactic.
Most of the studies you are referring to were for treatment, not prophylaxis. The study referenced is for prophylaxis, which is where Ivermectin's, yes, proven use is applied. Proven in a petri dish, proven in human studies, proven in frontline healthcare since 2020.
>intentionally gave too much or too little of the agent
Take your meds
Get your booster
Oh, look, it's this vaxmaxxed homosexual who appears in every covid related thread to remind everyone how little he cares about covid anymore, but he can't seem to stop himself from looking at and engaging in these threads. Seems a little obsessive, if you ask me.
>none of your studies correct for parasites
Because that's not the point of the study, moron. The point of the study is to measure Ivermectin's ability to interfere with viral replication, which it has been proven to do so when taken at the appropriate does early enough into infection.
>Oh, look, it's this vaxmaxxed homosexual who appears in every covid related thread
Every accusation is a confession :^)
It must be sad to be you.
>why don't they correct for other factors, such as parasites
Because they don't have to, you stupid moron, if the point of the study is to determine whether the drug interferes with viral replication, which it does. Fluvoxemine, an SSRI, also interferes with viral replication, but in those studies, factors like whether more serotonin is being released into the gut of the patient aren't factored in either, because it's beside the fricking point, and has no relevance to the outcome of the study.
>The point of the study is to measure Ivermectin's ability to interfere with viral replication
If that's the point, why don't they correct for other factors, such as parasites?
>Also, note: prophylactic.
Yes, it's prophylactic. If you don't have worms when you get covid, your chances for survival will be higher. None of your studies correct for parasites. None of your studies use other dewormers as a placebo.
This.
And this.
In general, people without parasitic worms are healthier than people with parasitic worms. Shocking result really. Armchair epidemiologists are still arguing about it on Malaysian basket weaving forums to this day.
The world may never know.
this. they lost the narrative the moment they nominated the b00sted guy. clearly they don't really believe that the vax is dangerous. probably vaxed themselves.
real purebloods like me are voting for rfk.
>probably vaxed themselves.
That would explain the obsession. They made a dumb choice getting the vax and are desperately seeking some kind of reassurance by continually probing for it. I bet they got vaxed as soon as the shabbos goy Lockdown Don told them it was safe and effective.
> probably vaxed themselves.
no doubt in my mind whatsoever that /ptg/pedes and 90% of patriots.win are vaxxed.
>real purebloods like me are voting for rfk.
Well, at least you're consistent.
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>people only getting pointlessly angry at each other
You're coping for having taken it. You feel like a rube cause you are. Trump can sit, get a saline injection, and laugh as you get the real deal. You have no way of knowing. Those who did nothing were right.
I did not take Trump's "re-elect me" vaccine unlike you. You took that as soon as he said it was a miracle. But I'm consistent and you're not. You're voting for the vaxed shabbos goy and I'm not.
>muh saline
lowest-IQ cope around
>I'm consistent
You're consistently moronic and you'll turn on your cult leader the second he does something reasonable for once.
Get some reading comprehension, moron.
Stop being antisemitic and get a covid booster right now.
Why does the topic if ivermectin make vaxxies so angry? Shouldn't they be happy about having a wealth of products to use in fighting disease?
Apparently, it never was about fighting disease.
What was it about then?
Why should anyone care about their medical recommendations if they aren't interested in disease prevention?
Trump supported it so liberals and the main stream media foamed at the mouth automatically saying its bad regardless if it was or not
Trump supported the vaccine. Why did liberals support the vaccine while conservatives rejected it?
well it was a chaotic time
Over the last 2 years I've swallowed maybe 5 tubes of horse paste in total, one small dose at a time. Usually take like 1/6th of a whole tube with a fatty meal whenever I feel drowsy like I'm about to get flu, and I usually end up feeling completely fine like 2 hours later, though sometimes I need a repeat dose 1 day later. 2 years later, my lab results are spotless, my liver is fine, my brain is fine, my lungs and intestines are fine. Can /soi/entists explain this?
Maybe it's good for it's purpose, but bad for everything else. e.g. if you have small worms in muscle, it's wonder, but it's not a flu medication.
yeah doubt it's one of most important medicine ever invented
I doubt it's actually dangerous in any way except through overdose but everything is bad with an overdose
why must basedence believers like you always lie?
I'm literally not advocating taking medication unnecessarily though, I'm just unvaxxed and got called immoral for it by the government and media.
>why must basedence believers like you always lie?
because their beliefs are false
Ivermectin is good, if you have parasites, it's not flu medicine. Deal with it. It's last fricking final time for you to think, so think wisely.
It's safe, I weigh 160lbs, bought a tube, and set it to 150lbs, took it on an empty stomach with just water and went to bed, no side effects. Don't eat food prior or immediately after ingesting it because you body will absorb more of it than intended, ie it can make a dosage for 150lbs become a dosage for a 450lb human and then you'll experience aide effects. You can take it once every 2 weeks for 5 times, so 10 weeks in total.
I bought the apple flavored horse one.
>Don't eat food prior or immediately after ingesting it
The instructions tell you to not eat food because the digestive tract should be relatively empty so the worms see little but the ivermectin. Has nothing to do with covid.
Are you so underaged that you don't remember everyone being on Facebook 10-15 years ago or are you a boomer who's butthurt about getting called out?
nobody on IQfy other than election tourists ever used facebook
They also said it was horse medicine and "forgot" it is used on humans in poor countries. Strange that this racism was never called out.
Don't believe anything americans or israelites say, especially israeli american media.
This is statistically proven
good rule to live by, however
>implying that whites in america have any control over what the ZOG media says
is kind of a stretch