Based Gandalf. One of the hobbits dropped a rock down a deep hole in Moria, risking the group's position. Gandalf heard the rock drop and told the little shit that because he's such a high liability, it'd be better for the Company if he followed that rock into the abyss.
Gandalf is a favourite of mine too, though lately I have also been a fan of Samwise, Gimli and Galadriel. I feel like I only started to understand them as characters recently and they were a lot cooler than I remember them from childhood
My Silmarillion fav is pic-related
Also the one there's a thread complaining about right now because so many women and gays want to rape him
I wonder what attracts them to a chaste Catholic franchise
Tom is one of the few fantasy characters that I would really actually wanna to be. I love Conan and other sword and sorcery protagonists but Tom just has the life that I would wish for myself
There's a bunch, mostly indirect quotes but this one is kind of nice >Eldest, that’s what I am. Mark my words, my friends: Tom was here before the river and the trees; Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn. He made paths before the Big People, and saw the little People arriving. He was here before the kings and the graves and the Barrow-wights. When the elves passed westward, Tom was here already, before the seas were bent. He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless – before the Dark Lord came from Outside.
Simple but some good imagery and subtle rhythm
There's a bunch, mostly indirect quotes but this one is kind of nice >Eldest, that’s what I am. Mark my words, my friends: Tom was here before the river and the trees; Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn. He made paths before the Big People, and saw the little People arriving. He was here before the kings and the graves and the Barrow-wights. When the elves passed westward, Tom was here already, before the seas were bent. He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless – before the Dark Lord came from Outside.
Simple but some good imagery and subtle rhythm
Legolas was oddly endearin on reread; he acted a bit like an idealized teenager in some 1800s novels but it kind of made sense because he was not human
Sam, Aragorn, Faramir, in that order because each of them represents a different aspect of heroism, and by extension, hope. Sam is the unlikely hero, Aragorn is the traditional hero and Faramir is the tragic hero. I like all of the Fellowship except Frodo who feels more like a plot device and a personification of the Ring than the main character. I am aware that was kind of the point but still he makes for an uninteresting lead. Sam is way better at being Frodo in every conceivable way, but wouldn't really work as a character without Frodo existing.
Can't choose one. Gandalf, yes, cause he's the main driving force of the story, and has the badass coolness that appeals to my younger self. Sam because he's simple but not dumb, loyal, the real hero of the story and because he's funny. Merry would be my favorite hobbit if not for sam, he's the more balanced of the four, the ideal hobbit and does so much in the story. Treebeard cause he's a tree. I like denethor as well because he's very subtle, unlike that cartoon in the hackson movies. Eowyn is also a great chatacter, tolkien considered having aragorn end up with her. Faramir for various reasons but mainly cause he ended up with her. Cirdan, may not have appeared much but was another driving force, gave his ring to gandalf and literally outlasted everyone. Elrond. Agh, many characters to choose from
But honestly my favorite is bilbo. Been in love since i read the hobbit. Except we're talking lotr and not the hobbit
Galadriel has the best lines in FotR (and TT for that matter) by far.
The Lothlorien chapter in the book is vastly more interesting than the movie counterpart.
Gandalf is the modern’s representation of Odin. You will notice that wizards live on most strongly in meta ideas and tropes and stereotypes.
It’s why history is full of occult writers pretending (and idolizing) themselves as famous old magical men of the past. Pseudonyms such as pseudo-Ostanes or pseudo-Zoroaster or pseudo-Solomon or pseudo-Pythagoras, etc. Hermes Trismegistus. Or just any influential enough Ancient Greek philosopher, really. Legendary sages/wizards were basically creatures in their own right.
If you’re a cringe gamer who played Elden Ring, you may have noticed that the academy sorcerers (Raya Lucaria or whatever?) do this with their not!Greek stone heads/masks, trying to emulate past greats (the twin sages Lusat and Azur).
Humans are obsessed with ideas. There’s like 100+ nearly-exact parallels of Jesus in history.
Frodo. Extremely unique character and well executed. A merciful and sacrificial Christian character who completes the quest because of his spiritual knowledge and strength. A noble man who suffers immensely and comes out on the other side as something altogether more complex and "higher," albeit fragile and spent.
I reread it recently and Frodo was very well-developed. I had not really realized earlier and I see a lot of critique of the character but I loved him as a grown man
Granted, I like that he is way more grumpy then people seem to portray him as. He really acts like a gnarled sour oak much of the time, often unnecessarily. Which is good. What I dont like is that hes a bit marry sueish. His actual arguments with other people like the Steward kinda got me on the stewards side because Gandalf really isnt good at explaining himself at all. a lot of "Im right because Im right" stuff rather than his wisdom being self evident.
I got the feeling we were supposed to sympatheize with the Steward. He was a very clever but mentally ill man and suddenly this weird otherworldly being is telling him what to do
From Denetho's perspective its like a Pope being told to stand down for the second coming, he never thought it would actually occur
Theoden.
Suddenly the king cried to Snowmane and the horse sprang away. Behind him his banner blew in the wind, white horse upon a field of green, but he outpaced it. After him thundered the knights of his house, but he was ever before them. Éomer rode there, the white horsetail on his helm floating in his speed, and the front of the first éored roared like a breaker foaming to the shore, but Théoden could not be overtaken. Fey he seemed, or the battle-fury of his fathers ran like new fire in his veins, and he was borne up on Snowmane like a god of old, even as Oromë the Great in the battle of the Valar when the world was young. His golden shield was uncovered, and lo! it shone like an image of the Sun, and the grass flamed into green about the white feet of his steed. For morning came, morning and a wind from the sea; and the darkness was removed, and the hosts of Mordor wailed, and terror took them, and they fled, and died, and the hoofs of wrath rode over them. And then all the host of Rohan burst into song, and they sang as they slew, for the joy of battle was on them, and the sound of their singing that was fair and terrible came even to the City.
Theoden.
Suddenly the king cried to Snowmane and the horse sprang away. Behind him his banner blew in the wind, white horse upon a field of green, but he outpaced it. After him thundered the knights of his house, but he was ever before them. Éomer rode there, the white horsetail on his helm floating in his speed, and the front of the first éored roared like a breaker foaming to the shore, but Théoden could not be overtaken. Fey he seemed, or the battle-fury of his fathers ran like new fire in his veins, and he was borne up on Snowmane like a god of old, even as Oromë the Great in the battle of the Valar when the world was young. His golden shield was uncovered, and lo! it shone like an image of the Sun, and the grass flamed into green about the white feet of his steed. For morning came, morning and a wind from the sea; and the darkness was removed, and the hosts of Mordor wailed, and terror took them, and they fled, and died, and the hoofs of wrath rode over them. And then all the host of Rohan burst into song, and they sang as they slew, for the joy of battle was on them, and the sound of their singing that was fair and terrible came even to the City.
If you had to kill off one more member of the Fellowship after Boromir who would you pick? I feel like Legolas is the weakest link here he barely accomplishes anything and you could easily establish peace between dwarf and elves with other characters like Elrond or Galadriel the problem with Legolas is that he is overshadowed by far cooler and superior elves every member serves some sort of purpose but you could easily sweep him under the rug and the story wouldn't be affected gradually in any way
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Based Gandalf. One of the hobbits dropped a rock down a deep hole in Moria, risking the group's position. Gandalf heard the rock drop and told the little shit that because he's such a high liability, it'd be better for the Company if he followed that rock into the abyss.
Gandalf is a favourite of mine too, though lately I have also been a fan of Samwise, Gimli and Galadriel. I feel like I only started to understand them as characters recently and they were a lot cooler than I remember them from childhood
My Silmarillion fav is pic-related
>My Silmarillion fav is pic-related
Who is that?
Maedhros I think
He is the guy who commits suicide at the end of the Silmarilion
Also the one there's a thread complaining about right now because so many women and gays want to rape him
I wonder what attracts them to a chaste Catholic franchise
Tom
Good taste; Tom has one of the most beautiful lines in the book and I love him and Goldberry
I like how free and inna woods he is yet still has a great wife. That's the ideal life.
Tom is one of the few fantasy characters that I would really actually wanna to be. I love Conan and other sword and sorcery protagonists but Tom just has the life that I would wish for myself
Which line do you consider so beautiful?
I agree about Tom btw, although Aragorn is pretty cool.
There's a bunch, mostly indirect quotes but this one is kind of nice
>Eldest, that’s what I am. Mark my words, my friends: Tom was here before the river and the trees; Tom remembers the first raindrop and the first acorn. He made paths before the Big People, and saw the little People arriving. He was here before the kings and the graves and the Barrow-wights. When the elves passed westward, Tom was here already, before the seas were bent. He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless – before the Dark Lord came from Outside.
Simple but some good imagery and subtle rhythm
Best lines are Gimli's bros.
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Legolas, because he's cool and awesome.
Legolas was oddly endearin on reread; he acted a bit like an idealized teenager in some 1800s novels but it kind of made sense because he was not human
This. He shoots a Nazgûl out of the sky and makes a game out of killing nig-.. I mean Uruk-Hai.
Sam, Aragorn, Faramir, in that order because each of them represents a different aspect of heroism, and by extension, hope. Sam is the unlikely hero, Aragorn is the traditional hero and Faramir is the tragic hero. I like all of the Fellowship except Frodo who feels more like a plot device and a personification of the Ring than the main character. I am aware that was kind of the point but still he makes for an uninteresting lead. Sam is way better at being Frodo in every conceivable way, but wouldn't really work as a character without Frodo existing.
Probably sam, though I think Théoden is incredibly based.
These 2
Sam
Underrated response
Can't choose one. Gandalf, yes, cause he's the main driving force of the story, and has the badass coolness that appeals to my younger self. Sam because he's simple but not dumb, loyal, the real hero of the story and because he's funny. Merry would be my favorite hobbit if not for sam, he's the more balanced of the four, the ideal hobbit and does so much in the story. Treebeard cause he's a tree. I like denethor as well because he's very subtle, unlike that cartoon in the hackson movies. Eowyn is also a great chatacter, tolkien considered having aragorn end up with her. Faramir for various reasons but mainly cause he ended up with her. Cirdan, may not have appeared much but was another driving force, gave his ring to gandalf and literally outlasted everyone. Elrond. Agh, many characters to choose from
But honestly my favorite is bilbo. Been in love since i read the hobbit. Except we're talking lotr and not the hobbit
For me it's Boromir because he's the only one who isn't a cartoon character.
Who's an edgy boy? Who?
This, Sam is my knee jerk answer but Boromir is a richer character for his flaws and attempts at repentance.
Bakshi adaptation is also my favorite.
Denethor is also a good one if you like the flawed
Galadriel has the best lines in FotR (and TT for that matter) by far.
The Lothlorien chapter in the book is vastly more interesting than the movie counterpart.
Fatty Bolger, because he has the good sense to let everyone else take all the risks, while he stays at home eating pies.
>Tolkien: I’m gonna name the girl hobbits Gladys Springflower and I’m gonna name the boy hobbits Fat Nutsack
He based Treebeard on C.S Lewis and Arwen on his wife
Bro knew that bros can handle the bants
Gollum/Smeagol
Oh and because he's literally me precious
"He's just like me!"
Gollum, Sam, and Frodo. If I had to choose only one then it would be Gollum.
I love The Two Towers so much bros...
Aragorn, the real deal.
Tom Bombadil is the only correct answer
Gandalf is the modern’s representation of Odin. You will notice that wizards live on most strongly in meta ideas and tropes and stereotypes.
It’s why history is full of occult writers pretending (and idolizing) themselves as famous old magical men of the past. Pseudonyms such as pseudo-Ostanes or pseudo-Zoroaster or pseudo-Solomon or pseudo-Pythagoras, etc. Hermes Trismegistus. Or just any influential enough Ancient Greek philosopher, really. Legendary sages/wizards were basically creatures in their own right.
If you’re a cringe gamer who played Elden Ring, you may have noticed that the academy sorcerers (Raya Lucaria or whatever?) do this with their not!Greek stone heads/masks, trying to emulate past greats (the twin sages Lusat and Azur).
Humans are obsessed with ideas. There’s like 100+ nearly-exact parallels of Jesus in history.
Sellen ;_;
>Gandalf, because he is the soul of the story.
No, that's Sam.
Frodo. Extremely unique character and well executed. A merciful and sacrificial Christian character who completes the quest because of his spiritual knowledge and strength. A noble man who suffers immensely and comes out on the other side as something altogether more complex and "higher," albeit fragile and spent.
I reread it recently and Frodo was very well-developed. I had not really realized earlier and I see a lot of critique of the character but I loved him as a grown man
Gandalf the lame.
Granted, I like that he is way more grumpy then people seem to portray him as. He really acts like a gnarled sour oak much of the time, often unnecessarily. Which is good. What I dont like is that hes a bit marry sueish. His actual arguments with other people like the Steward kinda got me on the stewards side because Gandalf really isnt good at explaining himself at all. a lot of "Im right because Im right" stuff rather than his wisdom being self evident.
I got the feeling we were supposed to sympatheize with the Steward. He was a very clever but mentally ill man and suddenly this weird otherworldly being is telling him what to do
From Denetho's perspective its like a Pope being told to stand down for the second coming, he never thought it would actually occur
Easily a favourite moment
Theoden.
Suddenly the king cried to Snowmane and the horse sprang away. Behind him his banner blew in the wind, white horse upon a field of green, but he outpaced it. After him thundered the knights of his house, but he was ever before them. Éomer rode there, the white horsetail on his helm floating in his speed, and the front of the first éored roared like a breaker foaming to the shore, but Théoden could not be overtaken. Fey he seemed, or the battle-fury of his fathers ran like new fire in his veins, and he was borne up on Snowmane like a god of old, even as Oromë the Great in the battle of the Valar when the world was young. His golden shield was uncovered, and lo! it shone like an image of the Sun, and the grass flamed into green about the white feet of his steed. For morning came, morning and a wind from the sea; and the darkness was removed, and the hosts of Mordor wailed, and terror took them, and they fled, and died, and the hoofs of wrath rode over them. And then all the host of Rohan burst into song, and they sang as they slew, for the joy of battle was on them, and the sound of their singing that was fair and terrible came even to the City.
Shivers every time.
If you had to kill off one more member of the Fellowship after Boromir who would you pick? I feel like Legolas is the weakest link here he barely accomplishes anything and you could easily establish peace between dwarf and elves with other characters like Elrond or Galadriel the problem with Legolas is that he is overshadowed by far cooler and superior elves every member serves some sort of purpose but you could easily sweep him under the rug and the story wouldn't be affected gradually in any way
The ancient ivy cleaved to the ruined castle walls /// The speech touched on all the important issues but never really discussed them /// A ballot snafu in the election led to a recount /// The drug is very effective - the only snag is that it cannot be produced in large quantities /// People with devious intentions always manage to find loopholes in legislation /// The car gave a sudden judder, then stopped dead /// She might live to rue this impetuous decision /// For now, foreign companies should tread carefully and onshore user data when possible /// We had to trudge through deep snow to get to school /// The play just plodded along in the second act /// Sit down and have some lunch, then go round and do the glad-handing afterwards /// If you need help, just call on Mike. He can come at the drop of a hat /// That rinky-dink shelf is likely to collapse if you fill it with books /// James Addison Baker was the consummate master at actually getting things done in Washington /// I could hear the champagne fizz as he poured it into my glass /// In all human affairs, there is virtue in a successor's not being a precise simulacrum of the predecessor whom he or she follows /// The country's criminal and civil courts were creaking at the seams in spite of efforts to shore them up /// The boat was hit by a squall north of the island /// This is a draft manuscript waiting for an editor to impose coherence and to smooth over mangled grammar, malapropisms and political oversimplifications /// Children who expect a supportive response to their emotional displays are more likely to express emotion, whereas children who expect a negative interpersonal response report dissembling emotional expression /// People left so much food on their plates and crumpled a few dollar bills down, as though it were an offering, expiation for the wasted food /// The most erudite people in medical research attended the conference /// In issue two, Chang wanders around gibbering like a raw-meat lunatic /// Hope you got enough poontang to last you till next time /// Companies blame the economy for the lay offs, while workers chalk it up to bad management /// He was reeling a little. He must be very drunk /// Two new natural-gas plants should help slake the country's demand for power /// Roses climbed the trellises /// In 37 years with British Rail, I saw how station staff always bore the brunt of public anger over fare rises /// He's constantly switching up his cadence and his delivery /// Red, white and blue bunting hung in the city's renovated train station /// The 82-year-old songwriter mixes serious contemplation with mordant humor on his new album /// She threw him a look of haughty disdain /// This recognition frees logic from the epistemological discussion of secondary qualities /// Was there no postman or postmaster whom he could suborn to intercept them for him? ///