whats your opinion on gaming laptops? I never understood why theyre hated so much
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whats your opinion on gaming laptops? I never understood why theyre hated so much
whats your opinion on gaming laptops? I never understood why theyre hated so much
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it contradictory in its specs, overpriced, overhyped
also no extension possibility like with most laptops
BUT
if you insist on a laptop they make decent "work tools"
>if you insist on a laptop they make decent "work tools"
you must be 18 to post here bud.
im not gonna type workstation for a f* laptop, right?
There is a phrase for that it's "mobile workstation".
Just picked up an all AMD laptop for $1,623: 6800m, 5900hx, 1tb ssd, 16gb 3200hz ram, 165hz 1440p top quality screen, huge battery that lasts 12 hours with light use, and I get 100fps average in Red Dead 2 at high / ultra.
ok, keep me posted
I hate gaming laptops but the fatass in front should pay for it.
>lean back in an airplane chair
>suddenly you owe someone $3000
Yes, as a lesson in public decency and common courtesy, you're literally stealing space from the person behind you, that's a maximally-pignented person move. If you want to lean back in a plane, you should either
>not be flying with a cheap airline that stacks seats too close to each other
or
>buy first class
Or the airline pays up for using such cheap seats. Or whoever built the chair. I don't give a frick, but it's not the fault of the laptop owner. As much as I hate his Soja "gaming" guts.
holy shit youre autistic
if you're flying in a plane you should expect the chair in front of you to lean back homosexual
It's totally his fault for not recognizing that the tray holder might bend his screen, but then again I don't fly on shitty united planes
he should sue the company, they are responsible for the damages
Airlines make it part of the contract you agree to when you buy a ticket, that they are only responsible for lost, damaged or stolen goods when it's under their direct control - ie. checked baggage. Carry-on is on you.
This is a potential lawsuit between the laptop owner and the person in front. But it depends on the country suing, and how it played out. If the person asked the guy in front to be careful when reclining, then they might have a case for reckless disregard. But it's reasonable to assume no conversation took place, it's reasonable to expect passengers to recline, and the laptop owner is responsible for how it was placed so it crushed instead of being pushed forward. So, you'd probably lose a lawsuit.
The correct answer is you have homeowner's insurance, and have called your agent and confirmed it covers things like laptops and cameras while traveling. (Mine does.)
Keeping in mind that most of the posters in this thread don't have homeowners or renters insurance, and several are schitzos who think insurance is a israeli plot, I don't know why I bother.
Nobody cares: I worked at a job where I had to travel, and the company woudn't cover my laptop, as it was paid for by me, so I found out my homeowner's would cover it - otherwise I was gonna have to use one of the companies craptastic, hobbled HP laptops.
>several are schitzos who think insurance is a israeli plot
I'm no schitzo but on average you pay way more for insurance than you'll get out.
Insurance companies have expenses and they want to make profits.
Much smarter to be your own "insurance" by having some spare money in a savings account or investment portfolio.
If you buy a 3k laptop and can't afford to lose it you shouldn't be buying a 3k laptop in the first place.
Insurance does make sense for truly big financial risks like having your car stolen/totaled, having your house burn down or requiring expensive medical treatments.
But insurance against any risks under, say, $20k, yeah it's a israeli plot.
Okay, NEET. We get it. You're a schitzo.
Here's how it works. I have several hundred thousand in homeowners coverage. They cut me a check, no questions asked, if I need it. Which I did once, because of flooding.
But I don't expect someone who's mentally ill to have any actual life advice that makes any fricking sense.
But hey, you tried, little man!
Did you even read my post mr reddit spacing?
Your mental issues are not mine, and your trying to rationalize them aren't mine either.
not that schizo anon you replied to,
yet I want to interrupt you for a moment.
the thing you're referring as a reddit spacing was in fact present on IQfy way before it was a thing on Reddit.
chech older threads on IQfy archive you fricking newbie
reddit hands typed this post
I've never never used reddit
Try it, you'd fit right in
>you'd fit right in
you know it from personal experience, right?
I've been round here before they added IQfy pass and before you homosexual started using this website, and I won't go on some fricking reddit because a newbie is thinking that said so reddit spacing on IQfy derives from reddit
you sound like you browse r*ddit
you're fricking moronic, anon
>But hey, you tried, little man!
self-flatulence inhaler tier comment
Holy reddit.
What? In what world does this logic make sense?
Like what.... how fricking stupid are you? Do you even know how to read the fricking check they cut you?
schizophrenia is mostly a israeli problem anon quit perpetuating that meme
https://www.haaretz.com/2013-11-26/ty-article/.premium/ashkenazi-gene-increases-schizophrenia/0000017f-e04b-d75c-a7ff-fccfa3e10000
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26198764/
https://www.cell.com/neuron/fulltext/S0896-6273(21)00152-5
This. As a rule, if the thing you are paying insurance for is relatively cheap and easy to damage, you are being scammed. Insurance companies make money when you DON'T get your shit damaged, if they are selling something like a phone insurance, you can be sure the margins are stratospheric
>I'm no schitzo but on average you pay way more for insurance than you'll get out.
That's because you never factor in "peace of mind" into the equation. It's like half of the entire reason why insurance exists in the first place.
Saving money yourself also gives peace of mind...
>The correct answer is you have homeowner's insurance, and have called your agent and confirmed it covers things like laptops and cameras while traveling.
I have homeowner's insurance, and if some moron jammed his laptop behind my seat and then asked for my insurance info after the flight, I'd laugh in his face and walk away.
No way I'm dealing with the paperwork and the hiked rates just because he was a negligent manchild.
No, stupid. The insurance for your own laptop, not the other person. It doesn't work like car insurance. You know how I can tell you've never owned a home, or had insurance for it?
The correct answer is to ask the person to pay, if he don't, punch him and gouge one of his eye out.
holy shit this guy won't travel with an *uninsured* laptop. jesus christ you're a bugman pussy
The moron with the laptop literally left his screen locked in the part where the top of the recliner should be embossing.
It's not the fault of the person in front of him.
>It's not the fault of the person in front of him.
Absolutely. The guy in front of him was using the chair as it was designed. Meanwhile, the redditor wanted to use a "electronic device" during a flight, something that just recently was allowed.
It's like, lie down in the road at night and comply that a car drove over you.
What I mean is that the laptop would be perfectly fine if the moron wouldn't have put the screen in a tight crevice. That's stupidity.
yep, i was just agreeing with you.
NEET, I've been using laptops on planes for over a fricking decade, lol.
>left his screen locked
This, otherwise it just would've closed the screen a bit.
If you're so busy and important that you need to continue working on your laptop in the air, get your employer to pay for business class and not fricking COACH
>it's not the fault of the laptop owner.
Yes it is.
He placed his screen right under the ledge which caused it to get trapped.
Reclining an airplane seat is normal and expected, he should have anticipated what would happen if he placed a laptop screen right under a ledge that could be lowered at any time.
>Reclining an airplane seat is normal
it shouldn't be, having 6 inches of space in front of you sucks
captcha: KVGAY
Lean yours back too then, insufferable moron.
I'm not an inconsiderate butthole like you, also not all seats can lean back, even the ones all the way in the back of the plane with no seats behind them.
The seat leans towards the top, see
being fat or skinny has nothing to do with it, but you keep projecting
You're an autistic moron.
You're a sociopathic moron.
>thinks that using an airline seat as intended is assault
>calls other people a sociopath
huh, so you think being a dick is assault? sounds like you've done some bad things like breathe
>Reclining your seat is being a dick
You're the fat one here, got it
It's enough to be about 185cm to have kneecaps smashed in economy class.
moron
lol how fat are you?
>Yes, as a lesson in public decency and common courtesy, you're literally stealing space from the person behind you
Not my problem
I always lean back. Problem? Lean back and you'll have your space again 🙂
>it's not the fault of the laptop owner
it really is if he's ever been on an airplane before or seen one in a movie to know the seats are adjustable
I fricking hate people like you. You'd kill your neighbor over a noise if you could
>You'd kill your neighbor over a noise if you could
Yes. Stop being a loud Black person.
Lol frick you, I'm leaning back as far as I can and there's nothing you can do about it
budget airlines don't let you lean back on your seat, he paid for his right to lean back, "muh first class" my balls
you're a massive idiot
It amazes me moronic people like you can breathe
>buys $3k laptop
>flies cheap
>GUYZ ITS UR FAULT FOR FLYING CHEAP!
lol, lmao even
No you don't, that's the company's fault.
>turn wheel in car
>hit another car
>suddenly owe $4200
>lol no it's the car manufacturers fault
It's the laptop owner's fault you smoothbrain
only the screen cracked
Like what ever gay(ming) brand that is will actually fix the screen and upper chassis. That thing is going in the dump and he will have to pay a large portion of the full retail to get a replacement
Welcome to America
>$3000
It would be a lot less than this if he was smart enough to get insurance.
There is nobody at fault in this situation
Nothing wrong with putting your laptop on a table, nothing wrong with reclining your chair
If you really want to point blame it should be on the designers of the seat for not accounting for this / having adequate warning, or the manufacturers of the laptop for making planned obsolescence junk that turns what should be a $150 screen replacement into writing off the entire $3000 laptop
>or the manufacturers of the laptop for making planned obsolescence junk that turns what should be a $150 screen replacement into writing off the entire $3000 laptop
I'd blame the moron that owns it for that. Dude could go on ebay and buy a full display assembly for that thing for like $150 and fix it himself. But instead he writes it off as "broken" because the moron thinks screen=laptop
>Dude could go on ebay and buy a full display assembly for that thing for like $150 and fix it himself
Not always a guarantee especially with newer models
Or he could rip it off and replace it with one of those usb c external screens
>If you really want to point blame it should be on the designers of the seat for not accounting for this
You are fricking moronic
No, you are moronic
A seat with a table used to put laptops on should not have a pinch point that crushes laptop screens when the seat is reclined as intended
Neither person in this situation used the seat wrong, $3000 of property damage was caused by a design flaw
No one claimed the seat was designed to prevent the moron from doing the absolutely moronic thing he did
He's a fricking idiot and so are you
>Neither person in this situation used the seat wrong
you are really, really, mind-bogglingly fricking stupid
I'm amazed you can even breathe
Ok please tell me which of these people did something gravely wrong
>a man who put his laptop on a table designed for putting laptops on
>a man who reclined a seat designed to recline
>>a man who put his laptop on a table designed for putting laptops on
Clearly not designed to wedge that big laptop into you stupid frick, it's a fricking reclining chair you fricking idiot
Ok and?
Nothing about it being a reclining chair means that it has to have a rectangular block sticking out that acts as a pinch point between the table
It's a design flaw
>Nothing about it being a reclining chair means that it has to have a rectangular block sticking out
Really? Did you ask the engineers who designed it?
>It's a design flaw
According to whom? Your dumb ass?
about it being a reclining chair means that it has to have a rectangular block sticking out
>Really? Did you ask the engineers who designed it?
What is this appeal to authority lmfao
Are you really so moronic you can't think of another way you could possibly design a table without a big rectangular retaining block sticking out?
>>It's a design flaw
>According to whom? Your dumb ass?
If a table destorys $3000 of equipment that is placed ontop of it then the table has a design flaw
If a $3,000 product is destroyed by a meager table then that product has a design flaw. It should've been better built to account for reclining chairs on that particular airline when that one particular moron decides to wedge the top of the screen into the recess.
It's not a "meager table", it's a badly designed table that turns into compression press with 80KG+ of force
>his laptop breaks by just using on a table.
Is this the state of gaymin kiddies?
Just call your employer/contract and have them send you a new one.
>What is this appeal to authority lmfao
Guess the laptop should've come with a warning for morons to not wedge it into an airplane's reclining seat
>Nothing about it being a reclining chair
You're correct. It's got nothing to do with the fact that it reclines.
It has everything to do with it having a table on the back. OP's moron decided to wedge the top of his screen where it would fit nicely into the wedge where the table surface stows away.
Nah, all he has to do is ignore the moron in the back until he causes a scene, causes an emergency landing and gets thrown off the plane by several airport cops.
At which point your reach behind for your new slimline HTPC.
Have sex
for what? leaning back in his chair? there's no restrictions for that, he was allowed to lean back
guy with the laptop must have never been on a plane before, wedging his laptop under where the tray folds up to is a completely moronic thing to do, it was an accident that was entirely the fault of the laptop owner
maybe he could get a lawyer to argue with the airline over inadequate signage saying not to put laptops on the food tray, but that's about it. there's no way he can sue the guy in front over this
>Judge, please hear me out, I did not intend on pushing the girl down the rail, I was just walking towards the platform and the girl just standing in front of me, didn't even give me the space on the platform to stand!
>there is no restriction for me to walk in front of a platform!
>the girl clearly never stand on a platform before, if she had then she would just stand aside instead of being push down when people walk towards her!
By the way if you read the tweet, you know that he didn't wedge the laptop. The photo was taken aftermath.
he had to have put the laptop far enough back to be under the part where the tray locks back into place, this comes down when the chair is adjusted back (the tray is designed to stay level regardless of the angle of the chair it's attached to)
there's no way for the person in front to know the person behind them is doing something dumb that can lead to damage or injury by him adjusting his chair, nor is it their responsibility to check
your comparison is dumb, it'd be more like if someone put their phone on the ground at a train station then complained if someone stepped on it by accident
I'm being 100% completely serious here, no equivocations, no irony or nothing; are you fricking brain dead?
Did you actually missed that he did not wedge the laptop? Economy class has very little spce for everyone so it is definitely a common decency to not lean back too much, and if you are trying to lean maximumly like the fatass did, it is common to ask permission from the person behind you.
>there's no way for the person in front to know the person behind them is doing something dumb that can lead to damage or injury by him adjusting his chair
Uh, do you mean he don't have fricking eyes or can't turn his head to look behind before he adjusted the chair to maximum? Hell I would check behind my car if there is a passenger if I wanted to adjust the chair all the way back.
i've been on planes many times and i've never once seen someone ask anyone before adjusting their chair
call it rude if you want, but [economy] airplane seats hardly move at all, and it's not like someone can actually say "no, you can't adjust your seat"
Even if you asked, no one in polite Anglo society would say no anyways.
>but [economy] airplane seats hardly move at all
Well I agree with this point, generally. I don't see any adjustment that is big enough to shattered the laptop like what is happening in OP, at least on the flights that I've boarded before. Clearly United has seats that can adjust more than that, which crashed the laptop.
That is the point, just a heads up to the person sitting behind on what's about to happen.
>listen here fatass, either you pay for the damage, or I go to jail, and I wouldn't mind going to jail for this
>Well I agree with this point, generally. I don't see any adjustment that is big enough to shattered the laptop like what is happening in OP, at least on the flights that I've boarded before. Clearly United has seats that can adjust more than that, which crashed the laptop.
that's why i'm saying he must have practically wedged the display under the part where the tray goes, it moves so little that anywhere else is safe
the laptop owner made a dumb mistake, at best the airline should make this danger more obvious, since laptops aren't an uncommon sight on airplanes nowadays
redesigning the tray mechanism so there is no pinch point would be ideal, but i can't see that being an overnight change
holy shit you really are braindead
>t. autistic moron who never leaves the house, let alone flies
are you?
this is a really poor attempt and has nothing to do with the situation, there is no parallel here, you're just an idiot
>maybe he could get a lawyer to argue with the airline over inadequate signage saying not to put laptops on the food tray
that'd be moronic
it would, considering there's nothing there to suggest putting laptops on the food tray is something you should do at all, but it's the only thing i can think of which might possibly go anywhere
depends on how good the lawers are
No. Leaning back is ok. Using laptop was never intended.
the batteries always cost like $300 and the gpu is always fairly obsolete by a year or two later
they are garbage
>gpu is always fairly obsolete by a year or two later
Are you one of the homosexuals that think that you MUST have a 3080 to play video games?
It's a cope that sperg most likely has a 1060 and he copes by trying to bring down other systems.
I want every homie in this thread that talks shit to post system specs.
Stop playing with toys in public kids
The moron had the screen wedged in the crevice that the tray comes down from, so it's his fault
^ This
and this too
>use thinkpad
>replace screen for a hundred bux
>100$ to repair a part of something you can get whole for 20$ or free
post xx20 generation lenovos don't count, cumboi
I can’t fathom using a device lower spec than a T480
What if you need a machine with processing power beyond 2005 standards?
you get t420, you coreboot it and you put in a 3rd gen intel quad.
The insurance company should pay for the laptop.
Nice try Satan, I haven't paid for insurance in over a decade.
Found the bus rider and apartment dweller.
Yes.
And?
I save 80% of my programming check that way. I can spend that money on ricing my car (and hookers to have sex with inside it). And liquor.
And vinyl records, of course.
if it was a Thinkpad the chair would break
>I never understood why theyre hated so much
Comes down to trust
Most people don't trust the companies making gaming laptops. As they should because gaming laptops are marketed for a rather unimportant task.
Most DIY PC hardware is the same, it's not exactly made to a standard you'd expect for mission critical hardware but it's serviceable. You can always find a new motherboard if your current ones dies
On a gaming laptop good fricking luck finding a motherboard with the exact CPU and GPU that doesn't cost just as much as the damn laptop is worth
>why theyre hated so much
there's no point when you can just remote into a desktop at home/office or a server farm and do the heavy lifting with those resources. A power hungry inefficient laptop is counter intuitive to the design philosophy of a laptop that should be portable and efficient. You're much better off with a super lightweight laptop with high efficiency that could pull a battery life of 12+hrs and then using remote access.
Like look at the situation in OP's pic, that's not a problem with my 11.3" 2in1 ultra portable and I remember that one time it was, I just flipped it to tablet mode
I don't get how the screen deforms before the screen gets pushed back. Locked hinge?
I have a gaming laptop and I like it since I often fly places and want to bring my main machine easily. Also the 17" screen is nice, though the size can be a bit unwieldy. For my train commute I bring my Thinkpad x260, mainly for typing stuff.
Don't think you can game via remote.
You can see the seat having a ledge that pushed it down instead of back
>Don't think you can game via remote
You absolutely can, I do it fairly often. I run a wireguard server on my home computer, so the laptop basically always believes it's on a local network. I have a script that uses ssh to launch a Windows VM with the GPU passed through on my home workstation. I then connect to the Windows VM using RDP. Performance is perfectly good, latency will depend on the connection but at least for travel within my country it's always been fine.
You have to do some special settings in Windows to make RDP render on the graphics card instead of on the CPU, and this way you do lose the automatic desktop resizing, but it's zero hassle to just change to the custom resolution I made in Nvidia panel that matches my laptop's display.
Another solution, probably easier, is to just set up Steam in-home streaming over the wireguard connection. I've heard it has some performance advantages over Windows RDP, but I haven't tested it myself since my solution is more flexible (works for any software, not just games).
Very cool. I'll have to try this out. My experience with any remoting (at/for work) is extremely high latency, but I suppose that that's not always the case. I also notice now there's a variety of services now available to do game streaming. Incredible.
>Don't think you can game via remote.
5g tether, unlimited data, and stadia/xbox cloud, the latency is at the point of "good enough"
I can charge my ultra portable via usb c even with a small phone charger, I mean yeah there's going to be power somewhere somehow but while traveling, having less weight and bulk in both the laptop and the charger makes it so much more convenient to go with something light and efficient
battery life doesnt mean anything when these things are designed for power and performance. besides, most non-shithole airliners have power sockets, and if you're flying around, you will most likely own a travel adapter anyway
>just remote into a desktop at home/office or a server farm and do the heavy lifting with those resources
you are talking out your ass. remote gaming, cloud gaming hasn't taken off for a reason, glowie
That assumes you always have access to good internet that won't have shit latency with your home/office network which is likely not going to be the case if you travel a lot. But for local travel by all means, that's the best way to do it.
If you got nvidia GPU check out Moonlight. Less hassle than RDP, and I find that it performs slightly better than Steam's solution which sometimes has weird issues like stuttering even though the network is fine.
it's impossible to get a non-prebuilt gaming laptop.
just buy a steam deck
>steam deck
>"portable"
portable if youre not from auschwitz, yes
not everybody has little baby hands
try jerking off some big dicks, it will help you build hand strength, you little homosexual
post the mac version
saying that from experience?
if I can stick it up my ass, it's portable
>he cant fit the entirety of ENIAC in his ass
it's big, but not absurdly so
not even the closest comparison, the switch, is pocket-size
Oh man I had a Game Gear. That thing sucked those 6 AA's down like nothing else. I mostly used it with a AC Adapter.
yes, well, there was some good reasons why nintendo didn't bother with a backlight until they came with rechargable liion batteries, it was damn near impractical to do it
nobody wants to spend $5 on a set of batteries that last a couple hours
Nintendo did have the Gameboy light which ran off two AAs
Ran for 12 hours with the backlight on.
yea there was that, that was a unique case, the other reason why it was impractical was because white leds weren't a thing yet, things like the lynx and gamegear had to use ccfl tubes for white light
the gameboy light used an electroluminescent sheet, the kind of thing you'd find in a watch backlight, not suitable for colour displays, but it's certainly better than nothing
>no ngage
SIDETALKIN guys ww@
>psvita
nice tbh!
i have a light blue one, it's very comfy to play VNs on it.
Look at that motherfricker Game Gear.
The Game Gear was an incredible device for its time, and still today. The display is just about impossible to see anything on in all but perfect conditions, and it will get scratched up very quickly, making it even worse. Also ridiculous levels of LCD motion blur. We're talking ghosting that lasts over a second! And it's powered by AA batteries, which it gobbles up almost as quickly as the average American gobbles up hamburgers.
>6 AA batteries
fricking kill me every time I wanted to play it
Literally the OG xbox of handhelds
>brapazolt poster has a shit opinion
color me shocked
>plane turns
>deck flies out the window
??? great job gabe
Another botchjob by valve
It's back from when they were really shit. You can get very good machines nowadays, especially near the top end.
>whats your opinion on gaming laptops?
I hate it. It's simple a terrible investment. It sucks at everything that requires power, and at the same time, sucks at being a portable computer with long battery life.
You can assemble a computer 10x better than that piece of garbage with half the money.
Not everyone can do that. I have a gaming laptop for the simple reason that I 1) use it for work and need to be able to take it with me and 2) I don't live in a fricking mansion so the only spot where I can keep it is on my kitchen table and I obviously can't put a tower there
"Why they're hated so much"
>They compete with business laptops, which are usually sold on support contracts which leave the company that makes them liable for repairs, so these laptops tend to be well built. Gaming laptops on the other hand are sold almost entirely to the consumer market. They're sold to consumers who don't demand much other than having a top spec CPU & GPU at the lowest price, and the way to accomplish that is cutting every corner.
>"Gaming laptops" conceptually are trading off durability because the high heat caused by the high powered components and small build accelerate component wear.
>They tend to market laptops to young nerds, so they look like what an 18 year old dork thinks is cool, which decidedly makes them look uncool.
>Gaming laptops depreciate quickly with no upgrade path and command a significant premium over a desktop solution.
>They're not as good as a portable computer as most ultrabooks, and they're not as good as a gaming computer as a desktop, so they're usually a jack of all trades compromise.
That being said gaming laptops have been a majority of the gaming computer market for ages now, but they're considered expensive unreliable quickly depreciating toys for young children who haven't grown out of playing bing bing wahoos.
It's like a four banger with a spoiler.
What's the sense?
4cyls with spoilers come with turbos these days, producing more power with less fuel.
unironically get a mac
lol.
Those bend with normal use, hell the screen flex just bends by opening it.
Someone post the gif of the cat nibbling on the screen
Honestly I would but no gaems.
>LMAO
I dont know about you but I wouldnt be laughing if some fatass crushed my computer. If hes laughing chances are he has plenty of money to get it fixed
Gaming on a laptop is moronic.
But with business laptops now all having shit performance in favor of thinness, "gaming" laptops are the only option when you need a mobile workstation.
>"gaming" laptops are the only option when you need a mobile workstation.
You could also just get a mobile workstation
>mobile workstation
you mean a gaming laptop?
No a mobile workstation which is distinct from a business laptop or gaymer laptop
No, a mobile workstation. Picrel, mine.
God I want one so bad, but my x1 is still going strong.
>Get into motorcycle accident. Fly over the hood of moronic woman's car, land on my backpack and roll for a bit.
>nothing broken, wrist hurts like hell.
>Kindle is destroyed.
>Batteries have popped out of ti89.
>power bank has flown of and is gone forever.
>pen inside my backpack is broken and basically exploded.
>X1's lid has a tiny fracture going across it but no damage otherwise.
The X1 is an amazing laptop anon 🙂
I'm glad you're fine, wrist injuries are permanent, especially if you hurt your cartillage or the scaphoid bone. I have a wrist injury that will never heal, I can't do push ups or it hurts like hell.
As for my laptop, it's honestly really really good. The battery could be better but I use it docked pretty much all the time.
The screen is insanely bright and crisp, 4k 15 inch, 600 nits
Also it doesn't throttle at all
The only thing I dislike about it is that I can't switch to using the nvidia gpu only, the display output is permanently connected to the intel gpu.
>Get into motorcycle accident. Fly over the hood of moronic woman's car, land on my backpack and roll for a bit.
Let me guess. You revved your engine and honked instead of braking and it's the woman's fault?
>You could also just get a mobile workstation
No you can't.
I just explained nobody makes them anymore.
Lenovo P series not good enough with 12900HXs and full Ampre A-series GPUs?
Nope, no good.
Just throttles because cooling is shit.
P series = throttling thin fashion toys.
T series = throttling super thin fashion toys
X series - throttling mega ultra thinnnnn fashion toys.
https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/
A bot made this thread.
I love mine :3
Only poors hate gaming laptops. I've got an X17 and it's rad
i've had a razer blade since 2016 and the only problem i've ever had was the battery bloating. not that i ever used it on battery anyway. it's just a lot more convenient to stuff it, the charger and a mouse in my bag than a monitor, mouse, keyboard and a whole ass desktop (even if the chassis is ony 10 liters)
>3k laptop
>no numpad
I bet it had a shitty 3060 as well lmao, good on the fatty for breaking it, the insurance will let him buy something better.
I have a numpad on my 15.6" laptop and you don't want one
They are often cheaply made for planned obsolescence.
Also the guy that reclined is not at fault, but the owner of the gaming laptop for placing it there, worst case scenario he can sue the company providing transport for the shitty design.
>he can sue the company providing transport for the shitty design
On what grounds? What "shitty design"? Do morons not know airline seats recline? That's their fault, no one else's.
>$3000 Laptop
>Flies Coach
If you sit in economy class, you should never lean. That is the common courtesy. The fatbutthole in front should pay for it.
shut it, fatty
I'm reclining and there's nothing your fatass can do about it
The amd laptops are fricking amazing, I'm happy with my Legion 7, it's solid has amazing linux support and has great battery.
No new GpU about worthless in 2 years.
But if your not a poor gay and make good money they are great. I buy a new msi every year, then again I made 72k last year
Portable electronics are far more likely to break than their stationary counterparts. Don't spend moron tier levels of money on a laptop when you could get a better desktop and a cheaper laptop for the same price.
This. I still use my 2014 macbook air, despite it being a very weak computer by modern standards, because I can just remote to my home computer to do more demanding things. I still get great battery life (Cheap DIY battery swap last year, it was very easy for an Apple product), it's slim and light, and it still runs all the softwares I need on the move anyway (Office, browser, VLC). The only thing that's bothering me about it, frankly, is that the screen is pretty low resolution. If I'm upgrading my laptop in the coming years, the deciding factors will be battery life and keyboard+screen quality.
Laptops should be portable and cheap, they're too small to get proper performance anyway. For the price of this Dell workstation laptop I could buy two standard office laptops and the parts to build a desktop PC with better performance.
Workstation laptops may make sense to corporations, the math works differently when you have that sort of budget, but to me as an enthusiast it's just insane. I'd rather have two mediocre laptops that will do 90% of my stuff, and then a powerful computer at home I can remote into that can handle the remaining 10%. If one of my laptops get stolen or broken, it's not the end of the world. If I lose that fancy workstation laptop for whatever reason and my insurance doesn't outright buy me a replacement, I'm fricked.
Gaming laptops just don't make sense period. You're paying a huge premium for a computer that isn't particularly portable, that will have a horrifying aesthetic designed to appeal to 16 year olds, and that won't even have any resale value. My old macbook? Eight years and counting and I can still sell it for 50% of what I paid for it.
>I'd rather have two mediocre laptops that will do 90% of my stuff, and then a powerful computer at home I can remote into that can handle the remaining 10%.
I'd rather have one computer that does everything and I can take it with me when I travel, even if it doesn't have good battery life (I treat the battery as a UPS, I don't need to use a laptop anywhere that doesn't have plugs anyway)
The point of the two laptops was more that I could buy a replacement and still be within budget. Obviously I'm not buying two immediately only to keep one on a shelf. What if
or something happened to your laptop? You'd be boned. Even if it was something the insurance does cover, like "some idiot spilled coffee on it while they walked past", the insurance company is going to fight you tooth and nail on paying out. I know from experience, my locked car was stolen from my own parking space in broad daylight, and the insurance company tried to argue that I didn't know if it was properly locked because I didn't put one of those hockey stick locks through the steering wheel, and when I got past that idiocy they argued that because I didn't park in a locked garage, I was still partially responsible. I spent months without a car before the cops admitted it was probably in Romania by now, and in that period the only compensation they were willing to extend to me was a city bus pas (I needed the car for commute outside the city so that wasn't good enough anyway).
If your super fancy workstation laptop gets nicked, you're out of luck. The police won't even look for it. The insurance may cover it, eventually, but they will give you less than replacing it will cost because their tables for electronics depreciation halve a computer's estimated value each year even though that hasn't been realistic for two decades. If my cheap office laptop gets nicked, I can go buy a new one and not be without while I argue with the insurance company. And when they pay me back, I'm "only" down about two hundred pounds. When they pay you back for your workstation laptop, you're down over a thousand pounds.
>Gaming laptops just don't make sense period
They do
>You're paying a huge premium
Stop being poor
>for a computer that isn't particularly portable,
It has everything in a single unit that fits in a backpack, how's that not particularly portable?
>that will have a horrifying aesthetic designed to appeal to 16 year olds
Get one that doesn't. There are plenty.
>that won't even have any resale value. My old macbook? Eight years and counting and I can still sell it for 50% of what I paid for it.
Refer to point #2
Refurbished workstations are great.
Razer Blade 15 inch gaming laptop
RTX 2060
Intel i7
16 gigs RAM
Running arch linux
Served me very well for 1 and a half years now, taken it with me to many countries. Only issue I'd say is that it does get quite hot but that isn't much of an issue for me since I use it for mostly programming anways.
>gaming
>laptop
No such thing
I bet my laptop can pump your desktop into submission.
bump
how come the laptop lid didnt just close???
i see you've never been on a plane before
i did an illustration since people are having trouble with this
holy shit im blind
ty for you illustration
all good, the key point is never put something under "B"
the tray is designed to stay flat when the chair is reclined, so the space between the tray and "B" can change, which creates a pinch point
All he had to do was not put it under the latch. It's what I do when I use my laptop on planes.
IQfy really is full of gays
I have literally forced the person in front of me back into the upright position to prevent this from happening. He stared at me, I stared at him, and kept too much pressure on his chair for it to recline. He eventually gave up.
Seriously, frick reclining airline chairs, and frick the people who try to use them.
>W700ds user
>and everyone clapped
If you're gonna be this much of a soreass just sit in bizness, gay.
They're expensive and IQfy is full of poorgays. If you travel around a bit then they're nice to have.
>If you want to lean back in a plane you should either not be flying with a cheap airline that stacks seats too close to each other or buy first class
>it's not the fault of the laptop owner
If the laptop owner didn't want his shit broken, he should either not be flying with a cheap airline that stacks seats too close to each other or buy first class.
If the laptop owner didn't want his shit broken, he shouldn't own a laptop.
>$3000 laptop
>plastic build
why are whites like this ?
asians made that laptop.
>I need METAL!!
I'm more disappointed manufacturers aren't using exotic plastics that are lighter and stronger than metal, like forged carbon plastic
why would you need a steel laptop
it's not meant to be thrown around the room
i do cad for school so i need a decent gpu.
im also a student so i can't afford both a laptop and a pc
ergo, gaming laptop
pros:
>you can play any game if you buy the specs you want
>30 series cards are out on mobile now
>if you edit video or do CAD on the go you pretty much need one
>if you want to use it as a desktop replacement you could, i do (only need to plug in charger and HDMI/type-c)
cons:
>abysmal battery life even in eco mode
>hot as frick, both the case and the air
>some compromise on specs
>moronic designs
>Bought a intel gaymin laptop
Many such cases
amd moron
What model and specs I can get damn near 8+ hours on my end.
bought it a lil over a year ago, legion 5 1660ti ryzen 7 4800h
I guess it's just a generational difference my 5000 series is good with energy.
I also have a legion and I do get better battery life on linux so you might want to try that out.
not a bad call. know any onenote alternatives for linux? needs to have photos
btw I know later legions had an option for an extended battery
IQfy doesn't know jackshit about modern gaming laptops. The latest Ryzen-equipped gaming laptops can get up to 10 - 12 hours of battery life, it's pretty wild.
Just don't get Intel, their 10nm cancer cannot compete with AMD's 6nm in efficiency.
I found IQfy hasn't been knowledgeable since 2012
It's like every opinion and recommendation they have is top tier.. for 2010
They keep recommending the same old things. They act like the last time they tried out electronics was a decade ago and haven't actually used anything since.
Just look at the old Thinkpads they shill. They look so outdated with their giant screen bezels lol.
Meanwhile modern gaming laptops can pass as business machines these days with their plain looks.
Old Thinkpads are recommended because they're reliable, cheap and have "good enough" performance for basic use.
Also who the frick cares about screen bezels?
>last time they tried out electronics was a decade ago and haven't actually used anything since
This is not an act.
lmao
I hate thintops. I always feel like they will break if I open them too quickly. In my senior year of highschool the laptop I saved up for broke when I placed a textbook on it and they've only become thinner since.
Gaming laptops are consoles, but even shittier. Maximum limitations, minimum optimization.
If first reply refrained from mentioning the work tool meme, I'd have said fpbp
Cope console monkey you still can't match even 2000 series laptops
Blessed post
Shitty thermals, shitty battery life, unnecessary as hell
If you want to game just buy a Steam Deck or one of the jerryrigged chink devices like the Aya Neo or GPD Win, been using my Aya Neo Pro for months to play vidya while on vacation and it works better than any shitty gaming laptop. For other use cases, like content creation or coding, just get a MacBook, even if the thermal throttling on those things sucks my dick.
All those Chink toys also have shitty thermals and a shitty battery life, except as a bonus you can't even use them to play actual PC games because you don't have mouse and keyboard and you have to use a shitty tiny screen, so you're stuck playing console shovelware. Saying they're better than a laptop is nothing but buyers remorse cope.
You're forgetting convenience, anon. I buy a portable device for convenience. I don't want to whip out a whole gaming laptop and mouse just to play some games on a plane and look autistic, I want to be able to just pick it up and play vidya. I only ever play console shovelware most of the time anyways. If I have to deal with a tiny screen and no easy keyboard solution, I don't care,
Stop coping
I wouldn't bring those shits out on a plane either
Gaming laptops are versatile tools
>You're forgetting convenience, anon
Yeah because it's really convenient playing Dwarf Fortress, Factorio or Crusader Kings on a 6 inch screen with baby sizes analog sticks and no keyboard and mouse.
It's like saying waterboarding is a convenient replacement for taking a shower.
They aren't made for gaming because your shoulders are wider and white men have the widest shoulders.
They aren't good for rendering and stuff that use expensive gpus because they overheat
The irony is steam deck has worse battery than modern gaming laptops and performance.
What did he expect and why should the airline pay for this? This is a very normal design. Don't wedge the screen in there. The top will move more than the bottom because it pivots from the bottom. It's like putting your laptop in a doorway and then blaming someone else when the door shuts on it.
>gaming laptop starts working
>So much fan noise and heat starts being generated the guy in front thinks the jet engines are ramping up for takeoff
>He leans back to buckle up for takeoff
Using a laptop on the plane is uncomfortable period
It's one of the few times a tablet comes in handy
Two laptops with e.g a 3070 are not performing the same as one company may choose to tune the card to perform similarly to a lower tier card to save on heat output while another may just ramp that shit up to perform similarly to a desktop 3070.Laptops have been overpriced for the specs you get vs desktops (excluding the recent cryptocurrency boom hiking the gpu prices to the sky) while its much harder to cool high performance components on a restricted chasis so they usually dont perform or par with similarly specced desktops or if they somehow do, they run hot AF. Only thing they have over desktops,which are also easier to upgrade/maintain, is portability so I see why certain people choose them for work/meetings/travel. Im personally waiting™ on a steam deck, as i don't have a use for another scenario other than traveling.Its much more versatile than a laptop in my book, hook it up with an external display on any hotel room or with a portable monitor, add a 60% or smaller keyboard and a mouse and you got yourself a nice setup for gaymes or work (I dont really do that much work away from home but its there if needed, as long as you dont need to take it to a meeting, which would be hilarious).
>Tldr, always pick a desktop unless you have use for the portability of a laptop, especially if it is an everyday tool for your work.
Completely missing the point.
99% of actually good PC games were released between 1990 and 2010, and they run even on most business laptops, let alone anything with a dedicated GPU.
Why do I care about Black person troony Simulator 2023 and Cyberhomosexual 2077 and waste money on a desktop when I could play HoMM3 or Alpha Centauri or Civ 4 on a 10 year old laptop with Windows 7 that I got for free basically?
And buying a handheld PC and then having to chug around a separate keyboard, mouse and a portable screen, and then claiming needing a separate suitcase just for your gaming toy and peripherals it better or more portable than a laptop is maximum cope.
Looking at the weight total of the deck and the peripherals, it doesnt weigh much more than 2-2.5kg which is as much if not less than a gayming/workstation laptop.Space is not an issue either, as there exist low profile keyboards that still have better "feels" than most laptop keyboards(e.g royal kludge rk925).A wireless mouse like e.g a g305 is not more than 100g nowadays and doesnt take up much space either.Same thing for a dongle.I get your point only with the portable monitor which can be a bit of a pain depening on what you get, as even though there exist many slim options, the weight is usually about 600-800 grams.
>Tldr, same or even slightly less weight as a high performance laptop, much more versatile setup. Also, thinking everyone wants to play older games/never even once buy to play something newer, that is maximum cope.
>much more versatile setup
Except it's not much more versatile, the exact opposite. You didn't even mention a USB hub which is the first thing you'd need for this moronic Frankenstein setup. You're literally bringing 3x more stuff that also take 3x more space to end up with a significantly worse setup than a simple laptop.
>Also, thinking everyone wants to play older games/never even once buy to play something newer
Yeah people who care about good PC games tend to play good PC games, which happen to be older games. It's not even an opinion, but a simple fact. People who want to play a troony Simulator 2023 can do so, but I wouldn't call that "playing a video game", it's more like LARPing as a gamer.
Oh but i did mention the hub just used layspeak and called it a dongle.So here you go: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08CKXNJZS/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_T3DZ72CXKQ4WPQY8DVJ6
If that is much of a weight or size to you im really baffle, and while i dont really like simulation games there are people who do and have a job as well.Again, only -kind of an issue- would be the monitor depending on what is bought.
>If that is much of a weight or size to you im really baffle
Carrying around 5 different devices instead of 1 or 2, and with worse performance and everything else, is an issue for any sane person, and you'd have to be an actual moron or coping with buyers remorse to claim otherwise.
I can also pack my entire desktop PC case together with a mouse and keyboard and a portable monitor, but I'm not gonna claim that's a valid replacement for a laptop either.
Cope harder, no sane person would ever do that with a full sized desktop computer in 2022.You mean to tell me you have never carried a dongle or a mouse with a laptop ever? Worse performance compared to what? Would it matter to you personally if all you are playing is older games on a 2010 bussiness igpu laptop?Its all relative to an individual's needs and you have just run out of arguments friend.
>no sane person would ever do that
A person claiming that carrying around a Steam Deck + usb hub + mouse + keyboard + portable monitor + extension cord and power adapters to plug all this crap in is better or equally portable than a simple laptop + mouse is not by any definition a sane person.
At that point it actually is better to pack your desktop PC in a suitcase.
What is usb-c pass through charging.Only a single adapter is needed.
>The state.Im done here.
Pass through charging for a monitor? The frick am I reading?
if you pay 3000 for a computer, you can pay at least bussiness class
this guy is a homosexual
i want this
> Too expensive
> Too hot
> Less powerful than a proper PC
> Too loud
> crap cheap keyboards that break
> Cheap plastic shells that break
Every single guy i know that got a gaming laptop has had issues with it 1 year down the line.
what if I want a portable piece of computing device no optimised for slimness and gimped to artificially inflate battery life?
e.g. a laptop with a proper CPU and ample RAM
Nothing wrong with laptops, desktop PCs for non-business use haven't been relevant in almost a decade, and with the way current things are, it will be even less relevant in the future. Desktop homosexuals love to brag about MUH POWER meanwhile biggest games on PC are literal mobile game ports, 2$ cheapo FOTM indie games ripped off from Google Play Store and poorly optimized console ports.
Actual PC games (besides stuff like modern flight sims in VR) can run on a 10 year old laptop just fine.
No one has recommended Sager game's on medium laptop?!
Best bang/buck.
>be manchild
>have to gayme all the time
>even in the tightest out of all places
>suprised when your shit breaks
kill all Black folk
>buy $3000 gaming laptop
>fly economy
Is the XPS 17 considered a gaming laptop? I fricking love mine and it has since replaced my desktop completely.
Man that sucks
The unfortunate common case among computer enthusiasts is talking out your ass even if you have no clue about anything
Gaming laptops are AMAZING at least since the last generation, you could get a 3070 laptop for 1.1k which is equivalent to a 3060 ti desktop that's was the price for a 3060 ti alone for a few months i have a MacBook air (the best laptop in existence) and my legion 5 is pretty alright in comparison battery lasts for like 8 hours Which is plenty and during gaming it doesn't make more noise then a lower quality cooler full size 3060 ti
Mini itx is a full blown meme however, worst of both worlds
>3070 laptop for 1.1k which is equivalent to a 3060 ti desktop
lol, more like $1700 minimum. 3060 laptops are still around $1500.
>i have a MacBook air (the best laptop in existence)
M1 Pro 14 is, but I grant you this
>Mini itx is a full blown meme however, worst of both worlds
wrong
>The unfortunate common case among computer enthusiasts is talking out your ass even if you have no clue about anything
2 for 3 that's you. and best laptop is subjective, even if the power to performance ratio for m1 macs is great.
Rittle me this, I work offshore month on month off and bring a gaming laptop with me. Would you reasonably suggest me an alternative to not using a laptop?
I have an MSI gaming laptop that cost over $3k, the specs CPU (12700H, 3070 Ti, 32 GB, two NVMEs) are great (I can run Linux on the E cores and iGPU, and pass the P cores and dGPU through to Windows, so it functions competently as two computers at once) but it could probably be used to start a barbecue when I'm gaming. The only other issue I have is the power jack being loose that you don't expect on such an expensive item. Thermal issues are to be expected from a laptop so overall I'm happy with it. In the winter it doubles as a space heater.
Wish the 17" laptops weren't all for gaming. Just want a nice screen, full keyboard and that's about it. Something comfy and easy to read on for use in a reclining chair.
Lots of uninformed posters in this thread
What's the problem wanting a device that's almost 3070 desktop level?
My legion 7 runs circles around my 5700xt/3700x system.
If you get a laptop that can moonlight as a regular laptop you're fine.
> Clams fragile and expensive thing into a moving surface
> Blames airplane company when it expectedly breaks
This is America.
Mainly bad airflow and very noisy, but 3000 for a gaming laptop is not worth it just because it says Alienshit on the case. A good gaming laptop would be like a Legion 5 or 7 and those are around 1k.
To add last gen is also on sale a lot and it's easy to get a full powered 3080 laptop for 2k or less
I just got a last gen XPS 15 at 30% off. That OLED screen is gorgeous, I can't wait until the tech becomes more mainstream.
based XPS bro. I have one from 2016 thats now purely a workstation. Such solid laptops.
my work laptop gave me the model released a year ago, very based. OLED panel isnt that impressive, my 27" 4k monitor is way more useful and just as good colors
the ONLY criticism I have for gaming laptops is the posture that they put you in.
They used to be terrible value, performance and ran hot and loud as hell.
Back in 2012 a top of the line gaming laptop for >$2k had a power limited $200 GPU in it.
Anything reasonably priced was a joke in terms of performance.
Since 2016 though things have changed drastically, as laptop versions of GPUs were actually the same as the desktop equivalent but power limited, meaning performance was actually fairly close. Thanks to the efficiency of the GPUs it was actually possible to make laptops that weren't total abominations that could actually run games nearly as well as a similarly speced (but still cheaper) desktop.
This has reversed a bit with Ampere, the 3080 laptop is actually a 3070, but it's still a lot better than when the 680m was a 660.
Due to the extreme prices of GPUs since Ampere's release getting a laptop actually became a better deal than getting a desktop. When a laptop with a 3060 was $1200 and the equivalent desktop GPUs (RTX 2060/RX 6600) were $700 or above it no longer made sense to get a desktop.
In a world with normal pricing it makes way more sense to get a desktop if you don't specifically need the portability, since it's way cheaper and a desktop can be upgraded way cheaper in the future compared to buying a new laptop every few years.
I don't see the point
For one they heat up a lot, and I'm not a fan of that. I'd rather have something more low powered that wasn't a chore to use. But then playing games on a laptop is just wrong. I either play with a gamepad or a mouse and keyboard. I'd only buy a laptop for portability. I don't want to sit somewhere and pull out a fricking mouse or a gamepad while laptop is on my lap. It's very stupid to me. The screen isn't great either. If I wanted a smaller screen I'd just go all the way down and buy a handheld for games. I feel much, much more comfortable playing some dumb fricking romhack on my RG351P than fricking playing some dumb fricking 3D horse fricking simulator 2023 nonsense on a laptop of all things.
I'd rather spend much less on a normal laptop considering most of what I would actually play on one is visual novels or older games that run on anything. Or spend less on anything that was lighter and less hot overall. When I see behemoth laptops I just want to throw up.
I hate everything gaming.
t. real gamer.
>I hate everything gaming.
The industry understood that slapping "gaming" on any piece of hardware is same as the apple logo on an iphone.
>brings large frame laptop to economy class
>pic happens
>blames flight company
What did he expect would happen?
looks like this is a problem unique to the particular model. the asus m series has the thing where part of the top lid that has the screen becomes the back feet when opened. that part got caught between on the rails of the table so the laptop didnt just slide forwards on the table when the guy leaned back. any other laptop that got caught like that would just cause the lid to close a bit.
>3000$ gaming laptop
>no numpad
??????????????????
It's a laptop
>do moronic thing
>waaaaaaah it's anyone's fault but my own
>Nothing about it being a reclining chair means that it has to have a rectangular block sticking out that acts as a pinch point between the table
>It's a design flaw
The thing that sticks out is where the retention mechanism is mounted. It's needed, and even if it were flush with the back of the seat the retention mechanism would still have done this damage to OPs stupid laptop.
They're hated because most techie people have autism and can't understand any use case other than their own. I travel a ton, a gaming laptop is essential if I dont want to lug around a tower, monitor and accessories.
Other friends use cases: His parents are divorced and hes always jumping between his parents and grandparents homes.
A friend has a 1.5hr bus commute each day and likes playing on a bus.
Another friend lives in a house without air conditioning so depending on how hot a part of the house is, he moves around and takes his laptop with him.
Yes, you'll pay a premium. No they're not for everyone. But getting mad about them is just pure autism.
The problem is that no one "needs" a gaming laptop except obese manchildren.
so who is liable in this case?
laptop owner, obviously
>in half
It's a laptop, it's supposed to do that
Honestly depends entirely on the laptop. Some are absolutely dogshit and then you find one that's built really well
Gies yer laptop
>whats your opinion on gaming laptops?
I'm more open to them in the past due to the GPU market is full moron. Even with stocked store shelves at MSRP they're still fricking moronic. 12th gen Intel and the next Ryzens are too expensive, DDR5 is too expensive a gaming laptop is looking like a good deal to me rn
>whats your opinion on gaming laptops?
A laptop should not run heavy applications.
a windowing system is the heaviest application that should be run.
I'm actually sick of how negative all you homosexuals are.
>video games are for children
>wah wah wah, why are they hated so much????
gee i wonder
The laptops aren't hated, just the idiots who buy them. Purchasing a gaming laptop shows that you can't conduct yourself in public like an adult. You need constant entertainment. Plus, the fans on those things sound like a jet engine taking off. No one wants to hear it.
Grow the frick up.
Because gaming laptops are for kiddies that can't build their own PC. I take my gaming desktop with me everywhere.
I think owning one is the first step in understanding why they’re deserving of hate
Because the money is better spent on a higher spec'd gaming desktop that is not going to thermal throttle or die when the battery inevitably cannot hold hold a charge anymore.
>Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry for breaking your laptop sir! Please, allow me to compensate you for the damages. Please give my your contact details and I will be in touch with you.
>*ghosts moronic gaming laptop owner*