Whats your opinion on pirating books?
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Whats your opinion on pirating books?
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Essential if you want to get ahead today. That said, I still buy physical for any books I either want to write notes in or that I consider to be an intrinsic part of who I am.
If it's from a living relatively unknown author don't be a Black person and buy his book.
If it's from a dead author go ahead.
If it's from a sanctioned scam like college textbooks, it's your moral duty to pirate them.
The rest is a grey area.
fuvk living authors
>fuvk
moronic summerBlack person kys
where do you think you are homosexual
Just get them, and buy the books, maybe gift them to someone, or whatever. I have been thinking about starting to donate money to some library or something.
Literally the greatest thing on the internet. Book piracy is praxis.
Good if they’re overpriced or out of print
The fact that I have access to 5000 years of literature at my fingertips yet I struggle to read a single page is a testament to how much "modern society" has rotten our brains. I don't think I have hope. I've tried time and again but nope I just can't.
Do you read off a screen or a physical copy?
I've tried both but mostly off a screen.
Physical is incomparably better for focus, IMO. You can have a book printed out and spiral bound for pretty cheap.
It isn't the times, it's you. Just read, moron.
Argh matey
I buy used books so my local library will get a huge score when I die.
I'm pro piracy of everything. It's the only way to be a responsible consumer. There's just too much stuff out there, and a lot of it is garbage. I think the best course is to pirate to at least try and then buy if you like it. I don't begrudge people who don't do that second part, though.
Everyone I read is dead. No one deserves their royalties less than whoever it is currently mooching off their name.
But uh translations and adaptations.
I support the practice
I'm glad the upcoming internet 3.0 will make it impossible to practice theft of intellectual property.
You are moronic if you think that anything will ever stop piracy.
Freedom is often illegal, piracy is no different. The idea of intellectual "property" keeps us bound, it restrains us. Sometimes someone else has to uncuff you, sometimes you have to uncuff others, sometimes you have to uncuff yourself.
Take what you can, give nothing back.
>You are moronic if you think that anything will ever stop piracy.
you sounds like those morons who said crypto will never be regulated, yet here we are.
>forced need of samizdat will cull bad books and curate the great "wrongthink" works
Seems comfy.
Digital piracy is largely the act of a coward and those whose pockets lack commitment and fingers lack creativity.
which publishing company came up with this?
Publishers and Peterson advocate for shoplifting?
when did Clarendon hire Juden Peterstein to shill on 4chong lmao
Yeah, it's pretty fricking unethical. If you can afford a computer and an internet connection, you probably can afford to buy a book. And if you're poor (which I doubt), just visit a library. That's their whole point.
Pirates need to be prosecuted.
Have a few non-academic books published, and you'll start to understand why.
Have you seen the price of second-hand books these days?
What level of poorgay do you need to be before you start pirating books?
Get a job, you fricking NEET. Even a burger-flipper can buy all the books he wants.
Piracy is theft
Mixed feelings, because the publishing rights Always owned by some israelite corporate and marketed through a israelite monopoly retailer.
If you stole a phisical book from a store, you would be stealing in the order of cents from the author.
Digital publishing should make it very easy to buy directly from the author, platforms that sell books really have nothing to offer the consumer at all.
Digital piracy would seem to impact authors to a far greater degree than phisical theft. The "product" of online platforms is really the anti piracy provisions, but that's only relevent to the author if the author (not the publisher) would be the victim of digital piracy
The argument that piracy undermines profits and thus devalues works is weak and disingenuous because authors aren't paid on the value of their work, they are paid based on the leverage publishers have over them... for example refusing to publish ANY of an authors works if the author self publishes ANY work.
Frankly authors should run an online co-op, which unlike most commie co-op fantasies is actually viable by dint of its geographic reach. Like steam this would make digital books so cheap that nobody would steal them.
Kindle was essencially an attempt to lock consumers into this model through the device they used; but the corporate immediately abused the monopoly they had on the platform in the same way itunes engaged in profiteering.
Buy through a co-op platform, and vandalize a israeli publishing house whenever you can.
Will steal this idea for future
I'll upload my books on soulseek. I rather someome read my book for free than not, especially with the millions of other books out there. In addition, if someone wants to buy something, they will. I bought Dungeons of Dredmor and Tome4 despite one being perfectly playable pirated and one being free with DLC. (There's no book analogy I can use becaus all my books have the author either dead, or I go to my library for)
im a moral anti-realist so i have no opinion ad my feelings are quite neutral.
>moral anti-realist
Just call yourself moronic and spare some letters
Why is moral anti-realism moronic?
It's part of the market place. Eventually if someone wants to read a door stopper , they will figure out that a clean physical copy is best.
I pirated a few versions of Don Quixote, got a few public domains, but then just bought the pengy version from B&N for $17. I've done this a few times in the exact same way. This in no way justifies anything, all I'm saying is that the marketplace is vague and interconnected.
it's just practical
I want to read what I want to read when I want to read it, without any sort of investment in case I don't like it. simple as.
Same thing I feel about pirating anything else. If it is art, then artists should make new things if they want to make a living from it. So if it's over 15-20 years old, I will pirate it. I also think that if you're poor as frick, you're not going to buy stuff like that anyway when you need to pay rent or buy food, etc. So in that case you should also pirate no matter what.
In the textbook side of things, that's different, I feel the same for that as I do for pirating something like photoshop/protools/premiere. If you make money from it, pay the people that allow you to make a living, if you are a hobbyist then pirate away. If and when you start making money, that's when you have an obligation to pay for it.
I'm a musician, I make my living with music, I release my music as pay what you want because we live in a new era where things are freely available, I think that's actually a good thing. I myself have benefitted from it plenty, I make my money in other ways (though my music still provides me a portion of income because some people want to financially support artists when they respect that this is now a choice). Through merchandise, live performance, and various other jobs like producing other artists and so on.
>I release my music as pay what you want
i'm the type of guy to pay 1 cent for an album
You can get my music for free, and besides that, if I had a problem with what you're talking about, I wouldn't release my music as pay what you want.
I'm just happy when people listen to my music.
link to your music?
I really appreciate the interest anon but I don't like to post my music on here or other forums/social media.
I prefer to let my music to stand on its own, and I also like my artist persona to have a bit of mystery to it. I don't want any opinions of mine to be associated with my music if its not in my music, I feel like social media has made artists too open about shit and I think something is lost because of that. Probably sounds kinda weird I suppose but its just something I'm very strict about tbh.
that's understandable and i feel similarly as a musician myself. i won't pry then.
Anyone has an active link to ZLib, on Tor, then?
Use IRC instead.
> Be me, oligarch.
> Sipping on brandy, see the absurdity of lit anons pirating books.
> "As if common rabble could appreciate Infinite Jest," I scoff.
> "Free education, free thinking, free... (shudders) ...will?"
> Almost spit out my brandy, tastes like Rupi Kaur.
> "Free books for the poor... (snort) what next? Free monocles for the desk wagies? Free top hats for bald redditors? Free mustache stache wax for the whisker challenged?"
It feels like what internet was made for proper, sharing knowledge. besides book piracy I highly recommend checking out archive.org's library scans for older books. It's a very similar feeling to browsing the musty backroom shelves of physical libraries. On software side Zotero is handy for reading and managing pdfs on PC.
if you weren't going to pay for it in the first place be it due to lack of money etc, no harm no foul. That being said, it's always good to support the writers you like when you can. I'm a big fan of the "test drive new writers then buy if I like them" method.
it's based, free books = good and I wouldn't want anyone finding out I read books by seeing a disgusting wall of performance in my apartment. sometimes I use the library but I hide the books before someone comes over
severely neurotic behaviour
You see those footnotes and bibliography in your book? Book piracy is what allows curious laymen without university access to actually do further reading in a sensible manner. It's essentially wikihopping on steroids.
Can't display it in the background when recording crypto life coach videos. Why would you skimp out on the props?
I mean, if you live in murica on any other rich western country, it is immoral to pirate books of living authors, you can get it by Amazon in 2 days, and let's face it, you're rich enough to afford it.
>nooooo mu authorinos won't get their three dollars if you ILLEGALLY PIRATE their books you NEED to STOP nowwwww
fricking moron. that's more the problem of the authors than is it mine, homie
Nah its your problem because if you like their work and everyone is like you, then it will be financially infeasible for them to put any significant amount of time into writing.
How fricking stupid are you?
>and everyone is like you
cool assumption.
most pirates will support authors if they like the work and want a physical copy.
buying books before you know you even like them is moronic lol, imagine gambling money on a book you might not even like.
You didn't communicate that aspect at all and its somehow my fault?
wasn't even that anon that you replied to but assuming that every pirate is some kind of anti-moralist artist-hater is absurd.
if someone truly appreciates your work, they'll buy it. don't you worry little author.
besides, most of the books that are pirated are major works by dead authors. less notable contemporary works are harder to find on pirate sites.
your novel on amazon would probably sell about the same, even if piracy were impossible.
For someone who doesn't like assumptions, you sure made a lot of them yourself.
You assumed I'm talking about you, if you actually pay for works, then I don't consider you a pirate, you're just someone who tries before they buy. And two, you assume I'm an author when I'm not.
You're more of a moron than the first anon I replied to.
so you just defend artists online without being one yourself? sounds pretty pathetic.
go soapbox on reddit, bugbrain.
More assumptions. I'm a musician. But even if I wasn't, the point is still valid and I like art and I want it to continue being made. Don't start saying "I buy art if I like it", not talking about you, as I already said.
At this point, I'm convinced you're either sub 90 IQ or a troll. Neither is good.
Not giving modern authors money is the morally correct thing to do
>a book exists
>I want to read it
>my friend has a copy
>borrow it
>author receives nothing
>the library has a copy
>borrow it
>author receives nothing
If you’re opposed to piracy I assume you also oppose libraries and the act of lending books?
service issue
I view it as a public library. Like public libraries, they aren't sitting on my bookshelf and have a sense of ownership; however, I partake in them whenever I like.
There's no point in buying to support the writers when 90% of the revenue goes towards the publishers and when 90% of the writers are in the industry thanks to neopotism. People like Rowling and Stephen King only became rich thanks to media adaptations and promotions.
It's even worse in academics, science and humanities writers get 0% revenue from each article sold, all goes to the publisher and they sell those articles for $40 up to $110. And they barely get pennies from books too.
The same opinion I have for pirating any form of media: It is irrelevant if someone pirates a work or not. Someone who pirates is someone who wouldn't but the product anyway.
One, if your work is pirated X times, it doesn't mean that you lost X sales. That's the same as saying someone who doesn't purchase your work is a lost sale, and thus you'd lose 7.9~ billion sales each time.
Two, piracy can be beneficial for your works. If someone learns of them through hearsay, and then pirates them out of curiosity, you've earned yourself a follower, and possibly someone who will wish to support you financially by buying your next works.
Third, if the author's dead, the money's not going to him anyway. It's going to the editorial israelite, who is objectively moral to pirate.
Fourth, if the work is academic, it's also morally objective to pirate.
Fifth, who the frick cares. Yarr harr fiddle dee dee.