When did Hacker News become full of absolute morons? This moronic astrology-level fantasy shit gets more comments than almost all technical articles.
When did Hacker News become full of absolute morons?
When did Hacker News become full of absolute morons? This moronic astrology-level fantasy shit gets more comments than almost all technical articles.
most of their traffic comes from people who worship cows and rats.
You really think that pajeets are this common? I thought that most HN users are Americans.
all tech sources anywhere are indian. look up "how to xyz on linux" on youtube and after all the big channel, every videos is HALLO SER DEES ES HOW TO UPDATE DEE KERNAL
What time are you living in, the 1960s? All tech companies are fronted by jeets.
good morning sir
yes a country of 1.6 billion things is common
Despite being just 7% of the population jeets account for nearly half of the software engineers in the US.
>When did
consider this, what percent of the HN user practice Hinduism? there is your answer
Read or watch Rupert Sheldrake on this topic. Whether or not the sun is conscious, the most important issue is that scientists don't have a fricking clue what consciousness is. Keep that in mind next time someone talks about AGI.
Also if you want to go further on the topic, read Leibniz and specifically on monadism/monadology. I expect it to all go over the thick skulls of Hacker News, but as far as consciousness goes, science hasn't even begun work, probably because of their cult of scientism and unrelenting denial of God.
This is dumb. There are pretty good theories of consciousness, people are just unsatisfied with them because they don't fulfill their "spiritual" wishful thinking. And just because there isn't a complete scientific theory of something, doesn't give you license to make shit up. Also
>god
LMAO
Okay so where exactly is the line drawn? What makes an animal conscious and not an insect? Are reptiles conscious? Where exactly in the body does consciousness exist? What is the specific reproducable test for consciousness? What is the most basic unit of consciousness, or the smallest structure that meets the criteria for consciousness? Modern scientists are the one making shit up instead of updating their models. Whether they are neo-pagans claiming the sun is conscious, or atheists claiming it isnt
>What is the specific reproducable test for consciousness?
Wave-function collapse.
>There are pretty good theories of consciousness,
And how have you made that determination, moron?
moronic. The idea that theories of consciousness would be incompatible with religion is fricking idiotic. Theories of consciousness aren't really trying to grapple with the same thing that religion is; one is about the phenomenology of the mind, the other is about the origin of being. Only morons do this dumb "science vs religion" shit.
Oh yeah? What happens when you make consciousness in a lab and it wants to join your religion?
You let it. What kind of hypothetical is this even? Why would you consider anything else? What idea are you trying to provoke here?
>Why would you consider anything else?
Because it doesn't have a soul.
Firstly if you were trying to start a discussion about the spiritual aspect of consciousness (or if those things are separated), asking if I'd let an artificial consciousness join a religion is a pretty fricking moronic way to start that dialog.
Both the soul, and consciousness are elements of the internal experience. As much as I can't prove that you, or my dog don't have consciousness, I can't prove that you or my dog have a soul. So the discussion is pretty fricking pointless. It's just as easy to make the claim about other people. Even if we had some sort of "soul measuring device" that allows us to weed beings "without souls" out, I don't think it would be a productive or meaningful enterprise; it's not really damaging anyone or hurting anything if we allowed beings without souls to take part it religious ceremony, since there's more benefit from it than merely the spiritual aspect. Things like community, relationships, and culture take a part in it too. It's really not your place to judge how a being (soulless or otherwise) interacts with their world, as long as they're not making it worse.
That's all kind of besides the point though since we still don't have a way of detecting these qualities in any entity, artificially intelligent or not. The closest heuristic we have for whether or not an entity may have a spirit is whether or not the entity shows some form of intelligence or consciousness. AI, in its current form exhibits several properties that we would usually correlate with entities that have souls, but since we can't validate that for anything, it's unfair to invalidate AI simply because you have rigid ideas of what constitutes as consciousness or having a spirit. In short: if AI has all the properties of something with a mind, the burden of proof is on you to show that it doesn't have a mind, because we don't have a formalism for qualifying such a thing.
Now, if you can do that, then you're good.
> Leibniz on modanology
Least obvious Haskell shill.
How does one Turing test a star? Does Sheldrake have any ideas about that?
hackernews has been a mix of dunning-kruger boomers and indian wannabe startup entrepreneurs since the beginning of time
they all worship some moron named paul graham who spews pseudo-intellectual nonsense on his geocities website
sun is conscious
Stop, you're hurting the Sun's feelings.
the only correct answer is that everything, down to the atomic level, is the conscious dreaming of the Godhead. So yes the Sun is conscious.
Yes it is, it sends turing complete systems in the form of electromagnetic radiation onto human skin which can read and write to human dna.
reddit migration
when reddit was created. theyre the same MDS tards that come here too.
Been this way for a long ass time, so many Bay Area losers. Anything with hygiene or some topics bring out all sorts of strange "I brush my teeth once a month, never wear deoderant. I never smell, I get compliments all the time" and random shit. Anything with politics or housing really shows, and it's been overrun with tons of international propaganda bots.
It's really apparently how bad things are because the classic page has been completely different from the regular page when they used to be very similar. I stopped browsing regularly a while ago because it stopped being about any interesting tech or discussions years ago