When did italian culture started to be seen centered around gangsters, crime and hair grease?
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When did italian culture started to be seen centered around gangsters, crime and hair grease?
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Thats just italo americans
The better question is when did italian culture got to be centered around pizza and pasta ?
It's what you get when you go to America. You'll melt and all that is left of your spirit is the slag. That is what you are reduced to. The simplest slag consisting of mere shadows of anything real. This is what you are, mutt.
>This is what you are, mutt
kek 90% of shitalians wouldnt pass as white over here.
Aren't you the brownest country in the west?
They are still whiter than you
>heh nornal men wouldn't pass as trannies!
Why would anyone want to look like a troony? Likewise, why would anyone want to be white? whites are the cuckedest race in history
Trannies make up .005% of US population. And as an American I can confirm that people would probably assume many Italians are latinos until hearing their name. It's not just the olive skin but the kinky black hair. Some Italian: look as white as anyone however.
Sicilians are semitic not mexican looking
>implying Americans can tell what the difference is by appearance
Most Americans just assume brown people who don't look Indian or visibly Islamic are Latino. That's how it is in this country. In New York or Los Angeles which have more ethnic diversity people have more nuanced perspectives.
>Sicilians are semitic
lol no
>the kinky black hair
>italians
This is why people call you mutts you know.
Italians who immigrated to the USA are mostly terroni
Terroni are majority brown haired and wavy haired though. Guys like your pic would pass a 70s reenactor in southern Italy.
They all look like the Nazi Aryan Ideal compared to amerisharts
These replies show that med posters really are spics.
Wah wah wah homosexual
Sorry we don't feel the need to say pasta Vespucci when we fellate each other in the street as greeting between acquaintances you diseased fricks
Lol
About the same time french culture became about frogs and baguettes, ir german culture about wurstels and beer, or burgers with burgers and soda.
Culinary stereotypes are the lowest level interaction between friendly cultures, so of course they're gonna be the first thing people think of.
Why is this board so obsessed over Italians?
>why is a history board obsessed with one of, if not the most historied land on earth?
Gee anon, I don't know.
and yet shitalians aren't known for anything but food and the world's most obnoxious accent
Nobody seethes as much as you're doing because of food and accents anon.
They clearly have more than that to their credit and you're living proof.
mfw leo da vinci
mfw gerolamo cardano
mfw michelangelo
mfw caravaggio
mfw machiavelli
mfw dante
Literally who
>muh artists
>literally who
really says a lot about american education
None of them identified as Italian
They did moron
>yet they were all born in italy and spoke italian
He's trying to be clever over semantics because they would have all identified as whatever state they were under at the time, Dante being a Florentine, for example. The modern Italian language follows this same logic, as it is based on Florentine while other regions spoke another Italian variant derived directly from Latin.
>they would have all identified as whatever state they were under at the time
Would they? Plebs might have considered themselves part of this or that polity, but italian intellectuals considered themselves one single community from the Alps to Sicily. They all moved from one city and court to the next with no regard for politics, they all considered themselves part of the same artistic scene, etc.
You don't identify as a homosexual either and yet here we are
>world's most obnoxious accent
Wtf are you talking about??
They have the most beautiful language in the world
>lets shitalians live in his head rent free
Absolute state of (You)
A tremendous wave of Nordicists, unironic neo (mutt) Nazis, and hispanics who LARP as white immigrated from /misc/, whereupon faced with the reality of the Mediterranean origins of civilization in Europe devolve into WE WUZZING and shitting up the board with their meme 19th century.racial theories. Since Italians and Greeks represent a hurdle which they cannot explain away when they look at their own ancestors they reeee into oblivion.
>Since Italians and Greeks represent a hurdle which they cannot explain away when they look at their own ancestors they reeee into oblivion.
This
You don't know what you're talking about, as usual. hispanics perform mental gymnastics to LARP as Romans. They wouldn't be shitting on Italians.
Rich inbred hispanics from the countries elite (who are balding by 21) like to LARP as white and have an inherent hatred for anything darker then them as infeiror. They then come to IQfy and LARP as 'hello fellow white man's to Europeans when they're basically a shitty disregarded copy of actual Europeans, like muttmericans. They try to join the 'white' racialist cool kids on IQfy by acting racist and LARPing as a Europeans.
Is that why every thread insulting native americans as stone age savages here has a bunch of med posters turn up that invariably start shitposting about 'nordoids'? Hmmm, what ethnic group simultaneously identifies with both native americans and a Mediterranean nation?
>homosexuals insult native Americans as savage
>Point out their ancestors were even more moronic savages and only advanced due to contact with med civilizations
>this makes muttmericans and Nordoids seethe so much they invent all sorts of cope as pilpul so you do not point out that obvious fact
Not everyone has such low self esteem that they have to 'MY ANCESTOR' to feel validated. One can appreciate other cultures and point out facts without having to pertain to said cultures. It just makes nordicists seethe.
out their ancestors were even more moronic savages and only advanced due to contact with med civilizations
Let's accept this worldview. How do you explain away the fact that Northern Europeans advanced due to contact with med civilisations (and advanced well beyond their wildest imaginations at that), whilst Native Americans after contact with med civilisations just turned into cartel-led shitholes?
Easy my Nordoid friend. Nords came in contact with Rome maybe a hundred years BC at most. When Romans left Brtian, after occupation for 300, years, it remained a shithole. Germanic countries were still very backwards compared to Italy and Greece some 500 years after Roman contact. First contact of native Americans with Europeans was 500 years ago give or take. And we have south Americans going to university, and engineers and inventors coming out (which immediately get poached thanks to brain drain by other powers like Britain and America). Nords, 500 years after Roman contact still lived in shitholes and didn't really advance culturally. Hell, Saxon Britain was still pretty much shit even 800 AD. Explain the difference between gang cartels after European contact and pagan raiding parties and mercenaries which existed well after hundreds upon hundreds of years after med contact. Get off /misc/ and actually fricking study history you moron
pink subhuman g*rmshits btfo yet again
Nigel will have no rebuttal to this
>natives are actually intelligent because they stack rock
get a load of this moron
Seethe, Nigel. Your civilizational development is as slow as your birthrates.
>civilizational development
>stacking rocks
how long did it take them to begin creating a language again after establishing massive calorie surpluses thanks to one of the most food rich areas of the planet
>we-we had it tougher!
Lmao at the cope. Mesoamericans had indoor plumbing, art, architecture and we're creating fricking calendars while the entirety of northern Europe could do nothing but frick goats, and ooga booga.
please die, stupid beaner
You will die and never reproduce, Nordoid pigskin incel. Your ancestors were monkeys who stole everything but better people's. Black folk frick your women and still they won't frick you. Seethe
Dilate
Have sex. Oh wait, you can't
>Lmao at the cope. Mesoamericans had indoor plumbing, art, architecture and we're creating fricking calendars while the entirety of northern Europe could do nothing but frick goats, and ooga booga.
Sheeeit Pablo, what the frick happened? How did you lot fall so far from grace? Some hyper-advanced alien creatures must have beamed down and btfo your futuristic civilisation.
>Nordoid considers indoor plumbing and architecture as super advanced
Checks out
kys
>Juan will outbreed you in one generation
Meanwhile all you can do is LARP as greater people then you and cry that your women frick Black folk claiming this means your "LITERALLY GENOCIDED"
t.
>anybody who mentions the plain fact of mesoamerican and even incan civilization eclipsing and surpassing monkey pigskin nordoids is a mexican
seethe more. You will never have an ethnostate. You will never reproduce.
i hope you fricking die
No woman will EVER find you attractive. There are trannies who have had sex with more women then you. White women literally prefer Black folk over the thought of having your putrid, hateful, failure genes. Your ONLY escape, is to muse on what your ancestors did (who were sub saharan tier pre mediterranean contact) so you can LARP as them, meanwhile NEVER accomplishing anything of note other then being angry on the internet and wasting away. I almost pity you
They were just as intelligent as germanics and everyone else, building things doesn't make a population smarter than others.
You still haven't explained the "anyone who insults native americans must be a nordoid or muttmerican that thinks he's a nordoid" connection
No need, because it's always amerimutts LARPing as le Aryans (who were shit tier at building civilization until they destroyed Rome, and stole everything the ancients did and then started larping they were the master race)
You do know the medposters here are all hispanics and nafris right
Pretty much
kys
Seethe homosexual
Do you just ignore the consequences of Southern Italy, outside of Rome itself, being worthless garbage until integrated into the Republic, and beyond that ignore the known and implied demographic patterns from Julius Caesar onwards, patterns which were exacerbated by the Byzantine Greeks doing to Italy what Caesar did to Gaul, right after fighting over Libya slaughtered much of that population as well, AND THEN the massive slave raids of the Muslims and settlement of the same?
Do you seriously fricking ignore this? Much of the Spain isn't entirely white either, to the point that they obsessed over "blue bloods", people pale enough to see veins under the skin and Portugal is just plain trash.
The Mediterranean already had a semitic bend to it, Islam wiped out nearly everything else, with the only exception being certain Berber tribes which kept purchased slaves as wives more often than simply killing them.
The patrician bloodlines from the founding of Rome are extinct in the male line and have been for millennia, most are extinct in the female lines as well. Thing is? Same is true for the Plebeians of that era. Date it in the time of Augustus and guess what?
Same fricking thing.
>Southern Italy, outside of Rome itself, being worthless garbage until integrated into the Republic
What is magna graecia?
>ignore the known and implied demographic patterns from Julius Caesar onwards
I assume this is still referred to southern Italy, the ethnogenesis of southern Italians is somewhere in the archaic age according to genetic study leak
Rest seems the usual incoherent amerimutt rambling
Southern Italy wasn't garbage for most of it's history actually. It's been downhill from the 19th century and now it's just a regular country place.
mutt cope. Southern Italy is pure MED, closest to the other mediterranean trade networks, part of magna Graecia, has the most soulful culture and cuisine. I'd take Naples and Sicily any day over Milan
I havent read the other replies and I dont care nor am I French but I think the French basedjak complaining about food of all things compared to the brain mush arguments of all the other basedjaks states something about the history of France/French people.
They are, in my opinion, one of the few people in Europe whose contributions and gains are equal if not slightly superior to their losses and missteps.
>brain mush arguments
Rereading what I said I think brain liquefying would be more accurate to what I intended. Reading the basedjaks is what turns your brain to mush, the words are what does it.
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>When did italian culture started to be seen centered around gangsters, crime and hair grease?
Probably sometime around the 8the century BC if Roman history is anything to go by.
No hair grease though, as far as I know.
they bathed in olive oil.
>they bathed in olive oil.
I think you might be confusing italo-american and italian. In Italy people like that are considered the bottom of the social ladder.
Are north and south Italians different species
When ignorant americans started
>let me tell you about your country
fricking die.
why are you so proud of the Greeks?
mutt
Why Italians are Black folk?
American have a distorted view of Italians, caused by their Italo-Americans and Hollywood
In the 70s Italy had a bigger economy than the UK, many people linked Italy to Milan Fashion Week or Ferrari or many other proper first world things
Italians are more r-selected than europeans
For a larger army and superior firepower on Ethiopia's behalf, those death counts look awfully even
How did Italians go from Julius Cesar, to Benito Mussolini to that?
Those are not Italians, those are t*rroni
more italian than (you)
Because Sicilians will do anything to avoid an honest day's work.
what?
Look at Italy
What the hell is going on in Lithuania
They live in Lithuania. They've also got the worst suicide rates in the world.
Nevada represent
>states with the highest white populations have the lowest homicide rates
weird
why isn't California much worse than the other states since it's non-white immigrant paradise and libtardism galore?
t. inferiority complexed mutt born from med father and (as always) germanic mother
life lesson: don't marry foreigners
>feels offended
>just makes some shit up
the frick is this reddit shit
always was besides the hair grease part
Daily reminder that because Ireland is sandwhiched between the two Anglophone nations we get judged by Ameriburger culture and the world has an image of us that bears the same relation to reality as the American image of Italians.
Nobody even thinks of Ireland save for LARPing amerimutts
Which land?
The fact that people regularly make anti-Irish bait threads on this board (and others on this board) is proof that's not true. Just because not everyone thinks about it doesn't mean nobody does. A surprising number of people do, for whatever reason. Ireland is a country which tends to be calumniated or idealised by people with no connection to it for peculiar reasons. Believe me friend, I hate the capital city of Ireland, and I'm embarrassed on my country's behalf by the (I expect inevitably disappointed) tourists who come here for whatever reason, but they do come here, and there must be a reason. Whether or not it's a good one is irrelevant.
>The fact that people regularly make anti-Irish bait threads on this board (and others on this board) is proof that's not true.
It's just a bunch of paddies making threads to draw attention to themselves
No it's not, unless perhaps they're Ulster Unionists and you consider them Paddies. Check out /misc/ then and observe the regular anti-Irish threads posted under union jack flags among others. The fact that you use the word Paddy suggests you are't neutral in the whole matter. If you truly don't care about people you don't use a pejorative term to casually express the fact that your don't care.
Anyway I'm talking less about Ireland and more about the horrible fact that Americans actually judge peoples by their own corrupted diaspora communities and via their pop culture make the whole world judge people by the same.
Irish have SOVL, something the eternal anglo lacks and will always hate Ireland for. They stayed Catholic, kept drinking and enjoying life, while degenerate ugly boring British protestants had a stick up their ass. No matter what anglo mutts threw at them, the Gallic man endured. Ireland is based as far as I'm concerned.
Only Northern Ireland is semi-based
People from outside Europe who idealise Germany and Germanic cultures in general are autists, but people from outside Ireland who idealise Ulster Unionists are 10000x more neurotic even than them.
keep seething
>people outside Europe who idealise Germany and Germanic cultures
The only people who do this are Texans, and those people are fricking moronic
If the Irish had soul they'd still be speaking Irish wouldn't they
An attitude to pain reflects a more fundamental part of one's being even than language and the Irish are distinguished from the English in this and in most equivalent points of anthropological data. Language is an important part of culture, but those who say it is necessarily the only point of separation and difference are nationalities whose nationalism arose in the 19th century out of western-sponsored ethnic nationalist endeavours designed to sabotage rival eastern empires. I seriously doubt whether most central and eastern Europeans would show as consistently different cultural distinctions as between the English and Irish as recorded by the anthropological data.
You're welcome to make fun of the modern Irish btw, just down take the modern state of the country as an indictment of the history of its people.
>I seriously doubt whether most central and eastern Europeans would show as consistently different cultural distinctions as between the English and Irish as recorded by the anthropological data.
They have their own languages that pretty much the entire population is fluent in, why would they about petty distinctions like that?
Italian Americans are less PC and blunter than most. In Italian American families when you hear them talk, they say many things that other families would be shocked at. They're much more nationalistic than the other Catholics in the USA and much more against the PC culture, especially working class Italian Americans. If you don't believe me, head over to Staten Island or Bay Ridge or Bensonhurst. Go to Italian American clubs and the churches they frequent.
staten island is a literal shithole and had the world's biggest landfill until the 90s. it was visible from the ISS. there's a reason kids from there all seem to have birth defects.
Staten Island is one of the best places to live in NY. You're not in some PC SJW zone, not in the ghetto, and you're not in some farm in the middle of nowhere either.
cope. i was born there. it's a shithole.
and good luck finding a b***h without heroin needles
Sicilians are based. Change my mind.
Why would I want to? Have you ever read about Agathocles of Syracuse?
The moment muttsharts start projecting their bias onto others
Idk maybe the 14th century
It never did. Dumbass. America turns everyone into a fricking degenerate moron
America is LITERALLY the most cucked and Black personish place in the world. How do Americans even cope with having a population so moronic that it's all their known for? Couldnt be me
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Time to dilate, anon
See
fricking die.
start drinking bleach
When hair grease was invented.