When did italian culture started to be seen centered around gangsters, crime and hair grease?

When did italian culture started to be seen centered around gangsters, crime and hair grease?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Thats just italo americans

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The better question is when did italian culture got to be centered around pizza and pasta ?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's what you get when you go to America. You'll melt and all that is left of your spirit is the slag. That is what you are reduced to. The simplest slag consisting of mere shadows of anything real. This is what you are, mutt.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >This is what you are, mutt
          kek 90% of shitalians wouldnt pass as white over here.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Aren't you the brownest country in the west?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They are still whiter than you

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >heh nornal men wouldn't pass as trannies!
            Why would anyone want to look like a troony? Likewise, why would anyone want to be white? whites are the cuckedest race in history

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Trannies make up .005% of US population. And as an American I can confirm that people would probably assume many Italians are latinos until hearing their name. It's not just the olive skin but the kinky black hair. Some Italian: look as white as anyone however.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Sicilians are semitic not mexican looking

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >implying Americans can tell what the difference is by appearance
            Most Americans just assume brown people who don't look Indian or visibly Islamic are Latino. That's how it is in this country. In New York or Los Angeles which have more ethnic diversity people have more nuanced perspectives.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Sicilians are semitic
            lol no

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >the kinky black hair
            >italians
            This is why people call you mutts you know.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Italians who immigrated to the USA are mostly terroni

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Terroni are majority brown haired and wavy haired though. Guys like your pic would pass a 70s reenactor in southern Italy.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They all look like the Nazi Aryan Ideal compared to amerisharts

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            These replies show that med posters really are spics.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Wah wah wah homosexual

          Sorry we don't feel the need to say pasta Vespucci when we fellate each other in the street as greeting between acquaintances you diseased fricks

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Lol

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        About the same time french culture became about frogs and baguettes, ir german culture about wurstels and beer, or burgers with burgers and soda.
        Culinary stereotypes are the lowest level interaction between friendly cultures, so of course they're gonna be the first thing people think of.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why is this board so obsessed over Italians?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >why is a history board obsessed with one of, if not the most historied land on earth?
      Gee anon, I don't know.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        and yet shitalians aren't known for anything but food and the world's most obnoxious accent

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody seethes as much as you're doing because of food and accents anon.
          They clearly have more than that to their credit and you're living proof.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          mfw leo da vinci
          mfw gerolamo cardano
          mfw michelangelo
          mfw caravaggio
          mfw machiavelli
          mfw dante

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Literally who
            >muh artists

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >literally who
            really says a lot about american education

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            None of them identified as Italian

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They did moron

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >yet they were all born in italy and spoke italian

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They did moron

            He's trying to be clever over semantics because they would have all identified as whatever state they were under at the time, Dante being a Florentine, for example. The modern Italian language follows this same logic, as it is based on Florentine while other regions spoke another Italian variant derived directly from Latin.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >they would have all identified as whatever state they were under at the time
            Would they? Plebs might have considered themselves part of this or that polity, but italian intellectuals considered themselves one single community from the Alps to Sicily. They all moved from one city and court to the next with no regard for politics, they all considered themselves part of the same artistic scene, etc.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You don't identify as a homosexual either and yet here we are

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >world's most obnoxious accent
          Wtf are you talking about??
          They have the most beautiful language in the world

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >lets shitalians live in his head rent free
          Absolute state of (You)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A tremendous wave of Nordicists, unironic neo (mutt) Nazis, and hispanics who LARP as white immigrated from /misc/, whereupon faced with the reality of the Mediterranean origins of civilization in Europe devolve into WE WUZZING and shitting up the board with their meme 19th century.racial theories. Since Italians and Greeks represent a hurdle which they cannot explain away when they look at their own ancestors they reeee into oblivion.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Since Italians and Greeks represent a hurdle which they cannot explain away when they look at their own ancestors they reeee into oblivion.
        This

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You don't know what you're talking about, as usual. hispanics perform mental gymnastics to LARP as Romans. They wouldn't be shitting on Italians.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Rich inbred hispanics from the countries elite (who are balding by 21) like to LARP as white and have an inherent hatred for anything darker then them as infeiror. They then come to IQfy and LARP as 'hello fellow white man's to Europeans when they're basically a shitty disregarded copy of actual Europeans, like muttmericans. They try to join the 'white' racialist cool kids on IQfy by acting racist and LARPing as a Europeans.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Is that why every thread insulting native americans as stone age savages here has a bunch of med posters turn up that invariably start shitposting about 'nordoids'? Hmmm, what ethnic group simultaneously identifies with both native americans and a Mediterranean nation?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >homosexuals insult native Americans as savage
            >Point out their ancestors were even more moronic savages and only advanced due to contact with med civilizations
            >this makes muttmericans and Nordoids seethe so much they invent all sorts of cope as pilpul so you do not point out that obvious fact
            Not everyone has such low self esteem that they have to 'MY ANCESTOR' to feel validated. One can appreciate other cultures and point out facts without having to pertain to said cultures. It just makes nordicists seethe.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            out their ancestors were even more moronic savages and only advanced due to contact with med civilizations
            Let's accept this worldview. How do you explain away the fact that Northern Europeans advanced due to contact with med civilisations (and advanced well beyond their wildest imaginations at that), whilst Native Americans after contact with med civilisations just turned into cartel-led shitholes?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Easy my Nordoid friend. Nords came in contact with Rome maybe a hundred years BC at most. When Romans left Brtian, after occupation for 300, years, it remained a shithole. Germanic countries were still very backwards compared to Italy and Greece some 500 years after Roman contact. First contact of native Americans with Europeans was 500 years ago give or take. And we have south Americans going to university, and engineers and inventors coming out (which immediately get poached thanks to brain drain by other powers like Britain and America). Nords, 500 years after Roman contact still lived in shitholes and didn't really advance culturally. Hell, Saxon Britain was still pretty much shit even 800 AD. Explain the difference between gang cartels after European contact and pagan raiding parties and mercenaries which existed well after hundreds upon hundreds of years after med contact. Get off /misc/ and actually fricking study history you moron

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            pink subhuman g*rmshits btfo yet again

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Nigel will have no rebuttal to this

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >natives are actually intelligent because they stack rock
            get a load of this moron

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Seethe, Nigel. Your civilizational development is as slow as your birthrates.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >civilizational development
            >stacking rocks
            how long did it take them to begin creating a language again after establishing massive calorie surpluses thanks to one of the most food rich areas of the planet

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >we-we had it tougher!
            Lmao at the cope. Mesoamericans had indoor plumbing, art, architecture and we're creating fricking calendars while the entirety of northern Europe could do nothing but frick goats, and ooga booga.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            please die, stupid beaner

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You will die and never reproduce, Nordoid pigskin incel. Your ancestors were monkeys who stole everything but better people's. Black folk frick your women and still they won't frick you. Seethe

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Juan will outbreed you in one generation
            Meanwhile all you can do is LARP as greater people then you and cry that your women frick Black folk claiming this means your "LITERALLY GENOCIDED"

            Dilate

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Have sex. Oh wait, you can't

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Lmao at the cope. Mesoamericans had indoor plumbing, art, architecture and we're creating fricking calendars while the entirety of northern Europe could do nothing but frick goats, and ooga booga.
            Sheeeit Pablo, what the frick happened? How did you lot fall so far from grace? Some hyper-advanced alien creatures must have beamed down and btfo your futuristic civilisation.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Nordoid considers indoor plumbing and architecture as super advanced
            Checks out

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            kys

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Juan will outbreed you in one generation
            Meanwhile all you can do is LARP as greater people then you and cry that your women frick Black folk claiming this means your "LITERALLY GENOCIDED"

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            t.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >anybody who mentions the plain fact of mesoamerican and even incan civilization eclipsing and surpassing monkey pigskin nordoids is a mexican
            seethe more. You will never have an ethnostate. You will never reproduce.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            i hope you fricking die

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            No woman will EVER find you attractive. There are trannies who have had sex with more women then you. White women literally prefer Black folk over the thought of having your putrid, hateful, failure genes. Your ONLY escape, is to muse on what your ancestors did (who were sub saharan tier pre mediterranean contact) so you can LARP as them, meanwhile NEVER accomplishing anything of note other then being angry on the internet and wasting away. I almost pity you

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They were just as intelligent as germanics and everyone else, building things doesn't make a population smarter than others.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You still haven't explained the "anyone who insults native americans must be a nordoid or muttmerican that thinks he's a nordoid" connection

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            No need, because it's always amerimutts LARPing as le Aryans (who were shit tier at building civilization until they destroyed Rome, and stole everything the ancients did and then started larping they were the master race)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You do know the medposters here are all hispanics and nafris right

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty much

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        kys

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Seethe homosexual

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Do you just ignore the consequences of Southern Italy, outside of Rome itself, being worthless garbage until integrated into the Republic, and beyond that ignore the known and implied demographic patterns from Julius Caesar onwards, patterns which were exacerbated by the Byzantine Greeks doing to Italy what Caesar did to Gaul, right after fighting over Libya slaughtered much of that population as well, AND THEN the massive slave raids of the Muslims and settlement of the same?

        Do you seriously fricking ignore this? Much of the Spain isn't entirely white either, to the point that they obsessed over "blue bloods", people pale enough to see veins under the skin and Portugal is just plain trash.

        The Mediterranean already had a semitic bend to it, Islam wiped out nearly everything else, with the only exception being certain Berber tribes which kept purchased slaves as wives more often than simply killing them.

        The patrician bloodlines from the founding of Rome are extinct in the male line and have been for millennia, most are extinct in the female lines as well. Thing is? Same is true for the Plebeians of that era. Date it in the time of Augustus and guess what?

        Same fricking thing.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Southern Italy, outside of Rome itself, being worthless garbage until integrated into the Republic
          What is magna graecia?
          >ignore the known and implied demographic patterns from Julius Caesar onwards
          I assume this is still referred to southern Italy, the ethnogenesis of southern Italians is somewhere in the archaic age according to genetic study leak
          Rest seems the usual incoherent amerimutt rambling

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Southern Italy wasn't garbage for most of it's history actually. It's been downhill from the 19th century and now it's just a regular country place.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          mutt cope. Southern Italy is pure MED, closest to the other mediterranean trade networks, part of magna Graecia, has the most soulful culture and cuisine. I'd take Naples and Sicily any day over Milan

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I havent read the other replies and I dont care nor am I French but I think the French basedjak complaining about food of all things compared to the brain mush arguments of all the other basedjaks states something about the history of France/French people.
        They are, in my opinion, one of the few people in Europe whose contributions and gains are equal if not slightly superior to their losses and missteps.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >brain mush arguments
          Rereading what I said I think brain liquefying would be more accurate to what I intended. Reading the basedjaks is what turns your brain to mush, the words are what does it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

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  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >When did italian culture started to be seen centered around gangsters, crime and hair grease?
    Probably sometime around the 8the century BC if Roman history is anything to go by.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No hair grease though, as far as I know.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        they bathed in olive oil.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >they bathed in olive oil.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I think you might be confusing italo-american and italian. In Italy people like that are considered the bottom of the social ladder.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Are north and south Italians different species

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    When ignorant americans started
    >let me tell you about your country

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    fricking die.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      A tremendous wave of Nordicists, unironic neo (mutt) Nazis, and hispanics who LARP as white immigrated from /misc/, whereupon faced with the reality of the Mediterranean origins of civilization in Europe devolve into WE WUZZING and shitting up the board with their meme 19th century.racial theories. Since Italians and Greeks represent a hurdle which they cannot explain away when they look at their own ancestors they reeee into oblivion.

      why are you so proud of the Greeks?

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    mutt

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why Italians are Black folk?

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    American have a distorted view of Italians, caused by their Italo-Americans and Hollywood

    In the 70s Italy had a bigger economy than the UK, many people linked Italy to Milan Fashion Week or Ferrari or many other proper first world things

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Italians are more r-selected than europeans

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      For a larger army and superior firepower on Ethiopia's behalf, those death counts look awfully even

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How did Italians go from Julius Cesar, to Benito Mussolini to that?

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Those are not Italians, those are t*rroni

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      more italian than (you)

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because Sicilians will do anything to avoid an honest day's work.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    what?
    Look at Italy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What the hell is going on in Lithuania

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They live in Lithuania. They've also got the worst suicide rates in the world.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nevada represent

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >states with the highest white populations have the lowest homicide rates
      weird

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        why isn't California much worse than the other states since it's non-white immigrant paradise and libtardism galore?

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    t. inferiority complexed mutt born from med father and (as always) germanic mother

    life lesson: don't marry foreigners

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >feels offended
      >just makes some shit up
      the frick is this reddit shit

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    always was besides the hair grease part

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Daily reminder that because Ireland is sandwhiched between the two Anglophone nations we get judged by Ameriburger culture and the world has an image of us that bears the same relation to reality as the American image of Italians.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody even thinks of Ireland save for LARPing amerimutts

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Which land?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The fact that people regularly make anti-Irish bait threads on this board (and others on this board) is proof that's not true. Just because not everyone thinks about it doesn't mean nobody does. A surprising number of people do, for whatever reason. Ireland is a country which tends to be calumniated or idealised by people with no connection to it for peculiar reasons. Believe me friend, I hate the capital city of Ireland, and I'm embarrassed on my country's behalf by the (I expect inevitably disappointed) tourists who come here for whatever reason, but they do come here, and there must be a reason. Whether or not it's a good one is irrelevant.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >The fact that people regularly make anti-Irish bait threads on this board (and others on this board) is proof that's not true.
          It's just a bunch of paddies making threads to draw attention to themselves

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            No it's not, unless perhaps they're Ulster Unionists and you consider them Paddies. Check out /misc/ then and observe the regular anti-Irish threads posted under union jack flags among others. The fact that you use the word Paddy suggests you are't neutral in the whole matter. If you truly don't care about people you don't use a pejorative term to casually express the fact that your don't care.

            Anyway I'm talking less about Ireland and more about the horrible fact that Americans actually judge peoples by their own corrupted diaspora communities and via their pop culture make the whole world judge people by the same.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Irish have SOVL, something the eternal anglo lacks and will always hate Ireland for. They stayed Catholic, kept drinking and enjoying life, while degenerate ugly boring British protestants had a stick up their ass. No matter what anglo mutts threw at them, the Gallic man endured. Ireland is based as far as I'm concerned.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Only Northern Ireland is semi-based

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            People from outside Europe who idealise Germany and Germanic cultures in general are autists, but people from outside Ireland who idealise Ulster Unionists are 10000x more neurotic even than them.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            keep seething

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >people outside Europe who idealise Germany and Germanic cultures

            The only people who do this are Texans, and those people are fricking moronic

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            If the Irish had soul they'd still be speaking Irish wouldn't they

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            An attitude to pain reflects a more fundamental part of one's being even than language and the Irish are distinguished from the English in this and in most equivalent points of anthropological data. Language is an important part of culture, but those who say it is necessarily the only point of separation and difference are nationalities whose nationalism arose in the 19th century out of western-sponsored ethnic nationalist endeavours designed to sabotage rival eastern empires. I seriously doubt whether most central and eastern Europeans would show as consistently different cultural distinctions as between the English and Irish as recorded by the anthropological data.

            You're welcome to make fun of the modern Irish btw, just down take the modern state of the country as an indictment of the history of its people.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >I seriously doubt whether most central and eastern Europeans would show as consistently different cultural distinctions as between the English and Irish as recorded by the anthropological data.
            They have their own languages that pretty much the entire population is fluent in, why would they about petty distinctions like that?

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Italian Americans are less PC and blunter than most. In Italian American families when you hear them talk, they say many things that other families would be shocked at. They're much more nationalistic than the other Catholics in the USA and much more against the PC culture, especially working class Italian Americans. If you don't believe me, head over to Staten Island or Bay Ridge or Bensonhurst. Go to Italian American clubs and the churches they frequent.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      staten island is a literal shithole and had the world's biggest landfill until the 90s. it was visible from the ISS. there's a reason kids from there all seem to have birth defects.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Staten Island is one of the best places to live in NY. You're not in some PC SJW zone, not in the ghetto, and you're not in some farm in the middle of nowhere either.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          cope. i was born there. it's a shithole.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          and good luck finding a b***h without heroin needles

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Sicilians are based. Change my mind.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why would I want to? Have you ever read about Agathocles of Syracuse?

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The moment muttsharts start projecting their bias onto others

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Idk maybe the 14th century

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It never did. Dumbass. America turns everyone into a fricking degenerate moron

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    America is LITERALLY the most cucked and Black personish place in the world. How do Americans even cope with having a population so moronic that it's all their known for? Couldnt be me

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

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    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Time to dilate, anon

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      See

      Time to dilate, anon

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    fricking die.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    start drinking bleach

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    When hair grease was invented.

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