When will we have designer babies?
Do you find it unethical to alter genetic coding in humans? And removing illnesses and such before they're born?
Like you could have no risk of cancer all your life?
Would you be fine with that? Or do you find it to alter with the natural flow of life?
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fun fact moron: modernity and globalized industrialization have done more damage to the human body than anything else. there's no need to make affronts to God in test tubes.
>god
no such thing
If the Elites practice shit like human sacrifice and numerology, along with mysticism in general, then there is SOMETHING higher than us.
but i thought the elites were evil and everything they did was wrong
You know there are evil deities right?
ohhh like that little invisible man in cartoons with horns and goat hoofs who sits on your shoulder and tells you to poop in the slushie machine
based christgay annihilator
I'm guessing you watch alot of cartoons. I'm telling your mom you are on her phone.
Right after I frick her.
Ritualism doesn't imply there is a higher power. Read some Durkheim.
*Tips fedora*
>no argument, resorts to decade-old memes
more predictable than a morning shit
Back to /r/atheism
Back to church, gramps
all religious people are child groomers
no exceptions
enjoy your Yamaka
This. Gods and worship are for the elites only.
Just like child fricking.
I will become my fursona and you're not going to stop me.
there will be no more furries when designer babies hit as mental illnesses will be cured.
Based
That's cool and all, but I don't want to get hit by hairloss and die slowly from alzheimer's slowly deteriorates my mind.
Flaws shape people. A group of people without flaws is a race of the dead.
wow I am pro gene-code now
You're totally right
*Rapes
>Flaws shape people
but does not make people happy
can we fix Black folk with gene editing ?
shitskins that are smarter and no longer prone to crime
sign them the frick up
I'm excited to see whether the future is carried by designer slaves or AGI.
As soon as we have the technology, it's unethical not to use it.
realistically there's going to be a lot more white babies in the world, especially in Korea and shit
get rid of autism, schizophrenia, anxious/depression/omega-incel psychics, this is the worst thing that makes life unbearable
give everyone a 10/10 appearance and health
just make all new children as 10/10 alpha chad sanguine extroverts sportsman scientists 160+ IQ
then use them to harvest everyone else's livers for sale on the interstellar organ trade?
World in which there are no more loser incels, shy depressive anxious autistic omega incels. All people are ALPHA GIGACHADS AND GIGASTACYS, damn charismatic, energetic, powerful, happy, beautiful, sexy
>he doesnt get the reference
you understand what I am talking about
>letting morons design their own moron sprogs
just make everyone produce white kids
world peace in 40 years tops
That worked so well for europe
first blood
>white baby on a DNA editing magazine cover that mentions IQ
no way this would fly today. Had to look it up, it's an issue from 2015. What a difference 7 years makes
sorry to make this /misc/ related, I hate pol but some things are hard to ignore
these are the "people" against designer babies
>designer babies are all white 6'6" 150+ IQ gigachads
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>When will we have designer babies?
We should have had them already. I'm 110% Tedpilled and would love nothing more than to reduce the global population by 99% and drop us back to the stone age but if we're going to dive headfirst into some technological hellscape, we should at least have the balls to go all the way. As it is, we're holding back for "ethical reasons" and getting the worst of both worlds.
That said, I guarantee that there are geneticists all over the world going as hard as they possibly can trying to perfect this technology. There's no way world governments and elites are sleeping on the possibility of engineering super soldiers, perfect subservient slaves, or just being able to ensure that their offspring will be immune to cancer and disease.
>we're holding back for "ethical reasons"
if you think we're actually doing this while China openly admits to having no such ethical concerns, well, keep voting and thinking it matters I guess.
Try reading the entire post before you respond next time, ok?
>Try
anon please...
Both my kids were selected from all the other cultured embryos based on PGS testing so they have certain features and no genetic predisposition to any known disease.
And it wasn't even expensive, less than 200k for the entire process.
I'm not sure what else to tell you, you're not up to date.
Screening for the best option from a selection of natural embryos is a long way from actively editing genes in humans.
You can just make new embryos until you land on the ones you want.
You're still working within a set of genetic parameters. A white couple is never going to naturally produce an embryo for a child that looks black.
You have to look at the technology we know we have that's used to edit genes in plants, bacteria, viruses, and consider it being applied to humans. It's now very easy to modify seeds to grow plants that are resistant to herbicides. Do you think governments might be interested in the potential for editing human genes to make people who are resistant to common chemical warfare agents? Animal breeders pay a lot of money to get champion race horses or show dogs to come stud for them. I could very easily see a future where star athletes patent their genes and sell them as treatments for children.
>Give your child the Michael Jordan gene therapy and give him the edge he needs to compete as a professional athlete!
There's no way people aren't trying this shit as we speak, they're just keeping it quiet because of the potential public backlash. Eventually it's either going to become more accepted or it's going to be perfected behind the scenes and superhumans will start popping up and the ethics will be set aside when the situation becomes
>accept this technology or be replaced by it; natural humans are now objectively inferior in every measurable metric
>There's no way people aren't trying this shit as we speak, they're just keeping it quiet because of the potential public backlash. Eventually it's either going to become more accepted or it's going to be perfected behind the scenes and superhumans will start popping up and the ethics will be set aside when the situation becomes
this technology or be replaced by it; natural humans are now objectively inferior in every measurable metric
meanwhile back in reality there are no supermen, and actual men are becoming more feminine and weak as time goes on.
the people in charge absolutely will not create a race of supers. they'll use the tech to enrich only themselves and create a race of perfect compliant consumer cattle of everyone else.
>meanwhile back in reality there are no supermen,
The technology is still pretty new, especially considering human growth cycles. It takes a lot longer to see the results of trial and error over the course of a few generations of humans than it does for a few generations of wheat. Obviously, the supermen are going to be the children of the elites but you can't keep technology under lock and key forever and sooner or later, even if they try as hard as they can to keep is to themselves, there will be black market geneticists offering to upgrade your kids for the right price.
>and actual men are becoming more feminine and weak as time goes on
All the more reason to want to be able to tweak your son's genes to make him resistant to pollution or just amp up his natural testosterone production to offset his unavoidable exposure to plastics and synthetic estrogens.
the point is that this technology will never be made public for the benefit of all. you will remain weak with dysgenic sons and the people who rule you now will become increasingly more powerful forever. the genetic power gap will make the modern wealth gap look fair by comparison.
>You can just make new embryos
anon...
that's literally the technology they used in gattaca
In the scope of a few generations it's pretty much the same thing
200k USD?
Yes.
>designer babies
that's not the problem.
"High IQ" will just be regular IQ while all the people that don't pay the premium will get their child's brain downgraded to just above 70
designer babies is a modern day euphemism for eugenics
a great way to piss off any bugmen discussing gene editing is to point out that billions of people will happily jump at the opportunity to make their children white
The problem with designer babies is that people have moronic ideas of what an ideal / perfect baby has
>LET'S AUGMENT OUR BOYS SO THAT THEY ALL GROW UP TO HAVE 10 INCH WEENERS
>10 inch weener generation has performance issues, staying erect is difficult and it's too painful for women
the set of ideal qualities varies a bit from person to person, but it's not a large pool of qualities. we also have a very good idea of what's NOT desirable, and as long as those are all filtered out, things will work out just fine.
alpha chad psyche, a lot of serotonin and dopamine and adrenaline, does not experience anxiety and depression, the best and charismatic dominant in any social interactions, 10/10 gigachad appearance - most beatiful and sexual. muscular, slim, tall. all this guarantees a better life more than money
and what happens when all men are like this, competing with each other?
everyone is happy
or the worst, buggy instances will be eliminated
It'll be a exponentially increasing arms race. Eventually, the 8ft tall elites will lord over us with their superior inherent qualities and stranglehold of resources. There will be busy work and pod rental living for the rest of us to suppress social consciousness and rioting, but they'll still claim we're all middle-class.
>Or do you find it to alter with the natural flow of life?
Yes, and this is a good thing.
frick that, I'm autistic and would hate to be a neurotypical
autism - disability in social interactions, lifelong depression, anxiety and lack of emotion
Autism evolved because it made people better in highly organized society. It's not a disorder except in heavily africanized american society and latin spheres where gregariousness, spontaneity, and "passion" are considered virtues and people without them are treated like they're evil.
There's a reason autism rates are higher wherever you find germanic or east asian DNA. It's not a disorder any more than being black in a northern region is. Imagine telling a black man his skin is a genetic illness when really he just needs to go somewhere with more sun.
I think adding AI to human intelligence will be a great step forward for humanity.
Morality and issues aside. What would be more ideal?
Nanomachines inside your body or genetically altered humans?
I feel like you can only go so far as humans while have machines in your body get information from databases and fix up your body on the fly which would work wonders, that said if your body is shit to begin that's another story.
Genetic engineering should only be used to create cat girls for domestic ownership.
Consider
>Eugenics: BAD!
>Scigenics™: GOOD!
>And removing illnesses and such before they're born?
Remove mental illness like lgbtq
Of course, why would you subject your kid to cancer, low IQ, etc if you could easily avoid it?
Just because something is "natural" doesn't mean it's morally correct. Nothing is natural with medicine. If there were a pill that would make me still have the body & health of a 25 year old while living to 200 I'd take it in a heartbeat.
>Never watched GATTACA in class
Smh