Sacred and the Profane, then move to The Myth of Eternal Return, and finish it off with Patterns in Comparative Religion. And never read Girard, ignore that slob people use to discredit Eliade.
>Nae Ionescu >Nae Ionescu was a Romanian philosopher, logician, mathematician, professor, and journalist. Near the end of his career, he became known for his antisemitism and devotion to far right politics, in the years leading up to World War II.
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>Nae Ionescu >Nae Ionescu was a Romanian philosopher, logician, mathematician, professor, and journalist. Near the end of his career, he became known for his antisemitism and devotion to far right politics, in the years leading up to World War II.
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Please for the love of everything Sacred you fricking brainlets read shit without attempting to filter it through your puny problematic/acceptable moronic post-christian eurocentric value-systems.
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>uses “eurocentric” as an insult
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you were dropped as a child.
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>in the 60s "cozy job" was to be an engineer >in the 70s "cozy job" was to be an artist >in the 80s "cozy job" was to be a doctor >in the 90s "cozy job" was to work at the UN >in the 00s "cozy job" was to be a programmer >in the 10s "cozy job" was to be an LGBT teacher worshiping immigrants and cartels >today "cozy job" is to be a bureaucrat (a.k.a. tenured politician) in Europe, shitposting on taxpayer's money and not questioning what you are told to do
Didn’t Eliade get considerably less right-leaning as time went on
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The opinions of people don’t change or evolve, just their conditions. That is to say, he got buck broken by the surrounding postwar society.
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>The opinions of people don’t change or evolve, just their conditions
t. Marxist bugman
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He just stopped talking about politics, but he did maintain correspondence with Evola, supported de Benoist and GRECE etc. Not unusual in his situation, it was very similar with for instance Georges Dumezil.
Romanian bourgeoisie was threatened by the communist revolution sweeping Europe at the time, it's only obvious that most intellectuals, which were part of it because only the higher classes had access to education, started supporting fascist politics.
They were also invaded by Russia, only a duck would support communism.
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People outside the few major cities lived in atrocious poverty and the political system was corrupt to the bone. Communism had the perfect ground to enter.
Would you read something written by Albert Speer? Inside the Third Reich has weird random shit in it where Speer references the northern lights as if Hitler is being guided by them or another part with Hitler sitting in darkness with the windows open in silence while waiting for the clock to strike the precise time the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact to became official.
Maybe their critiques of democratization were correct in pointing out potential dangers we will find ourselves in (and thereby answering to whatever criticisms they have is an important exercise).
Because you won't be able to make snarky offhanded comments to display an obviously superior intelligence when you actually read something and learn from it.
not particularly neceassary, the tetralogy History of religious ideas is meant more as a collection of his recollections and application of his own previous ideas to almost every religious tradition of the world.
this is an excellent beginner's book... if you manage to read it from start to finish, Eliade is for you... if not,
https://i.imgur.com/AtFiCX6.jpg
Where do I start with Mircea Eliade?
try Culianu (his student... who managed to get assassinated because of his writings! top that!)
I am personally an Evola kind of guy, but I appreciate Eliade's fiction, especially his short novels; if he wasn't so caught up in armchair anthropology, he could have been the next Lovecraft
>who managed to get assassinated because of his writings! top that!)
There is a book out there that discusses his assassination. The thesis is, he was a victim of a conspiracy by the Romanian government, and secret agents came to kill him for his fascist views.
>for his fascist views
if you have any factual references to works in which he mentions his "fascist views", do share them; as far as I know, there were none... as opposed to Eliade who had more "merit" to be targeted for the kind conspiracy you aim for...
otherwise maybe check out his last articles (published after 1989), such as the one about the sin against the Holy Spirit; they were not promoting any view, fascist or not, they were just anti-communist
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>they were just anti-communist
That's considered fascist in today's discourse
That's where I started as well, but the topic is so niche that I really don't think it's remotely necessary to lay foundations for Eliade's work specifically.
It goes without saying that writers like Jung, Campbell and Eliade are more interesting from a philosophical point of view than a scientific one. The "not science" gotcha is the ultimate midwit refutal against what anything that you dislike, it implies that we seek objectivity as the ultimate goal in our lives.
History of religion has broadly speaking two different kinds of audiences, those who seek for approval and those who seek for refutation. it is either Marx's approach or Eliade's approach. But I guess that, like many communists don't care whether or not social divide is a real and global conspiracy, those approaching the history of religion need more than the atoms and molecules of history.
>Marx's approach
you mean purloining the idea of "heaven", and renaming it "transcendental materialism", all the while promoting all kinds of Jesus-killing pornography?
tell me more about the "not science" gotcha, it's like music to my ears and I love copying these replies to STEMfriends I have who are too moronic to realize that their reductionist approach can only work on so many things
this is the impotent ejaculate of an academic who's severed his humanity because it was impossible to reconcile with the constructs of other impotent academics whose shoulder pats and approving glances he yearns for since his dad (rightfully) beat him for being a nerd
Sacred and the Profane, then move to The Myth of Eternal Return, and finish it off with Patterns in Comparative Religion. And never read Girard, ignore that slob people use to discredit Eliade.
>ignore that slob people use to discredit Eliade.
how is Girard used against Eliade?
if you want more precise understanding then Evola and Nae Ionescu should be your on your reading list aswell.
A based Nae Ionescu connoisseur I see. Is he even translated into other languages? Nici in romana nu au mai aparut editii recente.
nimeni nu citeste Nae Ionescu, sinucide-te
>Nae Ionescu
>Nae Ionescu was a Romanian philosopher, logician, mathematician, professor, and journalist. Near the end of his career, he became known for his antisemitism and devotion to far right politics, in the years leading up to World War II.
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Eliade was the same.
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Please for the love of everything Sacred you fricking brainlets read shit without attempting to filter it through your puny problematic/acceptable moronic post-christian eurocentric value-systems.
>uses “eurocentric” as an insult
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you were dropped as a child.
>in the 60s "cozy job" was to be an engineer
>in the 70s "cozy job" was to be an artist
>in the 80s "cozy job" was to be a doctor
>in the 90s "cozy job" was to work at the UN
>in the 00s "cozy job" was to be a programmer
>in the 10s "cozy job" was to be an LGBT teacher worshiping immigrants and cartels
>today "cozy job" is to be a bureaucrat (a.k.a. tenured politician) in Europe, shitposting on taxpayer's money and not questioning what you are told to do
What's the cozy job of 20s?
Executioner
Didn’t Eliade get considerably less right-leaning as time went on
The opinions of people don’t change or evolve, just their conditions. That is to say, he got buck broken by the surrounding postwar society.
>The opinions of people don’t change or evolve, just their conditions
t. Marxist bugman
He just stopped talking about politics, but he did maintain correspondence with Evola, supported de Benoist and GRECE etc. Not unusual in his situation, it was very similar with for instance Georges Dumezil.
/ourguys/
Romanian bourgeoisie was threatened by the communist revolution sweeping Europe at the time, it's only obvious that most intellectuals, which were part of it because only the higher classes had access to education, started supporting fascist politics.
They were also invaded by Russia, only a duck would support communism.
People outside the few major cities lived in atrocious poverty and the political system was corrupt to the bone. Communism had the perfect ground to enter.
Would you read something written by Albert Speer? Inside the Third Reich has weird random shit in it where Speer references the northern lights as if Hitler is being guided by them or another part with Hitler sitting in darkness with the windows open in silence while waiting for the clock to strike the precise time the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact to became official.
to this day i still can't tell if anons who claim evola is a major intellectual figure are joking or serious and i don't know which is worse
If Marx and Foucault are major intellectual figures, Evola is a genius
hes a major intellectual figure if you enjoy eating your own shit
Anyone who is considered an "intellectual figure" in today's world is a refutation of their character.
Maybe their critiques of democratization were correct in pointing out potential dangers we will find ourselves in (and thereby answering to whatever criticisms they have is an important exercise).
You don't.
Why?
Because you won't be able to make snarky offhanded comments to display an obviously superior intelligence when you actually read something and learn from it.
Yes you will
That guy didn't.
Should I go through his history of religious ideas to understand his ideas?
not particularly neceassary, the tetralogy History of religious ideas is meant more as a collection of his recollections and application of his own previous ideas to almost every religious tradition of the world.
this is an excellent beginner's book... if you manage to read it from start to finish, Eliade is for you... if not,
try Culianu (his student... who managed to get assassinated because of his writings! top that!)
I am personally an Evola kind of guy, but I appreciate Eliade's fiction, especially his short novels; if he wasn't so caught up in armchair anthropology, he could have been the next Lovecraft
>who managed to get assassinated because of his writings! top that!)
There is a book out there that discusses his assassination. The thesis is, he was a victim of a conspiracy by the Romanian government, and secret agents came to kill him for his fascist views.
>for his fascist views
if you have any factual references to works in which he mentions his "fascist views", do share them; as far as I know, there were none... as opposed to Eliade who had more "merit" to be targeted for the kind conspiracy you aim for...
otherwise maybe check out his last articles (published after 1989), such as the one about the sin against the Holy Spirit; they were not promoting any view, fascist or not, they were just anti-communist
>they were just anti-communist
That's considered fascist in today's discourse
Check out this book.
thanks for the cheese whiz boy!
That's where I started as well, but the topic is so niche that I really don't think it's remotely necessary to lay foundations for Eliade's work specifically.
Mademoiselle Christine
The Three Graces (title may be different in English)
Who?
The guy that inspired some Fricked Up songs.
With his first book.
Start here.
>that text reducing Eliade to an animist furry worshiping a rock with a hole in it
SAD
It goes without saying that writers like Jung, Campbell and Eliade are more interesting from a philosophical point of view than a scientific one. The "not science" gotcha is the ultimate midwit refutal against what anything that you dislike, it implies that we seek objectivity as the ultimate goal in our lives.
History of religion has broadly speaking two different kinds of audiences, those who seek for approval and those who seek for refutation. it is either Marx's approach or Eliade's approach. But I guess that, like many communists don't care whether or not social divide is a real and global conspiracy, those approaching the history of religion need more than the atoms and molecules of history.
>Marx's approach
you mean purloining the idea of "heaven", and renaming it "transcendental materialism", all the while promoting all kinds of Jesus-killing pornography?
tell me more about the "not science" gotcha, it's like music to my ears and I love copying these replies to STEMfriends I have who are too moronic to realize that their reductionist approach can only work on so many things
this is the impotent ejaculate of an academic who's severed his humanity because it was impossible to reconcile with the constructs of other impotent academics whose shoulder pats and approving glances he yearns for since his dad (rightfully) beat him for being a nerd