Not that Anon, but I also came here to say Cormac McCarthy.
In my case it's that his no punctuation style is a fricking gimmick. It doesn't add anything to his writing, it's not a choice that says anything artistically, it's just being different and daring anyone to give him shit about it.
And it makes his writing hard to read. Also The Road is pretty damn generic once you actually get into it. But if he didn't have such a ballsy, bullshit gimmick, his prose wouldn't especially stand out, and he wouldn't have half the clout he has. So it IS effective marketing at least. Can't stand him though.
Lol I don't know, I started reading his books 3 times and I just couldn't... which doesn't happen to me often. I left Blindness through the half of the book, and I couldn't even finish the first chapter of another one... Sun and Moon something
Tolkien was very creative and put in a ton of work but actually reading LOTR and, to a slightly lesser extent, the Hobbit, puts me to sleep. Maya Angelou is terriblem
Based. I completely agree. Twain is massively overrated and it's a fricking crime that he became the first internationally recognized American writer, rather than Hawthorne or Melville or Emerson.
You can tell Twain is REALLY shit because he didn't like Jane Austen. Disliking Austen is always the sign of a pleb.
This thread made me realize that morons still think that quality has to do with their personal taste.
An author is good or bad independently of wheter someone likes them or not.
A moron on IQfy disliking Dostoyevsky doesn't makes him an "horrendous" writer, nor Colleen Hooves being liked by tiktok makes her a good writer.
This thread is about personal preference, hence the “good author you think is shit” question from the OP. How are you in a literature board and you don’t know how to read?
How is an author considered good? Can it be said that a piece of writing is objectively or intersubjectively good? It seems that people tend to say that an author is good mostly because of his influence rather than because of his writings themselves.
Orwell. Good, brilliant even, but overrated. For a shit one, I'd say. . . But no revered writer is truly shit, are they? They can only be overrated. The best writers, I contend, are the hidden gems. Carlyle, for example. For they disgust the masses; the epitome of becoming.
>Better formatting and so and so
Orwell. Good, brilliant even, but overrated. For a shit one, I'd say. . . But no revered writer is truly shit, are they?
They can only be overrated. The best writers, I contend, are the hidden gems. Carlyle, for example.
They disgust the masses, which is the epitome of becoming.
>Better formatting and so and so
Orwell. Good, brilliant even, but overrated. For a shit one, I'd say. . . But no revered writer is truly shit, are they?
They can only be overrated. The best writers, I contend, are the hidden gems. Carlyle, for example.
They disgust the masses, which is the epitome of becoming.
I only have two authors who I really despise
Thomas Pynchon (before death in 1994) and "Thomas Pynchon" (post 1994)
both suck but the replacement is slightly better
Tolkien, the shut-in autist (sounds familiar?) who thought everyone else was trash even while taking inspiration from them is grossy overstated, but I believe I recognize his value for what it is and was. He was a good man with real vision and his work should be remembered.
If by good you mean selling well with dozens of books, I think Harry Turtledove is fricking awful and always was. The only reason Guns of The South sells well where I'm from is it lets us see General Lee and his buddies kill Yankees with m16s and then feel safely modern about it. What a greasy novelist.
Cormac McCarthy
Why do you think that?
NTA but "rocks fall, everyone dies" is a fricking lazy plotting endgame no matter how purple your prose. Nihilism is always a choice.
Not that Anon, but I also came here to say Cormac McCarthy.
In my case it's that his no punctuation style is a fricking gimmick. It doesn't add anything to his writing, it's not a choice that says anything artistically, it's just being different and daring anyone to give him shit about it.
And it makes his writing hard to read. Also The Road is pretty damn generic once you actually get into it. But if he didn't have such a ballsy, bullshit gimmick, his prose wouldn't especially stand out, and he wouldn't have half the clout he has. So it IS effective marketing at least. Can't stand him though.
Midwit
I agree about it being a gimmick.
It made sense in the Road because the world is chaos and disjointed. You could argue Blood Meridian too. But it's every novel.
It's not a gimmick. Most of his other books aren't even written like Blood meridian.
Read Suttree b***h
Hemingway, Pynchon
Pic unrelated
No, Joyce fricking sucked.
Filtered
Joyce is the favorite author of wine aunts who go to Europe and get their pussies blown out to "find themselves".
Nice fake stereotype.
Nice spray tan, wine aunt.
Donna Tartt
this. i tried reading the secret history and the writing style and prose were so atrocious and horrendous i couldnt finish chapter 1
Orhan Pamuk, Jose Saramago (ahhh, that guy!), Knut Hamsun, Maxim Gorky...
I must stop, or else...
Why Saramago?
Lol I don't know, I started reading his books 3 times and I just couldn't... which doesn't happen to me often. I left Blindness through the half of the book, and I couldn't even finish the first chapter of another one... Sun and Moon something
You should suck dick for money dude cause you are sharting cum all over me
>sharting
Wow, that was very visual.
You should try writting
>would be better than Saramago
That book about death being a woman is literally a redressed neil gaiman novel.
what novel?
Mark Fisher
Dostoyevsky, great ideas, but horrendous writer
Which translation?
Any, problem with his style and prose is far too deep-rooted for translation to change it
Bukowski.
"Good"
Tolkien was very creative and put in a ton of work but actually reading LOTR and, to a slightly lesser extent, the Hobbit, puts me to sleep. Maya Angelou is terriblem
Aldous Huxley had a great idea and wrapped it into the most dull prose I've ever read
Mark Twain - an arrogant ideologue. "Look how dumb these southerners and Christians are, haw haw haw let's all have a good laugh."
That's all his books really are. He represents the worst in American culture.
Based. I completely agree. Twain is massively overrated and it's a fricking crime that he became the first internationally recognized American writer, rather than Hawthorne or Melville or Emerson.
You can tell Twain is REALLY shit because he didn't like Jane Austen. Disliking Austen is always the sign of a pleb.
Emerson was the first internationally recognized American writer, if not Washington or Cooper.
This thread made me realize that morons still think that quality has to do with their personal taste.
An author is good or bad independently of wheter someone likes them or not.
A moron on IQfy disliking Dostoyevsky doesn't makes him an "horrendous" writer, nor Colleen Hooves being liked by tiktok makes her a good writer.
R u gonna suck my dick for money dude?
This thread is about personal preference, hence the “good author you think is shit” question from the OP. How are you in a literature board and you don’t know how to read?
How is an author considered good? Can it be said that a piece of writing is objectively or intersubjectively good? It seems that people tend to say that an author is good mostly because of his influence rather than because of his writings themselves.
Autism.
>An author is good or bad independently of wheter someone likes them or not
No they're not. Personal taste is synonymous with quality.
What if 2 people disagree?
>I hate this author, they're shit
>I love this author, they're great
Where's the issue?
Orwell. Good, brilliant even, but overrated. For a shit one, I'd say. . . But no revered writer is truly shit, are they? They can only be overrated. The best writers, I contend, are the hidden gems. Carlyle, for example. For they disgust the masses; the epitome of becoming.
>Better formatting and so and so
Orwell. Good, brilliant even, but overrated. For a shit one, I'd say. . . But no revered writer is truly shit, are they?
They can only be overrated. The best writers, I contend, are the hidden gems. Carlyle, for example.
They disgust the masses, which is the epitome of becoming.
you can just delete your first post
Jane Austen. Liking Jane Austen is always the sign of a pleb.
Or just being a woman.
Postmodernists in general, are garbage. I hate postmodernist art with all of my existence.
I only have two authors who I really despise
Thomas Pynchon (before death in 1994) and "Thomas Pynchon" (post 1994)
both suck but the replacement is slightly better
timmy turner phenotype
Joyce and Dazai
The occasional pretty sentence doesn't really justify the gimmicky prose or the rather shallow way of thinking
Tolkien, the shut-in autist (sounds familiar?) who thought everyone else was trash even while taking inspiration from them is grossy overstated, but I believe I recognize his value for what it is and was. He was a good man with real vision and his work should be remembered.
If by good you mean selling well with dozens of books, I think Harry Turtledove is fricking awful and always was. The only reason Guns of The South sells well where I'm from is it lets us see General Lee and his buddies kill Yankees with m16s and then feel safely modern about it. What a greasy novelist.
William Faulkner.
camus