Singapore is Confucian. Disneyland under martial law, as it were. It blew my mind when i went, you can get beaten in prison for not picking up dog poop, but everybody is so fricking rich, israeliteel Changi Airport makes Los Angeles look like Somalia, picrel
A healthy state doesn't need a vast police apparatus just to move from day to day.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes it does. Look at Singapore, Rwanda, China, Israel, etc. what do they have in common? Immense prosperity and a police state.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And they hate the police state. Especially when other equal or better places don't have it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But it works. Look at Singapore. Look at Shanghai, or Tel Aviv. Such beautiful places. My country is in ruins, with enormous amounts of suffering in places like Seattle, San Francisco, every city honestly. If we had a Lee Kuan Yew and a PAP we would be such a nice place.
It dieant. Paul kagake basically kills people freely and is distorting Rwanda and LKYs policies are not special at all. Especially when Singapore was well developed for a colony at the time if independence.
>distorting Rwanda
What do you mean? Under him Rwanda went from being the site of a genocide to being an Eastern-European tier country.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Look at Singapore. Look at Shanghai, or Tel Aviv. Such beautiful places.
Only a toddler or an Instagram influencer would determine the worth of a country from how their wealthiest city looks. Which one are you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Eastern-European tier country
mate, Rwanda is like the 6th poorest country in the world, it is a complete shithole
Kagame is trying to sell Kigali as "the cleanest, safest city in Africa" but it's bullshit
2 years ago
Anonymous
Even in that video, there is no trash on the streets. No filth or human feces like in San Francisco. The comments indicate there is no drug problem either. It is a poor place but one which can easily trend upwards. In that respect it already surpasses many communities in Moldova or Bulgaria.
I have faith in Kagame. Rwanda is one of the most prosperous nations in Africa.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>there is no trash on the streets
Idiots like you are so easy to trick. It has no real economy and Rwanda fudges it's data.
I don't even know how western and/or white people fall for his basic as frick shit while they scrutinize other dictators across the world
2 years ago
Anonymous
>there is no trash on the streets
Idiots like you are so easy to trick. It has no real economy and Rwanda fudges it's data.
I don't even know how western and/or white people fall for his basic as frick shit while they scrutinize other dictators across the world
>no real economy
only by western standards of ~~*extraction and export*~~. In that video there were zero beggars and zero stolen goods marketplaces. Compare that to other favelas worldwide that are all run by gangs. Even Hong Kong's walled city was run by triads.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What the hell do they export?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Their 2019 export breakdown
2 years ago
Anonymous
Their 2019 export breakdown
>gold doesn't count, only "value added" products count. >Abu Dabi doesn't have a real economy either then.
It literally takes a generation of educational investment to create the skilled labor pool required to grow the manufacturing and service sectors. You can't hire 6th grade dropouts to build airplanes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>complete shithole >for evidence, here is a video on its "WORST Slum" >not even as bad as some places in Denver I could show you
ngmi
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Singapore
Suppression of all potential dissenting voices to this day, lack of respect for basic human rights, erasure of many native vernacular languages (especially within the Chinese community), bleeding skilled professionals (especially majority Chinese and minority Tamils) and essentially entirely dependent on migrant labor (Indians and Malays from Malaysia, SEAsians, Indians) for every single need. >Rwanda
Military dictatorship, still dirt poor even compared to others in its neighborhood, only recently not perpetually at war, no semblance of freedom of speech. >China
Don't even get me started, one of the most corrupt and disgusting regimes ever to roam the earth. Higher wealth inequality than America despite being "communist." What a joke. >Israel
Built on religious apartheid. That should be reason enough to chuck it out.
I enjoy my secular, human rights ensuring, representative democracy, thanks very much. It's not perfect but it's much better than the alternative.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I wish we had a religious and ethnic apartheid
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I enjoy my secular, human rights ensuring, representative democracy, thanks very much. It's not perfect but it's much better than the alternative.
And yet we have tens of thousands of homeless people and massive drug crises. Did you know 80,000 people died from fentanyl overdoses alone in the USA last year? Singapore solved the issue of drugs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Still has addiction and the reality that Singaporeans can just get their hits abroad . There's also that East Asian "drugs are bad but boozing up till kingdom come is A-Okay!" thing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Singaporeans can just get their hits abroad
Not my problem. If they go to Thailand to score, good for them. No drugs here = no gangs here. Duterte is based, knows how to copy a good idea.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>bleeding skilled professionals
so is California and Taiwan. this is a materialist symptom of PPP adjusted GDP per capita and exchange rates. >only recently not perpetually at war,
so what? as long as they keep winning it's all good. >corrupt and disgusting regimes
the chinese are mostly okay with it. despite western media coverage, democratic agitators outside of hong kong are as much a political fringe as the green or libertarian parties in the usa. china sends thousands of students to us universities each year, very few defectors. re: corruption: it's inevitable, high vs low trust society will always stabilize at an equilibrium that includes corruption. the west like to hide it and pretend graft doesn't exist. china is quite upfront about it, you get used to it, like paying taxes. wealth inequality is also inevitable, the Pareto effect is the real, iterated, consequence of fools getting their money parted. >Apartheid.
Is relatively based or cucked. Is it better or worse than ethnic cleansing or Balkanization? Most chad would've been to just genocide them 60 years ago, solved the problem once and for all. They won the 6 day war, but didn't go all the way. Even though they're in the wrong, stacis love bullies and losers stay foreveralone. Dunno why Iran keeps funding Hezbollah, backing intentional losers. At this point Hezzies are controlled opposition, gangsters in it for the funding like the Provos and Ulsters, not really interested in actually winning lest the Iranian gibs stop flowing. It'll have to be a new group/generation to actually take Israel down.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>as long as they keep winning it's all good.
Wars cost money anon.
>the Chinese are mostly okay with it.
they aren't fine with being forced into their homes due to zero Covid and their economy dying with it.
Many western companies basically ditched China because they got fed up with this shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Wars cost money anon.
sounds like loser talk >zero Covid and their economy dying with it.
that's literally the opposite of corruption, which would be working them to death in unsafe conditions. Chinese oligarchs are literally losing the most by closing their own businesses. And for foreign businesses, why do you think the Chinese have incentive to kowtow to foreign businesses interests? You got it backwards, the Mouse and everybody else kowtows to them. Every foreign owned business that leaves creates an opening for a chinese owned business to take both whatever amount of skilled labor and eventually marketshare. Heck, if I believed in 6D chess, I'd go schizo and claim that's part of the plan.
as for people stuck in their homes, yeah some people are fed up, but the media coverage is pretty disingenuous. like - oh they're delivering food to the elderly people in quarantine? no shit. my grandma here in the US also gets government meals delivered, 365 days a year, literally a nothingburger. that's a fricking solution, not a problem.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I enjoy my secular, human rights ensuring, representative democracy, thanks very much. It's not perfect but it's much better than the alternative.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dilate your pus-filled hole you freak
2 years ago
Anonymous
>still dirt poor even compared to others in its neighborhood
Stopped reading there.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Who the frick would pick Rwanda over Uganda or Kenya or Tanzania?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Higher wealth inequality than America despite being "communist." What a joke.
Im honestly curious to see what it would like if the amerisharts had to try and run a country of 1 billion people
2 years ago
Anonymous
School shootings every 15 minutes. 150 million blacks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You are objectively better off living in Singapore than a "democracy" like Brazil. Democracy isn't everything.
>Suppression of all potential dissenting voices to this day
no different from cancel culture in the west then, for example I am not allowed to openly discuss genetic evidence of differences between races without a mob intimidating my place of work into firing me, mob rule can be just as tyrannical as a despot, democracy does not have as much effect in this regard as you imagine >lack of respect for basic human rights
it is easy to avoid being beaten by a bunch of thugs in Singapore or end up as some kind of slave, someone like me is less likely to be assaulted than in Chicago >erasure of many native vernacular languages (especially within the Chinese community)
who gives a shit >bleeding skilled professionals (especially majority Chinese and minority Tamils)
mundane economics, you might as well be complaining about aluminum prices >essentially entirely dependent on migrant labor (Indians and Malays from Malaysia, SEAsians, Indians) for every single need.
the idea they are "entirely" is ridiculous, during the world wars many countries underwent rationing and women took over men's jobs and so forth, just because an economy has become accustomed to certain conditions does not mean it is "entirely dependent" on them, they are willing to work for peanuts so Singaporeans just go "ok? sure, we'll find something economically productive for you to do since you're too stupid to figure it out yourself, just don't cause any trouble like ethnic minorities in western countries, if you start raping children like the rape gangs in the UK we won't accuse the girls of being racist we will just shoot you in the head", you are kind of stupid as well for thinking they would be "entirely dependent"
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cancel culture is a joke compared to what most governments with that power can do. If you talk about race and heredity in the West you'll probably keep your job in academia or whatever, unless you're an butthole about it like James Watson was, then you MIGHT lose an honorary position. If you contradict the CCP's dogma or piss of the wrong person in China, you can face anything from unemployment to "disappearance." If you accuse the Singaporean government of something and they disapprove, they use defamation laws to sue you into bankruptcy. 30+ years ago they simply threw you in jail or kicked you out of the country.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>If you talk about race and heredity in the West you'll probably keep your job in academia or whatever, unless you're an butthole about it like James Watson was, then you MIGHT lose an honorary position.
You really havent been paying attention to the world around you
2 years ago
Anonymous
>If you talk about race and heredity in the West you'll probably keep your job in academia or whatever, unless you're an butthole about it like James Watson was, then you MIGHT lose an honorary position.
You really havent been paying attention to the world around you
meds
2 years ago
Anonymous
youre supposed to post that when someone is blatantly detached from reality, not when theyre accurately describing it
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nope. Watson literally said shit with no real back asuses from "because I think it" with no scientific rigor behind his statements. Only edgy teens don't bother to actually read through the event in question and push a "he is being persecuted". If I say Poles are slow in learning and weak scholars based on personal anecdotes I would be rightfully condemned for making such statements.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Israel is more liberal than all of those. The "police" aspect mostly comes from the fact that the whole populace is armed and trained and the government screens potential minefields and such.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Israel is only a police state in Palestinian areas
2 years ago
Anonymous
Singapore is a perfectly healthy state. The fact that they have a zero-tolerance policy for litter and other such petty public degeneracy doesn't mean they're "falling apart."
2 years ago
Anonymous
It is when you have to shoehorn in low IQ shitskins in to every corner of your society cuz reasons.
2 years ago
Anonymous
singapore enjoys a vast police apparatus. it's a luxury item, conspicuous consumption that says we can afford to waste time caning tourists for spitting out gum. we don't need your trash, go frick yourself. chinks are smart enough to be like "hey i want to join that in group, sign me up." malays seethe, and then join, and continue seething but only make impotent gestures cuz they don't want to buck the system once they're inside. the key to having a succesful oppressive goverment is to let everyone join in the oppression.
2 years ago
Anonymous
How exactly is caning criminals more expensive than putting them in prison and feeding them everyday?
2 years ago
Anonymous
does singapore just cain people for spitting out gum or do they cain people and fine them?
If they don't fine them then it's feasible that they're missing out on money which could be viewed as an expense.
Singapore literally has no poor people by the standards of most of the rest of the world. they consider anybody with less than a 15,000(!) income impoverished, which is an above average income for the rest of southeast Asia.
https://borgenproject.org/tag/poverty-in-singapore/#:~:text=Currently%2C%20while%20Singapore%20has%20no,clothing%20and%20shelter%20per%20month.
2 years ago
Anonymous
They do. They just have ways to hide them out if sight and out if high traffic/visible areas.
No it isn’t. If it was legalist it would be more like North Korea, they’re pretty damn legalist in nature
Singapore is dominated by financially powerful Chinese merchant/political family clans. That’s essentially identical to Confucian teachings that the family unit is the most important thing in one’s life.
It dieant. Paul kagake basically kills people freely and is distorting Rwanda and LKYs policies are not special at all. Especially when Singapore was well developed for a colony at the time if independence.
Kagame also has a ruthless intelligence service that tracks down dissidents overseas and gacks them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And his intense repression inside the country. It's weird how people give him a pass but Isias Afeworki of Eritrea who does around the same shit more or less sans killing dissenters outside of Eritrea is in a worse light.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He gets a pass because he did a good job. Kagame might not be perfect but Rwanda has a reputation for ease of business and other positive things.
Plus there’s the East African Federation, the elephant in the room. Kagame will be the Bismarck of Africa if it works.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>He gets a pass because he did a good job
No he didn't, most of it isn't really definable since a lot of the numbers behind it are iffy or hard to track.
>Kagame might not be perfect but Rwanda has a reputation for ease of business and other positive things.
Yet has ton of other issues in it's governance and Kagame's control freak tendencies.
>Plus there’s the East African Federation, the elephant in the room. Kagame will be the Bismarck of Africa if it works
Unless it has the travel infrastructure and freedom of movement (Africa's biggest asset) required to achieve it it won't work efficiently.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>numbers behind it are iffy or hard to track. >implying ~~*fiat*~~ is any more transparent.
Rwanda is stable, and not rioting, and not starving. That's a win. >other issues in it's governance and Kagame's control freak tendencies.
workable issues, compared to "nothing gets done." outsider's perspective of a control freak. from the control freak's perspective, "i wish i didn't have to babysit these morons so they don't break shit." look who surrounds him, and ask yourself whether or not you'd trust them to do their jobs right (and also not stab you in the back). >it won't work efficiently.
working at all is good enough. actually, not being tech-regressive and letting infrastructure decay is good enough.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What do you expect me to do if 85% of the population of your country wanted to genocide the remaining 15% to which you belong?
Pretty much this. Park is loved by at least 50% of the South Korean population. A shit ton of his policies are world renowned, such as his reforestation efforts.
"dictator" and literally considered one of the best leaders of the 20th century. When he died even rightoids like Thatcher and Reagan went to his funeral and took the knee.
>muh Salazar
His rule stagnated Portugal just to keep Angola and Mozambique afloat, and failed even at that.
I spent some time in Portugal visiting family over the 1980s. So many older Portuguese were stunted due to... malnutrition. Because Salazar wasn't feeding his people.
If you like Angola, Salazar brought the Angolan experience to his portion of Iberia.
Julius Caesar probably. He considered himself to be an patrician through and through, but didn't look down on the Plebs nor did he patronize them acting like he was one of them. Octavian probably as well.
>Atatürk >Stalin >Peron >Salazar >Kim Il-sung >Park Chung Hee >Deng Xiaoping >Lee Kuan Yew >Pinochet >Lukashenka
Each of these "regimes" saw unprecedented material and social growth that benefited the overwhelming majority of the population of these countries.
Stalin.
>norm.jpg
Is/was Singapore fascist? In any case I have come to regard Singapore as the ideal state. I want America to become like Singapore.
Singapore is Confucian. Disneyland under martial law, as it were. It blew my mind when i went, you can get beaten in prison for not picking up dog poop, but everybody is so fricking rich, israeliteel Changi Airport makes Los Angeles look like Somalia, picrel
It’s so beautiful. Our cities are slums in comparison.
>barely hold itself together
What?
A healthy state doesn't need a vast police apparatus just to move from day to day.
Yes it does. Look at Singapore, Rwanda, China, Israel, etc. what do they have in common? Immense prosperity and a police state.
And they hate the police state. Especially when other equal or better places don't have it.
But it works. Look at Singapore. Look at Shanghai, or Tel Aviv. Such beautiful places. My country is in ruins, with enormous amounts of suffering in places like Seattle, San Francisco, every city honestly. If we had a Lee Kuan Yew and a PAP we would be such a nice place.
>distorting Rwanda
What do you mean? Under him Rwanda went from being the site of a genocide to being an Eastern-European tier country.
>Look at Singapore. Look at Shanghai, or Tel Aviv. Such beautiful places.
Only a toddler or an Instagram influencer would determine the worth of a country from how their wealthiest city looks. Which one are you?
>Eastern-European tier country
mate, Rwanda is like the 6th poorest country in the world, it is a complete shithole
Kagame is trying to sell Kigali as "the cleanest, safest city in Africa" but it's bullshit
Even in that video, there is no trash on the streets. No filth or human feces like in San Francisco. The comments indicate there is no drug problem either. It is a poor place but one which can easily trend upwards. In that respect it already surpasses many communities in Moldova or Bulgaria.
I have faith in Kagame. Rwanda is one of the most prosperous nations in Africa.
>there is no trash on the streets
Idiots like you are so easy to trick. It has no real economy and Rwanda fudges it's data.
I don't even know how western and/or white people fall for his basic as frick shit while they scrutinize other dictators across the world
>no real economy
only by western standards of ~~*extraction and export*~~. In that video there were zero beggars and zero stolen goods marketplaces. Compare that to other favelas worldwide that are all run by gangs. Even Hong Kong's walled city was run by triads.
What the hell do they export?
Their 2019 export breakdown
>gold doesn't count, only "value added" products count.
>Abu Dabi doesn't have a real economy either then.
It literally takes a generation of educational investment to create the skilled labor pool required to grow the manufacturing and service sectors. You can't hire 6th grade dropouts to build airplanes.
>complete shithole
>for evidence, here is a video on its "WORST Slum"
>not even as bad as some places in Denver I could show you
ngmi
>Singapore
Suppression of all potential dissenting voices to this day, lack of respect for basic human rights, erasure of many native vernacular languages (especially within the Chinese community), bleeding skilled professionals (especially majority Chinese and minority Tamils) and essentially entirely dependent on migrant labor (Indians and Malays from Malaysia, SEAsians, Indians) for every single need.
>Rwanda
Military dictatorship, still dirt poor even compared to others in its neighborhood, only recently not perpetually at war, no semblance of freedom of speech.
>China
Don't even get me started, one of the most corrupt and disgusting regimes ever to roam the earth. Higher wealth inequality than America despite being "communist." What a joke.
>Israel
Built on religious apartheid. That should be reason enough to chuck it out.
I enjoy my secular, human rights ensuring, representative democracy, thanks very much. It's not perfect but it's much better than the alternative.
I wish we had a religious and ethnic apartheid
>I enjoy my secular, human rights ensuring, representative democracy, thanks very much. It's not perfect but it's much better than the alternative.
And yet we have tens of thousands of homeless people and massive drug crises. Did you know 80,000 people died from fentanyl overdoses alone in the USA last year? Singapore solved the issue of drugs.
Still has addiction and the reality that Singaporeans can just get their hits abroad . There's also that East Asian "drugs are bad but boozing up till kingdom come is A-Okay!" thing.
>Singaporeans can just get their hits abroad
Not my problem. If they go to Thailand to score, good for them. No drugs here = no gangs here. Duterte is based, knows how to copy a good idea.
>bleeding skilled professionals
so is California and Taiwan. this is a materialist symptom of PPP adjusted GDP per capita and exchange rates.
>only recently not perpetually at war,
so what? as long as they keep winning it's all good.
>corrupt and disgusting regimes
the chinese are mostly okay with it. despite western media coverage, democratic agitators outside of hong kong are as much a political fringe as the green or libertarian parties in the usa. china sends thousands of students to us universities each year, very few defectors. re: corruption: it's inevitable, high vs low trust society will always stabilize at an equilibrium that includes corruption. the west like to hide it and pretend graft doesn't exist. china is quite upfront about it, you get used to it, like paying taxes. wealth inequality is also inevitable, the Pareto effect is the real, iterated, consequence of fools getting their money parted.
>Apartheid.
Is relatively based or cucked. Is it better or worse than ethnic cleansing or Balkanization? Most chad would've been to just genocide them 60 years ago, solved the problem once and for all. They won the 6 day war, but didn't go all the way. Even though they're in the wrong, stacis love bullies and losers stay foreveralone. Dunno why Iran keeps funding Hezbollah, backing intentional losers. At this point Hezzies are controlled opposition, gangsters in it for the funding like the Provos and Ulsters, not really interested in actually winning lest the Iranian gibs stop flowing. It'll have to be a new group/generation to actually take Israel down.
>as long as they keep winning it's all good.
Wars cost money anon.
>the Chinese are mostly okay with it.
they aren't fine with being forced into their homes due to zero Covid and their economy dying with it.
Many western companies basically ditched China because they got fed up with this shit.
>Wars cost money anon.
sounds like loser talk
>zero Covid and their economy dying with it.
that's literally the opposite of corruption, which would be working them to death in unsafe conditions. Chinese oligarchs are literally losing the most by closing their own businesses. And for foreign businesses, why do you think the Chinese have incentive to kowtow to foreign businesses interests? You got it backwards, the Mouse and everybody else kowtows to them. Every foreign owned business that leaves creates an opening for a chinese owned business to take both whatever amount of skilled labor and eventually marketshare. Heck, if I believed in 6D chess, I'd go schizo and claim that's part of the plan.
as for people stuck in their homes, yeah some people are fed up, but the media coverage is pretty disingenuous. like - oh they're delivering food to the elderly people in quarantine? no shit. my grandma here in the US also gets government meals delivered, 365 days a year, literally a nothingburger. that's a fricking solution, not a problem.
>I enjoy my secular, human rights ensuring, representative democracy, thanks very much. It's not perfect but it's much better than the alternative.
Dilate your pus-filled hole you freak
>still dirt poor even compared to others in its neighborhood
Stopped reading there.
Who the frick would pick Rwanda over Uganda or Kenya or Tanzania?
>Higher wealth inequality than America despite being "communist." What a joke.
Im honestly curious to see what it would like if the amerisharts had to try and run a country of 1 billion people
School shootings every 15 minutes. 150 million blacks.
You are objectively better off living in Singapore than a "democracy" like Brazil. Democracy isn't everything.
>Suppression of all potential dissenting voices to this day
no different from cancel culture in the west then, for example I am not allowed to openly discuss genetic evidence of differences between races without a mob intimidating my place of work into firing me, mob rule can be just as tyrannical as a despot, democracy does not have as much effect in this regard as you imagine
>lack of respect for basic human rights
it is easy to avoid being beaten by a bunch of thugs in Singapore or end up as some kind of slave, someone like me is less likely to be assaulted than in Chicago
>erasure of many native vernacular languages (especially within the Chinese community)
who gives a shit
>bleeding skilled professionals (especially majority Chinese and minority Tamils)
mundane economics, you might as well be complaining about aluminum prices
>essentially entirely dependent on migrant labor (Indians and Malays from Malaysia, SEAsians, Indians) for every single need.
the idea they are "entirely" is ridiculous, during the world wars many countries underwent rationing and women took over men's jobs and so forth, just because an economy has become accustomed to certain conditions does not mean it is "entirely dependent" on them, they are willing to work for peanuts so Singaporeans just go "ok? sure, we'll find something economically productive for you to do since you're too stupid to figure it out yourself, just don't cause any trouble like ethnic minorities in western countries, if you start raping children like the rape gangs in the UK we won't accuse the girls of being racist we will just shoot you in the head", you are kind of stupid as well for thinking they would be "entirely dependent"
Cancel culture is a joke compared to what most governments with that power can do. If you talk about race and heredity in the West you'll probably keep your job in academia or whatever, unless you're an butthole about it like James Watson was, then you MIGHT lose an honorary position. If you contradict the CCP's dogma or piss of the wrong person in China, you can face anything from unemployment to "disappearance." If you accuse the Singaporean government of something and they disapprove, they use defamation laws to sue you into bankruptcy. 30+ years ago they simply threw you in jail or kicked you out of the country.
>If you talk about race and heredity in the West you'll probably keep your job in academia or whatever, unless you're an butthole about it like James Watson was, then you MIGHT lose an honorary position.
You really havent been paying attention to the world around you
meds
youre supposed to post that when someone is blatantly detached from reality, not when theyre accurately describing it
Nope. Watson literally said shit with no real back asuses from "because I think it" with no scientific rigor behind his statements. Only edgy teens don't bother to actually read through the event in question and push a "he is being persecuted". If I say Poles are slow in learning and weak scholars based on personal anecdotes I would be rightfully condemned for making such statements.
Israel is more liberal than all of those. The "police" aspect mostly comes from the fact that the whole populace is armed and trained and the government screens potential minefields and such.
Israel is only a police state in Palestinian areas
Singapore is a perfectly healthy state. The fact that they have a zero-tolerance policy for litter and other such petty public degeneracy doesn't mean they're "falling apart."
It is when you have to shoehorn in low IQ shitskins in to every corner of your society cuz reasons.
singapore enjoys a vast police apparatus. it's a luxury item, conspicuous consumption that says we can afford to waste time caning tourists for spitting out gum. we don't need your trash, go frick yourself. chinks are smart enough to be like "hey i want to join that in group, sign me up." malays seethe, and then join, and continue seething but only make impotent gestures cuz they don't want to buck the system once they're inside. the key to having a succesful oppressive goverment is to let everyone join in the oppression.
How exactly is caning criminals more expensive than putting them in prison and feeding them everyday?
does singapore just cain people for spitting out gum or do they cain people and fine them?
If they don't fine them then it's feasible that they're missing out on money which could be viewed as an expense.
>but everybody is so fricking rich
They just do a really good job of hiding the poors out of sight.
Singapore literally has no poor people by the standards of most of the rest of the world. they consider anybody with less than a 15,000(!) income impoverished, which is an above average income for the rest of southeast Asia.
https://borgenproject.org/tag/poverty-in-singapore/#:~:text=Currently%2C%20while%20Singapore%20has%20no,clothing%20and%20shelter%20per%20month.
They do. They just have ways to hide them out if sight and out if high traffic/visible areas.
>Singapore is Confucian.
It's the exact opposite of confucianism. It's almost textbook legalism.
No it isn’t. If it was legalist it would be more like North Korea, they’re pretty damn legalist in nature
Singapore is dominated by financially powerful Chinese merchant/political family clans. That’s essentially identical to Confucian teachings that the family unit is the most important thing in one’s life.
>A slowly dying citystate that can barely hold itself together and needs constant police to breathe down your neck
Yeah, no.
cope
It works pretty well but it's an anomaly and would be hard to replicate.
is he the guy who said "a singaporian would piss in an elevator if you let him?"
The idea of a benevolent dictator is stupid.
>Lee Kuan Yew
>Paul Kagame
When it works, it works very well
It dieant. Paul kagake basically kills people freely and is distorting Rwanda and LKYs policies are not special at all. Especially when Singapore was well developed for a colony at the time if independence.
Kagame also has a ruthless intelligence service that tracks down dissidents overseas and gacks them.
And his intense repression inside the country. It's weird how people give him a pass but Isias Afeworki of Eritrea who does around the same shit more or less sans killing dissenters outside of Eritrea is in a worse light.
He gets a pass because he did a good job. Kagame might not be perfect but Rwanda has a reputation for ease of business and other positive things.
Plus there’s the East African Federation, the elephant in the room. Kagame will be the Bismarck of Africa if it works.
>He gets a pass because he did a good job
No he didn't, most of it isn't really definable since a lot of the numbers behind it are iffy or hard to track.
>Kagame might not be perfect but Rwanda has a reputation for ease of business and other positive things.
Yet has ton of other issues in it's governance and Kagame's control freak tendencies.
>Plus there’s the East African Federation, the elephant in the room. Kagame will be the Bismarck of Africa if it works
Unless it has the travel infrastructure and freedom of movement (Africa's biggest asset) required to achieve it it won't work efficiently.
>numbers behind it are iffy or hard to track.
>implying ~~*fiat*~~ is any more transparent.
Rwanda is stable, and not rioting, and not starving. That's a win.
>other issues in it's governance and Kagame's control freak tendencies.
workable issues, compared to "nothing gets done." outsider's perspective of a control freak. from the control freak's perspective, "i wish i didn't have to babysit these morons so they don't break shit." look who surrounds him, and ask yourself whether or not you'd trust them to do their jobs right (and also not stab you in the back).
>it won't work efficiently.
working at all is good enough. actually, not being tech-regressive and letting infrastructure decay is good enough.
What do you expect me to do if 85% of the population of your country wanted to genocide the remaining 15% to which you belong?
Yet he's targetting and harassing Tutsi.
Park Chung Hee
Pretty much this. Park is loved by at least 50% of the South Korean population. A shit ton of his policies are world renowned, such as his reforestation efforts.
"dictator" and literally considered one of the best leaders of the 20th century. When he died even rightoids like Thatcher and Reagan went to his funeral and took the knee.
The ultimate tard wrangler.
Based and true
Is his son going to frick up everything?
He basically screwed over Portugal and entered a pointless war
I would agree with you if it weren't for the moronic colonial wars he insisted on fighting
That would have been true if he had been deposed/stepped down in 1949
came here to post this
He said benevolent, not moronic.
right, thats why i didnt post a pic of you
My man Asian Bill Clinton
Salazar
>muh Salazar
His rule stagnated Portugal just to keep Angola and Mozambique afloat, and failed even at that.
I spent some time in Portugal visiting family over the 1980s. So many older Portuguese were stunted due to... malnutrition. Because Salazar wasn't feeding his people.
If you like Angola, Salazar brought the Angolan experience to his portion of Iberia.
Augustus.
Julius Caesar probably. He considered himself to be an patrician through and through, but didn't look down on the Plebs nor did he patronize them acting like he was one of them. Octavian probably as well.
Any dictator is benevolent if you are ideologized enough.
>>>Am*rican whining and b***hing about his country
it still being a land of opportunity compared to Singapore
kys fricktard
there are none in modern times
He gave us the best oyster sauce
What’s the sauce
make louisiana great again
>Atatürk
>Stalin
>Peron
>Salazar
>Kim Il-sung
>Park Chung Hee
>Deng Xiaoping
>Lee Kuan Yew
>Pinochet
>Lukashenka
Each of these "regimes" saw unprecedented material and social growth that benefited the overwhelming majority of the population of these countries.
>stalin
lel. Are you that budding new left-wing schizo that spams posts about how great Stalin was?
He's obviously not a left-wing schizo if he likes Salazar and Pinochet
Dumbass
every decent absolute monarch is a benevolent dictator
(formerly) benevolent dictator