Why are Brits so bad at land warfare?
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Why are Brits so bad at land warfare?
Why are Brits so bad at land warfare?
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Because you cherrypicked defeats and put them into a collage. You could make the exact same image in the reverse and make a topic tomorrow saying "Why are Brits so great at land warfare?" Please try to make an interesting, unique thread for once rather than trying to peddle the same boring old topics. You contribute nothing other than to further lower the discourse on this board.
Happy to help if you need any further guidance
Nope... don't be mad snowflake but being defeated by Turks or random african tribes is really an english feat there is no similar example among French or Germans
Cool since you don’t want to discuss history but want to do national shitflinging go to
The French were driven from Vietnam after multiple military defeats. The British empire at its peak occupied a quarter of the globe, meaning there was more chance of a lucky native strike, compared to the German Empire which consisted of a small sausage factory in Tanganyika
>The French were driven from Vietnam after multiple military defeats.
Just like how the British were driven out from Boer lands after the British went through some of the most embarrassing defeats known to man during the First Boer War
>The British empire at its peak occupied a quarter of the globe,
Yes it’s true, the Brits were mostly in control of a bunch of spear chucking ooga boggas
>meaning there was more chance of a lucky native strike, compared to the German Empire
No one denies that
>Yes it’s true, the Brits were mostly in control of a bunch of spear chucking ooga boggas
As opposed to the dozens of gunpowder-wielding, iron-working nations that the Spanish forcibly subjugated in the Americas, right
Are you seriously trying to compare Aztecs to fricking Aboriginals?
None, I’m just someone who enjoys history, apparently that’s very strange to modern day IQfygays.
This place truly has become some sort of infused abomination of both IQfy and /misc/.
Are you seriously trying to imply the conquest of the Aztecs with the support of tens of thousands of native warriors from surrounding tribes seething at them was impressive
The absolute state of IQfy.
>no retort
Lol he is unable to pretend a handful of bong soldiers with umatcheable technological superiority supported by tens of thousands of native auxiliaries would be soifaced over by the resident browncels as the conquistadors are
>Yeah but if you ignore the thousands of Tlaxcalans, Cortes careful manipulation of the resentments of local tribes and employment of cannons against which the Aztecs had no prior experience is totally different from Lord Autumnbottom....
>tens of thousands of native warriors from surrounding tribes seething at them
If that was all it took, they would have defeated the Aztecs already.
>are you seriously trying to compare stone age oogaboogas with stone age oogaboogas?!?!
Pedro, plz.
So which irrelevant shithole country that was conquered by Britain do you come from?
>The French were driven from Vietnam after multiple military defeats
Mate, the French conquered Vietnam with 7 men
>On the morning, the French could notice several hundreds of soldiers looking at them on the walls.(...) Hautefeuille promptly hopped inside the ship's small dinghy with six of his sailors and his interpreter and directed himself toward the shore, while the citadel's guns fired a few unsuccessful rounds at them.
>Upon landing, the small squad was immediately swarmed with curious villagers. Hautefeuille and his men marched with firm steps toward the citadel's gate, and were soon surrounded by Vietnamese soldiers, who proceeded to march alongside them while pointing their spears and rifles, without daring to initiate hostilities. As they arrived near the citadel's moat, Hautefeuille noticed the province's Governor, Nguyễn Vũ.
>With his handgun in hand, Hautefeuille apologized for having shelled the fort, claiming it was in response to having been yelled at. A short negotiation ensued, but soon turned fruitless when the Governor firmly refused to give in to Hautefeuille's demands to enter the citadel. Losing his patience, Hautefeuille suddenly seized the old Governor by the collar and held his handgun on the Governor's temple, threatening to blow his brain out if all the local mandarins, plus the runaway mandarin of Hanoi, had not been gathered in front of him within the next 15 minutes. Some of the Vietnamese soldiers around them had moved forward at this sight, but they instantly pulled back when French sailors took aim.
>Thirteen minutes later, all the mandarins had been gathered and they entered the citadel alongside Hautefeuille and his men. The Governor and the other mandarins were kept as prisoners of war, while the 1,700 defenders of the citadel were disarmed and sent away.[9] With the capture of the citadel, Hautefeuille and his seven men had effectively taken control of the city, as well as the entire province.
They conquered a city (Ninh Binh) with 7 men, not Vietnam.
That being said, Francis Garnier conquering one third of Vietnam with 200 men was indeed pretty impressive.
Really weird how the Vietnamese went from incompetent cowards in the late 19th century to a bunch of fanatics who defeated three superpowers in the mid 20th century...
collecting empty deserts sparsely populated by knuckle draggers hardly qualifies as an "empire"
If your country hasn't conquered 2/3 of Europe you're living in a shithole
>The population eventually peaked in 1938, on the eve of World War II, by which time the British Empire accounted for an incredible 531 million people, making it the largest empire in history by population.
How did empty deserts contain so many people? We must harness their desert magic
>We must harness their desert magic
that's what the brits are trying to do
>indian
>desert
>low population
Thanks for confirming you’re just moronic
Don't get too upset with him. Most Brit-hating Thirdies have an IQ low enough to diagnose them as at least 'slightly moronic' by the standards of any civilised country.
where did I say low population sanjeet, also india is 1/3 deserts
>the German Empire which consisted of a small sausage factory in Tanganyika
Nice Blackadder reference
Germany lost every war they started.
Germany lost WWI and WWII but started neither.
>WW1
Black hand and Russo-Austrian autism
>WW2
Allies ignore the Soviet invasion of Poland (later b***h in geopolitical) and Finn-Baltic sovereignty
the meme even mentions the first afghan war... i read a book about that war no superpower could've won it.
the enviroment was hostile, the population was hostile, they often used troops enlisted from the raj which were of poor training and quality, resources were scarse and there was an impending feeling of doom caused by a possible russian invasion, literally what could've have they done?
France literally lost against their slaves in Haiti, moron
Yeah, but so did Britain
Many people forget that most of the Haitian Revolution actually consisted in Haitians humiliating the British army.
Their face off with Napoleon's expedition was only the end stage.
France is like the king of losing colonial wars
>Loses to Chickasaw tribe
>Loses to Haiti
>Loses to Mexico
>Loses to Vietnam
>Loses to Algeria
And at least in recent history the spanish gays and all their latin american gay armies
>Loses to Haiti
Reminder that Britain did as well
In 1793 the British invaded, and France then proceeded to abolish slavery and armed the freed slaves to fight the British.
In 1797, Toussaint Louverture kicked the British out of Haiti on the behalf of France.
>there is no similar example among French
Anon, I...
French voted by a landslide to give algeria its independence. Everyone in France besides "pieds noir" wanted to get rid of this financial black hole. The independence groups had, for their part, been successfully annihilated by the French army.
Vietnam would be a better occurence
England has never performed well against Euros. Their only competent commanders since the middle ages (when their commanders were more French than English) were Wellington and Marlborough. The former fought the French B-team and then a hastily assembled army from a depopulated country and the latter mostly led Germans into battle. The only British commander of WW2 who was actually good was Jock Campbell, most were bad, and a few were decent.
>French cope intensifies
>It's not very effective.
Didn't Britain have to bail France out twice in the 20th century? After wiping the floor with the Corsican Midget (also known as the greatest Frenchman who ever lived) twice?
>Britshits unironically think they did the heavy lifting during both world wars when it was France and Russia throwing men into meatgrinder while it was USA that saved yuropoors from themselves
>Brits unironically think they effortlessly beat good ol' Napoleon when it was Russians and Austrians bleeding themselves dry for nearly twenty years
Typical Rothschild slave
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>Didn't Britain have to bail France out twice in the 20th century?
No. America had far more impact in both wars than Britain.
>After wiping the floor with the Corsican Midget (also known as the greatest Frenchman who ever lived) twice?
Weird how British led coalitions kept losing until France invaded Russia, almost like Russia carried the sixth coalition. Also great job stopping Louis XIV you only had all of Europe helping you and failed to stop him from putting a Bourbon on the Spanish throne.
>Didn't Britain have to bail France out twice in the 20th century?
Pommy's delusion at its best
Lmao
Good of you to show three battles in which ANGLO BVLLs saved the fr*Nch
monty was best commander in 2nd ww
SAAAR BRITISHER BASTARDS BAD AT WAR THEY NO CONQUERED INDIA BENCHOD
>I'm sure to win because speed is inferior
Empire building is a sea war not a land war
Great Britain stronk. Once anyway. We wuz Raj 'n shieeet.
>but being defeated by Turks or random african tribes is really an english feat there is no similar example among French or Germans
/his/cel moment
>"victory"
Yellow feverish take
So the French won?
Yeah, frogs knight >>> undisciplined monkey mob
Didn't the poles backstab the frog munchers? Then became the honorary Black folk?
They need their allies to carry them.
>Posts an example where both sides got giga fricked by disease
/his/torian moment.
And then the French used their superior élan, training and tactics to pull of a stunning victory, or...?
Is this supposed to be your "gotcha" moment, you illiterate buffoon? They couldn't even deploy properly to fight so all they did was sitting in garrisons with occasional skirmishes ending in French favor. The entire situation was so fricked that both France and Britain gave up and left Haiti on its own.
No, the gotcha moment is you trying to um ackchoally a French defeat because you can't just admit you were wrong lol
>assblasted brit moving goalposts
>Is also an illiterate moron
Unsurprising.
Did the French lose against what were more or less the equivalent of dislocated African tribesmen in Haiti?
Britain has sucked at conventional war for as long as it’s existed but it’s compensated with its excellent naval warfare, intelligence, and special forces. It basically invented the modern use of those three.
>another day on IQfy
>another thread about us
LOL
British ground units being of poor quality is well know and has been demonstrated by Max Hastings who is a Brit himself.
It's also why during WW1 despite having roughly the same number of mobilized men the Brits were only entrusted to guard 100km of the front line, just twice as much as the Belgians, while the French covered 800km of it.
Hmmm
insular weakness. they evolved among themselves and so when an invasive species invades they get totally decimated.
They are insular with merchant/pirate mentality. They are geared towards ships, lots of ships, and expeditionary forces for limited operations.
If you hear about ships, epic landing operations to succesfully destroy a farmstead or disable a tug in the port, heroic bombing raids, daring infiltration units to rustle some jimmies or glorious strategic retreats towards the coast to get the brave lads back home on the ships, yes, that's the brits.
The hate on the British is so pathetic. It always boils down to some weird insecurity
>wahhhh I’m brown and I was colonised by a tiny island on the other side of the world it’s not fair
>wahhhh I’m Irish and we are the biggest victims in history but also we are strong heroes
>I’m American and 1776 is the most important thing for my history knowledge
It’s not even debates on whether the British Empire was good or bad or mixed. It’s just “the biggest empire ever was… actually bad at fighting!”
Ok. Sure. If only they fought like the awesome fighters of forgotten kingdom number 7.
Just reeks of petty insecure jealousy. They were the most successful European empire. They lasted the longest. They transitioned the least painfully.
It is amusing to hear people act like they’re both weak pussies but also puppet masters manipulating the entire world though, like they’re the israelites of Europe lmao
Post of truth and I stand with my Anglo frens for 800 more years of cucking french and spanish ambitions
Their military has always been "good enough" to get the job done, which is the ideal and most efficient state to be in. Haters will cope and seethe at this and bring direct comparisons of troop quality, elan, equipment, tactics or whatever, but whatever side they are obsessed with still probably lost that war and it was because england was more efficient and diversified its strategy to include things like economics, espionage and other such things that actually win wars.
>Their military has always been "good enough" to get the job done
To be more accurate, their military was always pretty mediocre, but their diplomacy was excellent and thus they always had strong allies do get the job done.
Well, thinking about it, it's true I have hard time to find a clear cut British victory if I consider a period from 1850 to today. The 2nd battle of El Alamein comes to mind but they vastly outnumbered the italian - german forces and in this regards it's a bit of a shame that the 1st battle of el Alamein end up by a draw
Brits are just bad in general
Bad teeth
Officer class that was brought up in boarding schools were the gayging system ruled. Boys would be turned into traumatized homosexuals and then officers, politicians, judges etc. British soldiers were lions led by donkeys.