Why are browsers so bloated? Why are websites so bloated? Watching youtube is a drag.

Why are browsers so bloated? Why are websites so bloated? Watching youtube is a drag. Why do we need 10 different javascript frameworks to deliver a 1080p video?

It seems like 12GB of RAM is barely enough to browse the web these days.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you are just getting old grandpa. 16gb of ram is the norm and its easy to get for under 50 bucks. quit being a cheapskate ya old bastard

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Forced obsoletion.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Users need a reason to upgrade hardware and corporations create that reason. All part of "planned obsolesce" scheme.

      Yeah, well. Frick them. They'll end up alienating everyone except corporate drones

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        totally not what they're anticipating
        >oh no, the people who pirate data and actively work against our corporate goals are no longer engaging with our product! whatever shall we do?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That' not what that means, young redditor.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    64 bits takes twice as much as 32

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Users need a reason to upgrade hardware and corporations create that reason. All part of "planned obsolesce" scheme.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Developers need a reason to stay employed and code bloat create that reason. All part of the "trannies4code" scheme.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Soiydev javascript libraries. I block all third party javascript by default and if I have to unblock more than 2 or 3 domains to make it usable then I just use another site. umatrix is good for this. It can also save your settings per site.

    If your webpage is blank without js then that's a skip for me.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why are browsers so bloated?
    HTTP's a moderately complicated protocol.
    HTML isn't exactly the simplest to parse.
    CSS is bloatedly complex.
    JS... holy frick that's the worst part, and all the ad delivery stuff is the worst of the worst. Literal cancer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      but, how will you center a div without 2 CSS libraries and 3 JS frameworks??????

      Soiydev javascript libraries. I block all third party javascript by default and if I have to unblock more than 2 or 3 domains to make it usable then I just use another site. umatrix is good for this. It can also save your settings per site.

      If your webpage is blank without js then that's a skip for me.

      umatrix is deprecated. Use UblockOrigin advanced mode instead

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >umatrix is deprecated. Use UblockOrigin advanced mode instead
        >this meme again
        YAWN

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The developer himself said it's no longer in development or supported, and archived it. Just move on and use uBO like everyone else, nostalgia homosexualry is a weakness. Rid yourself of it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          homie tf you mean "meme". It no longer gets updates. Move on

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like we need a complete rework from the ground up.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >HTTP's a moderately complicated protocol.
      Are... are you serious? You think that parsing HTTP (be it 1 2 3) has any incidence on bloat at all?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yes

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A full HTTP implementation? That's getting to be a complex protocol with all the bits and pieces of extensions. There are much simpler protocols. I've read the source to actual implementations of this stuff. 1.0 was simple enough, but we aren't in that world any more.
        But the bigger problems happen with parsing the results of the fetches and displaying them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >css
      >complex

      Ok IQlet

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >post complaining about browser
    >task manager screenshot not showing the full list of processes spawned btly the browser
    Why is it always like this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Huh? It's a bunch of Firefox's own processes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >nooo browsers are incredibly bloated look at this memory consumption!!!
        >may we see what was actually open in the browser?
        >no

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Speaking of, windows also uses a bunch of ram to no discernible benefit of mine.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Lots of tabs open, its "normal" consumption.
            As anon said

            >Why are browsers so bloated?
            HTTP's a moderately complicated protocol.
            HTML isn't exactly the simplest to parse.
            CSS is bloatedly complex.
            JS... holy frick that's the worst part, and all the ad delivery stuff is the worst of the worst. Literal cancer.

            this.
            I recommend "Marvellous suspender" extenesion that automagically puts tabs to sleep.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Lots of tabs open, its "normal" consumption.
            It's normal as in "it's been normalized" because the web is bloated. It's not normal in the sense that optimization is thrown out the window.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's why I put "normal" in quotation marks

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No need to optimize = no one cares to optimize
    As soon as it works people stop caring

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    web browsers are now mini-operating systems

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does Firefox have a memory saver option like Chromium-based browsers?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Google pushes this bloated non-standard web so that anyone without their huge budgets will be unable to create a new browser engine.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The web app bubble will burst once you can't even open 10 tabs with 128GiBs of RAM. Desktop App Developers will rise in popularity when people realize you can run native apps using just KiBs of RAM per app.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because web devs literally import a framework to tell if a number is odd or even.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    UNUSED RAM IS WASTED RAM

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No excuse for unoptimized shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      your unused life is a wasted life, go try some IQfy-related activities like learning your OS or setting up an ad-hoc network with a few machines or something

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It will never make sense to me. Any PC can run Crysis now but a simple web page will force it to its knees

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    5-10 years ago you'd have total agreement on here. The webshits have truly taken over.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I do fine with 8GBs

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >It seems like 12GB of RAM is barely enough to browse the web these days.
    What are you talking about? I have an old Thinkpad that I use as a fap station machine with only 4gb of ram and it's more than capable enough for 1080p youtube videos and runs literally every website.

    >39 tabs
    >durr why do modern browsers take up so much ram hurr
    lol, wait you're actually moronic never mind.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >39 tabs
      >durr why do modern browsers take up so much ram hurr
      >lol, wait you're actually moronic never mind.
      this, OP is a homosexual

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >can't watch israelitetube in W10 with 4GB RAM
    skill issues all around, sweetie, go learn to use and optimize your OS, it's not hard, it's not like mcIntrash bs or loonix lunacy

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    people are only responsible when forced to be, otherwise they just follow the path of least resistance
    in this case it means there's no incentive to save resources and optimize
    it will simply continue this trend endlessly as long as hardware improves and remains widely available

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because people in general are fricking moronic

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