No closed case is in "the top 10". If you want to coom over temps, get an open air case.
Meshify C has decent temps that ought to satisfy any nonautist.
>posts benchmarks with no open air cases >muh 60°C UNACCEPTABLE!!!1!
cute tantrum, autistic troony
2 years ago
Anonymous
project and move goalposts more, please
2 years ago
Anonymous
>removing front panel and filters AND side panel >NOOOO THAT DOESNT COUNT AS OPEN >misses the literal open air case in the list
lmao, sad pathetic moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>"no closed case is in the top 10" >open air case not even in top 20 >top performing case for the last 10+ years is a "closed" case with no holes in the side panel.
2 years ago
Anonymous
double moron Black person
wtf from when are these? wasn't the lian li lancool mesh 2 the best temp out of the box according to GM?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>60c is so bad >Must buy $180 case
Man has autism
Watches GamersNexus
All his money is gone
Many such cases!
why do they make """airflow""" cases but make the side panel completely solid lmao
like do any of these case designers understand how GPUs exhaust air, making it a solid panel means the CPU gets a lot of the sloppy seconds from the GPU
Out of all things to b***h about, you b***h about case prices.
Back then it was not unheard-of to spend $500+ on a case.
Granted cases have become more featureless and barren than a mountain mods UFO so the prices shouldn't be all that high but still, cases last basically forever its not a massive expense like a GPU is nowadays
Nah, most cases are like $49-100 USD for a normal ATX form factor. EATX stuff command north of $99 nothing beyond $199 unless you want something special.
This has been a recent phenomenon
People used to spend alot more on cases 15 years ago (this is what I mean when I say "back then") and it amazes me that out of all the price increases anyone has the gall to complain about something that is continully becoming a shrinking portion of your PC's budget, especially considering cases don't have to be disposable.
>People used to spend alot more on cases 15 years ago
false, cases are literally free after rebate 15 years ago
2 years ago
Anonymous
Low end garbage ones maybe
Even a "classic" Antec p180 was $170 in 2005 which was $250 today and that wasn't anywhere near the ceiling of what PC enthusiasts where willing to spend.
People nowadays act like a $200 fractal torrent is really expensive top end case
No, it is always been the case. Most of the cost of a desktop PC back then went towards memory, motherboard, CPU, HDD and expansion cards.
Cases were never that super expensive unless you went got something specialized.
Cases were smaller too as well.
EATX is not a standard, mobo and case makers slap it onto anything that is wider than ATX, resulting in a frickton of mobos that wont fit in cases even tho both says "EATX".
SSI-EEB or CEB is the standard you want to look for if you want a real case that fits "EATX" mobos. or pay really fricking close attention to the measurement specs for mobo width on the case.
>Granted cases have become more featureless and barren than a mountain mods ufo
This. I wouldn't care if the cases were at all compact, but cases today are massively oversized and yet don't even have the option for more than 1 or 2 hard drives and never have 5.25" bays anymore.
>cases today are massively oversized and yet don't even have the option for more than 1 or 2 hard drives and never have 5.25" bays anymore
Yeah, if you want something actually good you either get a mini-ITX case or a server chassis (or both, more realistically). The age of desktop systems with 10 HDDs and 5 expansion bays is over - the enthuasists are all about specializing nowadays.
Bottom vents too, with separate filters for the front and back ones.
And you can rotate the side panel to move the vents. And the side panels are tool-less.
The power buttons fell like shit though and I'd personally like front USB-C.
This is one of the only good modern cases as far as I'm concerned.
I hate the RGB Gaymer shit as much as anybody but I'm confident that the modern philosophy of "literally featureless black rectangle" is just to prove a point. >Yeah I'm pretty much a minimalist, I'm all about that pure functionality which is why my case has a door on it that I leave open 24/7 for airflow. Don't worry I close it if somebody who thinks I'm a gaymer might be around.
If the intake fans on the front have a high enough CFM and static pressure, it doesn't matter where all of the other fans are, or where they're pointing
No, he did. That is part of the reason that video card and other PC components manufactured in china are a bit cheaper than they used to be now. Same
Too short for an end table
With CaseLabs gone, MountainMods is the next best thing, gloriously stuck in the early 2000's. Thankfully CaseLabs will return this year though, under its new ownership but has all the IP and designs , they'll just be manufactured in Sweden since that's where the guy who bought their designs et al lives.
Can't wait until they're back. I used to pay a frickload for CaseLabs but at least I got something that was top quality, perfectly upgradeable, and supported pretty much for life until the (consumer facing; ttheir corporate and gov't contractor is still going I hear) company went out of business thanks to the Trump aluminum tariff
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No, he did. That is part of the reason that video card and other PC components manufactured in china are a bit cheaper than they used to be now. Same
i don't think it happened yet?
There are many more that could be done. I'm not sure if aluminum tariffs have been lifted for instance, but there have been some specifically related to electronics that were removed earlier this year Let me go check it out. https://www.reuters.com/world/china/us-reinstates-352-product-exclusions-china-tariffs-2022-03-23/ . Well, it wasn't that the tariffs were entirely listed but exclusions were added
GPU prices went down because supply increased and buttcoins went down.
Buttcoin was part of it, but the prices on especially AIBs (which were notably higher than FE or Reference designs, which were all registered exclusively to Taiwan fabrication as I recall) came down a bit even independent of the demand or scalping, because of easing of certain tariffs and added exclusions . For instance the Asus ROG Strix 3090 is back to being the $1700s MSRP that I bought one at before the week in January the tariffs went into effect that knocked them up to 2000-2100 and the white version to $2200!
2 years ago
Anonymous
GPU prices went down because supply increased and buttcoins went down.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>MountainMods is the next best thing, gloriously stuck in the early 2000's.
Yeah they are a little too stuck for my taste. Like the idea and the modularity but they are very very basic inside and out. The real kick in the teeth is that for the money you don't get any front IO, fan grills or bay covers. So you have to toss in more money to make them mearly look finished.
If money really was no object I'd get one of the extended Ascensions and 2 water barrels if for no other reason then as a stand.
It's price gouging. The say sUpPLy aNd dEmANd but there is no shortage nor is there more demand. Manufacturing is the same cost, there literally no reason except price gouging.
>i've used subpar chinkshit for a decade, works fine
yeah, and that's all they barely do. you're fine with it because you dont know better and have never used anything with real quality.
I don't like how all these cases don't have room for at least five 3.5" HDD's.
Also the SSD placement on majority of cases is very badly designed.
I guess I need to build my own.
This. I wouldn't care if the cases were at all compact, but cases today are massively oversized and yet don't even have the option for more than 1 or 2 hard drives and never have 5.25" bays anymore.
Out of all things to b***h about, you b***h about case prices.
Back then it was not unheard-of to spend $500+ on a case.
Granted cases have become more featureless and barren than a mountain mods ufo so the prices shouldn't be all that high but still, cases last basically forever its not a massive expense like a GPU is nowadays
>Granted cases have become more featureless and barren than a mountain mods ufo
[...] >cases today are massively oversized and yet don't even have the option for more than 1 or 2 hard drives and never have 5.25" bays anymore
Yeah, if you want something actually good you either get a mini-ITX case or a server chassis (or both, more realistically). The age of desktop systems with 10 HDDs and 5 expansion bays is over - the enthuasists are all about specializing nowadays.
bow in my glory i found for 40 bux, it's not even used.
Your best bet would probably be z690 but x670S is suppose to have a lot of expansion available later this year.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FjLkwc
For $2000 you could run 12 drives at pcie3x4. 10 of those drives could be pcie4x4 with no additional hardware.
I bought this in 2020 for £29.99. It's was a fricking great cheap case for older components if you want to do stuff with 5.25 and 3.5 bays. Literally being robbed if you buy this in 2022.
shipping crate fees from china will never go back down. combine with inflation and tariffs. we will probably see more flat packed PC cases soon but they're still working on tooling.
who the frick buys full atx tower cases these days? it's 2023 (will be). the trays are useless and disk storage is compact. mini tower or get microatx is the only way to go now, but frick off with sff
>the trays are useless >another moron that cant comprehend that other people have other needs and wants than himself
people with servers (storage), people with custom water loops.
>pay me triple for the same shit
How about no ezra
>implying it's the same
spoken like a true chinkshit connoisseur and the same kind of moron that buys shitty chinkshit tools that break in a year and keeps having to replace them.
I'm not saying "trays are useless" as an opinion. It's a fact. No one needs what you described. I don't even have a computer anymore. It's useless in modern time. Phone and a laptop is all you need.
My question is, where are all the full tower cases? When I upgraded last year, I looked for cases with no real intention to buy, and I could barely even find full towers.
>8 TD HDD >256 GB SSD for OS >1 TB SSD for programs + games
I don't understand why you would need more on your main machine. 1 or both of the SSDs in m.2 means you have one 3.5" drive spot needed. If you're using 1-2 GB HDDs in 2022 I am lmaoing @ ur life.
Modern games require 100+ GB per game. Some require close to 300 GB per game. Like Ark Survival or Modern Warfare. Thats like half the 1 TB SSD already for just 2 of the most popular games already.
>8 TD HDD >256 GB SSD for OS >1 TB SSD for programs + games
I don't understand why you would need more on your main machine. 1 or both of the SSDs in m.2 means you have one 3.5" drive spot needed. If you're using 1-2 GB HDDs in 2022 I am lmaoing @ ur life.
They cost the same your money is just worth less.
yep, this right here
also checked
Because you gen-Zers actually pay for this garbage just like you pay for Windows licenses.
I get all my cases, fans, windows licenses for free you fricking morons.
The best case is still only $90
>mesh C
>best
if you mean not even top 10 in cpu and gpu temps is somehow "best", sure.
No closed case is in "the top 10". If you want to coom over temps, get an open air case.
Meshify C has decent temps that ought to satisfy any nonautist.
have a nice day you fricking inbred moron
>posts benchmarks with no open air cases
>muh 60°C UNACCEPTABLE!!!1!
cute tantrum, autistic troony
project and move goalposts more, please
>removing front panel and filters AND side panel
>NOOOO THAT DOESNT COUNT AS OPEN
>misses the literal open air case in the list
lmao, sad pathetic moron.
>"no closed case is in the top 10"
>open air case not even in top 20
>top performing case for the last 10+ years is a "closed" case with no holes in the side panel.
wtf from when are these? wasn't the lian li lancool mesh 2 the best temp out of the box according to GM?
>60c is so bad
>Must buy $180 case
Man has autism
Watches GamersNexus
All his money is gone
Many such cases!
double moron Black person
that used to be $45
lmao literally never lower than €70 except ONCE in 2018 it was on sale for €55
That’s not even the best meshify case! The meshify 2 is.
why do they make """airflow""" cases but make the side panel completely solid lmao
like do any of these case designers understand how GPUs exhaust air, making it a solid panel means the CPU gets a lot of the sloppy seconds from the GPU
you'll short circuit the fans if side panel is not solid
because we dont live in the fricking 90s and early 2000s any more and both fans and heatsinks have evolved.
get a fricking ITX meme case if you want perforated side panels cus ur too stupid to buy something with that doesnt look like trash and performs well.
>his GPU doesn't have a blower cooler
anon, I...
cus you live under a fricking rock (and is a moron) and dont know how supply & demand and shortages and lockdowns work and their effects.
>you is
Never call anyone a moron again
You forgot punctuation, never post ever again.
no u
Out of all things to b***h about, you b***h about case prices.
Back then it was not unheard-of to spend $500+ on a case.
Granted cases have become more featureless and barren than a mountain mods UFO so the prices shouldn't be all that high but still, cases last basically forever its not a massive expense like a GPU is nowadays
Nah, most cases are like $49-100 USD for a normal ATX form factor. EATX stuff command north of $99 nothing beyond $199 unless you want something special.
This has been a recent phenomenon
People used to spend alot more on cases 15 years ago (this is what I mean when I say "back then") and it amazes me that out of all the price increases anyone has the gall to complain about something that is continully becoming a shrinking portion of your PC's budget, especially considering cases don't have to be disposable.
>People used to spend alot more on cases 15 years ago
false, cases are literally free after rebate 15 years ago
Low end garbage ones maybe
Even a "classic" Antec p180 was $170 in 2005 which was $250 today and that wasn't anywhere near the ceiling of what PC enthusiasts where willing to spend.
People nowadays act like a $200 fractal torrent is really expensive top end case
No, it is always been the case. Most of the cost of a desktop PC back then went towards memory, motherboard, CPU, HDD and expansion cards.
Cases were never that super expensive unless you went got something specialized.
Cases were smaller too as well.
for those of us who prefer full towers, this. you don't want a full tower, you want a workstation.
pic.
EATX is not a standard, mobo and case makers slap it onto anything that is wider than ATX, resulting in a frickton of mobos that wont fit in cases even tho both says "EATX".
SSI-EEB or CEB is the standard you want to look for if you want a real case that fits "EATX" mobos. or pay really fricking close attention to the measurement specs for mobo width on the case.
>Granted cases have become more featureless and barren than a mountain mods ufo
>cases today are massively oversized and yet don't even have the option for more than 1 or 2 hard drives and never have 5.25" bays anymore
Yeah, if you want something actually good you either get a mini-ITX case or a server chassis (or both, more realistically). The age of desktop systems with 10 HDDs and 5 expansion bays is over - the enthuasists are all about specializing nowadays.
>The age of desktop systems with 10 HDDs and 5 expansion bays is over
Not if I'm here
your presence doesnt change the fact case brands dont make super-towers any more.
Cooler master just came out with the new HAF, no 5.25 but plenty of HDDs.
Bidengays voted for this
nope. its cause you jerk off, degen.
it's the central banksters debasing the currencies and getting bribes for it (speaker's fees, jobs after their time at the central bank).
Oy vey
Jews
>still using an arc midi from 2012
feels good
Because you voted for Joe Biden.
This
Bluehats gotta be the most moronic motherfrickers on the planet
I bought this for 15€ in 2015
I'm still rocking that case.
I am too
About to replace it tho.
I want SSI-EEB support.
Now that's my ideal case right there. Optical drive bays, front usb 3.0 ports and front, side and top vents.
Bottom vents too, with separate filters for the front and back ones.
And you can rotate the side panel to move the vents. And the side panels are tool-less.
The power buttons fell like shit though and I'd personally like front USB-C.
This is one of the only good modern cases as far as I'm concerned.
I hate the RGB Gaymer shit as much as anybody but I'm confident that the modern philosophy of "literally featureless black rectangle" is just to prove a point.
>Yeah I'm pretty much a minimalist, I'm all about that pure functionality which is why my case has a door on it that I leave open 24/7 for airflow. Don't worry I close it if somebody who thinks I'm a gaymer might be around.
Orange man bad, mean tweets.. Bla bla bla. Now you get to starve.
i dont give more than 20 bucks for a box
If the intake fans on the front have a high enough CFM and static pressure, it doesn't matter where all of the other fans are, or where they're pointing
STAND ASIDE
>case + wood board on top = end table
Too short for an end table
lmao i have one of those rotting away in my garage
If you do a lot of data-transfers or backups they're actually really good with those hotswap drives in the front.
morons voted Biden. Elections have consequences.
Biden removed Trump's China tariffs, dipshit.
not yet
No, he did. That is part of the reason that video card and other PC components manufactured in china are a bit cheaper than they used to be now. Same
With CaseLabs gone, MountainMods is the next best thing, gloriously stuck in the early 2000's. Thankfully CaseLabs will return this year though, under its new ownership but has all the IP and designs , they'll just be manufactured in Sweden since that's where the guy who bought their designs et al lives.
Can't wait until they're back. I used to pay a frickload for CaseLabs but at least I got something that was top quality, perfectly upgradeable, and supported pretty much for life until the (consumer facing; ttheir corporate and gov't contractor is still going I hear) company went out of business thanks to the Trump aluminum tariff
>No, he did. That is part of the reason that video card and other PC components manufactured in china are a bit cheaper than they used to be now. Same
i don't think it happened yet?
https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/3515273-business-lobby-presses-biden-to-nix-china-tariffs/
There are many more that could be done. I'm not sure if aluminum tariffs have been lifted for instance, but there have been some specifically related to electronics that were removed earlier this year Let me go check it out. https://www.reuters.com/world/china/us-reinstates-352-product-exclusions-china-tariffs-2022-03-23/ . Well, it wasn't that the tariffs were entirely listed but exclusions were added
Buttcoin was part of it, but the prices on especially AIBs (which were notably higher than FE or Reference designs, which were all registered exclusively to Taiwan fabrication as I recall) came down a bit even independent of the demand or scalping, because of easing of certain tariffs and added exclusions . For instance the Asus ROG Strix 3090 is back to being the $1700s MSRP that I bought one at before the week in January the tariffs went into effect that knocked them up to 2000-2100 and the white version to $2200!
GPU prices went down because supply increased and buttcoins went down.
>MountainMods is the next best thing, gloriously stuck in the early 2000's.
Yeah they are a little too stuck for my taste. Like the idea and the modularity but they are very very basic inside and out. The real kick in the teeth is that for the money you don't get any front IO, fan grills or bay covers. So you have to toss in more money to make them mearly look finished.
If money really was no object I'd get one of the extended Ascensions and 2 water barrels if for no other reason then as a stand.
It's price gouging. The say sUpPLy aNd dEmANd but there is no shortage nor is there more demand. Manufacturing is the same cost, there literally no reason except price gouging.
I think actually exchange rate and asian production cost reasons (supply and demand for metal working and stuff) may apply.
In these hard times, a Rosewell case will do.
I use exclusively rosewill. Works fine. Been using them for a decade
>i've used subpar chinkshit for a decade, works fine
yeah, and that's all they barely do. you're fine with it because you dont know better and have never used anything with real quality.
that's a long motherboard
>pay me triple for the same shit
How about no ezra
The recession will everything back to normal
https://www.ebay.com/itm/284407468485
Reminder, you could get a whole fricking computer with monitor/keyboards everything for less than that.
Just buy a used PC and take out the guts if you really want to put a new stuff in. As long as its ATX compatible, you're good to go.
why would i buy the computer i'm trying to upgrade from again?
You're not buying a computer. Computer comes free with the case
that shit case is worth $0
Obviously, otherwise, your computer would be worthless.
>Phanteks
why does it trigger you?
Everyone I know who bought one is a reddit tier drop dead moron, who bought the case because someone else told them to.
no one told me to buy one keytard, my phanteks ehtto pro is good sneed
>budget case bad because people i don't like buy them
Budget just means disposable.
You're still paying for sheet-metal with screw holes either way.
>$179
>budget case
maybe last year but not anymore
the budget case all plebbitors bought from phanteks was not that model you dimwit. it was the Evolve.
I got given a ft02 free lol
I don't like how all these cases don't have room for at least five 3.5" HDD's.
Also the SSD placement on majority of cases is very badly designed.
I guess I need to build my own.
>SSD placement
it's all m.2 now
This. I wouldn't care if the cases were at all compact, but cases today are massively oversized and yet don't even have the option for more than 1 or 2 hard drives and never have 5.25" bays anymore.
bow in my glory i found for 40 bux, it's not even used.
stop buying stolen goods
got these 5in3 adapters for it aswell. fricking things were more expensive than the case itself.
t. jelly mutt.
it was a white guy with a white family in a decent neighborhood. he had gotten it years ago for a NAS project that never happened.
good thing it's not white then.
HAF was ugly on launch, is still ugly, and so is the new one.
If that was all black ngl that would be sexy as frick. White is gay.
but i do agree, also with the other front panel, but it's a shame it restricts so much airflow with those tiny cuts.
Frick why...if that had the front mesh of the white case that would be amazing.
are you a keytard it has space for 7 or 8
I want a NAS made entirely of NVME flash, and I don't want it to be a rackmount
what are my options?
>inb4 none
An older case with lots of 5.25 bays with icydock toughArmor MB873MP-B
Your best bet would probably be z690 but x670S is suppose to have a lot of expansion available later this year.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FjLkwc
For $2000 you could run 12 drives at pcie3x4. 10 of those drives could be pcie4x4 with no additional hardware.
This is so dumb. It's actually about the same price at pcie4x4.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RcVnGL
>not having the mobo and other shit suspended in the air for better ventillation with cum-cooled cpu
go back with your fricking cuck cage
I bought this in 2020 for £29.99. It's was a fricking great cheap case for older components if you want to do stuff with 5.25 and 3.5 bays. Literally being robbed if you buy this in 2022.
i bought this in 2018 but i dont remember the price
this is off-topic; how do we not have a fricking PC board lel
RUSHANS
screw your optics, I'm going out
I spent over $300 leafs on this after taxes.
i hope it's the XL version for that price, otherwise you should have a little revolution and replace your fricking communist moron government.
It's frickin big but it doesn't say XL on the side.
I should have got the compact.
It bugs me to death this only has 7 expansion slots
Got me a lancool II Mesh, included USB C stuff too. Has been the easiest case to build in I've ever had.
shipping crate fees from china will never go back down. combine with inflation and tariffs. we will probably see more flat packed PC cases soon but they're still working on tooling.
Theyre still under 60 bucks.
those type of cases used to be free after rebate
who the frick buys full atx tower cases these days? it's 2023 (will be). the trays are useless and disk storage is compact. mini tower or get microatx is the only way to go now, but frick off with sff
well, considering the price kept going up looks like everyone is buying it up
>the trays are useless
>another moron that cant comprehend that other people have other needs and wants than himself
people with servers (storage), people with custom water loops.
>implying it's the same
spoken like a true chinkshit connoisseur and the same kind of moron that buys shitty chinkshit tools that break in a year and keeps having to replace them.
I'm not saying "trays are useless" as an opinion. It's a fact. No one needs what you described. I don't even have a computer anymore. It's useless in modern time. Phone and a laptop is all you need.
>No one needs what you described
whatever you say, Mr Ignoramus
the problem is everyone skimps on 2.5/3.5 spots. and the root of that problem is that ssd storage >1tb is still expensive.
If you have more than 3 HDDs you kind of need a full tower case.
Mostly shipping costs
what are you talking about it's free shipping
Either moronic or master bait
Good job
My question is, where are all the full tower cases? When I upgraded last year, I looked for cases with no real intention to buy, and I could barely even find full towers.
there's literally one in OP's pic
>8 TD HDD
>256 GB SSD for OS
>1 TB SSD for programs + games
I don't understand why you would need more on your main machine. 1 or both of the SSDs in m.2 means you have one 3.5" drive spot needed. If you're using 1-2 GB HDDs in 2022 I am lmaoing @ ur life.
big case cools better
Modern games require 100+ GB per game. Some require close to 300 GB per game. Like Ark Survival or Modern Warfare. Thats like half the 1 TB SSD already for just 2 of the most popular games already.
And you could buy used 4TB HDD for $30 on ebay.
>used 4TB HDD
enjoy losing all your data
Why would I lose all my data? I have 4 different HDDs that are 4-6TB each, bought em all for $100 total