Why are European healthcare systems falling behind, despite the advancements in medicine?

Why are European healthcare systems falling behind, despite the advancements in medicine? It feels like things are getting more expensive since the government has to keep up with inflation and innovation hasn't actually dropped the prices. Why is that?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Europe fell off in general.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I see European countries on that list, I don't see US. seems like healthcare is doing fine.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I see European countries on that list
      Yeah the ones that have special economic privilege. Where is France? Where is Poland? Where is UK? Austria? Exactly.
      >I don't see US
      low bar

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Poland is 48
        France is 20
        UK is 34

        this is out of 167 countries. If Poland is above half mark that's good.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where's USA on that list? I can't see it for some reason.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    link at https://www.statista.com/statistics/1376359/health-and-health-system-ranking-of-countries-worldwide/

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >health system ranking
    Very objective metric.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > The health index score is calculated by evaluating various indicators that assess the health of the population, and access to the services required to sustain good health, including health outcomes, health systems, sickness and risk factors, and mortality rates. The health and health system index score of the top ten countries with the best healthcare system in the world ranged between 82 and 86.9, measured on a scale of zero to 100.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Healthcare in Europe was taken over by vile people, that's why there is a massive exodus of trans people to Canada and USA

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Giving teens puberty blockers like candy is vile. YWNBAW.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >YWNBAW
        You are vile. Terf island is vile. Because of people like me leaving, the UK will be left in the dust while North America will continue to prosper more and more. Have fun being occupied by r*ssia, because no help will come

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          YWNBAW in a box
          YWNBAW with a fox
          YWNBAW in the you kay
          YWNBAW in your dee en ayy
          LMvileAO even

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would move to UK but sadly is the wrong people who push against mental ill freaks, aka another mental ill freaks, muslims.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >muslims
        Nobody tell him about Iran trannies

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      As a German femanon I am also extremely concerned about the pushback on trans issues even among the most liberal parties :/

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        YWNBAW
        Also, the legislation that's currently being pushed here goes in the opposite direction

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Also, the legislation that's currently being pushed here goes in the opposite direction
          No, local governments are cracking down on trans youth and also adult trans people, making it harder to change documents. My friend who transitioned, detransitioned (due to family bigot pressure) and retransitioned, was denylisted by the local government for document change because they were believing she was just making things up.
          >YWNBAW
          Frick off!

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is a shortage of doctors and other healthcare professionals especially in smaller towns and rural places. No one really wants to be a nurse because it's a shit job and even in the cities there is a shortage of nurses. This results in longer wait times, higher workload for existing staff, mistakes etc and more patient deaths

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because boomers are dying out. Their life savings are being poured into keeping their failing bodies alive for as long as possible in competition with each other.

    More demand makes price go up.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Germanon here, it's because we are getting flooded with immigrants. They get access to the same level of care as anyone else after a couple of months while only a small percantage of them works.
    This means the amount of ressources available per person get less and less. This means money as well as educated professionals, which increases wait times before you get to see a professional or sometimes even a general doctor.
    A friend of my girlfriend ended up going back to her pediatrician with a lung infection because no doctor in a city of over 150k people was taking in new patients.

    The same general proplem applies to childcare, schooling, etc.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you talking with your goverment representatives on the daily anon?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why would I do that, politicians don't even qualify as people

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you can rape her and undo it with a time machine
          i need to play that game

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >This means the amount of ressources available per person get less and less.
      It's mostly the aging profile of the population for you guys. The old take a vastly larger fraction of national healthcare resources than the young, enormously outstripping their proportion of the population. This happens everywhere (it's just a fact of life) and becomes a big problem when you having a rapidly aging population profile.
      Most immigrants are younger; another worldwide phenomenon, because the old are more likely to prefer to stay put. This means that immigrants tend to not contribute too much to the healthcare crisis (except in a few areas, such as postnatal services).

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good healthcare means people live longer since we've had good healthcare for a few decades now there's loads of old people and they take an insane amount of resources to care for

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    lmao even, worse than Iran, Albania and Belarus?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's wrong with Belarus?
      >Argentina at #60 before Belarus and Bulgaria
      Seems like decade old data to me

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What isn't? It's your typical eastern European shithole, but without EU gibs.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      these metrics are always bullshit but the amount of overdose deaths per year probably contributes massively to this. there's something crazy like 100k overdose deaths per year in the USA. its astronomical

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        IMO at this point, most are INTENTIONALLY bullshit, not just because it's difficult to jam everything into a "fairly" weighted score.

        Trash data sources from governments that want to look better... and maybe they even run a bunch of the ranking websites. Prestige like owning some aircraft carrier on a budget of a few thousand/year for a bunch of ranking websites.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >governments that want to look better
          do you think governments are run by teenage girls? Lmao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            YES, many do a lot for their "prestige" or a simulation thereof.

            The number 1 in the ranking isn't always who manipulated it BTW, sometimes it's someone ranked 5-20 that really should be 80+. But it is often manipulated.. Keep that in mind.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          from the get go they define things in a way to get the results they want. if you read about the metrics used to determine "costs of healthcare" they take lots of liberties to prioritize different diseases or groups, and ignore certain aspects.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly. And it's not just a flaw leading to some outlier even with the best scoring method they could come up with.

            Most random ranking sites are just flat-out absolute propaganda bullshit at this point, someone wanted to look better and the scoring isn't aimed at giving an honest picture like, say, Eurostat at least tries to.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          from the get go they define things in a way to get the results they want. if you read about the metrics used to determine "costs of healthcare" they take lots of liberties to prioritize different diseases or groups, and ignore certain aspects.

          >t. macacos coping about Asian Tigers winning

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Why are European healthcare systems falling behind
    Are they? Internet rankings like this can make up almost anything based on how they weigh the score and/or because they don't verify any government data.

    If the government of France claims people live on average 90y in peakeast of peak health and this is funded for 10Eur/person they'll mostly fricking take it and put it into the ranking.

    Guess what, there are a few nations that don't EXACTLY have the same standards.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Changing attitudes, it used to be normal to look after your elders but newer generations think working for free is a sin even if it's looking after people you supposedly care about so the state should pay for care. That social care cost is enourmous and is eating into the already ballooning health care budgets because the increasing amount of old people require more expensive and more frequent care. Europe doesn't really have the money to just pay significantly more for everything too because their economies are fairly stagnant. It's the consequences of trying to do the moral thing while other countries don't give a shit. The reason the Asian countries are doing so well is because that family orientated care still exists so the social care costs aren't destroying them.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Asians are simply superior and better adapted for the 21st century
    If they still exist in 300 years they'll all resemble grays while Europe will resemble Sudan (African-Arab mulattos) and America will all resemble the ugliest fattest most violent Brazilian mulatto you can imagine.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    chat is this true should I go to Turkmenistan for my triple bypass surgery?

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where is Shartmerica?

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Asians just work their doctors like dogs.
    https://archive.is/zyAdO

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Asians just work their doctors like dogs.
      funny because in my country they are angry as frick, threatening to leave after previous government promised them something like 50% wage increase. their base wage is high for public sector but not that high otherwise, but with overtime, their wage can more than quadruple. Out of 30 top public sector employees, 18 are doctors and that list includes directors of state enterprises. But we still have a shortage and they will strike now too. They will demand more concessionary freedom and the ability to work in private sector and public sector simultaneously.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >There are too many sick people but not enough medical staff to sustain them
    >Young people need to have sex and produce more people to suffer under bad healthcare

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