Why are high literature authors and high literature enthusiasts so incredible pretentious?
None of their books are any fun to read. I'd rather read fun warhammer books instead of being bored out of my mind reading some high literature author explain their (wrong) political philosophy.
Whats the point of fiction if its just a pretentious circlejerk full of bad opinions? I mean what would actually get people to pick up a book if what is inside of it will never actually be interesting to anyone?
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Calm down, manling.
Maybe stick to the Marvel movies, bud
movies suck and by extension comics also suck
books are far more entertaining
but there is no entertainment in pretentious circlejerk high literature
what type of person actually enjoys reading about greeks fricking eachother inside the anus or whatever else boring fictional thing the pretentious author tries to put a philosophical spin to
>Warhammergay thinks he is in a position to be shit talking comics
you're on the wrong board brainlet mouthbreather Wrong board
You are >>/tg/ homosexual.
There is. But is is for higher man. Fun shit will never make me feel the feels that actual literature can. Maybe you need more life experiences to actually click.
>is is
anon...
Forcing some deliniation between fun books and "real literature" is masturbatory nonsense. Like did you really just refer to yourself as "higher man" lmfao. New wave sci-fi has defined 21st century culture far better than any academic philosophy and it was born out of pulp lit because the "real" authors didn't have the imagination to write it. Morons like you who think writing has to be boring to be good are the reason why lit sucks so hard right now
You are likely an amerislop. Literature literally build nations in the late 19th century. Volkgeists have been measured by literature.
Sci-fi is even more trash than fantasy. It cannot tell you anything about the human condition.
>Volkgeists
You might want to learn how to spell that word properly.
>Literature literally build nations
*built
>Volkgeists have been measured by literature.
"You can measure a made up thing with an arbitary quality that I just selected". Ok and? How does this make books good?
>Sci-fi is even more trash than fantasy. It cannot tell you anything about the human condition.
Extremely cute post
Solaris is laughable as a book compared to any Dostoevsky. I will give you that the movie is high art, but at no point because of the story. KYS
>when I murder people with an axe I feel bad (900 pages)
dosto is a bore, read better russians
I also read V. Pelevin. , which you might call sci-fi, but he isn't genre trash.
>sci fi is when I don't like a book
oh you're this flavour of moron
>It cannot tell you anything about the human condition.
Who the frick cares? Why should that be a prerequisite?
>21st century
>culture
>he thinks this argument works in his favour
Yeah sci fi is always about how cool and awesome the future is going to be it’s not like Ballard wrote specifically about the same problems with contemporary society that you identified in your expert analysis are you dense can you at this point even comprehend something that isn’t a wojak meme
>Yeah sci fi is always about how cool and awesome the future is going to be it’s not like Ballard wrote specifically about the same problems with contemporary society that you identified in your expert analysis are you dense can you at this point even comprehend something that isn’t a wojak meme
LOL based
pretentious pseudcucks just shift+clicked this thread en mass 5 seconds after it was posted
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Simple answer is that we find your "fun warhammer books" boring, and are much more entertained by this so called "pretentious" literature. That's all it really comes down to.
>we
incredibly based pulp enjoyer
incredibly gay
wiener enjoyer
why did the crabs make you think of wieners
I read a bit of 40k, good trashy fun. How's fantasy warhammer? Where should one start?
Gotrek and Felix novels are your best bet.
I guess the most basic one would be the Gotrek & Felix books. So start would be trollslayer (basic short stories), then it continues with novels. Just read like the first 4 or so, later on the stories get worse and worse, and there is a different author. Otherwise I'd also suggest :
>Blackhearts series
>The Enemy Within (Richard Lee Byers, theres also an RPG campaign with the same name)
>Brunner the Bounty Hunter (short stories and novels)
Personally I'm a big fan of the Van Horstmann novel, which is about the origin of a chaos lord of Tzeentch. Some other books of note would be the Thanquol (skaven) books and the Malus (dark elves) books.
Oh also ignore anything written by the tretcherous round-headed alpinoid known as Gav Thorpe, anything and everything touched by him turns to shit.
Agreed but I’d rather attain a balance between quality and fun by reading actually good fantasy instead of mass produced warhammer goyslop. warhammer is a franchise that’s mostly composed of other authors ideas that the writers ripped off and copyrighted and therefore is completely devoid of soul.
>by reading actually good fantasy
like what
I prefer the fact that warhammer fantasy has a bunch of stories tied to the same universe. manlings here, dwarfs and rat things there, and dark elves way over somewhere else
How many times can you read the same tolkien trash before getting bored? Theres nothing more beyond le ring inside volcano. Where as with warhammer fantasy its a various tales of warriors here, there, and basically everywhere which is awesome
>warhammer is the only shared fantasy universe
>if it’s not warhammer it’s Tolkien
You’re moronic and even worse, genre illiterate
and what do you suggest? michael moorewiener?
Does michael moorwiener have a tabletop RPG? No.
also tolkien's tabletop RPG only consists or re-enacting the couple of battles from the books over and over again. Warhammer fantasy, for example, just has much much more story than tolkein in comparison
why would i prefer less story or moorwiener schizo ramblings and no tabletop rpg to tons of story + tabletop rpg?
>and what do you suggest
Anything that’s not warhammer goyslop
>Does michael moorwiener have a tabletop RPG?
One for hawkmoon and several for elric
>why would i prefer less story or moorwiener schizo ramblings and no tabletop rpg to tons of story + tabletop rpg?
Why does it even matter if a fantasy series has a tabletop rpg attached? Also you’re still operating under the assumption that all fantasy other than warhammer is tolkien or some other strawman
warhammer fantasy is kino though (i havent read 40k yet)
>Why does it even matter if a fantasy series has a tabletop rpg attached
the fact I can play it afterward duh. Why do people like tolkien tabletop rpg?
moorewiener elric bookcovers have an androgynous male on it therefore = bad
where is all of this other fantasy you talk about that spans more than 3 novels (warhammer fantasy has more than 150 novels spanning the shared universe) and has a tabletop so I can easily visualize what units and the map looks like?
>where is all of this other fantasy you talk about that spans more than 3 novels (warhammer fantasy has more than 150 novels spanning the shared universe) and has a tabletop so I can easily visualize what units and the map looks like?
Conan the Barbarian /thread
thats a comic/visual novel
sorry Im too lazy to read or beset my eyes on television and by extension comics to look at text bubbles
I'd rather have stories (warhammer fantasy) read to me via audio books. literally kinoino entertainment like watching tv but with literally less effort
Yikes so you don’t even read you just listen to video essays
no they are specifically audio books
summary videos offer no substance. I basically had this realization that going the extra mile with audio books WAS THE POINT, because you get this vision in your imagination and it is like having the story being projected in your mind
its freakin awesome. Im listening to this story about brunner the bounty hunter and he was just defending himself from this incoming horde of beastmen—some cat headed, dog headed, and goat headed. it was frick sweet, they carried stone axes and ran into battle making bestial noises braying and roaring. The chieftain was this tall psychotic hulking mass of muscle and anger snarling sharp tooth maw and massive goat horns, and basically brunner challenged him to a duel, played a dirty trick to run away, and made him his arch enemy
so much riveting MAN story that I CRAVE
Wow sounds like a Conan ripoff
actually more like beserk guy. he carries a heavy falchon on his hip, covered in belts laden with throwing knives, and a crossbow or multiple crossbows one large and a small crossbow pistol
i prefer warhammer fantasy over conan. but thats just my personal preference. I just dont find any appeal in it
Conan was literally created as short stories you moronic fricking ESL
conan revolves around one plot point (conan)
warhammer fantasy has multiple points of story inside one universe, you know like real life?
thats why I cant get into tolkien or whatever
>conan revolves around one plot point (conan)
It revolves around one character, just like gotrek and felix revolves around two characters. and gotrek and felix was literally inspired by sword and sorcery characters like conan you subhuman fricking swine
you are literally fricking moronic. an ESL who can't read but chooses to listen to audiobooks instead
but im not reading gotrek and felix right now. Im reading brunner the bounty hunter
and brunner the bounty hunter revolves around ONE CHARACTER
BRUNNER
WHO GOES ON ADVENTURES
JUST LIKE CONAN
you're not getting that I just like warhammer fantasy and I wont just hop to another fantasy universe because its similar in whatever way
does conan even have a tabletop rpg?
From the way you type it's clear you either underage or extremely ESL
You literally stated that despite being written as short stories that Conan is a comic and apparently only needing to read something if it had an RPG, ignoring that all the fantasy works recommended to you have Rpgs and that warhammer fantsy itself didn't even start as a role playing game
I've read plenty of warhammer novels. They're good reading but far inferior to the works they actually stole from. You're reading the off brand ripoffs and refusing to try the originals which inspired them
Why are you so moronic?
>Why are you so moronic?
Who is more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him? They're doing a good job of triggering the shit out of you.
I just prefer warhammer fantasy because what would i do with irrelevant offcanon fantasy?
>does conan even have a tabletop rpg?
Yes, multiple, it also has wargames. I presume you are too dumb to play them though.
Nonsense. The best Conan stories usually start from the perspective of other characters with their own motivations then introduce Conan into the plot. "A Witch Shall be Born" for example. Then you have characters like Thoth-Amon and Valeria who have gone on a ton of adventures themselves.
Athiests are already out of time
what does that have to do with my post
Horus Heresy is comfy and fun books.
Maybe it's the best series of sci-fi right now still being published, considering there are more than 50 books of it.
bigger setting (galaxy spanning) = more books
so much it paralyzed me on what i should start with so I went with fantasy instead
very comfy book series, Dan Abnett is easily my favorite black library author
>IQfy pseuds triggered by people actually enjoying books
cute
And yet the warhammergay is triggered by people who enjoy comics and other pulp fantasy. It seems warhammerhomosexuals are just as pretentious as the lit posters they deride
that's bait silly
>Why are high literature authors and high literature enthusiasts so incredible pretentious?
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>None of their books are any fun to read. I'd rather read fun warhammer books instead of being bored out of my mind reading some high literature author explain their (wrong) political philosophy.
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>Whats the point of fiction if its just a pretentious circlejerk full of bad opinions? I mean what would actually get people to pick up a book if what is inside of it will never actually be interesting to anyone?
Good morning Timmy! I was under the impression summer vacation was over.
reddit spacing btw
This stuff is for kids and the masses. The high literature is for the aristocracy.
does lord of the rings have... GOTH ELVES like warhammer does?
>Elric ripoff
You're acting like warhammer is the MOST EPIC UNIQUE CREATIVE DEEP LORE DARKEST SETTING EVAR!! when everything it has is just ripped off from other series and then branded with the GW logo. Warhammer is goyslop.
To be fair, the whole joke of warhammer was that the guys from gw back then said "hey, let's get as much shit as possible together and see what happens" and then you get Mayan frogs fighting undead pharaohs, Germans from the holy roman empires, orcish Nazi football hooligans, gothic elves, seafaring vampires, rat people and whatnot. Shit is hilarious.
Just read what you enjoy. Most of the time you'll still come away better than if you hadn't read the book. You'll learn new words, be exposed to new ideas and situations that will help critical thinking and etc. While it is good to try new genres and classics as long as you are reading you're doing your brain a favor.
The intermediate stage between Goyslop and good literature is kino.
Read what you want bub, no one is stopping you. If that's what you want to read, go for it.
But why do genre-fantasy bubs always say that "high literature enthusiasts" are pretentious? Is it really that shocking an idea that there are people out there who might just genuinely not find reading "Beast Slayer" all that worthwhile?
>I'd rather read fun warhammer books instead of being bored out of my mind
Then what the hell are you doing in IQfy?
OP read Blood Meridian, it makes a lot of the black library books look tame
dont care albiet
Warhammer fantasy is my fantasy of choice and I want to be immersed in it.
I dont want to introduce stuff that isnt warhammer fantasy into my mind
I guess this is that autistic passion some people have towards lotr, except I think whfb is better
just like some people choose berserk, or whatever else, I just find more fun leisurely utility in warhammer fantasy than conan, moorewiener, tolkien, or whoever else because I can play a warhammer fantasy war strategy game with these stories appearing in mind as imaginary visions
What about Age of Sigmar?
*spit* filth
end times isnt canon
I'm not the biggest expert but it seems like the rules are improved and the lore makes more sense.