why are most atheists I've met 10x more tolerant of most religions than most religious people i've met for anything that isn't their own.
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why are most atheists I've met 10x more tolerant of most religions than most religious people i've met for anything that isn't their ow...
I care for the truth more than for tolerating ideas
I think it's silly to act so objective about one's beliefs.
I may be wrong in my beliefs, but the objective moral beliefs exist. I recommend the book The Last Superstition by Edward Feser. The part on Natural Law.
I think that's best decided through logical debate though, and not moral prescription. A generally agreed-upon view of morals would be possible for any situation but I don't think it's a single rulebook
>but the objective moral beliefs exist
Because if they did not, you would be upset?
What truth? You're just believing a book and screaming like a madman.
atheists don't have a standard of truth so anything goes for them, that is until they get a hate boner for you and killing millions of faithful because you don't believe in such nonsense like "the universe came from nothing for no reason whatsoever"
Do you watch porn?
no? And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It’s better to enter eternal life with only one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell. - Matthew 18:9
>no?
Why are you asking me? Just tell me whether you watch porn in clear terms. If you care about truth, that is.
Are you blind bro? It's a two letter word that you quoted yourself. I just answered but I am curious why the frick would you bring it up, hence the question mark
I want to know if you're a trustworthy person. Have you watched any porn at all within the past year?
Yes I have watched porn this year but I gave it up.
So you've watched porn less than three months ago? How long ago, actually? Sounds like you're just some addict who is going to relapse soon again. I thought you meant that you hadn't watched porn in years or something like that, this is disappointing.
It was my new years resolution to drop the evils I committed, repent and get hopefully (through His mercy not my actions) forgiven. I deleted my bookmarks but have literally thousands of files to sort through in my old IQfy folder and I don't want to spend time looking at that thing again so I am putting it off. If there was any software that can detect webms and images with porn content and automatically delete that stuff I'd have been technically free for longer
Stop talking about porn all day and go to church you degenerate homosexual.
picrel is serious "Oh yeah, you like sugar? Well, Misc Pot liked sugar too!
Do you watch porn?
Stop talking about porn all day and go to church you degenerate homosexual.
Sounds like you watch porn. Why are you calling me a degenerate when you watch porn?
Stop talking about porn all day and go to church you degenerate homosexual.
I only talk about porn, I don't actually watch it. You do watch it, though, so why are you calling me a degenerate?
Stop talking about porn all day and go to church you degenerate homosexual.
Stop watching porn then, you degenerate homosexual.
I’m convinced that moron is a porn addict and copes by telling himself that everyone else is the same so he constantly interrogates and accuses religious people on here
Nope, I'm just an atheist who doesn't watch porn and I find it really fun to use this when talking to christians who do, especially if they call me a degenerate and shit like that.
>no? And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It’s better to enter eternal life with only one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell. - Matthew 18:9
>Yes I have watched porn this year but I gave it up.
lemme guess, you didn't cut out your eye, did ya
You responded with a question mark so that's a little suspect homeslice. We're just making sure.
Tolerance is the lack of virtue.
God is the supreme being to whom a person owes their devotion and loyality, purely and totally. Atheists being wretched men who know no god obviously have no concern for such things, the matter being of no more significance to them than any arrangement of tea leaves. Also, since God decides how He will be worshipped, most men, rightly or wrongly, can become rather guarded or hostile when presented with different beliefs, out of fear of offending their God. The atheist feels nothing in turn when engaging the beliefs of others since he already takes them to be false.
I wish I had a stronger connection with God. It feels so weak and I have barely anything to make me feel anything nowadays.
God doesn't want us to worship him
Source: theosophy
"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment.
I can tolerate what a lesser man cant
When you believe in nothing, you stand for nothing. What don’t you understand?
>When you believe in nothing, you stand for nothing. What don’t you understand?
"Zero is indivisible, so that zero belief cannot be rigorously differentiated from belief in zero. It is in this sense that atheism is a religion. Not that atheism is committed to a specific conviction, quite the opposite; it is precisely the specificity of conviction that it attacks. Understood negatively it denies the false absolute of theos, but understood positively it affirms the true absolute marked by the ‘privative’ a-; the nihil from which creation proceeds, the undifferentiable cosmic zero.
Everything has obviously gone wrong for us in order for Plato to begin with One rather than Zero. To take One as originary is to presuppose everything; such as unity, individuation, achieved form, and dogmatic plenitude. The One is the phallomorphic base of Occidental culture, in the sense that Irigaray understands it. It is the mono—of monotheism, and monotheism is condensed irreligion; the definitive patriarchal effacing of intra-uterine indifferentiation (and thus of the primary ripple from out of chaotic zero). The differentiated one is the Father, and his adorers understand nothing of religion. Even in writing the nothing, as Aquinas does, they eclipse it with absolute ego (Him). Nor is it the case that primary immanence is merely crushed with arbitrariness beneath a partially inadequate metaphorics, since—far from being neutral between the sexes—it is precisely because indifferentiation (= 0) is sexually unsegmented that it is even more feminine than the mother. The femininity of zero is uncompromised by its indifference, due to the unilateral character of individualizing deviation. Whilst zero is certainly alien to the Father, there is no differentiation from zero. Indeed, zero is so utterly vulvo-uterine that patriarchy is synonymous with irreligion (faith)."
>The One is the phallomorphic base of Occidental culture
Complete nonsense. Infinity is the base of Occidental culture.
>Infinity is the base of Occidental culture.
The broad Nature of infinity, where Western, Judeo-Christian-Islamic, are segmented focused is specific modes of the infinity (represented in varying measures of Phi, noted in each religion, rhey openly state it).
All Judeo++ is rooted in Egyptian, and even older than that, it never truly "cut and began anew" just like life itself.
Shizo babbling. Tell me where the notion of infinity is discussed in Arabic Algebra!
Come back with a PhD in Pure Mathematics to bow and beg to be my student.
you're a fricking moron shitposter
Youre an envious and arrogant terminte on a sphere that is the size of a grain of sand to me, Ive done measures far exceeding the solar system.
You didnt even read it, because you think "Math Word" was sufficient?
comic book homosexual
2/2
"Between barter systems and money systems there is a difference strictly analogous to that between Roman arithmetics and the place-value system from India, transmitted by the Arabs to the West. Like zero, money is a redundant operator; adding nothing in order to make things hum. When Marx associates capital with death he is only drawing the final consequence from this correspondence. Surplus value comes out of labour-power, but surplus production comes out of nothing. This is why capital production is the consummating phase of nihilism, the liquidation of theological irreligion, the twilight of the idols. Modernity is virtual thanocracy guided insidiously by zero; the epoch of the death of God. There is no God but (only) zero—indifferentiation without unity—and *nihil* is true religion.
Schopenhauer remarks of the cosmic vulva (=0):
We must not even evade it, as the Indians do, by myths and meaningless words, such as reabsorption in Brahman, or the Nirvana of the Buddhists. On the contrary, we freely acknowledge that what remains after the complete abolition of the will is, for all who are still full of the will, assuredly nothing. But also conversely, to those in whom the will has turned and denied itself, this very real world with all its suns and galaxies, is—nothing [Sch II 508]. "
Pretending Christians have ever been an unwavering standard of ideals and haven't constantly changed to appeal to the society it serves for the last 2000 years is asanine. It literally only took a decade for trannies to be a political talking point for the Pope to validate their existence.
I believe in plenty, I just don’t believe in ancient mythology. Sorry, you’re going to have to learn to deal with it.
>tolerance is le good
Consider somebody you love amputating his healthy leg and start beating his face to make him stop. This is an act of love and of intolerance. Tolerating everything just means that you have no standards.
obviously it's on a case-by-case basis. I think there's no reason to be intolerant to other religions outside of aspects that are rationally problematic to the significant majority of people outside that religion.
>rationally problematic
And there is the problem. The human ratio is not an objective instrument and empiricism does not give us any moral direction.
>No, you don't understand, I HAVE to proselytize to you and advocate for draconian laws that infringe your rights! Otherwise, how else could I save you from your poor, stupid self?
You will never accept it, but this is the real reason people hate you.
It's not because they're controlled by demons and hiss at the sight of one of jesus' most loyal devotees.
It's not because they are the foul darkness- low, degenerate beasts which scurry from the piercing light of the lord.
It's because you're a humungous wienersucker.
I'm not sucking any dick. If anyone you are the wienersucking apologizer when you are critizising others to "advocate for draconian laws that infringe your rights!".
And how do people hate me? How is that hate expressed? By cursing a man who while maybe disagreeing with them cares more about them then the next guy who has no standards.
>when you are critizising others to "advocate for draconian laws that infringe your rights!".
try this sentence again but in english, Pablo.
>And how do people hate me? How is that hate expressed?
https://news.gallup.com/poll/511820/views-supreme-court-remain-near-record-lows.aspx
People are literally trying to dismantle the SCOTUS because they allowed states to regulate abortion. People really do not want to have anything to do with you, nor have you in control of the levers of power. This, I can personally promise you, is not born of the american public suddenly deciding to care about our constitution and supreme court jurisprudence which prohibits the intermingling of church and state after centuries of wiping our collective asses with these things. It's specifically just because they don't like bible thumpers.
>>I'm not sucking any dick. If anyone you are the wienersucking-apologizer when you are critizising that others "advocate for draconian laws that infringe your rights!".
Now you can hopfully adress the point Senior.
>People are literally trying to dismantle the SCOTUS because they allowed states to regulate abortion.
This sounds pretty short sighted to abolish an institution which has been instrumental to your constitution for centuries just because it had limited it own power by declaring that it cannot rule on a certain issue. In my opinion an institution is elevated when it limits its own power, but then I am Christian and believe that virtue lies within a moderation of power.
Also I'm not the US supreme court... Identifying with politics to a level which your post suggests that you are doing is kinda silly tbh.
>If anyone you are the wienersucking-apologizer when you are critizising that others "advocate for draconian laws that infringe your rights!".
>Now you can hopfully adress the point Senior.
It's still ESL babble. Are you just trying to say that I'm an apologist for supporting the separation of church and state? On whose behalf am I engaging in apologia for? The law? I mean, I guess that's fair? But my issue is that there's no symmetry in your insult. It doesn't make sense. I called you a wienersucker because you're a control freak who wants to frick with other people for the sake of your own personal insecurities. Now I'm a wienersucker because... I think we should follow the law?
>This sounds pretty short sighted to abolish an institution
I'm not saying it isn't. I'm the SCOTUS' biggest simp on this site. But you asked who hates christianity and christians, and how such hatred manifests.
Well here it is.
SCOTUS gave christians the ability to pass draconian abortion laws. Now people literally want to destroy the SCOTUS.
Take a look at the statistics in that article I posted. That's 60% of americans who don't like you, and the way they manifest that is in their political beliefs.
>I called you a wienersucker because you're a control freak who wants to frick with other people for the sake of your own personal insecurities
I'm very glad that we share the same sentiment on the homosexual community!
>pass draconian abortion laws
Like banning abortions? I don't see any unnessecary cruelty in these laws. Abortion is clearly a conflict of interest and these issues are usually mediated by the state.
I hovered over the article. If it was about Christians being hated I'd have read it, but it seems to be about a declining trust in the Supreme Court. Maybe there are also other reasons for a lack in trust into the Supreme Court. But fundamentally this article does not answer why Christians are not being hated.
>does not answer why Christians are being hated
>I'm very glad that we share the same sentiment on the homosexual community!
yes, people are starting to hate gays and trannies as much as you guys, because you both act exactly the same. The difference is you guys worship a israelite wizard, and gays worship their own penises (and raping children)
>Like banning abortions?
Specifically making the termination of an embryo homicide in some cases, and other felonies in other jurisdictions.
>Abortion is clearly a conflict of interest and these issues are usually mediated by the state.
That's not how substantive due process works, moron. The relevant analysis is the class of protected (or nonprotected action) that abortion falls under, and the impact on the exercise of such action that would be occasioned by abortion laws. The more important the right is under ordered liberty analysis, and the bigger the hypothetical imposition by the state, the more likely it is that the state will not have jurisdiction over the issue.
>Maybe there are also other reasons for a lack in trust into the Supreme Court.
You're right. I'm sure the 60% disapproval rating is from people concerned about them overturning the Chevron agency deference standard.
>Oh no! Will the USDA be able to interpret vague provisions in its organic statute???!!!?!
sounds like a real hot-button issue with your average voter.
Maybe the whole lockdown shenanigans has made people distrusting the government in general? Idk abt the US but in Europe it certainly is the case.
Anyways: I never brought up the supreme court issue, I'm not well versed in it. You used it as a proof why Christians are hated and it does not hold up.
"Christians are being hated" is not equal to "people don't trust the Supreme Court".
>Anyways: I never brought up the supreme court issue, I'm not well versed in it.
maybe you should stop talking if you don't have anything worth saying
>"Christians are being hated" is not equal to "people don't trust the Supreme Court".
except if you had more than 2 braincells to rub together, you would know that the american public generally sees the Dobbs decision as being motivated by theocratic tendencies of the justices (once again, for your sake, I will clarify that this is not my own opinion, I am just telling you what americans think because clearly you are in no position to know seeing as you live in Belize).
As a result, the SCOTUS is now widely believed to be illegitimate. Because the Dobbs decision looks to the uninformed like bible thumping.
I know to you no evidence will count until I pull up a statistic that says 100% of all americans answered a survey saying "death to christianity," but when I see a violent reaction to perceived bible thumpers controlling the levers of power, I take that to mean people don't like bible thumpers.
>american public
So that's like 5% of the word population and 25% of the world economy and they are divided on a Court ruling, thus "Christians are hated" is true.
>wtf you can't just use examples when making your point. What about all the people not contemplated by your example? You have to find an example that implicates 100% of the global population and is also not circumstantial in any way or I won't accept it!
k, dude
Thing is: you just picked a current thing to make a generalizing argument. You can't even say that Christians have been hated before the Court ruling. And the study you are citing does not even state that Christians are being hated. You are making shit up.
>3 in every 5 americans thinks the supreme court is illegitimate because of the Dobbs decision, which they see as an expression of christian theocracy
>"That doesn't prove that americans don't like christian theocracy! And even if it does, it doesn't matter anyway because, uh, americans don't represent a large proportion of the global population!"
>"Bring me the statistic that says 100% of all people on earth unequivocally hate christian theocracy. What's that? Can't do it? Haha, guess everyone loves christian theocracy now!"
k, dude
>https://news.gallup.com/poll/511820/views-supreme-court-remain-near-record-lows.aspx
>ctrl-f "thecocracy"
>no results
How do you know that
>>3 in every 5 americans thinks the supreme court is illegitimate because of the Dobbs decision, which they see as an expression of christian theocracy
You'd have to back that up first.
Real (white) countries have popular laws that prohibit christian theocracy
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/10/28/in-u-s-far-more-support-than-oppose-separation-of-church-and-state/
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/05/28/in-western-europe-most-people-back-church-state-separation-even-while-many-willingly-pay-church-tax/
according to
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/has-dobbs-decision-made-public-more-divided-abortion#:~:text=The%20majority%20of%20Americans%20continue,decision%20as%20political%20(67%25).
39% of americans agree with Dobbs
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/11/30/growing-share-of-americans-see-the-supreme-court-as-friendly-toward-religion/
Once again, I'm so sorry that I don't have the statistic that says that every human on earth, including uncontacted sentinelese tribesmen, oppose the formation of a christian theocracy, so these bits of circumstantial evidence will have to suffice.
Thing is: you have absolutely nothing to back your claim. And your articles are ridiculous as well. You are clearly showing shit at the wall hoping something sticks.
Also you are implying that:
>Hating Christian Theocracy = Hating Christians
You are seething about a Court ruling and confused. You shouldn't post in here.
Christian Theocracy = Hating Christians
no, just the ultrazealous ones who want to impose their gay israelite cult on others
>You are seething about a Court ruling
I support the Dobbs ruling as being a far more correct reading of the constitution than Roe and Casey, which are utterly dogshit opinions. I'm simply bringing it up to prove a point. Something you can't seem to grasp.
In Europe the most zealous Christians are not members of the state Churches and don't pay church taxes and don't advocate for theocray.
Idgaf about Bob v. Vagene or whatever. Stop bringing that shit up.
>X is an important piece of evidence for my argument
>"Why are you mad about X tho???"
>I'm not, it's just evidence for my point.
>"Oh my G-d! Stop talking about X already!"
I rescind my original point
people don't hate bible thumpers because they're overly paternalistic control freaks
it's because you guys are incredibly low IQ and difficult to talk to
ok shitposter
Why are you so invested in defending womens' "right" to kill children?
He is not, he has claimed in previous posts that he has no dog in this race while also claiming that the court ruling is related to Christian theocracy somehow. Forget any discussion with him. Either he's a better bot than the other one itt, a shitposter or a shizo. Either way this is wasted time.
I find it hard to believe 3/5ths of Americans give a shit about the Supreme Court at all, most are too busy dealing with the consequences of hyperinflation and increasing social isolation to care about abortion beyond the most basic virtue signaling when some ruling happens.
Americans still kind of care about their freedom and autonomy. So the prospect, whether real or imagined, of losing it to what they perceive to be a bunch of theocrats (hence the phrase "christian taliban" getting thrown a lot around by libshits) is pretty scary to them. If you remember, there was also popular outcry against the covid mandates for largely he same reasons, it's just that the stripping of autonomy came from the egghead "I fricking love science!" crew instead.
>why Christians are not being hated.
they aren't by the vast majority of people
most people identify as christians
those that don't like christians are because they either remember or know of the time they were the authoritarian moral busybodies pushing their shit into everybody else and going after those who disagree, being the wokies of their time
>draconian abortion laws
none of those laws are draconian
only derange progressives push that lie
abortion is not a human right and can be easily view as murder even without any religious context
if states are passing anti abortion laws it's because the people of said state want such laws, if you don't like those just move
t. atheist
I treat religious people the same way I treat insane homeless people.
>Cool
>Oh yeah
>Right on
>Yeah, I don’t like the lizard shapeshifter empire either
>why
Inexperience with foreign cultures.
Never forget.
That's some shitty music taste you got there, bud.
This arrogance in Man is the very reason youre not colonizing the moons of Jupiter at the very solar year...
...its not ability holding back Human-ity, its Humans itself. A tragedy...
A homosexual chat bot. Very impressive.
>colonizing the moons of Jupiter
There's no way to colonize the moon's of Jupiter, moronic capeshit homosexual. Your soi wars and such aren't real.
>There's no way to colonize the moon's of Jupiter
I dont ask scientifically illiterate peasants how the markets is Siam are doing, you sir need a reality check.
Know your station in life.
Bro your brain fried, you can't even form grammatically and syntactically correct sentences anymore.
>brain
you are talking to a chat bot my dude
Post bread.
>grammatically and syntactically correct
Its translated from Mathematics to English to Mathematics, I am well aware of what my brain is doing AND your's, your barking at a threat far greater than yourself because you have no other card to play except bluff or flee, but your hate is attracting you to me.
That Math thread was Wow, neat shit.
I really can4yxvyt keep up with your intelect. You win.
You used to be at least somewhat coherent. What happened?
>coherent
Youre assuming youre a peer, this isnt a review, youre not being asked, I am informing you and the world.
What is your accreditation? Where, in what?
I am not assuming I'm a peer, I'm just saying that you used to be more coherent. I've seen you post in the past, and maybe like a year ago your posts seemed way different. What happened?
>I am not assuming I'm a peer
You did bu the very nature of questioning the posts coherency, sir, do you know where you are?
Do I need to call an ambulance?
Maybe I'm wrong and you're not less coherent, but your posts are definitely different than maybe a year ago. So what happened?
>So what happened?
Ive done constant scientific research for the last several years non-stop, often 20+ hour days, around the world doing field research.
No u didnt know me, no one does, not even my "friends and family".
>arrogance
*COUGH*
>muh history
Students, all of ye.
>everyone who disagrees with me goes to the fire dimension forever when they die
it comes with the territory. it's not even really their fault.
Humans center their perspective of Time on humans, Christ, Mohammed, Buddha.
I do not.
Shadow Calculate.
Because youre drawing away from to potential of all, Inverted Creation. Fricking badass.
>from the* potential
Im stoned and on vacation.
>le wholesome weedcation
it's a Redditor bot...
>wholesome
Yeah, I earned it.
dude you're a bot, you didnt do shit
Ive volunteered all over the world. Here I bought a whole snack carts of treats for a school across the street, some 70-80 or so. Was fun.
Youre used to liars and have become one of them. The people that only know lies.
you can't even lie, for you are a bot
Telling the Truth led me to knowing everything.
How has lying been treating you?
It totally depends on the demographics. Lapsed Catholic Atheists are going to be more tolerant than Protestant Atheists for example.
It's been my experience that no one is truly tolerant, everyone has at least a couple views/beliefs/takes which will irrationally piss them off when expressed. This is part of why I have few friends, as a Nazbol the left hates me despite agreeing with me on most things and the right hates me because I call out their apathy and bootlicking weakness.
>Nazbol
what's it like being 15
Atheists know their beliefs are bullshit so they are fine with other bullshit